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00:20.57mirakgiskard: Giscard was a french president
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02:19.09stazichhey, i have free space on /dev/hda5, and want to fill it with a Ext3 linux partition... how do i do that??
02:32.56Alex`use partman or part-man, whatever that partition util is called
02:33.36pahartikstazich: "man mkfs.ext3"
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08:17.23Bor_Edhmm, how one gives parameters to dh_make (as in --target etc)?
08:25.21Bor_Edaltering the CONFARGS seemed to do the trick :o
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10:11.54reDFognobody know an amule repository for sarge?
10:19.00SimonRaventhere isn't any. why would you even need one?
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12:41.13[paZx]hello, how many Mb needs yaboot partition?
12:41.57dj-deathmine is ~20Mb
12:42.44[paZx]i see.. it must be the first partition or i can put evrywhere on the disk?
12:43.13dj-deathmine is hda6
12:43.26[paZx]ok, thanks dj-death
12:43.30dj-deathbut
12:43.52dj-deathyou need a table partition as first partition
12:44.26dj-deathif you're using macos this partition is already there
12:44.44[paZx]i deleted all partitions on my disk
12:44.45dj-deathit's a few Kb partition
12:45.13[paZx]and now i need to repartition all disk
12:45.17dj-deathif you install debian this will be done automaticly I think
12:45.31[paZx]so can i put in hda1 mac osx, and yabbot in hda2?
12:45.44[paZx]ok.. now i try, thanks
12:46.00dj-deathyes
12:46.08dj-deathyou can put yaboot anywhere
12:47.18dj-deathif you already had removed everything, you can try until it works ;)
12:53.25[paZx]dj-death, i will do that :)
12:53.53Corsacdoes someone use gphoto2 ?
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14:02.46giskardSimonRaven, uhm apt-cache doesn't show me something about hcftools
14:02.56giskardprobably beacuase i'm on a x86 pc?
14:04.26johillthere's no such package
14:05.09johill(according to the package search on debian.org)
14:05.29giskardjohill, ok..you know where i can find it?
14:05.34johillno
14:23.58SimonRavenif you'd read the whole factoid, you'd seen that apt-cache isn't the only thing mentioned in it...
14:24.03SimonRaven...
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14:25.15Bor_EdCorsac: I do... why?
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14:43.01CorsacBor_Ed: does it work at the moment ?
14:45.26Bor_Edwell I just copied ~100 pics from canon a300 so yes
14:45.33Corsacmpf
14:45.48Corsacwhat distro are you running ?
14:46.02Bor_Eddebian/ppc unstable
14:46.04Corsaccorsac@hidalgo: gphoto2 -P                                               [/tmp]
14:46.06Corsac*** glibc detected *** corrupted double-linked list: 0x0fcbdf08 ***
14:46.09Corsacok, so do I
14:47.52Bor_Edhave you dist-upgraded recently?
14:48.13Corsacyesterday i guess
14:48.21Bor_Edsame here
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15:40.26DelTreehi...
15:41.01Bor_Edlo...
15:42.19DelTreeI need some info about the installer...
15:42.26DelTreewhere does it mount the cd ?
15:42.53Bor_Edhmm, wild guess would be / or /source
15:43.20DelTreeI don't think it's /
15:44.24dpryoSomebody having trouble with the "pci-fan" on powermac g5 (7,3, 2ghz)?
15:44.38dpryousing 2.6.12
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15:45.11ZetI want a powermac g5 :(
15:45.26dpryoNo, you don't.. It's noisy ;P
15:46.46ZetI don't care
15:46.50dpryo:)
15:47.36Zetit looks good, it's fast and it's powerpc. so sexy...
15:48.17dpryoYes, It's a beast.
15:48.17dpryoWeighs a ton
15:48.17dpryonot to mention ... ;P
15:48.20ZetI have the impression that powermacs tend to weigh a lot
15:48.35ZetI have a powermac 9600 and I think it weighs more than my other computers combined
15:48.38dpryoIt's power in all it's forms :)
15:48.52dpryoBullet resistant and so forth ..
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16:42.55DelTreeI don't understand the installer at all...
16:43.01DelTreeis there any doc ?
16:43.06Bor_Edrm: cannot remove `debian/tmp/usr/include/obstack.h': Not a directory
16:43.06Bor_Edmake: *** [install-stamp] Error 1
16:43.16Bor_EdI don't understand the compile error at all
16:43.20Bor_Edravenbird: d-i
16:43.21ravenbirdd-i is the new installer for sarge (debian 3.1), at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ or see #debian-boot, but don't pester the d-i devs with unrelated questions, or see <debian-installer>
16:43.50Bor_Ed^^ site includes documentation iirc
16:45.15DelTreewon't be low-level enough, I guess...
