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| 00:15.41 | nefertum | wich one is the irc server where is the channel about bcm43xx? |
| 00:32.03 | Curalton | do they have one? |
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| 05:01.27 | dondelelcaro | does anyone know further details about the issue with the february2005 alu powerbook soundcards? |
| 05:03.35 | dondelelcaro | (no sound at all, seems to be detected as an AWACS, which is totally wrong) |
| 05:03.49 | dondelelcaro | (this is with 2.6.14.3) |
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| 10:48.01 | nefertum | hi |
| 11:28.31 | nefertum | do you remember the irc server where is the bcm43xx channel? |
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| 13:29.43 | dpro | hi |
| 13:30.44 | dpro | anyone can reccomend a sip phone on debian ppc ? (linphone just doesn't work properly, kphone sounds like endian problems, twinkle is broken ...) |
| 13:33.20 | pahartik | dpro: i also tried "minisip" and "kphone" |
| 13:33.51 | pahartik | dpro: but "linphone" is best of them |
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| 13:34.17 | dpro | pahartik: and did any of those work for you ? linphone (the .deb) has already problems registering with our asterisk server :( |
| 13:34.24 | pahartik | dpro: it just does not like on-board audio hardware of Macintosh |
| 13:36.07 | pahartik | dpro: "linphone" works fine with "http://bluetooth-alsa.sourceforge.net/" driver and Bluetooth headset... |
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| 13:37.25 | w-mute | Hi. I'm still messing around with the BCM driver. In dmesg there is a line "Invalid PHY Revision 7". This sounds like a problem. Is it? |
| 13:37.53 | slushpupie | w-mute: it does sound like it, yes |
| 13:38.08 | pahartik | dpro: oh, that... i have only got direct connections without SIP proxy or SIP registrar working |
| 13:38.17 | dpro | pahartik: I can't even register ... -> undefined symbol: isc_net_pton |
| 13:38.22 | dpro | ouch |
| 13:38.45 | slushpupie | w-mute: does the driver do anything for you, or does it fail? |
| 13:39.34 | w-mute | slushpupie: it fails terribly (SIOCSIFFLAGS: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden) on "ifconfig eth1 up". |
| 13:39.40 | dpro | and kphone pretty much sounds like an endianess issue |
| 13:40.06 | dpro | w-mute: ifconfig -a # ? does that show eth1 ? |
| 13:40.10 | slushpupie | w-mute: I wonder if the driver dosnt know about your particular hardware revision |
| 13:40.41 | w-mute | dpro: yes, does. |
| 13:40.48 | slushpupie | w-mute: I would gather up the dmesg info, the info/error with ifconfig, and send it to the mailing list |
| 13:40.51 | dpro | w-mute: hmmmm |
| 13:41.16 | nefertum | do you remember the irc server where is the bcm43xx channel? |
| 13:41.25 | pahartik | dpro: "minisip" did not support direct connections at all, so i set up "siproxd" but did not get anywhere with through it (with any client, if i recall correctly) |
| 13:41.42 | w-mute | In dmesg, I also get a message that the firmware file couldn't be loaded. It is there, though. How is e.g. bcm43xx_microcode5.fw gonna be loaded BTW? |
| 13:42.21 | slushpupie | #bcm-specs on sipsolutions.net:6667 |
| 13:42.38 | pahartik | dpro: SIP clients (other than "linphone") either crash when trying to connect or have endian problems |
| 13:43.29 | dpro | pahartik: I noticed that ... but kphone looks good so far just the endian stuff nedds to be fixed ... |
| 13:45.29 | pahartik | dpro: it requires "KDE" libraries, which is also a problem :) |
| 13:46.09 | w-mute | I also have slight problem with AppleAirPort2: the file on my system is too old (lacks initval08 and microcode11) and the file I got from the Apple support site is "version unknown or wrong input file". |
| 13:46.51 | slushpupie | w-mute what release is the older version from? 10.4? 10.3? |
