| 00:00.40 | _mort_ | ok there are some frames in ethereal. but how do i see a beacon frame? |
| 00:00.50 | nefertum | ? |
| 00:00.58 | nefertum | didnt they appear? |
| 00:01.09 | nefertum | if the AP makes beacon frames the should appear |
| 00:01.39 | _mort_ | eh, i have no idea what beacon frames are |
| 00:02.32 | nefertum | mmm, the are like Hello messages |
| 00:02.47 | nefertum | so the clients near the AP know it becaus those frames |
| 00:03.07 | nefertum | they are like "hello, i'm here, i'm using WEP encription and 54 Mbits/s |
| 00:03.09 | _mort_ | ah in which rate come they? |
| 00:03.14 | nefertum | something like that |
| 00:03.17 | nefertum | in wich rate? |
| 00:03.22 | nefertum | in the used rate, i supose |
| 00:04.39 | _mort_ | nope there comes nothing. |
| 00:05.06 | _mort_ | but i can tell you more about wep tomorrow in the office |
| 00:06.29 | nefertum | :) |
| 00:07.06 | nefertum | _mort_: what kind of job? |
| 00:07.25 | _mort_ | it apprenticeship |
| 00:07.46 | _mort_ | fixing windows clients and stuff |
| 00:07.50 | nefertum | ammm |
| 00:08.25 | _mort_ | you don't work? ;-) |
| 00:08.38 | nefertum | mmm xD |
| 00:08.59 | nefertum | i've with the final project of my univertsity career |
| 00:09.18 | nefertum | and i the admin and webmaster of "my" engeenier school |
| 00:09.26 | nefertum | and i the admin and webmaster of "my" engeenier school's web :) |
| 00:09.37 | nefertum | i hate that server... |
| 00:09.54 | nefertum | imagine...windows 2003 server, with ACCESS as "database" |
| 00:09.57 | _mort_ | heh cool you will be rich soon |
| 00:10.00 | nefertum | nooo |
| 00:10.01 | nefertum | :P |
| 00:10.02 | nefertum | xD |
| 00:10.23 | _mort_ | well, good night |
| 00:10.45 | nefertum | byee :) |
| 00:15.19 | scrollkeeper | bye |
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| 00:46.48 | Dood_Seth | what is the boot command to boot from CD for RS\6000 ? |
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| 01:22.20 | Dood_Seth | what is the boot command to boot from CD for RS\6000 ? |
| 01:23.49 | nefertum | Dood_Seth: I dont know what is rs/6000 |
| 01:23.59 | nefertum | but perhaps the answer is in google |
| 01:24.32 | Dood_Seth | nefertum: I've scoured google for days |
| 01:24.36 | Dood_Seth | and days |
| 01:24.41 | nefertum | i suposed.. |
| 01:25.05 | nefertum | rs/6000 is a mac machine? |
| 01:25.14 | Dood_Seth | RS\6000 = IBM 43p 64 bit machine that has a PPC chip |
| 01:25.31 | Dood_Seth | nefertum: the IBM P series servers |
| 01:25.40 | nefertum | aha |
| 01:25.50 | nefertum | and debian doesnt run with it, or what? |
| 01:26.52 | Dood_Seth | I can't get it too boot with the cd .. an other Linux distro boots .. but Debian needs a special command or something to boot |
| 01:27.25 | nefertum | ammm... |
| 01:27.36 | nefertum | i reboot, i will come now... |
| 01:27.39 | nefertum | 7quit |
| 01:27.40 | nefertum | ups |
| 01:27.41 | nefertum | xD |
| 01:30.04 | scrollkeeper | good night |
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| 03:46.37 | MrPotter | how do i make it boot to terminal instead of X? |
| 03:49.54 | MrPotter | runlevel is set to 2 in /etc/inittab but it still comes up in X |
| 03:56.52 | MrPotter | anyone? |
| 04:11.03 | pahartik | MrPotter: on Debian, runlevel does not have effect on X11 server |
| 04:11.37 | MrPotter | ok, but i just removed the S99gdm from the rc2.d and rebooted and it worked |
| 04:12.23 | MrPotter | i have a FreeBSD background and this whole runlevel thing is new to me |
| 04:16.20 | pahartik | MrPotter: yes, that is expected |
| 04:25.01 | MrPotter | how do i make a terminal screen (not X) blank out after a time? |
| 04:25.21 | MrPotter | it is an old imac and i cannot turn the screen off manually. |
| 04:37.11 | pahartik | MrPotter: "xset +dpms" |
| 04:37.34 | pahartik | MrPotter: oh, you specified "not X" |
| 04:38.34 | pahartik | MrPotter: there is this file called "/etc/console-tools/config", edit it as you see fit |
| 04:39.30 | MrPotter | cool, ill find it |
| 04:39.44 | pahartik | MrPotter: to activate changes, run "/etc/init.d/console-screen.sh" |
| 04:49.11 | MrPotter | didnt work |
| 04:57.51 | pahartik | MrPotter: it should... it uses "setterm" to tune screen blanking features |
| 04:58.57 | MrPotter | thanks for your help |
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| 07:10.49 | DJSpike | hello, whenever i try to do a netinstall on my powerpc (using debconf/priority=low) i get an error "unable to load some modules", and more accurately my NIC module, and some ide related modules |
