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| 00:00.24 | st3 | googling will give you a better result for sure |
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| 00:00.25 | backdoor | how? |
| 00:00.33 | mousex | is atbmousebus a kernel module in the standard 2.4 kernel that comes with stable? |
| 00:03.21 | pahartik | mousex: ADB is well supported but PowerBook G4 models for a while (and latest iBook G4 model) have not had ADB anymore |
| 00:05.01 | mousex | how can one find out? lspci? |
| 00:05.01 | mousex | lsmod? |
| 00:07.10 | pahartik | mousex: "lsadb" either finds devices or not |
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| 00:08.22 | backdoor | mouseX:http://mij.oltrelinux.com/ibook/step_step/ |
| 00:08.28 | backdoor | MouseX: http://mij.oltrelinux.com/ibook/step_step/ |
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| 00:21.40 | mousex | lsadb: command not found |
| 00:21.53 | mousex | what package is it a part of? |
| 00:22.15 | dj-death | usbutils |
| 00:22.25 | pahartik | mousex: "lsadb" |
| 00:22.36 | dj-death | or apt-file search lsusb |
| 00:26.04 | backdoor | no results . . . |
| 00:26.19 | backdoor | where's lsadb? apt-file search lsadb can't find it . . . |
| 00:27.46 | backdoor | Devices connected to the ADB-Bus: (PMU: 12) |
| 00:27.46 | backdoor | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.46 | backdoor | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- |
| 00:27.46 | backdoor | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:28.21 | backdoor | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:28.50 | pahartik | backdoor: flooding is not welcome |
| 00:31.52 | backdoor | pahartik, the command "trackpad" tells me I have no trackpad devices. And "mousemode /dev/adb" says "handler for addr 0 is -1" |
| 00:32.20 | backdoor | Should I use /dev/adb instead of /dev/input/mice in my XF86Config-4 file? |
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| 00:37.46 | mousex | what is adb? |
| 00:37.52 | Coutal | apple desktop bus |
| 00:38.01 | Q-FUNK | backdoor: I don't recall this being called #spam |
| 00:39.53 | mousex | Q-FUNK: :? |
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| 02:39.42 | Grackle | a |
| 02:39.46 | Grackle | a |
| 02:40.24 | Grackle | oops |
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| 03:44.27 | stazich | hi, can anyone tell me how i can check amount of ram on my imac without booting it into os? |
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| 03:47.40 | neiras | Hello - I have an oldworld powerpc (Performa 6400) and I would like to boot into the installer from a floppy. I've purchased new disks and tried several of them, but the old beast keeps spitting them out and booting MacOS instead of booting into the installer. Any ideas on what I might be doing wrong? |
| 03:48.11 | neiras | The drive is fine; I can boot perfectly well using an ancient potato disk |
| 03:48.22 | wcstok | mine did the same (oldworld g3) |
| 03:48.27 | wcstok | eventually just netbooted the bastard |
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| 03:48.58 | neiras | the old boot-image that worked was named "boot-floppy-hfs" |
| 03:49.14 | neiras | but there are no "hfs" boot floppies in current |
| 03:49.21 | SimonRaven | the woody one. the sarge one is boot.bin |
| 03:49.44 | wcstok | that's the only one I could ever get to boot..one thing you could try would be to go into the OF console and try boot fd: a couple times, sometimes it refuses to read the disk on the first try |
| 03:49.51 | neiras | I was using boot.img from http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/floppy/ |
| 03:49.55 | wcstok | ...and then it screws up later on |
| 03:50.08 | neiras | joy |
| 03:50.32 | neiras | I can't even get to OpenFirware until I manage to boot |
| 03:50.40 | wcstok | eh, why not |
| 03:51.11 | neiras | The 6400 had its default OF output set to the printer port, not screen, and I don't have a serial cable |
