| 00:02.18 | benoitc | thanks Curalton I'm on |
| 00:06.12 | Curalton | btw does the fw drive have an external powersupply? |
| 00:07.14 | benoitc | yes |
| 00:08.00 | Curalton | ah, i though fw could support enough power to HDs, ah well... |
| 00:10.35 | benoitc | mmm I don't understand too |
| 00:10.51 | benoitc | I'm trying now with activation of dma |
| 00:11.04 | Curalton | see "hdparm /dev/..." to see the current settings |
| 00:13.29 | benoitc | Curalton, http://pastebin.com/420026 |
| 00:14.49 | Curalton | ah, that is all it supports :/ |
| 00:15.45 | Curalton | time some writes, time cp 10mbfile /mnt/firewirehd |
| 00:17.26 | benoitc | mmm I have to find a 10mb file ;) |
| 00:17.42 | Curalton | make one |
| 00:18.06 | Curalton | dd if=/dev/zero of=file bs=1024 count=1024 (iirc, maybe vary the count) |
| 00:23.03 | benoitc | http://pastebin.com/420036 |
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| 00:23.34 | benoitc | http://pastebin.com/420037 |
| 00:25.11 | Curalton | so 10 mb takes ~1 second? doesnt seem bad, do it more than once to get a good mean |
| 00:26.42 | benoitc | hum sure but the mini is noisy now and there is no use of the harware |
| 00:26.55 | benoitc | when I shutrdown the disk everything is ok |
| 00:29.26 | benoitc | come back just a mn |
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| 00:56.26 | [11aa] | hello, a question where are the jigdo files for woody or oldstable? |
| 01:00.39 | [11aa] | it is a test really, i did partitioning, activated swap , activated / on hda1 and my screen is blue it doesnt come back to the installer menu |
| 01:01.19 | [11aa] | actaully / is on hda2 hda1 is for a map that i cant erase |
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| 01:14.36 | [11aa] | hello, a question where are the jigdo files for woody? i have sarge but its for a 5400/200 |
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| 04:20.03 | pahartik | Curalton: "scsi-spin" of "scsitools" package can spin IEEE-1394 harddisks up and down |
| 04:21.31 | pahartik | Curalton: unfortunately "scsi-idle" patch does not seem to be available for Linux 2.6 |
| 04:21.59 | Curalton | too bad he is gone already :) |
| 04:22.17 | fo0bar | heh, compiling the linux kernel on the 8-proc power5 machine at the sourceforge compile farm is rather zippy |
| 04:22.41 | demon | ... well yeah, I'd imagine so :) |
| 04:23.10 | fo0bar | now, to find a guinea pig with a G5... |
| 05:23.23 | SimonRaven | 8 proc power5? holy |
| 05:23.42 | jaska | damn |
| 05:33.43 | fo0bar | SimonRaven: *shrug* the box is available to the public. you just need a sourceforge account |
| 05:34.51 | SimonRaven | do they happen to have a 32 bit environment on it? |
| 05:35.04 | fo0bar | yes actually |
| 05:35.12 | fo0bar | suse somethingorother |
| 05:35.20 | SimonRaven | bleh, suse |
| 05:35.50 | SimonRaven | well, i can probably set up a sarge 32bit chroot or something ;) |
| 05:36.00 | fo0bar | I was just about to suggest that, heh |
| 05:37.15 | fo0bar | it sucks that they're running 32bit userland on a 64bit kernel... you can chroot from 64bit to 32bit, but not vice versa |
| 05:49.57 | fo0bar | speaking of which, are there any plans for a full powerpc64 port? (not that I care yet, as I don't have a g5/power5) |
| 05:50.32 | SimonRaven | yes, there's one at alioth |
| 05:51.25 | fo0bar | cool |
| 05:52.02 | SimonRaven | there's a 64bit libc6, etc. |
| 05:58.04 | fo0bar | http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-ppc64-devel/2005-November/thread.html <-- I sense a bit of in-fighting ;) |
| 06:08.07 | Curalton | fo0bar: on anything but x86 32bit userland i usually better unless you need the extra memory |
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| 07:40.53 | Coutal | say, can quik locate a kernel without an ext2 partition somehow? |