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17:54.05Bor_Edhmm, I wonder why the build-dep for gcc-4.0 installs ppc64 libs to my ppc32 sys :o
17:54.30DelTree:)
17:54.36DelTreelooks like a bug... :)
17:54.48Bor_Edand I just want to make arm crosscompile setup :D
17:55.22Bor_Edoh well... started with dh_make puking on binutils... good ol' make worked just fine though
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18:00.39Bor_Edhmm, was it --enable-languages= ... or what to get only some of the gcc languages compiled?
18:01.45dpryoDo I need a special package for gcc to compile ppc64-arch?
18:01.56Bor_Ednope
18:02.23dpryoWeird.. I'm trying to compile 2.6.14, but make-kpkg insists on a ppc64-cc
18:02.43Bor_Edif you're compiling on ppc32, you'll need crosscompile setup afaik
18:03.02dpryo<PROTECTED>
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18:03.30Bor_Edhmm, do symlink of cc then on /usr/bin? :)
18:12.24dpryoI'm also having some troubles with alsa
18:12.41dpryoBut it looks like a corrupt module.
18:12.51dpryothe snd-emu10k1 won't load.
18:12.59Bor_Edthe sound driver on g5 was pretty much in development last time I heard of it
18:13.11dpryoYeah, the g5-audio works fine.
18:13.14dpryoActually.
18:13.24dpryoBut I want my audigy2 :)
18:13.29dpryoonboard audio sucks.
18:18.02Bor_Edconfigure: error: Building in the source directory is not supported in this release. See http://gcc.gnu.org/install/configure.html for more details.
18:18.05Bor_Edwhat the...
18:20.29Bor_Edbuggr that... read the thingy and now it's doing something :)
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18:40.39Curaltonoh, on a totally unrelated note, volutary preemt seems to run quite stable in 14.2
18:42.48Bor_Edworked already on .14
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19:01.34Bor_Edwee
19:02.37Bor_Edxorg has only been shipping with sid for what, close to 6 months? :)
19:03.47pahartikBor_Ed: damn, how does one switch between "mirror" and "spanning" modes?
19:04.15Bor_EdI'd guess couple of different config files will do
19:04.55pahartikBor_Ed: running "glxgears" switched to "mirror" mode automatically, but did not switch back
19:05.07Bor_Edmmmm
19:05.17pahartikBor_Ed: half of my desktop is now hidden
19:05.32Bor_Ednice
19:06.24pahartikBor_Ed: that did not happen with "xserver-xfree86" and ".*-dri-trunk"
19:06.55Bor_Edwell, afaik xorg has the other source for the driver
19:08.43pahartikBor_Ed: i am sure there is some way to switch while running... as "glxgears" just did that
19:09.09Bor_Edprolly... though I don't have dual screen setup here so can't tell
19:09.21Bor_Edbuggr, gcc compile failed :(
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19:23.17pahartikBor_Ed: i will just restart X server and try to force that damn "direct rendering" (or whatever that is...) off so it does not accidentally mess things up
19:23.57Bor_Edbetter off to comment out half of the xorg.conf then :)
19:41.53dpryohrmpf.. Every now and then my G5 shuts down..
19:42.09dpryoLike a emergency shutdown, just powers off.
19:42.25dpryosome what annoying..
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20:12.44dj-deathdoes someone have xorg6.9/7.0RC2 pkg for debian ?
20:12.51dj-deathor recent cvs ?
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20:29.37elSinuXhello
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20:32.08elSinuXI have some problems with udev, im working with an old ibook my /dev/ configuration dosent works, printer, usb scosi, sound etc
20:33.45elSinuXwhen starts the udev demon fails, because kernell, does any body knows how to fix it thks
20:34.25Curaltonwhat kernel do you use?
20:34.35Curaltonit needs at least a... 2.6.10 or so iirc
20:34.49Curaltonalso if you use debian/sid the udev package was broken recently
20:34.53elSinuXi have 2.6.8
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20:35.54beaufilsAny news for the Airport Extreme support under Linux ? Do I have a chance of making my Albook use wifi with the built-in card now ?
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20:37.46Curaltonbeaufils: if you feel a bit like a hacker you might at least get online via mol
20:37.56CuraltonelSinuX: upgrade the kernel then
20:38.33Curaltonbeaufils: a pciproxy (iirc) then allows the os x instance to use the card
20:40.52elSinuXThis question may looks stupid, but I dont know how to upgrade my kernel, the last time I did it by aptitude I loose my exsisting kernel and I had to reinstall all the system. could you help me ? thks very much
20:41.09beaufilsCuralton, any idea where to find explanations on how to do that ?
20:41.26ptitlouisyou also can try the bcm4306 driver : http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/
20:42.27Coutalbetter try the bcm driver. i think using osx is a mess, and every report with the bcm43xx driver would be helpful to that team
20:42.37Curalton"This driver does not work, yet"
20:43.19CuraltonelSinuX: you can set up a dual boot, that is have your old kernel still. but i guess you do not boot with yaboot, do you?
