| 00:08.26 | Q-FUNK | svenl: could you tell me, which package provides the new kernel build system that replaced kernel-image? |
| 00:08.50 | Q-FUNK | the one that produces linux-image ? |
| 00:26.49 | svenl | linux-2.6 |
| 00:49.48 | Q-FUNK | I mean just the scripts. linux-2.6 also seems to pull the kernel sources and some other stuff |
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| 09:19.24 | tom | i'd like to have wake-on-lan with my ibook g3, but when i'm putting it to sleep it says 'eth0: suspending, WakeOnLan disabled', is there anyway to enable wake on lan? |
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| 12:52.08 | Bor_Ed | hmm, could someone compile gcc 4.0 to arm-linux target for me? I don't seem to have enough HD to get it built :D |
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| 13:02.21 | SimonRaven | ppc to arm? |
| 13:06.11 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 13:06.17 | Bor_Ed | trying on another disk now... |
| 13:07.29 | SimonRaven | i thought that might be the reason ;) |
| 13:08.04 | Bor_Ed | there are ready kernels and initrds available but latest kernel port is 2.6.7 and latest images are for 2.4.18 :) |
| 13:08.18 | SimonRaven | ow |
| 13:08.39 | Bor_Ed | I have binutils here already... that didn't want to go to .deb but binary install worked ok |
| 13:12.15 | SimonRaven | ok. well, i won't do now, since i'm going to sleep soon, but i'm considering doing it |
| 13:12.46 | Bor_Ed | I'll try to my /usr disk... it has ~a gig free now |
| 13:13.24 | SimonRaven | see ya |
| 13:13.35 | Bor_Ed | have a good one |
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| 14:06.07 | candyban_ | Hi guys |
| 14:07.11 | candyban_ | Does anyone know if there are certain hds (not) supported by Apple G4? (I received this G4 without a hd and doesn't recognize an old disk I put in it) |
| 14:07.41 | candyban_ | I was wondering if the problem is with the hd itself or with the model/make which is not supported |
| 14:10.34 | Q-FUNK | the partitioning scheme |
| 14:11.29 | candyban_ | Q-FUNK: The hd is not recognized at all ... it says on IDE0 no devices attached |
| 14:11.46 | Q-FUNK | cable upside down? |
| 14:11.57 | Q-FUNK | master/slave jumpers at the wrong position? |
| 14:12.07 | candyban_ | But like I said, it can be related to the hd itself which is pretty old and has been laying around for about 2 years |
| 14:12.29 | candyban_ | Q-FUNK: but before I run off to the store to buy a 120 GB disk, I would like to know if it is supported :) |
| 14:12.44 | candyban_ | or if I have to buy some (expensive/overpriced) hd from some apple-store |
| 14:13.38 | Q-FUNK | mormal disk work just fine, but they must be partitioned into apple's own partition format |
| 14:13.39 | Bor_Ed | apple at least has used only quantums so that would be pretty safe bet |
| 14:14.56 | candyban_ | would cleaning the partition table "work"? (e.g. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdx bs=1024 count=512) |
| 14:15.25 | candyban_ | of does it need to be formatted before the G4 will recognize it? |
| 14:15.35 | Bor_Ed | mac-fdisk /dev/hda will |
| 14:15.48 | candyban_ | is this ppc only? |
| 14:15.54 | Bor_Ed | apple only |
| 14:16.48 | Bor_Ed | good ol' m68k macs have same partition table |
| 14:17.13 | candyban_ | Bor_Ed: ok ... thanks ... but G4 doesn't have limitations like old x86? (disks have to be < 32 GB and stuff) |
| 14:17.23 | Bor_Ed | not that I know of |
| 14:17.53 | candyban_ | Bor_Ed: it's my first non-x86 ... currently I'm writing on the G4 using the ubuntu live-cd |
| 14:18.07 | candyban_ | so I'm newer than new :) |
| 14:18.43 | Bor_Ed | ppc is indeed like the /topic says |
| 14:22.52 | candyban_ | Ok ... I'll get myself a proper hd then :) |
| 14:23.02 | candyban_ | Bor_Ed: thanks a lot |
| 14:23.05 | Bor_Ed | np |
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| 14:35.53 | tom | so is there any way to enable wake-on-lan on a ibook g3? |
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| 15:01.06 | aynjrz | Can anyone help - having a problem with Debian & monitor signal |
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| 15:42.38 | MaQui | hi; the only way to install sarge on an oldworld mac is using yaboot ? I can not use a set of floppy disks to lauch the instalation cause I have a blank hard disk. Any live cd 4 my g3 233 beige ? |
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| 15:45.20 | Madkiss | hi all; does somebody of you here know whether an adapter or something the like is available for current 15"- and 17"-pBooks to turn their Dual-Data-Link-DVI-Socket into two "normal" DVI-sockets? |
| 15:45.32 | Madkiss | What I want to do is to run my PowerBook with two external monitors |
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| 15:50.11 | eddyp | Madkiss: I have a connector that tuns the DVI of my 5,2 into SVGA connector... if that helps |
