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| 01:32.57 | wakest | hello |
| 01:33.56 | wakest | I need to change the screen resolution on my powerbook, I just installed debian sarge, and got kde working, |
| 01:34.51 | wakest | but, the display tab doesn't have the right size for monitor. |
| 01:35.03 | wakest | can anyone help? |
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| 01:37.44 | wakest | sorry, closed the window |
| 01:38.13 | wakest | can anyone help with my problem? |
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| 01:43.35 | wakest | can anyone even see this? |
| 01:45.58 | wcstok | nope |
| 01:46.15 | wakest | sweet |
| 01:46.47 | wakest | I wasn't sure if it was even working, since no one has talked to me |
| 01:48.24 | wakest | so, I am running debian on my powerbook, and got kde working, but, I need to change the resolution of the screen, and it doesn't give me the right sizes in the control panel |
| 01:48.40 | wakest | do I then have to do it manualy? |
| 01:50.02 | wcstok | probably...most likely dont have acceptable horiz/vertical frequency settings in your X config |
| 01:51.31 | wakest | I an not sure how to change this |
| 01:51.52 | wakest | can I do it from with in kde, while kde is running? |
| 01:52.09 | wcstok | probably not |
| 01:52.24 | wakest | fuck |
| 01:53.20 | wakest | do you know where the xconfig file is? |
| 01:53.30 | wcstok | yes |
| 01:54.23 | wakest | could you tell me? |
| 01:54.43 | wcstok | ls /etc/X11 |
| 01:58.14 | wakest | so you can't just edit that file with like Kedit and save it and reboot eh? |
| 01:58.54 | wakest | I am logged in as root |
| 01:59.39 | wcstok | you can if you want |
| 01:59.48 | wcstok | you dont have to reboot, just restart X |
| 02:01.45 | wakest | oh, well, that sounds cool |
| 02:44.15 | ryoohki | how do i format a macos hfs partition under linux? |
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| 02:47.46 | xwl | Hi, there. Can i use gcc to generate "MIPSEB ECOFF executable" files on |
| 02:47.47 | xwl | linuxppc? |
| 02:48.14 | xwl | Or maybe i have to install some cross compiler? |
| 02:54.16 | wcstok | build gcc as a cross compiler |
| 02:58.16 | xwl | i.e., create a new toolchain? |
| 02:58.22 | xwl | oops.. |
| 03:00.27 | ryoohki | where is mkfs.hfs? |
| 03:25.35 | ryoohki | wakest, many people just do "X -configure" also "Xorg -configure" |
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| 17:46.06 | gall | Where could i find xorf for ppc ? |
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| 17:57.47 | SimonRaven | nowhere. if you mean xorg, etch has it |
| 17:58.13 | SimonRaven | there *may* be ppc backports at backports.org or apt-get.org if you're on sarge |
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| 18:18.55 | Bor_Ed | http://www.socketcom.com/product/CS0400-479.asp hmm, nice toy |
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| 18:26.22 | gall | What kernel use for powerbook g4 ? |
| 18:27.05 | Bor_Ed | linux-image-2.6-powerpc |
| 18:28.36 | johill | depends on the powerbook |
| 18:29.05 | johill | didn't someone say that some previous kernels before 2.6.15-rc3 or so don't boot on the latest powerbooks? |
| 18:30.06 | gall | Bor_Ed: Why not kernel-image-2.6.8-powerpc ? |
| 18:30.36 | SimonRaven | he's got sarge... |
| 18:32.10 | Bor_Ed | gall: kernel-image-2.6 installs the latest iirc |
| 18:33.08 | gall | Ok |
| 18:36.28 | Bor_Ed | hehe, dropped couple of questions to closest retailer of the serial/bluetooth adapter |
| 18:36.59 | gall | http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~schmidtm/apple/powerbook.en.php |
| 18:37.08 | gall | Who has god g4 like that on the page ? |
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| 19:27.41 | Bor_Ed | hmm, does mplayer on ppc play M4V quicktime clips? |
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| 19:31.06 | johill | Bor_Ed: don't think so |
| 19:31.21 | Bor_Ed | no use downloading the clip then |
| 19:35.03 | johill | it has sound |
| 19:35.48 | Bor_Ed | like wmv9... ok, I'll pass |
| 19:37.24 | SimonRaven | ugh, drm-encumbered... |
| 19:41.05 | johill | ffmpeg seems to read it |
| 19:41.13 | johill | but complains about the audio stream? |
| 19:41.56 | johill | nah. ffplay doesn't work either |
| 19:41.59 | johill | shows the first frame |
| 19:42.35 | Bor_Ed | http://downloads.oreilly.com/make/howitismade.m4v is the file I was thinking of |
| 19:43.37 | Bor_Ed | whines unknown file type but loads up the codecs... and works :o |
| 19:43.46 | johill | ffplay? |
| 19:43.52 | Bor_Ed | mplayer |
| 19:44.38 | johill | looks mangled for me |
| 19:45.14 | Bor_Ed | works here(tm) on sid... though bandwidth was too poor so I have to download the clip to watch |
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| 19:45.55 | wakest | can someone help me install firefox 1.5 |
| 19:46.02 | wakest | I am having a hell of a time |
| 19:46.04 | johill | well, good for you |
| 19:46.08 | wakest | hehe |
| 19:46.22 | johill | wakest: apt-get install mozilla-firefox |
