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| 00:30.55 | Buddha| | How do I bind the second and third mouse buttons to keyboard keys? I have a 2004 iBook, and right now I can't right-click. |
| 01:03.49 | pahartik | Buddha|: "sudo sysctl -a | grep mouse_button" |
| 01:05.57 | Buddha| | pahartik: button2_keycode = 97; button3_keycode = 100 |
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| 01:24.53 | Buddha| | pahartik: Okay, keycode 100 is left arrow, and keycode 97 is fn-left arrow |
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| 01:31.14 | pahartik | Buddha|: one can figure out keycodes with "xev" for example |
| 01:32.10 | Buddha| | pahartik: I got them figured out. 100 is left arrow and 97 is fn-left arrow, but they don't do anything mouse-related |
| 01:32.30 | Coutal | pahartik: what would be the root device on a pmac 6500 with no devfsd? i tried the /dev/disk/ide/... thing and it didn't work |
| 01:33.28 | Coutal | btw, i have exchanged e-mails with one of the mach64 developers. i'm going to finish my work with this patch until someone writes full openfirmware support, instead of beautifying this hack |
| 01:41.26 | Buddha| | What file are all the active keycodes listed in? |
| 01:42.34 | pahartik | Coutal: could be something like "/dev/hda[2-9]"... |
| 01:43.12 | pahartik | Buddha|: "xmodmap -pke" |
| 01:43.34 | Coutal | pahartik: but it doesn't work for me for some reason. |
| 01:43.35 | Coutal | hmm |
| 01:43.39 | Coutal | maybe it's bootx messing it up |
| 01:47.16 | Coutal | that's odd |
| 01:47.24 | Coutal | i booted up with an initrd, and init=/bin/sh |
| 01:47.27 | Coutal | there's no /dev/hda at all. |
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| 01:48.05 | Buddha| | pahartik: Yes, I've already figured out which keycodes they are. Now I need to change them. |
| 01:57.22 | Buddha| | So what file does Linux read the keycodes from when it starts up? |
| 02:03.45 | Buddha| | I want to have F11 and F12 be the middle and right mouse buttons, respectively. How do I do this? |
| 02:08.43 | Buddha| | hello? |
| 02:14.38 | Buddha| | How do I bind the second and third mouse buttons to keyboard keys? I have a 2004 iBook, and right now I can't right-click. |
| 02:18.12 | Buddha| | pahartik? anyone? |
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| 02:23.24 | pahartik | Buddha|: "man sysctl" |
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| 02:50.54 | Buddha| | I tried 'sysctl -w dev.mac_hid.mouse_button2_keycode=95', but it doesn't do anything |
| 02:53.03 | pahartik | Buddha|: i have 87 and 88 for <F11> and <F12> |
| 02:54.33 | Buddha| | pahartik: 'xmodmap -pke' says that 87 and 88 are KP1 and KP2 |
| 02:56.24 | pahartik | Buddha|: yes, you are right... that is strange |
| 02:57.14 | Buddha| | 87 and 88 don't do anything, either |
| 02:57.21 | pahartik | Buddha|: but i use <F11> and <F12> for second and third mouse button |
| 02:58.27 | Buddha| | Do you have an iBook? |
| 02:58.27 | pahartik | Buddha|: if they "do nothing", make sure that emulation is enabled... |
| 02:58.42 | Buddha| | and how do I do that? |
| 02:59.41 | pahartik | Buddha|: "sudo sysctl -a | grep mouse_button" covers that too |
| 02:59.58 | Buddha| | No, it doesn't |
| 03:00.16 | pahartik | Buddha|: "dev.mac_hid.mouse_button_emulation = 1" |
| 03:00.28 | Buddha| | It tells me what the information is. It doesn't tell me how to change it. *THAT* is the information I need. |
| 03:01.40 | pahartik | Buddha|: it shows current settings... |
| 03:01.59 | Buddha| | I know that. I need to know how to *change* those settings |
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| 03:05.07 | maclover | i am having sound issues on my Mac Mini |
| 03:05.21 | maclover | "/dev/dsp not found" |
| 03:05.22 | pahartik | Buddha|: just tried 'sudo sysctl -w dev.mac_hid.mouse_button2_keycode="99"' and it was changed... |
| 03:06.12 | maclover | i am having "/dev/dsp not found" errors on my mac mini |