| 15:51.03 | Madkiss | uhm, uhm. |
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| 15:51.37 | Madkiss | Why would a SVGA-Connector help me? |
| 15:53.00 | DelTree | isn't it bootX on oldwold ? |
| 15:53.04 | DelTree | +r |
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| 16:06.39 | MaQui | how to reset the root password on mac os 10.2 ? |
| 16:07.50 | dpryo | sudo passwd |
| 16:08.50 | MaQui | yes; ok but i do not know what is the sudo and su password ;) |
| 16:09.06 | dpryo | the sudo-password is your password. |
| 16:09.10 | dpryo | Not the root-pass |
| 16:09.25 | MaQui | ammm |
| 16:09.32 | MaQui | one momen |
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| 16:13.21 | pahartik | MaQui: (AFAIK) password for "root" is not set by default, everyone in "admin" group can use "sudo" |
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| 16:18.14 | MaQui | sorry but this does not work as i supposed |
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| 16:21.30 | pahartik | MaQui: what do you want to do? "changing root password" does not sound useful by itself... |
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| 16:22.24 | MaQui | Basically I want to install Debian on g3 beige X-) |
| 16:22.38 | MaQui | I downloaded the yaboot X-) |
| 16:22.57 | MaQui | and says to me that i need 2 be root |
| 16:23.14 | MaQui | i am a i386 debian user |
| 16:23.23 | MaQui | ppc scene is new 4 me |
| 16:23.33 | pahartik | MaQui: what happens if you use "sudo id"? |
| 16:23.34 | MaQui | this machine went to me for free |
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| 16:24.52 | MaQui | sudo id works |
| 16:25.01 | MaQui | shows the id numbers ( 0 4 root ) |
| 16:25.10 | MaQui | i am chatting on a i386 :-) |
| 16:25.11 | kpanic | hi, I have a macmini and pcm audio works fine, but I can hear audio cds -- no entry in alsamixer or aumix, any hints? |
| 16:25.12 | pahartik | MaQui: very good |
| 16:25.34 | kpanic | s/can/can't/ |
| 16:26.09 | pahartik | MaQui: my advice: do not enable root account, do not set root password... using "sudo" works just fine instead, to get superuser privileges |
| 16:28.15 | aynjrz | kpanic: have a look at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-ppc-faq.xml - there's a section on playing audio CDs on macs |
| 16:29.02 | pahartik | dpryo: i seem to recall that user and password information of MacOS X 10.2 is in "NetInfo" database and BSD "passwd" provided with it does not know how to touch that... |
| 16:29.19 | kpanic | aynjrz, thanks |
| 16:30.01 | aynjrz | kpanic: no problem |
| 16:30.30 | pahartik | kpanic: use "gxine" to play audio CDs (for example)... |
| 16:31.33 | aynjrz | I'm having a problem with X and the frame buffer on my Mac mini with Etch. After X has started, if I switch from X to a text terminal, the monitor drops the signal. |
| 16:33.26 | kpanic | aynjrz, pahartik ok understood the 'problem' -- it's all ok thanks again :) |
| 16:33.58 | pahartik | aynjrz: try to toggle 'Option "UseFBDev"' on "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"? |
| 16:34.12 | MaQui | pahartik, the sudo fdisk says " unable to access ide or scsi drive " |
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| 16:36.21 | aynjrz | pahartik: should this be off or on? |
| 16:37.11 | pahartik | aynjrz: it depends, try to toggle... |
| 16:37.30 | aynjrz | pahartik: OK - I'm off to try - thanks. |
| 16:39.53 | pahartik | MaQui: that does not matter, you probably would not want "DOS partition table" anyway... but use "man fdisk" if you want to know how to use that |
| 16:42.42 | pahartik | MaQui: is that OldWorld workstation or do you have some other reason not to boot from Debian installer CD or DVD? |
| 16:43.20 | MaQui | is an oldworld :-( also i have a performa too :-) |
| 16:43.30 | MaQui | i preffer to do the instalation with floppyes |
| 16:44.55 | Corsac | hmh, external screen doesnt work with xorg 6.8.99 :( |
| 16:50.02 | pahartik | MaQui: i think that is possible, but easiest would probably be using BootX from traditional MacOS |
| 16:50.54 | MaQui | I have two hd on this machine the "hda" is with macos 10.2 and i want to install sarge on hdb |
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| 17:08.54 | MaQui | pahartik, this utility requires the /proc filesystem ... thisone has not got /proc :-? |
| 17:32.36 | Corsac | does someone use external monitor with a powerbook ? |
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| 17:33.56 | pahartik | MaQui: still talking about MacOS X 10.2? |
| 17:36.00 | dj-death | +e |
| 17:36.09 | dj-death | or a way to build them |
| 17:36.23 | dpryo | pahartik: Okay, I haven't touched OSX before Panther :) |
| 17:39.59 | pahartik | dpryo: that is when they moved to LDAP (or was it something else?) |
