| 00:16.56 | johill | bah. anyone got openoffice.org2 to work on debian? it's missing libjvmfwk.so.3 but the only package that contains such a file is openoffice.org-core which conflicts with oo2 |
| 00:20.04 | johill | never mind |
| 00:20.23 | SimonRaven | :) |
| 00:20.34 | johill | forgot about the package name thing |
| 00:20.44 | johill | it's just openoffice.org again :) |
| 00:20.44 | SimonRaven | *nods* |
| 00:20.48 | SimonRaven | yeh |
| 00:38.40 | _rene_ | not to mention that openoffice.org2 is/was 1.9.125 which is 2.0beta2 |
| 00:38.57 | _rene_ | but still; libjvmfwk.so.3 should've been in there |
| 00:39.12 | _rene_ | but those packages are obsolete anyway, so.. :) |
| 00:39.29 | johill | yeah. I've had it installed since those were state of the art and never looked at it till now ;) |
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| 00:41.17 | _rene_ | then you should have had openoffice.org installed too in which case you'd have gotten 2.0.0 automatically |
| 00:41.32 | _rene_ | that was the whole point of openoffice.org2, to have it parallel installable... |
| 00:44.33 | johill | yeah. at the time I needed the latest stuff, and then no oo.o at all for a long time |
| 00:45.52 | _rene_ | then you still could have has it parallel installed... |
| 00:46.10 | johill | dunno. maybe I had never installed the real oo.o before |
| 00:47.25 | johill | eh |
| 00:47.28 | johill | javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment! |
| 00:47.38 | johill | when it just spent the last 30 seconds executing 'java'? |
| 00:48.36 | _rene_ | then you did something wrong |
| 00:48.47 | _rene_ | just apt-get installing openoffice.org should get you java-gcj-compat |
| 00:48.57 | _rene_ | which provides a needed java runtime |
| 00:49.11 | _rene_ | your problem looks like it either didn't find one or did try kaffe |
| 00:49.19 | johill | yeah probably |
| 00:49.23 | johill | and I don't have java-gcj-compat |
| 00:49.33 | johill | probably because I have the ibm java installed |
| 00:49.48 | _rene_ | yeah, maybe |
| 00:50.05 | _rene_ | it then finds /usr/bin/java I guess and tries that |
| 00:50.10 | _rene_ | which might be kaffe in your case |
| 00:50.25 | johill | it's ibm's |
| 00:50.40 | _rene_ | oh? no idea then. ibms jdk worked once. |
| 00:50.51 | _rene_ | but I don't use that non-free crap anyway, so... |
| 00:52.41 | _rene_ | but apparently javaldx doesn't grok it |
| 00:52.59 | _rene_ | 2.0.1 will have some JDK-related fixes, though |
| 00:53.08 | johill | yeah looks like it. works much better with the gcj-compat |
| 00:53.12 | _rene_ | but I won't care about non-gcj-people, sorry |
| 00:53.28 | _rene_ | as I don't care about non-free shit as long as the free stuff works |
| 00:54.16 | johill | yet oo.o could actually tell you that |
| 00:54.29 | johill | anyway. thanks for the help |
| 00:54.38 | _rene_ | jup. well, as said, I used the ibm jdk with it once, so... |
| 00:55.42 | _rene_ | but that was openoffice.org2 times... |
| 00:56.28 | johill | oh well. the only java applet I really ever use doesn't work with either ibm's or gcj |
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| 09:41.26 | Madkiss | hi all |
| 09:42.04 | Madkiss | if I do "df" in Mac OS and I see that / is on "disk0s5", what does that mean? Shouldn't it say "disk0s5p1" or something the like? |
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| 09:46.10 | SimonRaven | #macosx that -> way |
| 09:46.42 | Madkiss | err, I am asking because I am trying to do http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2005/11/msg00684.html |
| 09:47.45 | dondelelcaro | mooch: hey, were you able to get the wireless driver to work? |
| 09:48.10 | Madkiss | # |
| 09:48.12 | Madkiss | err. |
