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| 00:07.03 | ryoohki | anyone using debian on a imac? |
| 00:07.11 | ryoohki | the monitor need adjusting |
| 00:07.45 | ryoohki | it's slightly rotated clockwise so the last letter on the bottom left-hand side is missing |
| 00:08.22 | ryoohki | there doesn't seem to be any way to address that |
| 00:11.29 | pahartik | ryoohki: "xvidtune" |
| 00:12.10 | ryoohki | i know that one but x isn't sintalled yet |
| 00:12.27 | pahartik | ryoohki: "fbset" |
| 00:12.33 | ryoohki | ok |
| 00:13.04 | ryoohki | not found - i'll install it after x is installed |
| 00:14.32 | ryoohki | is there a bios way to do thiat? how do i get into the bios? is there a ram checker like memtest86+? i had trouble with crashes so i switched the 512mb ram sticks around and either one stick is bad or was poorly seated |
| 00:14.56 | ryoohki | all seems well now except for the screen rotation |
| 00:20.44 | ryoohki | huh - turned my zaurs off 15 minutes ago |
| 00:31.54 | pahartik | ryoohki: 900 seconds |
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| 00:32.29 | ryoohki | tesdt |
| 00:33.17 | ryoohki | kernel panic now |
| 00:33.22 | ryoohki | but sys still up |
| 00:33.32 | ryoohki | what is latest kernel? |
| 00:33.42 | ryoohki | i have 2.6.8 |
| 00:33.50 | ryoohki | i saw 2.6.8-r12 |
| 00:33.58 | ryoohki | is there a 2.6.14? |
| 00:34.41 | ryoohki | how do i apt-cache search for it? apt-cache search kernel? |
| 00:34.58 | Corsac | linux-image i guess |
| 00:36.42 | ryoohki-zaurus | rebooting |
| 00:37.33 | ryoohki-zaurus | linux-image? apt-cache search linux-image? ok, when the machine comes back up, i'll try it |
| 00:38.22 | ryoohki-zaurus | is there a ppc 2.6.14? |
| 00:42.56 | pahartik | ryoohki-zaurus: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=linux-image-2.6.14-2-powerpc&searchon=names&version=all&release=main |
| 00:43.30 | ryoohki-zaurus | thanks |
| 00:45.39 | pahartik | ryoohki-zaurus: tried it, it worked for my iBook G4... i had temporary problems on building custom Linux 2.6.14 so i used binary package |
| 00:45.50 | ryoohki-zaurus | ok |
| 00:46.49 | ryoohki-zaurus | is there a "memtest86+" for the imac? |
| 00:48.45 | ryoohki-zaurus | nothing in stable |
| 00:49.14 | ryoohki-zaurus | pahartik, what's in your sources.list? |
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| 00:51.06 | ryoohki-zaurus | would you email me your sources.list to cheselka at gmail dot com |
| 00:51.52 | pahartik | ryoohki-zaurus: this is older version, i switched to xserver-xorg already: http://zazu.vip.fi/~pahartik/sources.list |
| 00:53.13 | pahartik | ryoohki-zaurus: it requires some control to not accidentally update to unstable... |
| 00:54.39 | pahartik | ryoohki-zaurus: but i have managed for years by using "aptitude" to choose specific versions of packages to install |
| 00:56.43 | pahartik | ryoohki-zaurus: try "memtest" of "memtester" or "sysutils" |
| 01:02.08 | ryoohki-zaurus | any imac specific? |
| 01:02.46 | ryoohki-zaurus | do these work on running systems? |
| 01:03.20 | ryoohki-zaurus | memtest86 is stand alone, you choose it in grub |
| 01:07.15 | Corsac | gmmgn, i getting oopses with softmac, don't understand why :/ |
| 01:08.30 | ryoohki-zaurus | pahartik, thanks! i got your sources.list |
| 01:09.08 | ryoohki-zaurus | pahartik, will change the .fi to a us mirror |
| 01:09.38 | ryoohki-zaurus | bye all |
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| 01:48.02 | Buddha| | I'm having some problems with my Debian 3.1 installation on a G4 iBook. Could someone help? (I'm not being specific because I'm having multiple problems) |
| 01:49.27 | dondelelcaro | Buddha|: just ask... |
| 01:50.31 | Buddha| | First, when I turn it on and it isn't connected to any network, it spends a really long time trying to find a network connection. |
| 01:51.02 | dondelelcaro | that's just dhcp; you can tell it not to automatically bring up eth0 if you want. [remove the auto eth0; line in /etc/network/interfaces] |
| 01:51.16 | dondelelcaro | (or give it a static or...) |
| 01:52.14 | Buddha| | Second, the startup seems slow in general. It takes almost a full minute to boot, and I have a *very* minimal install. |
