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00:33.22dondelelcaromooch: hey, any chance I could get your kernel .config? I keep having issues with __udelay and the bcm driver
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09:25.15moochdondelelcaro: not at this moment
09:25.31moochi am in spain for the debconf and have only the ibook hhere
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12:03.42*** topic/#debianppc is Debian on PPC - think of it as a never-ending IQ test. | current release: 2.6.14 | Wiki at tinyurl.com/2r8uc | Sarge released: 2005-06-06 | pasting? /whois paster | ALSA bounty: http://tinyurl.com/b44ls | PPC sound cards http://tinyurl.com/7lrrk | Airport Extreme driver: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/ and http://tinyurl.com/8dpmt and http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-409194.html
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14:00.45babilenhi all....
14:00.54babilenhow do i remove a half-installed package?
14:01.17marculixdpkg --purge <pkg>
14:01.27babilenand does somebody else had some problem with compiling linux-source-2.6.14?
14:02.38babilenmarculix: purge is not working, as the package is not yet installed.
14:02.57marculixdpkg -r <pkg>
14:03.33marculixor install the package and remove/purge it the clean way
14:03.48babilenmarculix: where#s the difference.... as i said dpkg -r / --purge are not working, as the package is half installed... but not yet configured..
14:03.58babilenthe postinstall hangs, and i had to stop it..
14:04.21marculixso you don't use stable?
14:04.23babilennow i have a half-installed linux-image-2.6.14 ... which i can#t remove..
14:04.56babilenah, sure... forget to mention that.. i'm on unstable..
14:05.58babileni know it's unstable, and i see why now... but i am running unstable for some time now, and never had a problem i could not fix..
14:06.35babilenso, how to remove a half-installed package?
14:08.03marculixif you use unstable [x] you are distribution hacker [x] you should solve such trivial problems your own
14:08.17babilenthe problem with the postinstall is, that the postinstall script does not recognize my bootloader and hangs indefinetly..
14:08.17marculixotherwise, use stable
14:08.24babilenvery good answer....
14:13.39marculixbabilen: I daily read discussions and threads of users which use sid or testing. Some of them are not familiar with linux and debian but it's trendy to use unstable for some reason
14:14.03marculixI propose to try to repair the package system for instance
14:14.05marculixapt-get check
14:14.13marculixdpkg --audit
14:14.17marculixTrace failed packages
14:14.25marculixapt-get -f install
14:14.35marculixprobably that helps
14:15.39marculixor go into: /var/lib/dpkg/info/
14:15.43marculixan do some manual hacks
14:15.48marculixto fix your broken debian
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14:22.14babilensorry, got a call....
14:22.31babileni traced the problem to the linux-image postinstall procedure..
14:22.56babilenit fails to recognize my bootloader (yaboot) and hangs then...
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15:13.13Rusty1_machello , looking for right click emulation on a beige g3 , xfree86.  any hints?
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15:40.45Bor_Edhmm, a minor breakup on freenode servers? :o
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15:44.21marculixBor_Ed: Hmm also wondering about that. Since today, I couldn't use irc.debian.org anymore (I used that for months, or years?) - since I switched to another freenode irc-server, it will work as usual
15:44.40Bor_EdI have irc.debian.org now
15:45.39marculixoh
15:46.11Bor_Edit got back working finally
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15:59.21Bor_Edumm, the mkinitrd is still buggered on sid?
16:03.33pahartikbabilen: i had that same problem... switched back to previous version of "kernel-package"
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16:54.04Bor_Edhmm, linux-source-2.6.14 getting compiled now with own config
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19:14.41kpanichey guys, how could I manually compile a kernel? I know how to do it in i386 (with lilo), but with yaboot?
19:15.24SimonRavenit's the same. it's not dependent on bootloader
19:15.31SimonRaven@tell kpanic -about kp
19:16.01kpanicSimonRaven, yeah, just used kernel-package but it stalls here:
19:16.07kpanicGET mkvmlinuz/bootloaders
19:16.16SimonRavensid?
19:16.19kpanicyeah
19:16.24SimonRavensee BTS
19:16.28kpanicok
19:17.04SimonRavenproblem with initrds, and other stuff.