| 09:49.24 | dondelelcaro | Madkiss: as far as the sound, that box has a totally different soundcard; it uses the AOABase (iirc) card, which doesn't yet have support in the kernel. |
| 09:49.37 | dondelelcaro | the touchpad should work with appletouch |
| 09:50.12 | Madkiss | erm. |
| 09:50.16 | Madkiss | aeh. |
| 09:50.16 | Madkiss | erm. |
| 09:50.19 | Madkiss | No, no. |
| 09:50.37 | Madkiss | dondelelcaro: I try to install Debian here. And the link I posted seems the only way to do it. |
| 09:51.00 | Madkiss | dondelelcaro: Now the Problem I have is that if I do "df" here, I only see "disk0s5", and not "disk0s5p3" or something the like. |
| 09:52.13 | dondelelcaro | Madkiss: even with the etch installer? |
| 09:52.35 | Madkiss | What the hell does the etch-installer have to do with this? The etch-installer does still not work, that's right |
| 09:53.13 | Madkiss | wait, i'm gonna try something |
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| 10:06.55 | azazelo | hi everybody |
| 10:08.44 | azazelo | I'm having serious "issues" with my debian/sid and kde for a long time. Whenever i insert a dvd or cd in my ibook under kde kded crashes |
| 10:09.11 | azazelo | and yet didn't fid a solution |
| 10:09.24 | azazelo | does anyone have a clue about this? |
| 10:17.27 | SimonRaven | #debian-kde |
| 10:17.42 | azazelo | SimonRaven: ok, thanks |
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| 10:46.02 | Madkiss | I think I am going to remaster the Sarge-Boot-CD so that people can use it with 2.4 for their PowerBook5,8/5,9 |
| 11:00.55 | Q-FUNK | Madkiss: 2.4 is also available on the cd |
| 11:01.04 | Q-FUNK | Madkiss: it's just a different boot option |
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| 11:54.23 | Madkiss | erm, erm, I created an ISO-Image with the following options: |
| 11:54.30 | Madkiss | mkisofs -o debian-31r0a-powerpc-netinst-custom.iso -prep-boot install/powerpc/vmlinuz-prep.initrd --chrp-boot --netatalk -hfs -probe -part -no-desktop -hfs-bless install -hfs-volid Debian/PowerPC_Sarge sarge |
| 11:54.44 | Madkiss | yet the PowerBook does not boot it. What's missing? |
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| 12:00.54 | drwarp | hi all... |
| 12:07.51 | drwarp | I have some problems with make-kpkg and --initrd option. These trouble probably depends on "y" attachment at the end of version (ex. 2.6.14y). There is a way to prevent that attachment? :O |
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| 12:30.45 | Madkiss | Great god, why does a Debian CD I created with mkisofs -r -J -o debian-31r0a-powerpc-netinst-custom.iso -netatalk -hfs -probe -map sarge/install/hfs.map -part -no-desktop -hfs-bless ./install -hfs-volid Debian/PowerPC_Sarge sarge not boot? |
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| 14:11.22 | Madkiss | Err, there is really nobody who is in here who ever created a bootable Debian PowerPC-CD? |
| 14:15.20 | _rene_ | diddn't Ganneff? ask him? |
| 14:15.33 | _rene_ | .oO ( LT ) |
| 14:16.07 | witch | Madkiss: a live CD? |
| 14:18.57 | Madkiss | witch: no |
| 14:19.11 | Madkiss | I just want to remaster the sarge cd, so that I can use it to install with 2.4 on my pBok |
| 14:19.17 | Madkiss | mkisofs -r -J -o debian-31r0a-powerpc-netinst-custom.iso -netatalk -hfs -probe -map sarge/install/hfs.map -part -no-desktop -hfs-bless ./install -hfs-volid Debian/PowerPC_Sarge sarge |
| 14:19.21 | Madkiss | Is the command I used |
| 14:19.28 | Madkiss | but the box refuss to boot for whatever reason from the CD |
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| 14:28.43 | witch | Ist auf der sarge netinst cd für PPC kein 2.4er kernel? |
| 14:30.39 | Madkiss | Doch, aber das bringt mir nichts, weil die yaboot.conf da kaputt ist. |
| 14:30.48 | Madkiss | err, wrong channel. |