| 07:13.15 | DJSpike | if i do the install the normal way, it goes fine, but the modules won't get installed correctly anyways |
| 07:13.57 | DJSpike | i tried kernels 2.4 or 2.6 and i get the same results |
| 07:14.23 | DJSpike | i tried on another macintosh, same results... |
| 07:21.40 | SimonRaven | ask in #debian-boot, seems it's an installer thing |
| 07:23.27 | DJSpike | thx i try it just now :) |
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| 09:16.21 | DJSpike | i solved my problem using etch installer beta 1 :D |
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| 14:20.25 | slushpupie | where can I find a j2sdk1.4 for ppc? |
| 14:20.46 | Bor_Ed | from ibm developerworks site |
| 14:21.04 | Bor_Ed | though grab the j2sdk5.0 instead, seems to work better |
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| 14:47.46 | nkist | How's the airport extreme driver? |
| 14:49.00 | Bor_Ed | currently running afaik |
| 14:49.12 | Bor_Ed | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:53.13 | slushpupie | the MOL hack works nice too, for those of us who have MOL up anyway |
| 15:08.51 | pahartik | slushpupie: "free-java-sdk" |
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| 16:34.51 | nefertum | have you already tried the airport driver? :) |
| 16:34.57 | Corsac | yes |
| 16:34.59 | Corsac | it works |
| 16:35.01 | Corsac | fine :) |
| 16:35.09 | Corsac | and sometimes i can use dhcp |
| 16:35.10 | nefertum | yeah, it seems to work |
| 16:35.13 | slushpupie | heh.. still a bit buggy. But getting there |
| 16:35.21 | nefertum | only somtimes Corsac ? |
| 16:35.36 | nefertum | i dont have any wireless network here... |
| 16:35.50 | nefertum | well, there are two networks near me |
| 16:36.00 | nefertum | but non of theme produces data packets |
| 16:36.06 | nefertum | so i dont know the IP's |
| 16:36.16 | nefertum | and any of them seem to own a dhcp server |
| 16:36.18 | nefertum | :( |
| 16:37.21 | slushpupie | if I get openoffice 2.0 debs built for ppc, is someone interested in hosting them? |
| 16:37.28 | slushpupie | (for Sarge, that is) |
| 16:38.04 | nefertum | arend they in sarge still? |
| 16:38.11 | slushpupie | not 2.0 |
| 16:38.15 | nefertum | amm... |
| 16:38.27 | nefertum | i use sid, so... |
| 16:38.42 | nefertum | but i supose there are made packets in the internet, no? |
| 16:38.51 | nefertum | i dont know, perhaps no... |
| 16:39.40 | slushpupie | I did a lot of searching for OOo2.0 sarge ppc packages.. best I can find is backports.org with i386 and source |
| 16:39.43 | slushpupie | so, Im building |
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| 16:43.14 | _rene_ | uh, does wnyone here use sids OOo and GNOME? (and has -gnome installed)? |
| 16:43.36 | nefertum | I use kde.,.. |
| 16:44.09 | nefertum | is there any channel about the airport driver? |
| 16:44.54 | slushpupie | nefertum: not that I know of, but I think they talk about it once and a while on #mol as well as here |
| 16:45.22 | nefertum | ah, ok slushpupie , tanks :) |
| 16:45.41 | slushpupie | nefertum: sign up for the mailing list, its pretty active |
| 16:45.57 | nefertum | yeah, i'm in it |
| 16:46.38 | nefertum | too many user's problem, and not so much new things about the driver :) |
| 16:47.22 | slushpupie | yeah, that happens. Best you can do is when you have a problem do a LOT of debugging on your own. |
| 16:47.41 | slushpupie | there are people on the list who are interested in the problems users have, but they need more info than "it dosnt work" |
| 16:47.46 | nefertum | well, i dont have any problem |
| 16:47.53 | _rene_ | if anyone does, please tell me the following: |
| 16:47.57 | nefertum | i'm only interesed in the future of the driver |
| 16:48.07 | slushpupie | nefertum: in what regards? |
| 16:48.21 | nefertum | stability or wep encription |
| 16:48.29 | _rene_ | start up, try to type something: does it crash? does it go away once you either do export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP="none" or delete libvclplug_gtk? |
| 16:48.40 | slushpupie | nefertum: both will happen in the future, yes :-) |
| 16:48.47 | nefertum | yeah :) |
| 16:49.12 | nefertum | I think, the people developing the driver have made a very good work in it |
| 16:49.31 | slushpupie | Right now there is a lot of code instability.. once they get some of the internal interfaces stabalized, stability will come quickly |