| 07:41.08 | Coutal | i just want it to locate the kernel, without mounting a root partition even |
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| 08:06.12 | pahartik | what is required to build/run ProjectX (written in Java) on Debian? http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115063&package_id=124556 |
| 08:08.14 | Coutal | yes! i did it!!! |
| 08:08.25 | Coutal | finally, clear display when booting from bootx! |
| 08:08.38 | Coutal | happy happy joy joy, happy happy joy joy |
| 08:09.29 | pahartik | Coutal: you fixed ATI Rage driver? |
| 08:09.58 | Coutal | pahartik: i'm 75% there. when i have overridden dsp_config and dsp_on_off with known good values, the disruption stopped |
| 08:10.20 | Coutal | technically you can fix it for yourself and break all other cards, but now i want to make it into a real patch. |
| 08:11.18 | Coutal | so if you want to compile your own kernel and don't mind that it will not work on any other machine, you can do it right now :) |
| 08:12.08 | pahartik | Coutal: good progress |
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| 09:28.08 | svenl | benoitc: you around ? |
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| 09:58.58 | benoitc | svenl, yes |
| 09:59.51 | svenl | benoitc: did you file an installation report like i asked you yesterday, about the etch/beta1/yaboot-installer issue ? |
| 10:00.17 | benoitc | not yet |
| 10:00.39 | benoitc | have a lot of pb for now sorry |
| 10:03.48 | benoitc | svenl, where I have to fill it anyway ? |
| 10:04.32 | benoitc | and are you aware about pb with firewire pb ? my hd is always on with sbp2 module |
| 10:04.58 | svenl | benoitc: fixed in 2.6.14 |
| 10:05.28 | svenl | benoitc: http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/report-template |
| 10:05.37 | svenl | please take the time to file it out as best you can, ok ? |
| 10:06.53 | benoitc | svenl, I do it when I'll be back in one hour |
| 10:10.37 | svenl | cool. |
| 11:02.27 | benoitc | svenl, any id was the fan could be always on on linux ? this isn't the case on macosx |
| 11:04.52 | svenl | because you haven't installed pbbuttonsd or somethging ? |
| 11:14.18 | benoitc | hmmm dunno if pmud works on mini mac |
| 11:20.48 | benoitc | i have a warning on package that it works only on powerbook |
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| 12:06.55 | benoitc | svenl, I send the bug report |
| 12:06.59 | benoitc | sent |
| 12:07.31 | DelTree | I think the problem with powerbook5,9 is already know, isn't it ? |
| 12:07.39 | DelTree | s/know/known |
| 12:08.01 | svenl | benoitc: thanks. |
| 12:08.36 | benoitc | btw what does the vide=ofonly in fact ? |
| 12:09.11 | DelTree | I think that it make linux do video by openfirmware calls... |
| 12:10.55 | benoitc | oh yes of = openfirmware :$ |
| 12:31.39 | benoitc | mmm how to create automatically an initrd image ? |
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| 13:08.39 | benoitc | with make-kpkg ? |
| 13:09.51 | benoitc | DelTree, seem there is already a patch for powerbook5,9 : http://ozlabs.org/pipermail/linuxppc-dev/2005-October/020222.html you just have to add Powerbook5,9 |
| 13:10.07 | benoitc | and gen too is makin ga livecd thatr will be out soon |
| 13:10.24 | DelTree | ?? |
| 13:11.38 | DelTree | but I can't build a kernel... far less a boot cd... |
| 13:12.05 | benoitc | DelTree, maybe you could do your own livecd ? |
| 13:12.49 | DelTree | no... I just couldn't... |
| 13:12.56 | DelTree | I would I build ? |
| 13:13.01 | DelTree | how |
| 13:13.21 | DelTree | how would I make a cd image ? |
| 13:13.41 | demon | er... construct the filesystem chroot, use mkisofs to make the CD image |
| 13:13.53 | demon | read the docs to learn how to make it bootable |