20:47.05elSinuXwell since my last /hdb format, I only have debian as OS, but I think it stills boots with yaboot
20:50.10Curaltonah, so it is a newworld ibook?
20:50.39Curaltoninstall the kernel and add an entry to /etc/yaboot.conf then, increase the timeout a bit and run ybin -v
20:55.26elSinuXactually I have the kernal image 2.6.8-16
20:56.38Curaltonkernel .8 is too old it seems
21:00.51elSinuXso the question is : how to install a new kernel??  (I know that this question could be very large, but if you know the adress of a good tutorial I will not keep losing your time)  :)
21:01.07elSinuXthks
21:02.15CoutalelSinuX: it depends a lot on what kind of a machine you have.
21:06.17elSinuXits an ibook G3 600 mhz 20 gb dvd/cd-wr
21:07.10Coutalso it's a new world machine, and i presume you're booting it with yaboot. do you have an /etc/yaboot.conf file?
21:07.35Coutalafter you download the package, it should put a new kernel file in /boot
21:08.10Coutalhave a look at /etc/yaboot.conf, create a new entry for your new kernel which should look almost the same as the one already there, just with a new name for the kernel
21:08.13Coutaland then you'd be all set
21:09.28Bor_Edhmm, every compile I try on gcc-somenumber bails out at gthr-posix.h:514: error: `mutex' undeclared (first use in this function)
21:09.32Bor_Edmake[2]: *** [libgcc/./unwind-dw2.o] Error 1
21:09.52Bor_Edor similar error... what's wrong? :o
21:10.10elSinuX<PROTECTED>
21:13.31CoutalelSinuX: are you running debian?
21:14.03elSinuXyes i'm runing debian ppc
21:14.33Coutalapt-get install linux-image-2.6.14-2-powerpc
21:16.15elSinuXok downloading
21:17.50dpryoHey, I want that package :)
21:18.18dpryo*runs ubuntu breezy*
21:18.52elSinuX... reading database, Unpacking linux image ...
21:18.58elSinuXdone
21:20.31elSinuXOK    /boot/ config-2.6.14-2-powrpc, system map, vmlinux and intrid
21:21.57elSinuXnow, what I have to change in yaboot.conf ?
21:22.20Bor_Edadd new entry for the vmlinux
21:23.03Bor_Edcopy/paste the current and change the ver numbers... should work
21:23.22elSinuXimage=/boot/vmlinux-2.6.14-2-powrpc  ???????
21:23.33Bor_Edand so on
21:24.05elSinuXwhat about the /boot/vmlinux.old?
21:24.45Bor_Edthat'll point to old kernel... which you should have on yaboot.conf with its real name anyway
21:25.08Coutalhey Bor_Ed, any luck?
21:25.43Bor_EdCoutal: still have the scsi disk on the 486... I think it'll be tomorrows hangover 'project' :D
21:31.35elSinuXyaboot.conf modified!!
21:31.50elSinuXshuld I restart?
21:32.10Bor_EdelSinuX: run sudo ybin -v before reboot
21:33.06elSinuXybin -v    ok done
21:33.12elSinuXno errors
21:33.30Bor_Ednow you can do init 6 or halt -r now
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21:46.18Coutalsay, where can i find decent kernel support?
21:46.36Coutalno channel here seems active enough
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21:47.15elSinuXWoooowww
21:47.22Coutalwelcome back
21:47.27Coutalare you running the new kernel now?
21:47.34Bor_EdelSinuX: I guess it worked?
21:47.38elSinuXhere I'm again, with the lastest kernell
21:48.06Bor_EdCoutal: try the mailing list
21:48.12elSinuXits exiting, well, x server works and also kde,
21:48.33elSinuXbut my usb mouse not
21:49.07Bor_Edusb mouse works even with good ol' 2.4 kernel... the device is /dev/input/mice
21:49.59Bor_Edor you could get mouse emulation to numpad with shift+ctrl+numlock
21:50.36elSinuX:(
21:51.11elSinuXno sound, but not krash sound server, no mouse usb, no devices
21:51.25elSinuX:(
21:51.30Bor_Edyou can setup the mouse in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 or xorg.conf depending on the ver youhave
21:51.55elSinuXok, with /dev/input/mice
21:56.29elSinuXI have XF86 input device "/dev/input/mice"   Protocol Imps/2
21:58.34pahartikelSinuX: "Protocol" should probably be "ImPS/2"
21:59.30elSinuXyep it is ImPS/2
22:00.19elSinuXshould I reinstall udev?
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22:01.57Bor_Edthe chars should be as pahartik mentioned and the mouse will work
22:04.28CoutalelSinuX: try reinstalling or at least upgrading udev
22:04.36Coutalapt-get update && apt-get install udev
22:06.50elSinuXupdate done, udev install says that I have the last version
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