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| 00:44.53 | TTimo | back |
| 00:45.01 | TTimo | I seem to have a problem with my initrd images |
| 00:45.10 | TTimo | older ( a few months ago ) kernels work fine |
| 00:45.25 | TTimo | but new ones I compile, it panics on boot trying to read from the initrd |
| 00:45.38 | TTimo | and effectively, file doesn't recognize the new ones like it does the old ones |
| 00:46.08 | TTimo | initrd.img-2.6.14: gzip compressed data, from Unix, max compression |
| 00:46.12 | Curalton | if you compile yourself anyhow - why not configure the kernel so that it doesnt need an initrd, i.e. have the rootfs compiled in? some paranoid encrypted rootfs setup? |
| 00:47.01 | TTimo | no not at all. official kernels use initrd by default so I'm more or less sticking to it |
| 00:47.12 | TTimo | actually official images seem to have exactly the same issue |
| 00:47.22 | TTimo | they just panic at boot |
| 00:47.44 | TTimo | my root fs is xfs, but I'm not sure how that plays |
| 00:47.58 | TTimo | I have both xfs and cramfs compiled straight into the kernel with no module anyway |
| 00:48.14 | TTimo | the initrd for my old kernels says initrd.img-2.6.13.2-tt: Linux Compressed ROM File System data, big endian size 1765376 version #2 sorted_dirs CRC 0x3bbb273b, edition 0, 882 blocks, 113 files |
| 00:48.26 | Curalton | xfs was big-endian i the first place iirc so should be fine on ppc |
| 00:48.50 | Curalton | some sid userland upgrade missing so the initrd util is outdated? |
| 00:49.14 | TTimo | well I keep it up to date though .. |
| 00:49.27 | TTimo | doesn't seem to lag behind on anything |
| 00:49.43 | Curalton | but... since i never use initrds unless where i run sarge with shipped kernels i can only guess :/ |
| 00:50.19 | TTimo | well I should probably try with no initrd see what happens |
| 00:52.12 | Curalton | hmm, the latest bleeding edge kernels need some very new udev as well (not even in sid last time i checked), maybe some initrd change went along with that |
| 00:53.14 | paulproteus | TTimo: I just compiled a 2.6.15-rc5 kernel without problems. |
| 00:54.30 | Curalton | never got used to debians make-kernelimage, still doing all this with my own scripts or purely manually on my ibook |
| 00:58.23 | SimonRaven | TTimo: there are issues with the new way initrds are made, with yaird. see BTS |
| 01:11.04 | Curalton | ah, well, sid :) |
| 01:11.42 | pahartik | Corsac: yes... |
| 01:31.48 | TTimo | looks like it only wants to be using yaird |
| 01:31.53 | TTimo | which appears to be broken |
| 01:32.50 | TTimo | if I remove yaird and install initramfs-tools it refuses to produce an initrd saying it can't find mkinitrd |
| 01:32.53 | TTimo | it's there though |
| 01:34.06 | SimonRaven | there's a trick to that... hmm |
| 01:42.00 | TTimo | ah well. I'll look at this some more another time |
| 01:42.02 | TTimo | thks |
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| 04:13.11 | MrPotter | hello, after spending about 6 hours failing to install fedora on my imac, I saw that debian was an option. is this less painful? |
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| 04:19.53 | Buddha| | MrPotter - I've never used an iMac, but installing Debian on my G4 iBook was completely painless. |
| 04:21.37 | paulproteus | The Ubuntu install on my iBook was similarly easy. |
| 04:26.20 | Buddha| | Ubuntu uses too much space |
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| 04:34.21 | DGHome- | where is a good place to download them? all the mirrors i am looking at do not have them |
| 04:34.26 | DGHome- | i am in up |
| 04:34.49 | MrPotter | where is a good place to download them? all the mirrors do not have it |
| 04:36.25 | MrPotter | is this what i need? |
| 04:36.27 | MrPotter | http://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-31r0a-powerpc-netinst.iso |
| 04:38.17 | paulproteus | That'd be fine. |
| 04:40.41 | MrPotter | 14 disks... that is amazing |
| 04:41.02 | MrPotter | the net install is the way to go, for sure |