| 13:14.04 | demon | it's not that hard |
| 13:14.14 | DelTree | from MaxOSX ? |
| 13:14.19 | DelTree | Mac* |
| 13:14.29 | demon | well, that'd be a bit more challenging |
| 13:14.42 | demon | you couldn't run any of the binaries |
| 13:15.20 | benoitc | DelTree, this is the only ppc machine you have ? |
| 13:16.23 | DelTree | yes... |
| 13:17.49 | benoitc | DelTree, seem experimental livecd from gentoo will be available soon |
| 13:21.07 | benoitc | dunno how to build a debian boot img is there any doc smwh ? |
| 13:22.15 | DelTree | if I have yaboot and a kernel/initrd pair, I might be able to do something... |
| 13:22.36 | DelTree | could I play with the initrd on an x86 ? |
| 13:22.52 | DelTree | I guess ext2 allows that, doesn't it ? |
| 13:23.05 | DelTree | (cramfs is not endian-stable) |
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| 13:24.03 | benoitc | dunno |
| 13:25.05 | DelTree | can you mount an ext2 created on x86 on ppc and vice-versa or not ? |
| 13:25.33 | benoitc | this is just a file so why not ? |
| 13:25.53 | DelTree | endian ? |
| 13:26.06 | DelTree | just a random idea... :) |
| 13:30.56 | DelTree | mmmh... maybe just the new kernel with debian's initrd... if I'm lucky that could work... |
| 13:31.17 | DelTree | the only trouble is... I'm not in my lucky times... |
| 13:35.11 | DelTree | is it planned to be in debian someday ? |
| 13:38.15 | DelTree | damn... cannot paste from MacOS to X... |
| 13:39.21 | benoitc | mmmm forgot to update yaboot :\ how to start on had disk from openfirmware |
| 13:39.24 | benoitc | ? |
| 13:39.43 | DelTree | ?? |
| 13:40.00 | DelTree | something like ide0,:..... |
| 13:40.09 | DelTree | but it's quite a bit tricky... |
| 13:40.23 | DelTree | don't have MacOSX at hand ? |
| 13:40.51 | DelTree | ... |
| 13:40.54 | benoitc | no ;) |
| 13:40.55 | DelTree | maybe hd |
| 13:41.06 | DelTree | partition number ? |
| 13:41.11 | benoitc | ok lucky I am, i hav e the old boot :) |
| 13:41.17 | benoitc | 2 |
| 13:41.18 | DelTree | :)) |
| 13:41.28 | DelTree | hd,2:/blabla... |
| 13:41.34 | DelTree | iirc... |
| 13:41.47 | benoitc | ok interresting to know if it happens someday |
| 13:42.05 | DelTree | well... don't trust my word... it's a bit old... |
| 13:42.26 | DelTree | should be roughly the scheme, but you need something exact... ;) |
| 13:42.46 | benoitc | ok :) |
| 13:43.17 | benoitc | hum I should create an initrd when I create the kernel... How to do it ? |
| 13:43.48 | DelTree | you have to play with the options of make-kpkg... |
| 13:45.15 | DelTree | --initrd |
| 13:45.25 | DelTree | if I read the man correctly... |
| 13:47.20 | benoitc | ok seem there is a pb with testing, on stable debian mac mini stay quiet |
| 13:48.09 | Bor_Ed | g3:~# mkinitrd.yaird -o 2.6-14.img |
| 13:48.09 | Bor_Ed | yaird error: unrecognised device: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:10.0/0.f3000000:mac-io/0.00020000:ide |
| 13:48.23 | Bor_Ed | geebus, my ide controller isn't compatible with linux :o |
| 13:48.31 | DelTree | ? |
| 13:48.45 | Bor_Ed | well, that's what I gather from the buggr :I |
| 13:48.55 | benoitc | mmm initrd doesn't work on testing but work on stable ... |
| 13:49.07 | Bor_Ed | whoopee... no ide on the lib/modules either :o |
| 13:49.10 | benoitc | Bor_Ed, are you in testing/unstable |
| 13:49.12 | benoitc | ? |
| 13:49.16 | Bor_Ed | unstable |
| 13:49.41 | Bor_Ed | hmm, now how in hell I'll get the sys booting with quik :o |
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| 16:47.49 | benoitc | re |
| 16:48.27 | DelTree | re |
| 16:49.59 | Bor_Ed | re |
| 16:58.26 | benoitc | mmmm when I mkofboot it told me that /dev/nvram doesn't exist and so nvram can't be update |
| 16:58.37 | benoitc | what I missed ? any id ? |