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| 13:48.09 | w-mute | slushpupie: now that is a good question. fwcutter says fwcutter knows your file: filename : AppleAirPort2 version : 3.90.34.0.p11 (400.17). I have no clue which MacOS version I'm running (because most of the time, I'm not running it at all). |
| 13:48.50 | w-mute | slush: I reboot my iBook into MacOS, have a look and report back to you, OK? How long are you going to be online? |
| 13:49.06 | slushpupie | most of the day.. might be busy, but Ill be here |
| 13:49.07 | Corsac | i have a 10.4 version |
| 13:49.09 | Corsac | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:49.22 | w-mute | slushpupie: thanks a million. brb. |
| 13:49.29 | slushpupie | w-mute: based on what Corsac says, you have 10.4 |
| 13:49.44 | Corsac | and i don't have microcode11 |
| 13:49.45 | slushpupie | Corsac: have you updated that recently? |
| 13:49.49 | Corsac | i have microcode2,4,5 |
| 13:49.57 | Corsac | slushpupie: this one if from my osx cd |
| 13:50.11 | Corsac | the one from my current install isnt recognized by fwcutter |
| 13:50.14 | slushpupie | ok, so thats the original driver |
| 13:50.26 | Corsac | yes |
| 13:50.35 | Corsac | (well, maybe 10.4.1 or .2) |
| 13:51.07 | slushpupie | last time I tried to get all this working the driver off my 10.4 disc worked for me |
| 13:51.23 | slushpupie | but not the one off the latest updated 10.3 |
| 13:58.56 | w-mute | slush: right. It's 10.4.3 |
| 13:59.12 | w-mute | And I just installed the newest update for the AirPort driver. |
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| 14:01.25 | w-mute | slushpupie: right. It's 10.4.3 And I just installed the newest update for the AirPort driver. |
| 14:02.56 | w-mute | slushpupie: and fwcutter doesn't work with the new driver file either :-( |
| 14:03.25 | slushpupie | w-mute: yeah, the newer ones have problems yet |
| 14:03.36 | slushpupie | find your install DVD and grab it off that |
| 14:04.28 | w-mute | slush: I got that file and this one seems to lack two resources (a microcode one and one initval). |
| 14:05.57 | pahartik | dpro: reason for some SIP clients not to work could be that they set sample rate to 8000 Hz but Macintosh audio hardware only provides 44100 Hz (and maybe 22050 Hz) |
| 14:07.40 | w-mute | slush: or have I? Maybe I already installed that driver file over. I'll try the DVD once more. Thanks for your insight. |
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| 16:26.55 | aro | hi. |
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| 17:50.50 | grxmrx | is there firefox 1.5 available for debian ppc (.deb package) somewhere? |
| 17:51.26 | _rene_ | not yet. obviously |
| 17:51.40 | _rene_ | because if they were they would be in sid and you wouldn't need to ask |
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| 17:58.10 | Corsac | 1.0.99+deerpark-alpha2-1: powerpc on experimental |
| 17:58.40 | Corsac | http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox_1.0.99+deerpark-alpha2-1_powerpc.deb |
| 18:00.31 | _rene_ | alpha2 |
| 18:00.31 | _rene_ | wow |
| 18:00.33 | _rene_ | you know what alpha means? |
| 18:00.45 | _rene_ | the 1.5 ff in sid failed to build for powerpc. so just wait... |
| 18:00.54 | _rene_ | will be fixed when it will be fixed... |
| 18:01.14 | SimonRaven | _rene_: buildd.debian.net to see the buildd logs? |
| 18:01.23 | Corsac | i'm fine with 1.0.7 |
| 18:01.26 | _rene_ | exactly |
| 18:01.34 | SimonRaven | thanks |
| 18:01.52 | _rene_ | http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?&pkg=firefox&ver=1.4.99%2B1.5rc3.dfsg-2&arch=powerpc&stamp=1133314979&file=log&as=raw |
| 18:01.55 | Corsac | i'm waiting for gphoto2 to work :( |
| 18:02.04 | SimonRaven | s/net/org/ |
| 18:02.45 | _rene_ | no. org |
| 18:02.55 | _rene_ | build.net is external shit |
| 18:02.58 | SimonRaven | i just got a blank page at .net |
| 18:03.02 | _rene_ | buildd.debian.org is official build logs |
| 18:03.50 | _rene_ | anything debian.net is no official website |
| 18:04.02 | _rene_ | almost some of them are semi-official |