| 04:41.14 | MrPotter | if you are on DSL anyway |
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| 04:58.28 | scrollkeeper | Hi. |
| 04:59.05 | paulproteus | Hi, scrollkeeper. |
| 04:59.15 | paulproteus | MrPotter: Or if you're at University. (-: |
| 05:00.47 | MrPotter | you might have a DS3 there ;-) |
| 05:06.46 | scrollkeeper | Is anybody from Norway? :) |
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| 05:07.30 | Dood_Seth | oooh anyone got rs6k experience ? |
| 05:09.27 | remote | i wish i could run A/UX |
| 05:09.51 | Dood_Seth | a/ux ? |
| 05:10.22 | remote | it's an old unix version made by apple but it really looks neat for building a tricky workstation :-) |
| 05:10.46 | Dood_Seth | ahhh apple unix .. wow .. that's ol skool |
| 05:11.33 | remote | is there anything that ressembles to an old apple windows manager |
| 05:12.13 | paulproteus | remote: There's a KDE window decoration set called ModSystem that looks like old Mac stuff. |
| 05:12.35 | remote | yeah i know .. ;) |
| 05:13.32 | scrollkeeper | remote do you mean Mac OS Classic? |
| 05:14.05 | Dood_Seth | anyone know of any gotchas when installing to RS/6000 ? |
| 05:14.06 | remote | i don't know, something that looks as cool as the first mac i used which only had a mouse one icon and a notepad |
| 05:14.32 | remote | is classic refering to non-osx os? |
| 05:14.43 | scrollkeeper | remote: yes |
| 05:14.53 | remote | ah, yes. |
| 05:14.57 | scrollkeeper | remote: 9.2.2 and older |
| 05:15.03 | remote | yup |
| 05:15.16 | remote | hey i need to know something you might know |
| 05:15.35 | remote | i need to connect an os 9 workstation using dhcp |
| 05:15.40 | remote | is it easy enough? |
| 05:15.47 | paulproteus | remote: It's not too hard. I've done it before. |
| 05:16.00 | paulproteus | You just go to the TCP/IP control panel and select DHCP. |
| 05:16.00 | remote | i didn't boot the sucker yet |
| 05:16.23 | remote | clever |
| 05:16.32 | scrollkeeper | remote: I don't remember, I can't boot OS 9 on my Mac :( But AFAIR it was easy. |
| 05:17.00 | remote | do you know how to compare a 7600/120 ppc to x86 ? |
| 05:17.50 | remote | i think it's about the age of a pentium 200mmx |
| 05:18.18 | scrollkeeper | It depends I guess. Some people ask me to compare my Mac (G4 Dual 2 x 1.25Ghz) to a x86 machine and my opinion is "it depends". |
| 05:18.43 | remote | ah. |
| 05:18.46 | remote | :) |
| 05:19.33 | scrollkeeper | Stuff like Photoshop runs faster and more stable than on Pentium IV with the same ammount of RAM |
| 05:20.07 | scrollkeeper | and you still are able to switch between applications running :) |
| 05:20.39 | scrollkeeper | But Firefox for instance runs slower |
| 05:21.30 | scrollkeeper | So it is generally hard to say if it's slower or faster or what PC can it be compared to. |
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| 05:23.12 | scrollkeeper | It depends also on you are using OS X native apps or carbonized (originally written for OS 9, but made able to run on OS X) |
| 05:23.53 | scrollkeeper | Photoshop 7 for example runs much faster on OS9 than on OSX, where it runs simply "slowly". :) |
| 05:24.40 | Dood_Seth | hmmm I guess RS/6000 stuff is not that popular |
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| 05:52.53 | scrollkeeper | damn kernel framebuffer :> |
| 05:55.18 | scrollkeeper | brb |
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| 13:40.28 | TTimo | baah I messed up my yaboot I can't boot into linux on my mac anymore |
| 13:40.54 | TTimo | are there bootable cds I could use to bootup and try to fix things ? |
| 13:41.16 | TTimo | on x86 I usually do that with knoppix but they don't seem to have a ppc version |
| 13:42.40 | pahartik | TTimo: Debian GNU/Linux installer CD or DVD console or Ubuntu live-CD or installer/live-DVD utilities |
| 13:45.17 | TTimo | k I'll do that |
| 13:53.06 | DJSpike | hello i've got difficulties to get tulip module working correctly on an oldworld macintosh after a fresh debian installation, i can't use apt or wget, but i can ping the DNS server |