| 14:37.29 | Corsac | Madkiss: ! |
| 14:37.56 | Madkiss | Corsac: yes? |
| 14:38.25 | Madkiss | Corsac: doyou know a solution? |
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| 14:38.58 | xlobeznox | is java plugin in ppc usable now? |
| 14:39.00 | Corsac | hmh, i didn't read, I was like that because I can remember that you were huggie's applicant manager |
| 14:39.34 | Corsac | (and no, i don't know how to write a bootable cd for ppc) |
| 14:41.11 | pahartik | Corsac: damn, harddisk of my iBook G4 passed out |
| 14:41.15 | witch | Madkiss: with kernel 2.6 ist seems to work. We installed the mac mini with it |
| 14:41.23 | Madkiss | err? |
| 14:41.36 | Madkiss | What exactly does a Mac Mini have to do with a 5,8 PowerBook? |
| 14:41.48 | Corsac | pahartik: duh |
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| 14:48.34 | witch | Madkiss: you did not tell the version of BP before here |
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| 14:52.48 | pahartik | Corsac: it was delivered on 2004-12-10, today is 2005-12-11 |
| 14:53.12 | Corsac | mpf |
| 14:53.16 | Corsac | one year warranty ? |
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| 15:11.34 | xlobeznox | is java plugin in ppc usable now? |
| 15:14.48 | marculix | java plugin? |
| 15:14.49 | marculix | JVM? |
| 15:14.54 | marculix | Firefox plugin? |
| 15:20.35 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 15:21.08 | Bor_Ed | gcjwebplugin with ibm java works |
| 15:22.51 | marculix | xlobeznox: yes, I also use 'Classic VM (build 1.4.2, J2RE 1.4.2 IBM build cxppc32142-20050609' and all works fine |
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| 15:23.01 | johill | gcjwebplugin with ibm java?! |
| 15:25.28 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 15:25.40 | Bor_Ed | works at least here on moz 1.7.12 |
| 15:26.02 | xlobeznox | Bor_Ed, where do you downloaded it? |
| 15:26.13 | johill | how did you make gcjwebplugin use ibm's java? |
| 15:26.15 | Bor_Ed | ibm developerworks site... registration required |
| 15:26.33 | Bor_Ed | johill: it uses the jre that's available... I just happen to have only ibm on this sys |
| 15:26.41 | johill | ah |
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| 15:27.06 | pahartik | Corsac: i will go to store on tomorrow and see what they suggest... damn store is not open on today |
| 15:27.17 | Bor_Ed | prolly would work with kaffe and blackdown too |
| 15:28.03 | johill | doesn't work with anything at all here |
| 15:28.19 | Bor_Ed | works for me(tm) :) |
| 15:28.30 | johill | good for you (tm) :) |
| 15:28.30 | Bor_Ed | I have ibm 1.5 on this sys |
| 15:28.30 | johill | ;) |
| 15:28.33 | johill | me too |
| 15:28.50 | Bor_Ed | does it show up on about:plugins? |
| 15:30.43 | johill | yes |
| 15:31.01 | Bor_Ed | hmm, should work then |
| 15:31.18 | Bor_Ed | you get the java debug window up on java sites? |
| 15:35.08 | johill | debug window? |
| 15:41.06 | Madkiss | johill!! |
| 15:41.19 | johill | ? |
| 15:41.20 | Madkiss | johill: I have been trying to get a damn bootable CD all day, and my pb just refuses to boot any of them |
| 15:41.29 | johill | I have no idea |
| 15:41.33 | Madkiss | mkisofs -r -J -o debian-31r0a-powerpc-netinst-custom.iso -netatalk -hfs -probe -map sarge/install/hfs.map -part -no-desktop -hfs-bless ./install -hfs-volid Debian/PowerPC_Sarge sarge -- what's wrong with that? |
| 15:42.43 | johill | like I said, I have no idea |
| 15:43.05 | Madkiss | err, benh sent me to you |
| 15:43.14 | johill | heh |
| 15:43.39 | Madkiss | no, certainly not heh |
| 15:43.50 | Madkiss | I have been trying to get this stupid beast to even *boot* Linux the whole goddamn day |
| 15:44.06 | Madkiss | And all I encounter is errors, errors, errors, mistakes, and CDs that won't boot |