| 03:06.38 | maclover | i am a n00b |
| 03:06.56 | maclover | i need some help here |
| 03:07.03 | Buddha| | Yes, I get that too, but the F11 and F12 keys just print tildes to my xterm |
| 03:07.30 | Buddha| | and emulation is set to 0 |
| 03:07.36 | maclover | "dev/dsp not found": explain |
| 03:07.59 | maclover | how do i set up sound on my Mac Mini |
| 03:08.14 | pahartik | Buddha|: "0" means disabled, "1" means enabled |
| 03:08.47 | Buddha| | pahartik: I know that. It's incredibly obvious. Tell me how to change it. |
| 03:08.57 | pahartik | maclover: latest Linux 2.6 kernel might have support for that audio hardware |
| 03:09.03 | maclover | i need help seriously! |
| 03:09.58 | maclover | i am still getting /dev/dsp not found on sarge |
| 03:11.00 | pahartik | Buddha|: 'sudo sysctl -w dev.mac_hid.mouse_button_emulation="1"' |
| 03:11.43 | pahartik | Buddha|: just turned it off and on here, seemed to work |
| 03:13.46 | pahartik | maclover: yes, build latest Linux 2.6 kernel, might have support already |
| 03:15.21 | Buddha| | it works until I reboot |
| 03:17.17 | pahartik | Buddha|: very good, "FILES" and "SEE ALSO" section of "man sysctl" cover that |
| 03:18.24 | Buddha| | how do I see what keymap I have loaded? |
| 03:25.02 | Buddha| | Oh, nevermind. I forgot. It takes you three hours to answer a simple question. |
| 03:25.04 | Buddha| | I'll go ask someone who actually knows Linux |
| 03:29.58 | SimonRaven | Buddha|: he is helping you, and he does know, so please refrain from abusing the helpers |
| 03:30.57 | Buddha| | SimonRaven: All he's told me so far, in *three hours*, is how to find the information, not how to change it. |
| 03:31.21 | Buddha| | I don't have another three hours to waste |
| 03:31.27 | SimonRaven | yes, but if you can't go read, then don't bother |
| 03:31.37 | SimonRaven | fuck that |
| 03:32.30 | SimonRaven | 3 times today i've seen people abuse helpers when the helpers have been more than nice to them, and giving them good info. he's lucky i didn't outright ban him. i'm fed up with it |
| 03:32.53 | SimonRaven | people want shit handed to them on silver plates.... |
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| 06:29.00 | piem | "the service centre thought debian was like a theme for osx." w00t!? :) |
| 06:49.54 | SimonRaven | o_O |
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| 08:10.25 | ottoaim | anyone have debian on an apple powerbook? I'm having issues with it seeing my battery. It's also not scaling the cpu freq |
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| 08:56.23 | midg3t | i have a g4 ibook |
| 08:56.52 | midg3t | doesn't appear to scale the cpu but i think because of the ppc design it doesn't really change anything |
| 08:57.11 | midg3t | no need to scale |
| 08:59.11 | locust | midg3t: i used to use a g4/800 ibook with ubuntu and it would scale the cpu moderately (from ~600mhz to ~800mhz) iirc |
| 09:08.45 | ottoaim | hmm seems I need to compile some things into my kernel to make it work for cpu scaling. as for my battery monitor not working I think I need apm emulation? |
| 09:08.57 | ottoaim | does this sound correct? |
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| 09:16.20 | midg3t | you definitely need apm emulation |
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| 09:17.22 | midg3t | i think i compiled all cpufreq stuff into my kernel a few weeks ago and all i got was my cpu running at 50% speed... probably because i chose userspace governor (though there were no cpufreq things in sysfs so the userspace apps couldn't change the frequency) |
| 09:17.46 | midg3t | let me see.. |
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| 09:18.37 | midg3t | yep. cpu is idle and its sitting at 1.42 GHz |
| 09:19.18 | ottoaim | midg3t: thanks |
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| 09:40.02 | piem | midg3t: cpu scaling saves a *lot* of battery time |