| 18:04.49 | SimonRaven | --disable-ldap? |
| 18:05.27 | SimonRaven | :/ |
| 18:06.02 | _rene_ | this was always the case... |
| 18:06.20 | SimonRaven | look at all those Makefiles... |
| 18:06.30 | _rene_ | and that ldap stuff doesn't make sense for a pure browser anyway |
| 18:07.00 | _rene_ | and if you need to build something against mozilla ldap |
| 18:07.03 | _rene_ | use mozilla-dev |
| 18:07.27 | _rene_ | even mozilla itself recommends *against* buidling anything against firefox |
| 18:07.39 | SimonRaven | undefined reference to `memcpy@@GLIBC_2.0' |
| 18:07.51 | SimonRaven | ok |
| 18:08.03 | SimonRaven | it's crap anyway, it doesn't have write support ;) |
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| 19:27.38 | Bor_Ed | anyone want mission impossible? :) |
| 19:28.32 | SimonRaven | o_O |
| 19:28.33 | Bor_Ed | http://www.king.igs.net/~billnacu/wings/programming.html <<-- cross dev tools packaged as binary in nice single .deb file :) |
| 19:28.38 | SimonRaven | eh? |
| 19:28.43 | SimonRaven | oh |
| 19:28.44 | Bor_Ed | geebus, been trying to get the environment up for a week :D |
| 19:31.48 | SimonRaven | neat. i have no interest, but looks neat |
| 19:32.11 | Bor_Ed | aww, I was hoping you would've taken the challenge :D |
| 19:32.28 | Bor_Ed | oh well, off to continue the desperate trials... or not |
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| 19:32.49 | SimonRaven | well, would have to be several debs, that's too much to stick into one single deb |
| 19:34.02 | Bor_Ed | you have a point there... though only making that compiler to work and build buggr target cpu binaries is way too much for me... I get it to compile the C to asm but not to object nor binary :/ pukes to linker for some reason |
| 19:34.30 | Bor_Ed | and ofcourse gcc has the cpu on targets but drops 'target not supported' when compiling |
| 19:34.51 | Bor_Ed | *** Configuration w65-none not supported |
| 19:34.51 | Bor_Ed | make: *** [configure-gcc] Error 1 |
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| 20:01.35 | SimonRaven | building a toolchain isn't easy |
| 20:02.10 | Bor_Ed | nope, and it doesn't make any easier to build a hacked toolchain |
| 20:02.12 | SimonRaven | i think i've only managed once - and that was a long time ago |
| 20:02.24 | SimonRaven | back when gcc 3 didn't exist |
| 20:02.47 | Bor_Ed | the current toolchain-source (which I need to get linux on the pda) pukes for several bugs... |
| 20:03.19 | SimonRaven | what i'd suggest is build the package yourself - from its parts. i explain |
| 20:04.24 | SimonRaven | hrm |
| 20:04.29 | SimonRaven | heh :) |
| 20:04.41 | SimonRaven | chic~ken and egg |
| 20:05.04 | Bor_Ed | riiiight.... I can get most of the binaries done but the linker thingy refuses to compile with or without hacks to support the patched cpu |
| 20:06.05 | SimonRaven | you need to dig deep into it to see where it is. i suspect Makefile stupidity. i always suspect Makefile stupidity first :P |
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| 20:06.50 | Bor_Ed | I'd suspect x86linux files all around the source tarballs as well as quick&dirty hack which 'might' work on some setups |
| 20:07.37 | Bor_Ed | oh well, if/when I get some idea of the spaghetti code, I'll rip it to its minimum and build .src.deb to annoy the tool devs :) |
| 20:07.39 | SimonRaven | probably. i wouldn't be surprised. binaries here and there |
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| 20:08.28 | Bor_Ed | though that's only project for a C compiler on the cpu arch... :/ just got to love special comp gear :D |
| 20:08.36 | SimonRaven | :D |
| 20:08.47 | SimonRaven | it's a challenge |
| 20:09.22 | Bor_Ed | there is ~$2800 usd compiler available from chip maker but that's dos based and closed source, not really healthy for open hardware/software platform |
| 20:11.36 | SimonRaven | mmm, no :) |
| 20:11.55 | Bor_Ed | well, there's always macro assemblers :D |
| 20:12.24 | Bor_Ed | a bit hard though for old coder who would like to have it easy |