| 15:44.09 | johill | what beast? |
| 15:44.17 | Madkiss | pBook 5,8 |
| 15:44.25 | johill | have you tried the gentoo live cd? works fine here |
| 15:44.32 | johill | but the display just died! |
| 15:44.37 | johill | sucker of a powerbook |
| 15:44.46 | Madkiss | If I would want Gentoo, I would not be here. |
| 15:44.47 | johill | http://gentooexperimental.org/~pylon/ISOs/install-ppc-minimal-2005.1-r1.iso |
| 15:44.58 | johill | look. that's something that actually boots on the thing |
| 15:45.09 | Madkiss | 3.1r0a with 2.4 does, too. |
| 15:45.17 | Madkiss | Except for the fact that yaboot.conf is broken |
| 15:45.38 | johill | couldn't you use that to create a partition and copy the debian installer onto that, with a new custom kernel? |
| 15:45.50 | Madkiss | And so I created a new, fixed yaboot.conf and tried to get that on a goddamn bootable CD, and I just don't manage to, because for whatever reason, I can't produce a bootable CD |
| 15:46.07 | johill | I've never tried to create bootable CDs so really, I have no idea |
| 15:47.15 | johill | Madkiss: have you tried the -boot-hfs-file option to mkisofs? |
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| 15:51.46 | Madkiss | johill: That's of no interest for me. |
| 15:52.06 | johill | no idea |
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| 16:23.29 | DelTree | Hi... |
| 16:41.21 | mooch | dondelelcaro: yep, now is working, but has some inestability problems... every now and then i get an oops |
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| 17:53.03 | Madkiss | Erm, in yaboot.conf, the device-line seems to be wrong in my installation |
| 17:53.42 | Madkiss | my kernel is on /dev/hda3 -- what does the device-like look in this c ase? |
| 17:58.35 | marculix | hi PPC and fvwm friends, I've created a simple fvwm welcome-screen for using with FvwmBanner (Module), checkout: http://pubwww.fhzh.ch/~mgloor/powerbook.html |
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| 18:00.27 | paulproteus | I put a new hard disk in a powermac that runs Debian. I dd'd the old disk to the new disk so the system would boot, and it does boot. |
| 18:00.43 | paulproteus | The new disk is bigger than the old disk, so I want to resize /dev/sda5, which is the Linux "/" partition. |
| 18:00.53 | paulproteus | But mac-fdisk seems unaware that the disk is bigger. |
| 18:01.14 | paulproteus | Is this because the Apple_Partition_Map still has the old disk's information? If so, how can I safely regenerate that? |
| 18:04.16 | johill | paulproteus: I did a similar thing yesterday |
| 18:04.23 | johill | only the disk was smaller, but anyway |
| 18:04.28 | paulproteus | johill: Ah. How'd you manage it? |
| 18:04.43 | Madkiss | Why does the Debian Installer not contain ofpath? |
| 18:04.44 | Madkiss | -sigh- |
| 18:04.47 | johill | I ended up having to print the partition map, reinitialise it and recreate manually |
| 18:04.57 | johill | with the same sector offsets naturally |
| 18:05.08 | johill | the initialise step detected the disk size |
| 18:05.09 | Madkiss | Now how am I supposed to find out why yaboot thinks there is no kernel installed? And how am I supposed to find out what really the correct entry for the device=-line is? |
| 18:06.34 | johill | I suspect there is no other way |
| 18:06.50 | Madkiss | than what? |
| 18:07.13 | johill | Madkiss: for paulproteus problem |
| 18:10.02 | paulproteus | johill: That doesn't sound too bad, either. |
| 18:10.04 | paulproteus | I'll try that, thanks. |
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| 18:41.20 | Madkiss | is 2.4.27-apus the correct Kernel for a PowerBook5,8? |
| 18:44.24 | Bor_Ed | nope |
| 18:44.31 | Madkiss | Which one is? |
| 18:44.34 | Bor_Ed | that's for amiga powerpc update |