| 01:53.14 | dondelelcaro | that's because the init scripts run in serial instead of parallel; this will probably be addressed with init-ng... of course, you really don't need to start up all that often. |
| 01:53.45 | dondelelcaro | (which is the main reason why no one has really bothered to do anything about it yet) |
| 01:55.26 | Buddha| | dondelelcaro - This is a laptop that I cart around most places I go. It gets turned on and off quite a lot. |
| 01:55.53 | dondelelcaro | Buddha|: I have two of them; one of them hasn't been turned off save for kernel upgrades in over a year. |
| 01:56.09 | Buddha| | a laptop? |
| 01:56.12 | dondelelcaro | Buddha|: ibooks do memory suspend quite well. |
| 01:56.35 | dondelelcaro | Buddha|: if that uses too much power, you can always use suspend2 |
| 01:58.09 | Buddha| | I take night classes at ITT Tech. The campus is an hour away, and the classes last for 4 hours. Would it be safe to put it on suspend for an hour in a moving car? |
| 01:58.17 | dondelelcaro | Buddha|: yes. |
| 01:58.37 | Buddha| | and how much of the battery would that use? |
| 01:58.47 | dondelelcaro | Buddha|: you probalby won't even notice. |
| 01:59.11 | dondelelcaro | my experience is that they'll usually sleep for about a week on battery. |
| 01:59.36 | Buddha| | wow |
| 02:00.17 | Buddha| | I think I'll take your suggestion about having eth0 not start on boot. I don't access the Net much on it anyway, except to get updates. |
| 02:00.46 | Buddha| | What GUI do you use on yours? |
| 02:01.06 | dondelelcaro | my basic mode of operation is "open lid, start working [...] close lid, wait for the throbber to come on, continue on." |
| 02:02.32 | Corsac | did someone tried new recode builtin irssi 0.8.10 ? |
| 02:10.14 | Buddha| | dondelelcaro - my last problem/question is this: Should I have pbbuttonsd or pmud installed? |
| 02:10.36 | dondelelcaro | Buddha|: if it's a newer ibook, pbbuttonsd. If it's ancient, pmud may be enough. |
| 02:10.52 | Buddha| | dondelelcaro: it's a 2004 |
| 02:10.58 | Buddha| | 1.2GHz |
| 02:11.09 | dondelelcaro | yeah, pbbuttonsd then |
| 02:13.00 | Buddha| | thanks. what GUI do you use? I've got Openbox/Rox on mine at the moment, but I'm not all that happy with it. |
| 02:15.46 | dondelelcaro | I use openbox3+X |
| 02:16.05 | dondelelcaro | I really don't care much about the window manager, so long as it stays the hell out of the way |
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| 02:17.31 | [11aa] | hello |
| 02:18.10 | [11aa] | is there available a boot disk for debian on a powerpc olworld performa (sarge)? |
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| 02:32.03 | [11aa] | wow thth why they dont want to support it |
| 02:39.08 | SimonRaven | [11aa]: no |
| 02:39.24 | SimonRaven | [11aa]: no. it's mopre complex than that |
| 02:44.14 | [11aa] | I know even trying to install their own mac OS is very dificult |
| 02:46.04 | SimonRaven | oh, i thought you were talking about the debian install cd :) |
| 02:47.53 | [11aa] | I am its just that the floppy boot for sarge in those does not work |
| 02:48.17 | [11aa] | it does for woody but the woody disk i could not find |
| 02:48.52 | [11aa] | i mean the cds, i found and have the floppy boot disks |
| 02:51.09 | SimonRaven | you need the working floppy images |
| 02:51.19 | SimonRaven | @sarge daily snapshot |
| 02:51.34 | SimonRaven | hm, need to find it, sec |
| 02:52.20 | SimonRaven | @sarge daily snapshots |
| 02:52.20 | ravenbird | get your daily sarge PPC builds at http://people.debian.org/~luther/ |
| 02:52.37 | [11aa] | the sarge disk /install folder does not have the floppy images like the readme.html says it does |
| 02:52.50 | SimonRaven | go there, and look for d-i or debian-installer, and find something before jun6 2005 |
| 02:53.28 | [11aa] | ok ill go ythere thanks <SimonRaven> |
| 02:56.10 | Buddha| | What would people suggest as a GUI for an iBook? |
| 02:56.33 | Buddha| | I'm using Openbox 3 right now |
| 02:57.20 | SimonRaven | use what you want. try them all |
