| 00:00.08 | malenfant | good day... anyone know how to setup MIDI with ALSA on a iBook for use with something like rosegarden? I'm not sure how to configure it all, and haven't come up with any decent resources (yet) |
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| 09:27.40 | nohero | ciao |
| 09:39.50 | SimonRaven | hi |
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| 09:55.44 | Corsac | hi there |
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| 10:25.45 | nohero | a question: i compile the kernel with debian way |
| 10:26.27 | nohero | so if i make a small change, i need to do make-kpkg clean? |
| 10:27.44 | nohero | this is the command: fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version `date +"-%Y-%m-%d"` kernel_image kernel_headers |
| 10:29.05 | nohero | without the make-kpkg clean i had an error if the append-to-version change |
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| 12:59.08 | cmdk | hello guys, I am trying to install linux on Mac os X and i just want to know the process of detecting which os to choose on booting |
| 12:59.22 | Corsac | linux on macosx ? |
| 12:59.28 | cmdk | yes |
| 13:02.36 | cmdk | the system asked me to install "yaboot" so i accepted but then it sais "impossible to create a partion" |
| 13:05.05 | midg3t | yaboot will allow you to choose your OS when you boot |
| 13:05.17 | midg3t | first you need to use macos' Disk Utility to make room for linux |
| 13:06.52 | cmdk | in this case is it possible to install it on an external disk ? |
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| 13:11.19 | midg3t | probably, though i've never done it |
| 13:11.25 | midg3t | i'm a newbie to linux+ppc |
| 13:11.31 | midg3t | (well, not linux, but ppc and linux on ppc) |
| 13:12.20 | witch | midg3t: There is a nice manual for installing Debian on a mac mini |
| 13:13.05 | pahartik | cmdk: it is easy to have MacOS X on IEEE-1394 harddisk... it requires tricks to have Linux on IEEE-1394 harddisk |
| 13:13.18 | cmdk | ok, I see and to create a new partion specifically to linux do i have to format all my system to create it? |
| 13:13.27 | ghost-x | it's easy ti install debian on ppc lol |
| 13:13.39 | ghost-x | hello, ( sorry ) |
| 13:13.41 | witch | cmdk: I have partitioned my mac |
| 13:14.02 | cmdk | witch, how can i do it? |
| 13:14.12 | witch | with diskutil |
| 13:15.02 | witch | http://www.sowerbutts.com/linux-mac-mini/ |
| 13:16.07 | witch | The partitioning is a bit tricky. You may try several times. OS X may not use the whole disk sometimes. |
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| 13:17.38 | demon | Apple's partitioning tools like to leave 128 MB gaps between partitions, as well |
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| 13:30.10 | cmdk | ok thank you guys have a nice day |
| 13:30.27 | Corsac | does someone runs xfce4 ? |
| 13:30.52 | pahartik | Corsac: yes, on iBook G4 |
| 13:30.57 | Corsac | ah |
| 13:31.07 | Corsac | can you try some things for me ? |
| 13:31.31 | Corsac | i'm a member of the xfce debian team, we are currently packaging 4.3.2.1 |
| 13:31.41 | Corsac | and i have a weird bug with xfce-mcs-manager |
| 13:32.28 | Corsac | using 4.3.2.1, i can pkill -USR1 from a shell, everything is fine, but if I do the same thing in a shell script, xfce-mcs-manager crashs |
| 13:33.45 | Corsac | i'm rebuilding packages at the moment, but could you try xfce-mcs-manager 4.2.3.1 and tell me if you got the bug ? (because i don't have it on sparc, and other guys on x86 don't have it either) |
| 13:35.03 | pahartik | Corsac: i only have "xfce4 4.2.2" |
| 13:35.36 | Corsac | yes, i'll provide you packages for 4.2.3.1 :) |
| 13:35.43 | Corsac | just give me the time to rebuild them |
| 13:39.27 | pahartik | Corsac: no problem |
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| 14:29.22 | Corsac | ok |
| 14:29.25 | Corsac | pahartik: SYN |