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| 20:19.34 | SimonRaven | you're over my head now |
| 20:21.43 | Bor_Ed | I still recall basics of the cpu arch assembly language, I'd just prefer C or other compiled language for it (which the link I gave earlier would give if it'd work) |
| 20:23.12 | SimonRaven | oh ok |
| 20:23.50 | Bor_Ed | and needless to say that there are several free assemblers available... even gnu binutils works :/ |
| 20:24.14 | SimonRaven | yeh |
| 20:27.29 | assassin_ | Oh lovely. As soon as my iBook gets stolen they release the spec... thank you jesus |
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| 20:28.28 | Curalton | ow, that sucks assassin_. was your ~ at least encrypted? |
| 20:29.03 | assassin_ | yeah.... on the debian partition at least |
| 20:29.18 | assassin_ | I use OS X for games |
| 20:29.32 | Curalton | oh no! they will abuse your savegames! |
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| 20:30.02 | Curalton | or, more seriously the CDkey. well, not such a big loss compared to a complete notebook |
| 20:30.35 | Curalton | ah, ut. heh, i wonder if EOIC would cooperate |
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| 22:06.27 | mooch | anyone with a firmware for the airport extreme card? |
| 22:06.42 | mooch | i dont have macosx installed, so i dunno where to get it from... |
| 22:08.02 | SimonRaven | /topic |
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| 22:10.06 | mooch | do i need all the .sys files or just one? |
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| 23:01.09 | mooch | great |
| 23:01.12 | mooch | got it working... |
| 23:01.33 | mooch | anyone with the broadcom driver? any stats? i get 500KB/s transmitting at 54g |
| 23:01.53 | dondelelcaro | oh wow. it actually works? |
| 23:02.24 | Corsac | dondelelcaro: it works |
| 23:02.33 | dondelelcaro | cool. |
| 23:02.35 | Corsac | i don't have trafic stats, and won't do it tonight |
| 23:02.43 | Corsac | but tomorrow i'll try |
| 23:02.45 | dondelelcaro | does anyone know further details about the issue with the february2005 alu powerbook soundcards? |
| 23:02.50 | dondelelcaro | (no sound at all, seems to be detected as an AWACS, which is totally wrong) |
| 23:02.52 | Corsac | duh ? |
| 23:03.02 | Corsac | i have a june2005 alu pb |
| 23:03.11 | Corsac | everything's working |
| 23:03.15 | dondelelcaro | hrm... |
| 23:03.16 | Corsac | well, soundcard i mean |
| 23:05.39 | dondelelcaro | yeah, I've got the proper driver, and am running 2.6.14.3, so it should (in theory) be working... |
| 23:06.12 | mooch | dondelelcaro: you mean wireless? |
| 23:06.18 | mooch | it works alright |
| 23:06.22 | mooch | is a 12 or 15W |
| 23:06.29 | mooch | s/W/"/ |
| 23:06.31 | dondelelcaro | 17 |
| 23:06.34 | dondelelcaro | actually... |
| 23:06.42 | Corsac | 15" here |
| 23:06.47 | mooch | 17? uau |
| 23:06.50 | mooch | those are big ;) |
| 23:06.52 | Corsac | weird, soundcard isnt in lspci |
| 23:07.02 | dondelelcaro | (campus bookstore had a deal on them for 1.5) |
| 23:07.12 | mooch | i have a 15 and i think i could change it for a 12" except for the nvidiashit they have |
| 23:07.32 | Corsac | i'm waiting for xorg 7 for 3D accel :) |
| 23:07.42 | dondelelcaro | heh. I've had the original 15" since it came out; the smaller ones are too tiny for me |
| 23:08.42 | dondelelcaro | Corsac: anyway, when you run alsamixer or similar, what does the card show up as? |
| 23:08.58 | Corsac | PowerMac Snapper |
| 23:09.25 | dondelelcaro | hrm... yeah, here it shows up as AWACS, which I know is totally wrong. |
| 23:09.47 | dondelelcaro | probably should be snapper too |
| 23:10.33 | Corsac | snd_powermac 56736 2 |
| 23:12.24 | dondelelcaro | CONFIG_SND_POWERMAC=y ... |
| 23:14.06 | Corsac | weird |
| 23:14.38 | dondelelcaro | heh; yeah, I wouldn't be asking if it was that trivial. ;-) |
| 23:23.38 | mooch | 'nite |
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