| 13:55.10 | DJSpike | i get the same results with kernels 2.4 and 2.6.8 |
| 13:55.39 | DJSpike | modprobe tulip gives an error |
| 13:55.56 | DJSpike | unresolved dependencies |
| 13:56.29 | DJSpike | i tried to locate the module but it seems it's not present |
| 13:56.54 | DJSpike | but the kernel does recognize my NIC |
| 13:58.32 | DJSpike | during base-config, apt resolves the IP, but i always get a timeout error |
| 13:59.03 | DJSpike | i never had this problem with the same NIC on X86 |
| 14:00.27 | DJSpike | i tried another tulip based NIC, on another macintosh, and i get exactly the same problem too |
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| 14:02.09 | DJSpike | but these cards seem to work correctly on YDL 3 |
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| 14:03.27 | Bor_Ed | could be that it'll work with de4x5 |
| 14:04.26 | DJSpike | i've got an asante and a DEC21140 |
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| 14:06.45 | DJSpike | during the boot, there is a message "skipping unavailable tulip module" |
| 14:07.36 | DJSpike | is the de4x5 module built-in in the kernel ? |
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| 14:38.58 | mooch | hi |
| 14:39.08 | mooch | anyone using the airport extreme under linux ? |
| 14:44.45 | paulproteus | mooch: Currently trying it. |
| 14:45.08 | paulproteus | mooch: I personally can't get it working. I did create 2.6.15rc5 kernel-image and kernel-headers packages, if you want them. |
| 14:45.41 | paulproteus | I mean, it compiles and all, but I can't seem to actually send/receive data. |
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| 14:50.58 | mooch | paulproteus: hummm |
| 14:51.10 | mooch | paulproteus: i will try with my powerbook and see if i can make it work |
| 14:51.41 | paulproteus | Developers on #bcm-specs in irc.sipsolutions.net, if you care :) |
| 14:51.47 | mooch | but also have to check the ibook G4 hardware before i buy one AE card in case it is fscked up... |
| 14:53.34 | paulproteus | I'm running an iBook G4. |
| 14:53.45 | paulproteus | So are a few bcm43xx developers. |
| 14:53.54 | paulproteus | It's a safe bet that your card will work within a few days/weeks at most. |
| 14:59.08 | mooch | paulproteus: i have been suffering from sudden power lose (?) and Oops latelly |
| 14:59.12 | mooch | lately |
| 14:59.52 | mooch | paulproteus: i have been using a zd1211 card, and it seems the problems started happening with that usb stick... |
| 15:00.04 | mooch | before it was fine with a netgear MA111 |
| 15:00.19 | mooch | maybe i should go back to that one and test it for some time |
| 15:00.56 | mooch | also, has anyone tried the RT25XX chips? |
| 15:01.53 | mooch | I have a sityecom wl-113 with zd1211 and driver compiles but freezes |
| 15:01.53 | mooch | kernel (probably due to endian related problems) |
| 15:02.01 | mooch | from the debian-powerpc mailing list |
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| 18:01.15 | scrollkeeper | Hello. |
| 18:01.45 | Bor_Ed | evening |
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| 18:37.22 | scrollkeeper | BRB |
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| 20:34.17 | slushpupie | is there a backport of the OOo-2.0 packages for sarge anywhere? |
| 20:42.04 | witch | did anybody get autogb running on ppc? |
| 20:42.47 | Q-FUNK | slushpupie: yup, but no idea if there's any ppc build. _rene_ would know best. |
| 20:44.04 | slushpupie | Q-FUNK: someone on #debian pointed out that backports.org has it, so I can try to compile myself |
| 20:46.28 | nefertum | I've compiled a 2.6.14 kernel and the special functions keys doesnt work, what should I compile in the kernel in order to make them working? |
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| 20:51.26 | pahartik | nefertum: "modprobe evdev", "/etc/init.d/pbbuttonsd restart" |
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| 20:51.38 | nefertum | mmm |
| 20:51.45 | nefertum | i'will try |