| 09:40.18 | piem | ottoaim: do you have cpufreq* modules loaded ? |
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| 10:28.27 | midg3t | piem: i noticed that on an x86 notebook, but on my 1.42 GHz G4 iBook there seems to be no discernable change |
| 10:28.58 | johill | it does make quite a difference on my 1.67 gzh powerbook |
| 10:29.13 | midg3t | i'll have to test more then |
| 10:30.32 | johill | hm trying now |
| 10:30.34 | johill | maybe not |
| 10:30.56 | johill | I suppose I thought there was a real difference because I have powernowd that only steps it up when the cpu is actually doing something |
| 10:31.04 | johill | and obviously in that case it does need more power ;) |
| 10:31.18 | midg3t | yep |
| 10:31.38 | johill | I'm now down to about half my battery (about 1 hour left) and the difference is about 15 minutes |
| 10:32.41 | johill | so it's significant but not that much really |
| 10:33.03 | midg3t | do you use laptop-mode? |
| 10:33.38 | johill | yes |
| 10:34.04 | johill | but it isn't kicking in right now, doing too much stuff |
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| 15:20.42 | curosurf | I'm installing linux on my ibook what should partition the table to? / /boot /home /tmp /usr /var /usr/local /opt |
| 15:24.25 | lixus | curosurf, if only used by a single user you can put all into one big partition |
| 15:24.49 | curosurf | just / ? |
| 15:25.08 | curosurf | the install keeps on complaing about the apple boot strap |
| 15:25.23 | demon | you need to make an 800 KB bootstrap partition |
| 15:25.57 | curosurf | should be bootstrap be ext2 or 3? |
| 15:26.11 | johill | hfs? |
| 15:26.12 | demon | neither, just set the "bootable" flag |
| 15:26.23 | demon | the installer will do the right thing |
| 15:27.08 | curosurf | got it sorted |
| 15:27.22 | curosurf | just need a swap partition now |
| 15:27.46 | curosurf | so you reckon I need; bootstrap / /swap |
| 15:29.09 | demon | the swap partition doesn't have a mount point |
| 15:29.31 | demon | it's not a filesystem |
| 15:50.11 | curosurf | is there support for airport cards in linux? |
| 15:50.39 | curosurf | Could I use such a card for the university campus? |
| 15:54.36 | demon | the 11 Mbit airport cards work fine, I have one in my PowerBook G3 Pismo |
| 15:54.48 | demon | the "AirPort Extreme" cards, however, do not |
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| 16:29.52 | os2finn | hi all |
| 16:30.06 | Bor_Ed | morning |
| 16:30.19 | os2finn | Hi bor_ed |
| 16:30.32 | Bor_Ed | :) |
| 16:31.26 | os2finn | Bor_ed: I have some probs compiling mach for powerpc |
| 16:31.43 | Bor_Ed | how I ain't suprised :) |
| 16:32.04 | os2finn | Bor_ed: error message: __builtin_saveregs not supported by this target |
| 16:32.14 | os2finn | :( this makes me very unhappy |
| 16:32.17 | Bor_Ed | out of my leaue... tried #mklinux ? |
| 16:32.52 | os2finn | Bor_ed: Yep seems that no one there uses/deals with that anymore |
| 16:33.03 | Bor_Ed | tried #unix ? |
| 16:33.21 | os2finn | bor_ed: hmmm... no but gcc |
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| 16:44.53 | os2finn | bor_ed: and BTW it seems this is also out of my league :) |
| 16:45.02 | Bor_Ed | hehe |
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| 16:51.14 | [g2] | any Black Dogs in here ? |
| 16:52.12 | [g2] | as in http://www.projectblackdog.com |
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| 21:57.37 | benoitc | hi all |
| 21:57.51 | benoitc | does anyone have success with video out and powerbook ? |
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| 22:59.31 | benoitc | bah rien à voi avec nux. impressionant le gain pour certaines choses |
| 22:59.37 | benoitc | oups |
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| 23:30.55 | ottoaim | I'm having an issue with cpufreq. I set it for conservative and it scaled down, but never back up when I needed it to |
| 23:32.12 | ottoaim | I also have tried using ondemand with the same results |