| 16:59.27 | demon | you built a custom kernel, and didn't include support for the NVRAM char device? |
| 16:59.41 | benoitc | mmm maybe |
| 16:59.59 | demon | I didn't think it would even let you build a ppc kernel without that, really |
| 17:00.50 | benoitc | demon, that's it :| |
| 17:00.59 | benoitc | hum I have to bug kernel maintener |
| 17:08.17 | DelTree | ou ca sur irc ?1 |
| 17:08.37 | DelTree | oops... |
| 17:10.54 | sktrdie | is it true that PPC is more powerful when it comes to graphic editing..? |
| 17:13.45 | DelTree | no curly braces on mac keyboard ? |
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| 17:37.29 | benoitc | DelTree, alt + ( |
| 17:37.57 | benoitc | sktrdie, yes, because of altivec and float calculation |
| 17:43.30 | benoitc | hum no suitable ramdisk generationtool for kernel 2.6.14 ..... hgow to do an initrd so ? |
| 17:43.51 | benoitc | I haven't this error on stable though |
| 17:44.56 | SimonRaven | yaird initramfs-tools or something |
| 17:47.55 | Bor_Ed | whines too from the unrecognized device |
| 17:49.47 | sktrdie | benotic: why x86 doesnt have that? |
| 17:54.47 | benoitc | it does now but less powerfull sse and so on |
| 17:55.17 | benoitc | SimonRaven, initrd-tools did the trick |
| 17:56.22 | SimonRaven | ok |
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| 18:02.33 | benoitc | thx :) |
| 18:06.49 | SimonRaven | np |
| 18:07.44 | SimonRaven | FYI, i HTTPS enabled my site, so you folks don't have to worry about logging in to the wiki bit on an unencrypted connection. just stick 's' in http:// ;) |
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| 18:54.57 | dylanre | anyone in here? |
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| 18:55.46 | Bor_Ed | nope? |
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| 19:24.03 | fo0bar_ | benoitc: I hacked together a non-devfs initrd for 2.6.14 and booting an LVM room... but it was real ugly |
| 19:24.27 | fo0bar_ | err root |
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| 19:51.34 | elSinuX | hello, im tring to get the vga out work for an old ibook any clue? thks |
| 19:52.01 | SimonRaven | stick around someone with more clue than i should show up |
| 19:53.18 | elSinuX | ehhm? |
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| 20:02.18 | elSinuX | I need to present my final these and i want give it in my DEBIAN, please does any body know how to get vga out for an ibook? thks |
| 20:08.19 | elSinuX | basicaly I get nothing when I conect it to an external monitor |
| 20:09.16 | benoitc | elSinuX, use xorg 7.0rc1 |
| 20:11.19 | benoitc | should work |
| 20:11.54 | Bor_Ed | hmm, new kernel compile, old prob (VFS: can not mount root (hda7) yadayada block (3,7) |
| 20:14.20 | SimonRaven | is it mountable normally? |
| 20:15.03 | Bor_Ed | well, it boots from bootx |
| 20:15.17 | Bor_Ed | and works just fine |
| 20:16.32 | Bor_Ed | something says me that convert from ext3 back to ext2 broke the FS |
| 20:16.47 | Bor_Ed | though bootx mounts it as clean ext2 |
| 20:18.01 | elSinuX | ok, do you know how to install de Xorg 7.0-rc1 ? |
| 20:18.49 | Bor_Ed | rsync the tree from x.org and package yourself |
| 20:24.38 | benoitc | elSinuX, dunno under debianppc, you can dl source here : http://xorg.freedesktop.org/snapshots/ |
| 20:24.56 | benoitc | elSinuX, you could also try gatos drivers : http://xorg.freedesktop.org/snapshots/ |
| 20:25.07 | benoitc | err : http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ |
| 20:27.57 | benoitc | these drivers are included in last version ogf xorg |
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| 20:36.43 | elSinuX | so i have to wait until 7.0 get releese or compile the tar? |