| 16:49.41 | nefertum | aha |
| 16:49.44 | nefertum | i hope |
| 16:49.52 | slushpupie | the whole SoftMac thing is important, and will eventully get stabalized |
| 16:50.06 | slushpupie | but that is also very new |
| 16:50.15 | nefertum | yeah, but the las softmac doesnt compile |
| 16:50.23 | slushpupie | exactly |
| 16:50.24 | nefertum | i needed to use a old release |
| 16:50.26 | nefertum | yeah |
| 16:50.43 | nefertum | but i'm happy about this |
| 16:50.53 | nefertum | it's a great progress |
| 16:50.59 | slushpupie | you have two very new projects here, and with one depending on the other, there is going to be a lot of unstability |
| 16:51.13 | nefertum | I supose... |
| 16:51.36 | nefertum | is there anything about the original driver version? |
| 16:51.41 | nefertum | the privative one? |
| 16:51.52 | nefertum | wich one runs better or something about that? |
| 16:52.04 | slushpupie | original driver? |
| 16:52.15 | slushpupie | there is no "original" driver exactly |
| 16:52.43 | slushpupie | there was a mips driver (no source, binary only) |
| 16:52.57 | slushpupie | I think that came via linksys |
| 16:53.19 | nefertum | I refer to the driver that uses macosx, for example |
| 16:53.50 | slushpupie | what about that driver? 100% incompatible with linux :-) |
| 16:54.25 | nefertum | yeah, but i say, when you extract the firmware from the the driver i say |
| 16:54.34 | nefertum | wich one is better for extract |
| 16:54.42 | slushpupie | oh, that I dont know |
| 16:55.06 | nefertum | aha, sorry, but english is not my language, so i'm slow :) |
| 16:56.18 | slushpupie | Ive been using the original driver from 10.4 without "problems" |
| 16:56.51 | nefertum | ah.. |
| 16:57.18 | nefertum | I first extract the firmware from my macosx system, and it made some problem while extracting |
| 16:57.35 | nefertum | I downloaded another from internet |
| 16:57.38 | slushpupie | at least nothing indicating the firmware is an issue |
| 16:57.38 | slushpupie | looks like there is a #bcm-specs on sipsolutions.net:6667 |
| 16:57.39 | nefertum | and worked good |
| 16:57.47 | nefertum | aha, thanks slushpupie |
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| 18:20.52 | SimonRaven | Q-FUNK: there was another typo, s/thought/taught/ but other than that it's good |
| 18:20.57 | SimonRaven | Q-FUNK: hi BTW |
| 18:21.04 | SimonRaven | hi everyone else too :) |
| 18:21.28 | SimonRaven | i need to lis... oh nm, i know |
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| 18:50.19 | rleigh | Hi folks. Is anyone using GRUB2 to boot Linux on powerpc yet? If so, I would be interested to know if it's up to replacing yaboot yet. Thanks. |
| 18:54.49 | _mort_ | rleigh: afaik grub works only on x86 architectures |
| 18:56.07 | slushpupie | _mort_: one of the goals of grub2 was to make it portable to other arcs |
| 18:56.33 | slushpupie | last time I looked the code was still unusable.. but its been a year or so |
| 18:56.37 | rleigh | _mort_: Version 2 has been ported to PowerPC; I'm understandably a little leery of trying it if it's not yet stable, though. |
| 18:57.33 | _mort_ | ah.. didn't know that, interesting |
| 18:58.08 | slushpupie | I really want to get rid of yaboot.. but I dont think grub2 is quite ready yet |
| 18:58.21 | slushpupie | rleigh: http://grub.enbug.org/CurrentStatus |
| 18:59.10 | slushpupie | looks like grub2 will boot linux on ppc |
| 18:59.13 | slushpupie | but not osx |
| 19:00.31 | slushpupie | otherwise it looks usable |
| 19:01.32 | rleigh | slushpupie: Thanks. It looks like it's made some progress. I may try it out--I can always use OpenFirmware to boot OS X should I need it. |
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| 19:37.09 | Bor_Ed | hmm, new or old world? |
| 19:39.10 | rleigh | Bor_Ed: new world (Mini). |
| 19:39.40 | Bor_Ed | gah... oh well, new bootloader instead of bootx was starting to sound too good anyway |
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| 19:42.55 | slushpupie | Bor_Ed: old world is on the todolist for grub2.. so maybe someday |
| 19:43.19 | Bor_Ed | maybe I'll get quik loading kernel without panic by then too |
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| 20:05.52 | chrisa | I am now intrigued enough to try out the driver in the topic |
| 20:08.24 | slushpupie | chrisa: its not very stable |
| 20:08.35 | slushpupie | chrisa: but it sorta works |
| 20:08.39 | chrisa | slushpupie: I wouldn't expect it to be |
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