| 03:51.23 | neiras | need to boot and change the bootvars |
| 03:51.28 | SimonRaven | use the older sarge ones. the distributed ones won't boot because they don't have miboot in them |
| 03:51.38 | neiras | aha! |
| 03:51.51 | SimonRaven | go to people.debian.org/~luther/ to find bootable ones |
| 03:52.28 | neiras | wow, this guy's homedir is a treasure trove |
| 03:53.17 | SimonRaven | indeed |
| 03:53.45 | neiras | Wonder if I'll be able to get this thing booting from the hard drive this time around |
| 03:58.38 | neiras | Can anyone tell me what ofonlyboot.img does? |
| 04:01.32 | neiras | Ahh... A mac with a penguin inside. Sexy. |
| 04:02.39 | KB1FYR | It's a bootloader. |
| 04:03.00 | KB1FYR | For booting from open firmware (ie without macos installed). |
| 04:03.52 | KB1FYR | Oh, hurr, it's a boot disk. I should have googled. |
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| 05:51.31 | neiras | hmm - debian-installer says the tulip kernel module matches my hardware, loads it, then I get a "No such device" and told I can use firewire if I want... This system has no firewire |
| 05:57.21 | SimonRaven | o_O |
| 06:05.19 | neiras | man, this sucks. The bloody thing recognized the network under kernel 2.4 |
| 06:06.22 | neiras | I mean, saw the card |
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| 08:15.06 | SimonRaven | @open source hardware is <reply>http://bbrv.blogspot.com/2005/11/open-source-hardware.html |
| 08:15.08 | ravenbird | SimonRaven: okay |
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| 08:38.08 | Coutal | everybody is raving about the open source hardware post... but what's so good about it? |
| 08:38.32 | SimonRaven | open spec'ed h/w.... think about it |
| 08:39.21 | Coutal | well did marvell and via agree to that tho? i mean, do we have all the specs for all the via chips on the board? or just board schematics to extend and modify? |
| 08:39.34 | fo0bar | but hasn't the pegasos board been out for awhile now? |
| 08:39.46 | SimonRaven | yes |
| 08:40.18 | SimonRaven | Coutal: AFAIRI, it's the spec for board schematics, and some other bits |
| 08:40.44 | Coutal | extending boards is not so practical due to lack of fabrication capability anyway, unless you make a hefty amount, in which case trading with a manufacturer for their board schematics would make more sense. |
| 08:41.18 | Coutal | you need at least 1k to get good pricing afaik |
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| 10:12.19 | midg3t | must be about time for another BSP |
| 10:12.57 | SimonRaven | check your d-d-a ;p |
| 10:15.15 | midg3t | haha |
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| 13:48.17 | saintiss | hi all |
| 13:48.19 | saintiss | I just switched to Xorg from Xfree86 and now I can't seem to switch to tty[123456 |
| 13:48.21 | saintiss | ] anymore |
| 13:48.23 | saintiss | I just get a pink (which seems to be the equivalent for black) screen |
| 13:48.25 | saintiss | I can go back to tty7 though |
| 13:48.27 | saintiss | any ideas? |
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| 14:23.35 | Rawplayer | yo |
| 14:23.45 | Rawplayer | i have a g4 quicksilver 733 |
| 14:23.51 | Rawplayer | i'am compiling a new kernel |
| 14:23.57 | Rawplayer | but which processor should i choose? |
| 14:24.15 | Rawplayer | power4 and 970? |
| 14:25.46 | pahartik | Rawplayer: neither |
| 14:28.17 | pahartik | Rawplayer: if you want to optimize for PowerMacintosh G4, use "-mcpu=7400" |
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| 15:08.22 | Rawplayer | do i need to run something |
| 15:08.29 | Rawplayer | when i have modified yaboot.conf |
| 15:09.23 | pahartik | Rawplayer: "ybin -v" |
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| 15:44.21 | czorg | hi I ve a old G3 beige it's the first time i put linux on ma. will it work to put debian sarge (powerpc iso). or is there something i must know |