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| 20:40.07 | Coutal | can anyone here help me? for some reason, all the kernels i compile crash - seemingly when loading macserial. |
| 20:40.59 | Bor_Ed | Coutal: what kinda box? |
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| 20:41.09 | Bor_Ed | still the g3? |
| 20:41.17 | Coutal | never was a g3 :P it's a powermac 5500 |
| 20:41.22 | Bor_Ed | grmbl... 5500 |
| 20:41.24 | Coutal | but it shares a lot of hardware with the g3 |
| 20:41.43 | Bor_Ed | just get debian .config and change it for your needs |
| 20:42.00 | Coutal | that's exactly what i did. but i'm running 2.6.14 vanilla. maybe i need debian patches? |
| 20:42.27 | Bor_Ed | naa... at least the 2.6.14-1 config from debian compiled cleanly here to 2.6.14 vanilla |
| 20:42.54 | Coutal | weird. |
| 20:43.17 | Bor_Ed | oh, ran the kernel too but it was way too bloated |
| 20:43.38 | Coutal | btw does the initrd tool make a working initrd for you? |
| 20:43.45 | Bor_Ed | nope |
| 20:43.52 | Coutal | :( |
| 20:43.57 | Bor_Ed | it's some bug on sid and testing afaik |
| 20:44.01 | Coutal | i think it doesn't like the O'Hare bridge. |
| 20:44.44 | Bor_Ed | yup, complaints about ide device here |
| 20:45.18 | Coutal | well, it is right in a sense - the O'Hare doesn't register itself as an IDE controller. |
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| 20:56.31 | Bor_Ed | well it shows up as ide@20000 on my dev / ls |
| 20:57.04 | Coutal | Bor_Ed: but look at lspci output. it's class is ff00 |
| 20:57.18 | Coutal | a "standard" ide controller has an IDE controller class |
| 20:57.52 | Bor_Ed | yup |
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| 21:19.01 | mrwick | right spelling, no affiliation.. I'm actually just a regular (although, no benefits) part time worker |
| 21:19.08 | mrwick | <- duh |
| 21:19.13 | mrwick | wrong window |
| 21:19.20 | Bor_Ed | lol, figures :D |
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| 21:20.00 | Bor_Ed | NARF would be a good start :) |
| 21:20.31 | mrwick | POIT |
| 21:20.33 | Bor_Ed | it doesn't tend to let geeks/nerds 'cool' |
| 21:21.09 | Bor_Ed | but what are you planning to do today? |
| 21:22.08 | mrwick | _try_to_TAKE_OVER_THE_WORLD_*!*!*!*!* |
| 21:22.25 | Bor_Ed | mmm, I see a real nerd on the chan :D |
| 21:22.49 | Bor_Ed | http://70.85.182.122:13631/;stream.nsv <b>Pinky and the Brain<br></b> |
| 21:22.56 | Bor_Ed | should play in mplayer :) |
| 21:24.18 | mrwick | heh.. server full |
| 21:24.38 | mirak | hey |
| 21:24.46 | mirak | there is no mac-fdisk for x86 ? |
| 21:24.48 | Bor_Ed | try again |
| 21:25.03 | Bor_Ed | I used to have some loop to try that... forgotten by now |
| 21:25.25 | mirak | I want to resize a mac disk |
| 21:25.43 | mirak | in fact I just need to extend the extended partition |
| 21:26.03 | Bor_Ed | not sure if there are tools in linux/ppc either for such |
| 21:26.28 | mirak | well I just need to delete the partition en recreate it |
| 21:26.37 | mirak | that's scary but I did it on x86 |
| 21:26.57 | Bor_Ed | you just need apple partition map enabled on x86 linux kernel and you should be able to use cfdisk to partition |
| 21:27.02 | mirak | in fact I dd a smaller drive into a bigger one so there is space left |
| 21:27.23 | mirak | well I can mount this partitions without a problem |
| 21:27.32 | mrwick | [to Bor_Ed:] no go, still ICY 400 Server Full |
| 21:29.18 | Bor_Ed | mrwick: it'll take _some_ time but gives nice treat when you get in :) |
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| 21:30.45 | Bor_Ed | it was something like while !=(mplayer bleh);do loop or similar |
| 21:33.30 | Bor_Ed | mrwick: var=1;while [ "$var" != "0" ]; do [COMMAND]; var=$?;done |
| 21:33.40 | Bor_Ed | for [command] the obvious |