| 20:52.03 | w-mute | Hi. Can anybody give me a small hint on how to compile the new Broadcom driver? In the Makefile, where should $KDIR point to? |
| 20:52.35 | nefertum | thanks pahartik !! |
| 20:52.37 | nefertum | :) |
| 20:52.50 | slushpupie | w-mute: you know that the driver is VERY unstable, right? |
| 20:53.15 | nefertum | has anybody tried the aiport extreme driver? |
| 20:53.32 | slushpupie | nefertum: I have. It can cause weird errors a lot |
| 20:53.36 | slushpupie | no wep yet |
| 20:53.36 | w-mute | Yes, I do know that. And it's not like I haven't compiled any kernel yet. I'm just new to the PPC architecture and such. |
| 20:53.44 | nefertum | aha... |
| 20:53.59 | nefertum | but can you send and receive data packets? |
| 20:54.08 | slushpupie | yes |
| 20:54.36 | slushpupie | w-mute: let me pull up the last howto on it |
| 20:54.37 | nefertum | then it works more or less |
| 20:54.50 | slushpupie | "more or less" yeah.. |
| 20:55.00 | w-mute | slushpupie: a URL would be OK, too. |
| 20:55.19 | slushpupie | http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-409194.html |
| 20:55.36 | slushpupie | if you are going to use the drivers, I really suggest signing up for the mailing list |
| 20:55.50 | slushpupie | things are changing very quickly with the driver |
| 20:56.03 | w-mute | slushpupie: awesome. Thanks a million. |
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| 21:02.56 | mooch | re all |
| 21:03.50 | mooch | anyone with a buffalo wli-u2-kg54-ai v3 ? |
| 21:05.39 | mooch | i have purchased a small set of wireless cards: a-link wl54usb fucks up my kernel, and the buffalo is recognised by the kernel as a keyboard (!!) |
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| 21:42.19 | ideas1 | i have a quick question? If theirs a exploit on intel debian does it still affect ppc debian? |
| 21:42.31 | ideas1 | an* |
| 21:42.47 | Bor_Ed | most probably not if it's kernel based |
| 21:43.01 | ideas1 | apache based? or mysql? |
| 21:43.18 | Bor_Ed | then those might be issues |
| 21:43.36 | ideas1 | even if its complied on a different platform? |
| 21:43.42 | Bor_Ed | only way to find out is to test with the rootkit |
| 21:43.55 | Bor_Ed | nope... requires platform compiles |
| 21:44.17 | ideas1 | Bor_Ed:Thanks? |
| 21:44.29 | Bor_Ed | np? |
| 21:44.31 | ideas1 | Bor_Ed:Thanks, i it the question mark on accident |
| 21:44.38 | Bor_Ed | :) |
| 21:44.40 | ideas1 | :) |
| 21:44.50 | Bor_Ed | anyway, test on the exploit to be sure |
| 21:45.00 | ideas1 | i just started taking my cs classes |
| 21:47.58 | pahartik | ideas1: define "theirs"? |
| 21:50.47 | mooch | pahartik: there is |
| 21:52.56 | pahartik | mooch: oh, that |
| 22:04.59 | ideas1 | there is sorry! |
| 22:05.11 | ideas1 | english is my second language |
| 22:05.30 | Bor_Ed | english doesn't count on my languages in the first place :) |
| 22:05.39 | ideas1 | lol |
| 22:08.20 | ideas1 | i always get your youre confused as well |
| 22:08.47 | ideas1 | :( |
| 22:15.02 | _mort_ | is there someone around with an AirportExtreme firmware? |
| 22:15.18 | _mort_ | both my driver from osx and from the install cd won't work |
| 22:17.58 | Corsac | _mort_: mine from dvd works |
| 22:19.34 | _mort_ | Corsac: would you please give it to me in some way? |
| 22:21.44 | _mort_ | please... |
| 22:22.08 | Corsac | huhu |
| 22:22.16 | _mort_ | huhu |
| 22:22.27 | Corsac | i can't right now, but extracting firmware from the dvd was a piece of cake |
| 22:23.04 | _mort_ | agreed, i used gunzip and pax but fwcutter wont recognise it |
| 22:23.52 | _mort_ | 2ba0c4de95344b00f2c7efad917490f5 |
| 22:24.12 | _mort_ | thats the md5 sum from the firmware from my tiger dvd |
| 22:24.24 | _mort_ | and it's not listed in the fwcutter.h |
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| 22:35.23 | remote | i have an old 7600/120 and the monitor seems to be dead, is there a special way to plug it? |
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| 22:35.53 | remote | i noticed it has a special wire additionaly to the power cord that I plugged in the corresponding socket behind the box |