| 02:59.30 | Buddha| | SimonRaven - I've used Gnome, KDE, Ion3, Openbox, Blackbox, Fluxbox, Xfce, WindowMaker, Enlightenment, and Windowlab on my desktop. I was hoping for a suggestion on one that works well on a laptop. |
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| 04:22.01 | pahartik | Buddha|: i use "xfce4 4.2.3" with "xserver-xorg 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11" on iBook G4 |
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| 04:55.49 | stazich_ | hi, i have Sarge installed. i was wondering why the kernel on it is pretty old? i saw that gentoo current install comes with a much newer kernel. does it really matter? i was thinking of maybe installing a newer kernel on my sarge |
| 04:56.23 | SimonRaven | just install it then. fyi, they're updated whenever needs arise. |
| 05:01.48 | stazich_ | can u tell meofa place to dload latest ppc32 kernel? cant find it |
| 05:03.31 | SimonRaven | apt-get. try apt-get.org, but i doubt they'll have ppc there |
| 05:20.58 | pahartik | stazich_: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=linux-image-2.6.14-2-powerpc&searchon=names&version=all&release=main |
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| 07:04.48 | ryoohki | hello! |
| 07:05.10 | ryoohki | finally at 2.6.14-2 |
| 07:05.45 | ryoohki | is there a diagnostic cd/dvd for imacs i can download and burn? |
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| 07:56.29 | ryoohki | hello |
| 08:18.16 | ryoohki | how do i update the firmware on the imavc? |
| 08:18.18 | ryoohki | how do i update the firmware on the imac? |
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| 09:30.59 | ryoohki | how does one update the firmware on the imac from linux? |
| 09:35.30 | pahartik | ryoohki: no |
| 09:37.07 | ryoohki | pahartic, no? can't be done or no it's not advised? |
| 09:38.13 | ryoohki | pahartik, can it be done from the open firmware prompt? |
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| 11:45.53 | ryoohki | hello |
| 12:04.40 | lixus | ryoohki, i guess "yes" it can be done from the firmware prompt, but i can't tell you how |
| 12:05.22 | lixus | there should be a bootable cdrom with a firmware updater around somewhere |
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| 15:44.22 | ryoohki | how do i add a pgp key so apt-get can use it? |
| 15:44.57 | ryoohki | the rpm --import-key equivalent |
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| 15:51.14 | ryoohki | anyone have dvd playing working with mplayer yet? |
| 15:57.31 | pahartik | ryoohki: http://developers.videolan.org/libdvdcss/ |
| 16:03.53 | ryoohki | pahartik, do you have it working? |
| 16:05.34 | pahartik | ryoohki: i had it working on iBook G4 about 6 months ago |
| 16:06.32 | pahartik | ryoohki: "libdvdcss" worked with "gxine" and "mplayer" |
| 16:12.25 | ryoohki | pahartik, seems like country codes is the problem |
| 16:12.46 | ryoohki | pahartik, i may have to tinker with the dvd-rom's firmware |
| 16:21.44 | ryoohki | pahartik, how does one upgrade the firmware in an imac running linux? |
| 16:43.41 | lixus | ryoohki, about the key thing: curl http://debian.jox.be/public.key.asc | sudo apt-key - |
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| 22:14.00 | *** topic/#debianppc is Debian on PPC - think of it as a never-ending IQ test. | current release: 2.6.14 | Wiki at tinyurl.com/2r8uc | Sarge released: 2005-06-06 | pasting? /whois paster | ALSA bounty: http://tinyurl.com/b44ls | PPC sound cards http://tinyurl.com/7lrrk | Airport Extreme driver: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/ and http://tinyurl.com/8dpmt and http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-409194.html |
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| 22:23.09 | fransemail | hello to everybody |
| 22:25.59 | fransemail | May anyone help me to install debian linux on a power mac g4? I'm debian (x86) user, but I never worked with ppc. I download the netinstall image and burn it (on my x86 linuxbox), on boot I press 'c' but nothing appens (but if I reboot with OSX CD, installation starts). What is wrong? |
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| 23:33.09 | sobersabre | maybe you' |
| 23:33.18 | sobersabre | ve inserted a wrong Cd. |