| 21:34.06 | Bor_Ed | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.44 | Curalton | while ! mplayer bla bla; do :; done |
| 21:36.01 | Bor_Ed | that's the old ver I used... |
| 21:36.06 | Curalton | or a "echo failed, restarting" instead of ':; ' |
| 21:36.07 | Bor_Ed | grmbl |
| 21:36.24 | mrwick | hmm.. I seem to only have VLC and it doesn't have an access module. |
| 21:36.56 | mrwick | apt-get here I come! .. now.. mplayer was a marrilat.fr, I think it's still there. . |
| 21:38.26 | Bor_Ed | #deb http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/linux-ppc/debian/ mplayer/ |
| 21:38.34 | Bor_Ed | prolly where I got the mplayer from |
| 21:38.45 | Bor_Ed | vlc or xine should do too |
| 21:46.01 | Bor_Ed | just leave the script running with speakers at 100% :D |
| 21:46.17 | Bor_Ed | http://70.85.182.122:12521/;stream.nsv <b>Ren and Stimpy<br></b> |
| 21:46.22 | Bor_Ed | http://70.85.110.218:11411/;stream.nsv <b>Rocko's modern life<br></b> |
| 21:46.23 | mrwick | yeah.. I think I'll keep my job :> |
| 21:46.25 | mirak | mplayer is illegal ? |
| 21:46.27 | Bor_Ed | are decent streams too |
| 21:46.47 | Bor_Ed | mplayer ships with code that ain't gpl compliant |
| 21:47.00 | mirak | for some codecs ? |
| 21:47.13 | Bor_Ed | I'd guess so |
| 21:47.33 | mirak | but nobody ever threatened them |
| 21:47.34 | mirak | ? |
| 21:47.57 | Bor_Ed | I have no idea on that |
| 21:52.50 | mirak | I am curious, |
| 21:53.08 | mirak | have you heard about stuffs in happening in france ? |
| 21:53.38 | Bor_Ed | yup, euronews has more or less 24/7 broadcast up here currently |
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| 22:04.56 | gilligan_ | hi |
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| 22:08.39 | gilligan_ | I have a question concerning parition layout -- I am thinking about resizing my existing linux partitions on my powerbook in order to install OSX for dualboot -- now I am wondering If I am going to face any OSX/booting specific problems with this ? |
| 22:10.08 | gilligan_ | looking at parition layout described in http://penguinppc.org/bootloaders/yaboot/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.shtml I suppose I am facing troubles |
| 22:11.44 | gilligan_ | parted does not support moving ext3 partitions, and I don't have Apple_Driver43 and Apple_Driver_IOKit .. partitions as the first partitions |
| 22:12.14 | gilligan_ | i suppose these need to be first on the hdd? |
| 22:12.16 | gilligan_ | anyone? :) |
| 22:13.17 | demon | the driver partitions are irrelevant to OS X |
| 22:13.31 | demon | they're only necessary if you intend to boot pre-OS X versions of MacOS |
| 22:13.36 | gilligan_ | ah |
| 22:13.54 | demon | I don't have them on my pismo at all |
| 22:14.06 | demon | and linux and OS X 10.4 both boot fine |
| 22:14.45 | gilligan_ | well right now I've got.. hda1=Partition map, hda2=Apple Bootstrap, hda3=Linux root, hda4=Linux swap |
| 22:14.52 | demon | yeah, that's fine |
| 22:15.01 | gilligan_ | so it should be OK if I just make space at the end and insert OSX there? |
| 22:15.25 | gilligan_ | s/insert/append |
| 22:15.34 | demon | yep... you'll probably do best to just make the partition in Linux though, because OS X will want to break all your other partitions |
| 22:15.50 | demon | just make it type Apple_HFS, and the name can be whatever you like |
| 22:16.01 | gilligan_ | ah ic |
| 22:16.15 | gilligan_ | thanks for the info |
| 22:16.31 | demon | then boot into the OS X install disc, go into Disc Utility, and "erase" it (it just formats it) |
| 22:16.39 | demon | and install as normal |
| 22:16.42 | gilligan_ | oki |
| 22:17.19 | gilligan_ | still find the idea of partition resizing with parted somewhat scary.. i best do some backups first hehe |
| 22:17.41 | demon | I've resized before without a problem using parted |