19:17.38SimonRavenFUCKED: yaird/kernels (#343042/#343048)
19:18.53SimonRaventhose ^^ in particular
19:20.56Bor_Edoh well, at least selfbuilt kernel seems to compile...
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19:21.36SimonRavenyaird is for making initrds
19:21.52Bor_Edinitrds are needed for installers :)
19:26.03SimonRavenyeh, and corner cases like lvm /, raid /, nfs /, and other unusual creatures
19:26.21Bor_Edhmm, nfs too?
19:26.33Bor_Edwell, maybe on netboots
19:27.36SimonRavenyeh for net booting
19:27.46Bor_Edriiight
19:28.15kpaniccould you give me an example of how to use mkvmlinuz?
19:28.26Bor_Edhmm, I wonder if gc could netboot... though with only 40 megs ram it's not really desktop material
19:28.47Q-FUNKfirefox 1.5, at alst.
19:28.55SimonRavenoh, it's in? cool
19:29.06Q-FUNKin incoming
19:29.09SimonRavennice
19:29.24Q-FUNKalthough for some damn reason, everything in it is called deer park
19:30.02SimonRaveni didn't see that in the release version (fetched the tarball and installed it on the x86)
19:31.03Bor_Edumm, why vanilla pukes too to conf.vars file not existing?
19:31.23SimonRavenit's not producing it?
19:31.37Bor_Edprolly but why? :o
19:31.45SimonRaven*shrug*
19:32.00Bor_Edkernel gets built but .deb pukes
19:32.17SimonRavensee the BTS #s ^^^
19:32.22SimonRaven#343042/#343048
19:32.35SimonRavenmaybe they're illuminating
19:32.39Bor_Edhrm... isn't that only for deb kernel?
19:32.46Bor_EdI tried with 2.6.14.4 vanilla
19:32.56SimonRavendunno, haven't checked yet. lemme see...
19:33.26Bor_Ednice not to have anything more recent than 2.4.27 on this box now :P
19:35.15Bor_Edhmm, it's the linux-headers that pukes but it prevents the build of kernel image too
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19:36.30Bor_Edahh, building just kernel_image
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19:42.38Bor_Edsuprise, built the .deb
19:46.42SimonRavencool
19:47.11Bor_Edand hung to GET mkvmlinuz/bootloaders ...
19:47.25Bor_Edmaybe it'll continue eventually
19:50.44Bor_Edhrm, maybe the thingy needs the install old way
19:52.09Bor_Edmake install && make modules_install?
19:54.41SimonRaveni built my last ones with the build targets in scripts/package/Makefile (adds a deb-pkg target, to make a .deb)
19:55.11SimonRavendoesn't make the usual k-p targets though
19:55.15Bor_EdI just used kernel-package... it has worked so far
19:55.43SimonRaventhat ^^ was just to try it out :)
19:56.00Bor_Edhmm, do I need the vmlinuz anyway? iirc bootx doesn't support compressed images
19:56.59SimonRavenjust use the '<source tree>/vmlinux' one
19:57.25Bor_Edrecalled so... though the kernel got installed from .deb, it's just postinstall that pukes
19:57.50SimonRavenok
19:58.14Bor_Edoff to see the new kernel :)
19:58.29SimonRavengood luck
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20:03.06Bor_EdLinux version 2.6.14.4 (root@g3) (gcc version 4.0.3 20051201 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.2-5)) #2 PREEMPT Sat Dec 17 21:38:41 EET 2005
20:03.11Bor_Edluck?? what's that? :D
20:03.55Q-FUNK;)
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20:20.53SimonRavengood point ;)
20:22.14Bor_Edhmm, LANG=fi_FI@euro app& still loaded the app in english :o
20:22.36Bor_Edshouldn't that change the language?
20:23.15Q-FUNKLANGUAGE
20:23.19Bor_Edbah
20:23.22Bor_Edlessee
20:23.55Bor_Edthanks
20:24.14Bor_Edand the app seems to be in finglish :(
20:24.40Q-FUNKthat means a half-translated or most likely once translated and enver updated po
20:25.32Bor_Edwell, seems to work better in english so why not to use like that
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23:41.01Bor_EdQ-FUNK: you still hold that alsa db?

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