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| 22:42.54 | nefertum | does anybody installed the softmac ? |
| 22:44.01 | remote | ah eh.. it works |
| 22:44.17 | Corsac | _mort_: |
| 22:44.19 | Corsac | b6f3d2437c40277c197f0afcf12208e9 AppleAirPort2 |
| 22:44.53 | _mort_ | Corsac: I guess we don't have the same dvds |
| 22:44.55 | nefertum | i'm trying to compile the airport extreme driver, and it asks me for the softmac moduke |
| 22:45.13 | _mort_ | nefertum: did you try the links in /topic? |
| 22:45.24 | Corsac | _mort_: tiger |
| 22:45.47 | _mort_ | Corsac: me too, but the disk was shipped only two weeks ago |
| 22:46.05 | Corsac | ho. |
| 22:46.31 | _mort_ | can't I lend yours? |
| 22:47.33 | Corsac | well, i could send it to you, but i don't think it's legal to do that. but wait |
| 22:47.40 | nefertum | what tool is 'hg' ¿? |
| 22:48.21 | Corsac | mercurial |
| 22:48.27 | Corsac | sudo apt-get install mercurial |
| 22:48.35 | nefertum | ah...sorry, and thanks |
| 22:49.33 | Corsac | :) |
| 22:51.26 | nefertum | mmm, it doesnt compile.. |
| 22:52.00 | Corsac | what kernel are you running ? |
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| 22:52.30 | nefertum | 2.6.15-rc5 |
| 22:52.43 | nefertum | i've just patched the 2.6.14 kernel and compiled it |
| 22:57.29 | nefertum | mm. i've tried with another "release" of the softmac module |
| 22:57.34 | nefertum | and now it compiles |
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| 22:57.52 | nefertum | but when I do insmod it tells me this: insmod: error inserting 'ieee80211softmac.ko': -1 Invalid module format |
| 22:59.03 | _mort_ | nefertum: I guess you don't have the wlan stack in your kernel |
| 22:59.12 | nefertum | mmm |
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| 22:59.43 | nefertum | i think i've compiled it... |
| 22:59.50 | nefertum | i'll see now... |
| 23:00.07 | nefertum | _mort_: ? ? <*> Generic IEEE 802.11 Networking Stack ? ? |
| 23:00.22 | _mort_ | nefertum: yup that's what I have |
| 23:01.03 | nefertum | then, i dont know whi it fails... |
| 23:01.49 | _mort_ | dmesg says nothing interesting? |
| 23:02.03 | nefertum | mmmm :) |
| 23:02.09 | nefertum | ieee80211softmac: version magic '2.6.15-rc5 gcc-4.0' should be '2.6.15-rc5 gcc-3.4' |
| 23:02.09 | _mort_ | ;-) |
| 23:02.18 | nefertum | i compiled the kernel with 3.4 :) |
| 23:02.24 | nefertum | and now i'm using 4.0 :) |
| 23:02.30 | nefertum | i love you _mort_ :P |
| 23:02.54 | _mort_ | thanks ;-) I'm still working on mine... |
| 23:03.01 | nefertum | lol xD |
| 23:03.54 | nefertum | well, now the module loads |
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| 23:10.40 | scrollkeeper | Good evening. |
| 23:11.02 | nefertum | _mort_: the driver has compiled, but when I write insmod .... it tells me this: insmod: error inserting 'bcm43xx.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module |
| 23:11.14 | nefertum | bcm43xx: Unknown symbol release_firmware |
| 23:11.14 | nefertum | bcm43xx: Unknown symbol request_firmware |
| 23:11.20 | nefertum | ...dmesg |
| 23:11.30 | Corsac | maybe your kernel doesnt support firmwares |
| 23:12.04 | nefertum | mmm |
| 23:13.46 | nefertum | in wich section from menuconfig should I enable it? |
| 23:22.29 | nefertum | buff |
| 23:22.39 | nefertum | the driver has been loaded :) |
| 23:25.43 | nefertum | however, iwlist eth2 scan says... eth2 Interface doesn't support scanning : No such device |
| 23:27.34 | nefertum | perhaps is because my MacOSX driver? |
| 23:37.55 | w-mute | nefertum: are you working on a Debian-based system? |
| 23:38.04 | nefertum | eah |
| 23:38.05 | nefertum | yeah |
| 23:38.12 | nefertum | but i've tried with another driver |
| 23:38.16 | nefertum | from the README |
| 23:38.20 | nefertum | and it works |
| 23:38.21 | nefertum | :) |
| 23:38.31 | nefertum | well, i can scan networks |
| 23:38.42 | w-mute | I was wondering if you got the same strange message about that /lib/modules/.../build directory that just wasn't where the Makefile expected it. |