| 14:35.12 | pahartik | Corsac: SYN, ACK |
| 14:35.19 | Corsac | pahartik: ACK |
| 14:35.19 | Corsac | :) |
| 14:35.32 | Corsac | deb http://xfce.corsac.net unstable main |
| 14:36.07 | Corsac | all xfce 4.2.3 is here, but you just have to apt-get install xfce-mcs-manager and xfce-mcs-plugins |
| 14:37.30 | pahartik | Corsac: do you mind if i try on PowerMacintosh 7300 instead? |
| 14:37.45 | Corsac | well, as soon as you're on debian ... :) |
| 14:38.03 | Corsac | well, hrm, powermac 7300 is g4 ? |
| 14:38.48 | pahartik | Corsac: it does have PowerPC 604e and xserver-xorg |
| 14:38.57 | Corsac | ok |
| 14:40.41 | pahartik | Corsac: so point is to test your "xfce-mcs-manager" and "xfce-mcs-plugins" with "xfce4 4.2.2"? |
| 14:41.40 | Corsac | well, you can upgrade all your xfce (be advised that we may change things before uploading to unstable), but I just need you to test with xfce-mcs-manager/plugin 4.2.3, you can stay on xfce 4.2.2 |
| 14:52.55 | pahartik | Corsac: XFCE4 up and running, what kind of shell script would you suggest? |
| 14:53.20 | Corsac | so |
| 14:53.32 | Corsac | 1) just try (in a term) pkill -USR1 -f xfce-mcs-manager |
| 14:53.55 | Corsac | and tell me if xfce-mcs-manager crashs (you'll see your gtk theme disappear, for example) |
| 14:58.53 | pahartik | Corsac: "xfce-mcs-manager" process remains running with same PID, after multiple hits with SIGUSR1 |
| 14:59.00 | Corsac | ok |
| 14:59.08 | Corsac | now just write a script like this: |
| 14:59.11 | Corsac | #! /bin/bash |
| 14:59.17 | Corsac | pkill -USR1 -f xfce-mcs-manager |
| 14:59.24 | Corsac | then run it, and tell me |
| 15:00.54 | pahartik | Corsac: it still runs |
| 15:01.09 | Corsac | ok |
| 15:01.11 | Corsac | hmhm |
| 15:01.37 | Corsac | it may be the 4.2.2 xfce-mcs-manager which is running |
| 15:01.44 | Corsac | and it may takes some time to crash |
| 15:01.59 | Corsac | could you pkill -f xfce-mcs-manager |
| 15:02.07 | Corsac | then rerun it |
| 15:02.21 | Corsac | then retry both operation (pkill -USR1 and pkill -USR1 in a script) |
| 15:04.34 | pahartik | Corsac: well, 4.2.2 was never installed on that system... this is fresh XFCE4 install with "xfce4-mcs-manager 4.2.3" and "xfce4-mcs-plugins 4.2.3" |
| 15:04.45 | Corsac | ok |
| 15:04.49 | Corsac | thank you |
| 15:04.56 | Corsac | it's still running ? |
| 15:06.11 | pahartik | Corsac: yes... |
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| 15:06.24 | pahartik | Corsac: well, i do not know if this is important, but... |
| 15:07.05 | Corsac | but ? |
| 15:08.33 | pahartik | Corsac: first time i did "startx" with XFCE4 as window manager, i am not sure if "xfce-mcs-manager" died after that "pkill -USR1 -f xfce-mcs-manager" |
| 15:09.17 | pahartik | Corsac: i did not check if it was running before sending signal, but it was not running after SIGUSR1 |
| 15:10.59 | Corsac | well, if the mcs-manager is not running, you only have the default gtk theme |
| 15:11.00 | pahartik | Corsac: so i restarted "xserver-xorg" and this time it is running |
| 15:11.04 | Corsac | ok |
| 15:14.58 | pahartik | Corsac: bug seems to not show up in here... |
| 15:15.14 | Corsac | ok thank you |
| 15:15.23 | Corsac | so it's on my box only |
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| 16:04.05 | Coutal | hey, does anyone know how to get debian's initrd maker tools to run for a kernel of your choice? they always seem to run for the running kernel |
| 16:04.11 | Coutal | (which is quite pointless) |
| 16:05.37 | stew | Coutal: mkinitrd takes a kernel version as its last argument |
| 16:07.03 | Coutal | but how would it know which module directory to use? i have both debian 2.6.14 and my own compiled 2.6.14 |
| 16:07.27 | Coutal | btw, the manpage doesn't say that. |
| 16:08.12 | stew | Coutal: it will use /lib/modules/${version} |
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| 16:11.12 | Anthro | What package is pdisk in? |