| 17:40.36 | dpryo | Some LDAP-workalike-thing... Apple Directory Services or something |
| 17:40.57 | dpryo | I like /etc/passwd :) |
| 17:41.02 | dpryo | Tends to work. |
| 17:42.35 | pahartik | dpryo: supposedly it is "application of LDAP" then... |
| 17:44.34 | dpryo | Woho, over six hours since my G5 powered off. |
| 17:44.37 | dpryo | New record. |
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| 17:45.35 | gigabytes | hi all |
| 17:46.13 | gigabytes | I have to ask a question about new powerbooks 5,8 |
| 17:46.43 | gigabytes | is there avalible a bootable d-i cd image with a kernel able to use the new IDE controller? |
| 17:47.31 | DelTree | gigabytes: no... |
| 17:47.45 | DelTree | gigabytes: I do have the same problem with a 5,9... |
| 17:48.35 | DelTree | gigabytes: all I managed to do is to start an ubuntu live using a trick with a usb stick... and that works but no IDE, no ethernet, .... |
| 17:48.35 | gigabytes | DelTree, so how can I install debian-ppc on my pb? |
| 17:48.52 | gigabytes | DelTree, |
| 17:48.59 | gigabytes | the 2.6.14 kernel solved the problem |
| 17:49.12 | DelTree | gigabytes: you'll have to do like I'll have to do myself... we'll have to wait... |
| 17:49.22 | DelTree | gigabytes: for 2.6.9 also ?? url ?? |
| 17:49.33 | gigabytes | wait a second |
| 17:49.35 | DelTree | s/2.6.9/5,9/ |
| 17:50.21 | gigabytes | http://www.andybotting.com/mediawiki/index.php/Linux_on_a_15%22_Powerbook_1.67Ghz |
| 17:50.39 | gigabytes | DelTree, 5,9 is the 17" model, isn't it? |
| 17:50.48 | DelTree | exactly... |
| 17:51.12 | gigabytes | the 5,8 is the 15" model |
| 17:51.36 | gigabytes | but the two models have exactly the same hardware |
| 17:51.43 | gigabytes | specs |
| 17:52.05 | gigabytes | so I think the new patch should work also on the you pb |
| 17:53.33 | DelTree | the patch I've seen only takes 5,8 into account... I wonder why... |
| 17:56.46 | DelTree | New PB chipset requires patch to kernel 2.6.14 PATCH PPC: Basic enablement for new 15" PowerBook <---- that'd mean 2.6.14 does NOT work... |
| 17:58.47 | gigabytes | DelTree, try to look into the 2.6.14 changelog |
| 17:59.01 | gigabytes | and following revisions |
| 18:02.42 | gigabytes | DelTree, yes |
| 18:02.55 | gigabytes | also 2.6.14 need patch |
| 18:04.16 | gigabytes | bye |
| 18:04.26 | Oryn | anyone run an imac (crt) |
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| 20:17.22 | Blackhold | hello |
| 20:17.36 | Blackhold | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:18.38 | Blackhold | and I don't have ybin |
| 20:19.10 | Bor_Ed | ybin should be in /usr/sbin/ or in /sbin/ |
| 20:21.30 | Blackhold | now I've founded the yabootconfig in /usr/sbin/ |
| 20:25.08 | Blackhold | jejeje |
| 20:25.18 | Blackhold | now how could I see the error? |
| 20:25.19 | Blackhold | :S |
| 20:25.29 | core | heheh |
| 20:25.39 | Blackhold | I paste the code? |
| 20:26.58 | Bor_Ed | it is sooo true |
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| 20:31.11 | Blackhold | well -> http://pastebin.ca/29715 |
| 20:33.10 | Blackhold | it's so strange |
| 20:33.18 | Blackhold | why it has not to work?! |
| 20:33.29 | Bor_Ed | I don't have newworld box so can't really help on the config |
| 20:33.30 | Blackhold | I haven't touched anything |
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| 20:35.02 | rIO | hi |
| 20:35.44 | Blackhold | what could be the problem if the script configuration is okay? |
| 20:35.54 | rIO | I'm trying to use the r300 drivers on my powerbook, and that doesn't exactly work :) -- anybody it working ? |
| 20:37.43 | Blackhold | please |
| 20:37.46 | Blackhold | give me some help |
| 20:38.08 | pahartik | rIO: "r300 drivers" as in ones provided by "xserver-xfree86" or "xserver-xorg"? |
| 20:38.18 | rIO | pahartik: xorg |
| 20:39.09 | rIO | pahartik: I'm using ubuntu ppc at the moment; compiled the drm and r300 from cvs |
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| 21:04.48 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: nice thing is that with "xserver-xorg" DPMS works with external monitor... it did not work with "xserver-xfree86" |
| 21:05.10 | Bor_Ed | nice indeed |
| 21:07.07 | Corsac | fakeroot, while creating message channels: No space left on device |
| 21:07.07 | Corsac | This may be due to a lack of SYSV IPC support. |
| 21:07.15 | Corsac | does somebody ever get this ? :/ |
| 21:08.19 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: drop telly to tv2 :D |
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| 21:10.14 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: what is up with that? |
| 21:11.40 | Bor_Ed | some hellsinks hip-hop 'underground' up again :D |
| 21:11.53 | Bor_Ed | aww, the program just did end |
| 21:13.13 | Bor_Ed | anyway, time to head to the bed... |
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