| 23:38.44 | nefertum | however i dont own any wireless network at home :( |
| 23:39.02 | nefertum | mm, no, it wasnt that :), thanks!! |
| 23:39.43 | w-mute | Darn. I'm so wondering why I keep getting this problem but nobody else seems to complain. |
| 23:40.24 | nefertum | mmm, w-mute |
| 23:40.31 | nefertum | have you compiled the kernel? |
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| 23:40.37 | w-mute | Sure. |
| 23:40.42 | nefertum | ok ok |
| 23:40.48 | nefertum | and you have the Makefile there? |
| 23:40.52 | Dood_Seth | what is the boot command for 3.**a ? |
| 23:41.10 | w-mute | hey, wait. Mysteriously, the directory has appeared. |
| 23:41.13 | Dood_Seth | do I need a special cd for RS/6k ? |
| 23:41.51 | w-mute | Wow. It wasn't there with the 2.6.14-rc4 or whatever I tried first but with 2.6.15-rc5 it's there. |
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| 23:44.55 | _mort_ | Corsac, nefertum: I'm writing from my Couch now! got it finally working :) |
| 23:45.00 | Dood_Seth | hmmm ewwwkay |
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| 23:45.21 | nefertum | ue, are you now with the airport _mort_ ? |
| 23:45.35 | w-mute | _mort_: congrats. I'm hoping that I get there soon. (Not on your couch, that is.) |
| 23:45.36 | _mort_ | yep :D |
| 23:45.43 | nefertum | i dont have any wireless network to try iot |
| 23:45.45 | nefertum | it |
| 23:45.55 | _mort_ | w-mute: it's possible! and seems even stable |
| 23:45.58 | nefertum | _mort_: wich bitrate can you use |
| 23:46.00 | nefertum | 11? |
| 23:46.01 | _mort_ | through sleep |
| 23:46.11 | nefertum | 54??!!? |
| 23:46.15 | _mort_ | 54! |
| 23:46.18 | nefertum | ueeeeeeeeee |
| 23:46.19 | nefertum | :) |
| 23:46.34 | _mort_ | just loaded some mp3s from the other pc |
| 23:46.36 | nefertum | but you cannot use WEP encript no? |
| 23:46.51 | _mort_ | but wasn't true 54mb/s, maybe 30 |
| 23:47.09 | _mort_ | i don't know about wep... |
| 23:47.19 | nefertum | mmm, well, in wireless the network the real bitrate is always less than the theory one |
| 23:47.34 | nefertum | 30 is a good number, i like 30 :P |
| 23:48.08 | w-mute | nefertum: actually, this also applies to wired networks. |
| 23:48.31 | _mort_ | i'll do a real bandwidth test now |
| 23:48.48 | nefertum | mmm, perhaps, but in wired network the medium access control is different than in wireless net |
| 23:49.03 | nefertum | RTS CTS and ACK frames produces that... |
| 23:49.31 | nefertum | but well, the good new is that the driver seems to work :) |
| 23:51.21 | nefertum | oh my god, there is a open network near me... |
| 23:51.21 | nefertum | xD |
| 23:51.47 | w-mute | Oh, the joy :-) |
| 23:52.01 | witch | nefertum: isn't that normal? Here is a total open one, too |
| 23:52.16 | nefertum | no, i'live in a tiny city from spain |
| 23:52.23 | nefertum | there arent too many networks |
| 23:52.33 | nefertum | and i live in the city center... |
| 23:52.36 | nefertum | but no... |
| 23:52.58 | _mort_ | hmm iperf produces a slow report |
| 23:53.00 | witch | here we can see 4 wlans or five |
| 23:53.07 | _mort_ | Client connecting to moritz, TCP port 5001 |
| 23:53.07 | _mort_ | TCP window size: 16.0 KByte (default) |
| 23:53.07 | _mort_ | ------------------------------------------------------------ |
| 23:53.07 | _mort_ | [ 3] local 192.168.0.97 port 52695 connected with 192.168.0.12 port 5001 |
| 23:53.07 | _mort_ | [ 3] 0.0-10.0 sec 3.34 MBytes 2.79 Mbits/sec |
| 23:55.43 | nefertum | mm, i supone that the monitor mode doesnt work, no? :) |
| 23:56.13 | nefertum | mmm |
| 23:56.18 | nefertum | sorry, I supose... |
| 23:56.48 | w-mute | Ok, folks. I'll go to bed. Have a wireless day :-) |
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| 23:57.33 | _mort_ | seems like i removed kismet so i can't tell |
| 23:57.44 | _mort_ | (why did i do that?) |
| 23:57.53 | nefertum | mmm |
| 23:58.18 | nefertum | with ethereal appears the beacon frames... :) |