| 15:45.16 | Rawplayer | your password |
| 15:45.49 | wcstok | it'll work sure, but good luck booting |
| 15:46.09 | czorg | ok so it will work because it's seem to have to different G3 (one beige, another one bleu and white) |
| 15:46.31 | czorg | wcstok why good luck booting |
| 15:46.40 | wcstok | 'cause you'll need it |
| 15:46.59 | czorg | because it will be slow |
| 15:47.09 | wcstok | no |
| 15:47.17 | wcstok | because it's a gigantic pita |
| 15:48.35 | czorg | wcstok sorry but my english is poor what do you mean by "it's a gigantic pita" |
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| 15:51.25 | czorg | wcstok so will it work or not |
| 15:52.10 | wcstok | yes it will work |
| 15:52.19 | wcstok | but it will take some work.. |
| 15:54.02 | czorg | why |
| 15:55.23 | wcstok | just try it and stop asking silly questions |
| 15:55.27 | wcstok | or better, read about it |
| 15:57.00 | czorg | ok so it don't boot from the cdrom |
| 15:57.16 | wcstok | there's one drawback |
| 15:58.54 | SimonRaven | @pita |
| 15:58.55 | czorg | so i the best way is to use floppy |
| 15:58.56 | ravenbird | well, pita is pain in the ass, or what's usually for supper :) |
| 15:59.08 | SimonRaven | @install guide |
| 15:59.09 | ravenbird | for woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual ; sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual ; sid: /msg ravenbird iyhtays. |
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| 16:32.36 | czorg | just to be sure i must dowload debian-cd/3.1_r0a/powerpc/other/powerpc/floppy/ from a mirror and create all this floppy |
| 16:33.25 | czorg | because in the doc it say to use boot-floppy-hfs.img that i can find anywhere |
| 16:34.30 | czorg | sorry |
| 16:34.59 | czorg | to bother but the doc does'nt explain which floppy to use |
| 16:39.06 | SimonRaven | wrong doc, that's woody, you want 'stable' ^^^^^ |
| 16:41.32 | czorg | I don't think so http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ch05s01.html.en#id2520642 |
| 16:43.39 | SimonRaven | sarge doesn't use boot-floppy-hfs.img, doesn't even have one, it has boot.bin |
| 16:47.07 | czorg | ok thanks but what i've only found is boot.img, cd-drivers.img, net-drivers.img, ofonlyboot.img, root.img without nothing to explain which one to use |
| 16:47.38 | SimonRaven | keep reading the guide, it's there for that reason |
| 16:51.05 | czorg | sorry but I'm looking everywhere and can't find It, so if you know where it's explain i'm ready |
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| 17:55.35 | Rawplayer | is there any nice kernel howto for 2.6.x kernel? |
| 17:55.50 | Rawplayer | with the stuff that i should compile init and the stuff i shoeldnt compile into it |
| 17:55.59 | Rawplayer | i get kernel panics all the time |
| 17:58.49 | pahartik | Rawplayer: what kind of devices do you have on PCI bus? |
| 17:59.57 | Rawplayer | yes |
| 18:00.22 | Rawplayer | erm |
| 18:00.24 | Rawplayer | none |
| 18:00.39 | Rawplayer | its a powermac g4 quicksilver |
| 18:00.44 | Rawplayer | 733mhz with 1,2GB ram |
| 18:00.56 | Rawplayer | gonne reboot it again |
| 18:02.59 | Rawplayer | :\ |
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| 19:23.19 | Bor_Ed | hmm, I wonder if I'd manage to put the scsi disk in for a spin this weeked |
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| 20:35.30 | Coutal | say, i've installed quik and it doesn't seem to load at all. can you help me? |
| 20:37.21 | pahartik | Coutal: your device for "boot" at OpenFirmware console is not correct? |
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| 20:38.31 | Coutal | pahartik: worse than that, it's "contaminated" by XPostFacto. it goes "selected partition is not bootable" a few times, but then it proceeds to happily load macos. |
| 20:40.01 | Coutal | maybe i need to run XPostFacto |
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