| 16:11.55 | Coutal | Anthro: mac-fdisk |
| 16:12.16 | Coutal | i wonder how come fdisk doesn't get merged with mac-fdisk |
| 16:12.23 | Coutal | it'd be much better this way |
| 16:13.25 | Anthro | Coutal: Thanks! |
| 16:16.35 | Anthro | Okay, I'm copying one disk onto another. Unfortunately, the target disk is slightly smaller than the source. My plan is to reduce the size of the swap partition to make it fit. Is there any easy way to change the size of the swap partition, then just shift all the other partitions up? I'm not talking about shifting data, since I haven't copied it yet, just the partitions. I'll be using dd to copy each partition. |
| 16:17.43 | Coutal | copying partitions with dd is not such a good idea. but there are resize tools. |
| 16:17.57 | Anthro | Why is it not a good idea? |
| 16:18.24 | Coutal | because it does not resize them. |
| 16:18.47 | Anthro | The only partition that will change size is swap, and there is no good reason to dd the swap partition anyway. |
| 16:19.19 | Coutal | but you said the target disk is smaller than the source. so the only way you can do that is when you resize the source partition. |
| 16:19.36 | Coutal | unless it has more data in it too, in which case there's nothing you can do. |
| 16:20.20 | Anthro | Coutal: The target *disk* is smaller than the source. I'm going to shrink the swap partition to make room for the full size of all the (non-swap) source partitions. |
| 16:21.25 | Coutal | if the disk is the one that is smaller, why copy the swap partition at all? just create the appropriate partition structure, then dd partitions one by one. |
| 16:23.10 | Anthro | Coutal: Exactly! I will be copying it partition by partition. Right now I am preparing the target partition table. |
| 16:24.09 | Anthro | Coutal: And I won't be copying the swap partition, since the data on it is useless, but I do need to prepare a target partition for it. |
| 16:26.51 | Coutal | Anthro: you don't have to. you can always create another one later, or a swap file instead. |
| 16:27.10 | Coutal | and it's better to preserve the exact partition size when copying with dxd |
| 16:27.23 | Coutal | dd even |
| 16:27.23 | Coutal | otherwise you might get unexpected results. |
| 16:27.23 | Anthro | Coutal: No, I need the partition numbers to come out right, and swap is not the last partition. |
| 16:27.46 | Anthro | And the partition sizes will, indeed, be identical. Other than the non-copied swap. |
| 16:31.01 | Anthro | What block size should I use for the dd? It won't be efficient anyway since I am copying from master to slave on the same IDE bus, but I'm looking for the best I can do. |
| 16:31.40 | Anthro | Actually, screw it. All the partition sizes are listed as 512-byte blocks. |
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| 17:04.38 | Coutal | say, i've written (well, more like copy-pasted :P) code to poke the i2c bus behind the via-cuda. but since a device will generate an ack to the cuda, the cuda will not report that to no one. (it's evident from the awacs code). so, do you have any idea how to probe the devices behind the bus and how to test if they do respond? |
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| 22:08.39 | stazich | hi, can anyone help me with regards to Xfree86 on an iMac?? i have a G3 350 with ATI 3D Rage pro, and am wondering how to best set up X on it.. i manage to get the 1024*768 fine but when i try to switch to something higher, my screen becomes smaller... anyone know how to fix that?? and is anything above 1024 supported well?? |
| 22:34.58 | benoitc | mmm could anyone told me which cflags are used by debianppc ? |
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| 22:35.41 | kpanic | hi guys, I'm using vlc 0.8.4-test2-2 under debian unstable ppc and set Prefs->Output modules->Alsa audio output but vlc tries always to open /dev/dsp, any clues? |