| 18:44.39 | Bor_Ed | 2.4.27-powerpc |
| 18:44.43 | Madkiss | I wonder why d-i installed that one, then |
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| 18:46.29 | Madkiss | Bor_Ed: thank you so much :) |
| 18:46.40 | Bor_Ed | helped? :) |
| 18:47.16 | Madkiss | oooh yeah. |
| 18:47.25 | Bor_Ed | hehe |
| 18:48.36 | Madkiss | I honestly would not haveexpected it to be such a big thing to install Linux on this beast |
| 18:48.55 | Bor_Ed | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.05 | Madkiss | oooh yeah. |
| 18:49.11 | Bor_Ed | there ya go :) |
| 18:49.29 | Madkiss | Whatever, I owe you a Guinness. |
| 18:49.41 | Bor_Ed | mmm, anytime you drop by to .fi |
| 18:49.59 | Madkiss | doesn't christel live there? (do you know christel? ;) |
| 18:50.10 | Bor_Ed | doesn't ring a bell |
| 18:50.18 | Madkiss | Whatever. :) |
| 18:51.43 | johill | figured it out finally? I had debian installed on this pbook but now the display died :( |
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| 19:08.24 | lobico | I have a problem in my ibook with 2.6.14 |
| 19:08.41 | lobico | doesnt recognice root partition |
| 19:08.59 | lobico | maybe doesnt have XFS in-kernel support? |
| 19:09.30 | Bor_Ed | default kernel doesn't have that built in |
| 19:09.40 | lobico | Bor_Ed, 2.6.8 have it |
| 19:09.41 | lobico | :S |
| 19:09.49 | Bor_Ed | hmm, really? |
| 19:09.54 | lobico | yes |
| 19:10.02 | lobico | I am in 2.6.8 with no problem... |
| 19:10.15 | Bor_Ed | that's debian kernel, not some special installer one? |
| 19:10.21 | lobico | no |
| 19:12.10 | lobico | so, then... |
| 19:12.23 | Bor_Ed | no for deb kernel or special one? |
| 19:12.32 | lobico | what? |
| 19:12.51 | Bor_Ed | [21:09] < Bor_Ed> | that's debian kernel, not some special installer one? |
| 19:12.54 | Bor_Ed | [21:09] < lobico> | no |
| 19:13.10 | lobico | CONFIG_FS_POSIX_ACL=y |
| 19:13.11 | lobico | CONFIG_XFS_FS=m |
| 19:13.11 | lobico | CONFIG_XFS_EXPORT=y |
| 19:13.11 | lobico | CONFIG_XFS_QUOTA=y |
| 19:13.11 | lobico | CONFIG_XFS_SECURITY=y |
| 19:13.11 | lobico | CONFIG_XFS_POSIX_ACL=y |
| 19:13.24 | lobico | kernel 2.6.14 config, so it seems that is as a module |
| 19:15.51 | Bor_Ed | yup... |
| 19:15.58 | Bor_Ed | rebuild the kernel |
| 19:16.31 | lobico | CONFIG_JFS_STATISTICS=y |
| 19:16.33 | lobico | CONFIG_XFS_FS=m |
| 19:16.35 | lobico | the same in 2.6.8 |
| 19:16.37 | lobico | I doesnt understand! |
| 19:16.43 | lobico | I mean: /boot/config-2.6.8-powerpc file |
| 19:16.50 | lobico | I edited and look for XFS lines... |
| 19:17.03 | Bor_Ed | 2.6.8 prolly has different initrd than 2.6.14 |
| 19:26.58 | lobico | Bor_Ed, yap |
| 19:26.58 | lobico | must be that |
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| 19:51.33 | Madkiss | YES. YES YES YES. |
| 19:51.35 | Madkiss | I got it. |
| 19:51.57 | Madkiss | johill: Yes, I managed to get it done. I even have an .iso-file that will let you install 2.4 on PowerBook 5,8s |
| 19:52.01 | Bor_Ed | so right kernel worked on the iso after all :) |
| 19:52.59 | Madkiss | I just wonder why d-i installed the apua-kernel in the first place |
| 19:53.15 | Bor_Ed | prolly recognization bug |
| 19:53.27 | Bor_Ed | check out b.d.o |
| 19:54.33 | Bor_Ed | anyway, you happen to be the person that makes/made xfce4 builds? |
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| 20:12.11 | Q-FUNK | Bor_Ed: if you have today's HS on hand, check out page D6 |
| 20:15.17 | Q-FUNK | oh well |
| 20:16.28 | Bor_Ed | yer 'public messages' got through? |
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| 21:24.04 | SimonRaven | sungem, bmac variant? *shrug* lspci |
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| 21:47.35 | Q-FUNK | hm |
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