| 22:17.42 | gilligan_ | however I suppose parted is mature by now |
| 22:17.49 | gilligan_ | good to know :) |
| 22:17.54 | demon | and ext[23] resizing code is pretty mature, yeah |
| 22:18.08 | demon | just make sure it's not mounted r/w :) |
| 22:18.14 | gilligan_ | hehe |
| 22:18.28 | demon | and fsck it first, just in case |
| 22:18.49 | gilligan_ | yeah.. actually I was gonna look for some mini live-cd with parted on it |
| 22:18.53 | gilligan_ | if there is such a thing |
| 22:19.28 | demon | well, you should probably be okay if you just kick it into single user mode, remount the filesystem with ro,sync, and then run parted from there |
| 22:19.32 | demon | I've done it before |
| 22:19.59 | gilligan_ | okay,well that's an option aswell |
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| 22:27.18 | olkd | hi all |
| 22:27.34 | olkd | make: no system rules (sys.mk) |
| 22:27.48 | olkd | what might be problem? |
| 22:28.34 | demon | (a) don't IRC as root; (b) you've told us nothing. you need to tell us what you're building, what command you're running, etc. |
| 22:28.59 | Coutal | it's a user error. |
| 22:29.14 | Coutal | replace the user and try again. |
| 22:29.29 | olkd | exit |
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| 22:30.33 | chatt | hi all |
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| 22:31.09 | chatt | any idea why make gives me: make: no system rules (mk.sys) |
| 22:31.53 | demon | again, you haven't even told us what you're trying to build |
| 22:31.57 | demon | so we can't help you |
| 22:32.04 | gilligan_ | funny...there was some guy having the same problem shortly before |
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| 22:32.08 | gilligan_ | .... |
| 22:32.10 | gilligan_ | :) |
| 22:32.22 | chatt | demon: if I give it even in empty directory |
| 22:32.57 | chatt | demon: or doing debuild -uc -us with toolchain-source |
| 22:34.18 | chatt | gilligan_: really? :) |
| 22:36.07 | gilligan_ | yeah.. but he was a weirdo |
| 22:38.43 | gilligan_ | demon, from the top of your head, throw some figure at me .. how much does a OSX installation eat up.. ? been so long that i've last installed osx anywhere. I can't even recall if it offers any preset templates like minimal/full/whatever |
| 22:39.46 | os2finn_7248 | Might this be because this is PPC Prep host? |
| 22:40.52 | demon | gilligan: I gave it about 12 GB... if you strip the install down some, you can probably fit it into 4-5 GB, but it won't be as useful... 10 GB would give you some breathing room to install apps and such |
| 22:42.33 | gilligan_ | demon, I really won't be using it for much I think.. actually I just want to install it in order to get access to the WLAN at the campus .. vpnclient won't work there |
| 22:43.02 | gilligan_ | which of course sucks alot |
| 22:43.19 | gilligan_ | as installing OSX merely for wlan access is somewhat stupid |
| 23:08.37 | gilligan_ | debian pasta : http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/photos/Debian-Ursuppe/dscn0130.html |
| 23:08.38 | gilligan_ | :) |
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| 23:27.53 | dylanre | will debian run on an imac G5? |
| 23:31.05 | dj-death | it does |
| 23:35.23 | dylanre | with the iso's up on debian.org? or do i need a special build? |
| 23:35.38 | dylanre | and does it run in 64 bit or 32? |
| 23:36.16 | dj-death | hmmm |
| 23:36.31 | dj-death | there is a project for debian on ppc64 |
| 23:37.31 | dj-death | you can run 32 bits too |
| 23:38.12 | dj-death | using a power4 kernel package |
| 23:38.41 | dj-death | http://debian-ppc64.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 23:42.18 | dylanre | thanks, checking it out |
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