| 19:46.53 | wakest | I thought that wasn't 1.5 |
| 19:47.02 | johill | it is on unstable |
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| 19:47.47 | wakest | damn, that was easy |
| 19:47.52 | SimonRaven | firefox is 1.5 |
| 19:48.02 | SimonRaven | (package name change) |
| 19:48.12 | wakest | I have been reading fourms and following stupid directions for 45 minutes |
| 19:48.27 | wakest | and haven't gotten anywhere, |
| 19:48.31 | SimonRaven | apt-cache search is your friend |
| 19:48.31 | Bor_Ed | always come to here first... I've learned my lesson :) |
| 19:48.38 | wakest | thank s alot |
| 19:49.04 | Bor_Ed | for example I had a prob with some IDE RAD thingy today, dropped by to its freenode chan and got the thingy solved in a min :) |
| 19:49.38 | wakest | does anyone know if there is a working driver for the airport extream card for sarge? |
| 19:50.21 | Bor_Ed | depends on the kernel you use... /topic |
| 19:50.37 | SimonRaven | it's not in debian. that's a DIY project, and 'extreme' |
| 19:50.49 | wakest | I installed the stable netinstall |
| 19:51.01 | wakest | right |
| 19:51.58 | wakest | I just installed firefox, but it says its 1.0.4 |
| 19:52.18 | SimonRaven | that's sarge |
| 19:52.30 | SimonRaven | it's really some later version, FYI |
| 19:52.55 | wakest | so what do I need to do to install 1.5 on sarge? |
| 19:53.27 | wakest | add the unstable thingy to the source list? |
| 19:53.55 | SimonRaven | no, you'll wreck your sarge, and effectively move to unstable |
| 19:54.04 | wakest | oh, ok |
| 19:54.14 | wakest | well, what should I do to get 1.5? |
| 19:54.44 | SimonRaven | see backports.org or apt-get.org |
| 19:55.02 | wakest | I couldn't find it on backports, |
| 19:55.24 | wakest | I'll check out apt-get |
| 19:55.45 | SimonRaven | then either make the backport yourself, or dist-upgrade to etch, and install the sid packages manually |
| 19:55.54 | SimonRaven | or check there :) |
| 19:56.09 | wakest | hmm, 1.0.4 won't open, |
| 19:56.22 | wakest | it starts opening, but then quits |
| 19:58.41 | wakest | is there a app to look at crash logs in kde? |
| 19:59.17 | SimonRaven | try the console you ran startx in, or ~/.xsession-errors, or the *dm's log |
| 20:01.26 | wakest | ahh, I just tryed to open xsession and my screen now looks all fucked up |
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| 20:24.56 | wakest | so, I can not get firefox working |
| 20:25.08 | wakest | it starts opening, then quits, |
| 20:25.11 | wakest | any ideas? |
| 20:25.26 | wakest | on debian sarge stable |
| 20:31.29 | wakest | no help? |
| 20:36.54 | Bor_Ed | hmm, that old version can be problematic... you might want to try building on your own |
| 20:36.59 | SimonRaven | see BTS |
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| 20:53.52 | wakest | whats BTS? |
| 20:54.09 | SimonRaven | @bts |
| 20:54.10 | ravenbird | the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package, try <http://bugs.debian.org/packagename>. Anyone running unstable who's unable to check the BTS should be shot on sight. apt-get install reportbug. reportbug also has querybts in it; 'querybts <bug number>' or 'querybts <package name>' |
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| 21:14.34 | wakest | how can I get firefox 1.5 woking on my sarge stable? |
| 21:14.51 | wakest | I have been trying like all day, and cannot figure it out |
| 21:14.57 | Bor_Ed | with either black magic or voodoo |
| 21:15.11 | wakest | errg |
| 21:15.23 | wakest | I just want to cry. |
| 21:15.53 | Bor_Ed | try to pick up the tarball from moz site... it might install |
| 21:16.19 | Curalton | on... ppc? |
| 21:16.36 | SimonRaven | there *might* be a ppc tarball... or you could go the dist-upgrade -> etch, and install sid's .deb |
| 21:17.17 | wakest | well, for one I can't get 1.0.4 to even work |
| 21:17.41 | Curalton | uh? sure it's not just a messed up ~/.mozilla? |
| 21:18.28 | Bor_Ed | I have plain ol' moz-1.7.x here... has always worked faster than fb/ff/whatever and hasn't messed up my ~/ land |
| 21:18.29 | wakest | no |
| 21:18.37 | wakest | how can I find out |
| 21:18.38 | SimonRaven | could very well be. often the case when ff crashes like that... |
| 21:18.49 | wakest | it just doesn't open |
| 21:18.58 | wakest | it starts, and stops right away |
| 21:19.20 | SimonRaven | i'm sure it does... i bet if you straced it you'd see where it crashed... |
| 21:19.21 | wakest | so what do I do to fix the ~/.mozilla? |
| 21:20.16 | SimonRaven | mv ~/.mozilla/firefox ~/.mozilla/firefox.old |
| 21:20.17 | Curalton | mv .mozilla .mozilla_old |
| 21:20.28 | SimonRaven | heh |
| 21:21.16 | wakest | well, that sure didn't do anything |
| 21:21.51 | SimonRaven | ok, so it is ff |
| 21:22.28 | wakest | ahh, man, I wish I know more. |
| 21:22.48 | wakest | I feel so n00bish |
| 21:23.02 | Curalton | hmm, ffx in stable doesnt work. strange |
| 21:23.25 | wakest | so how do I do strace? |
| 21:23.34 | wakest | that man page is sure huge |
| 21:23.52 | Curalton | strace -fF -o /tmp/logfile mozilla-firefox |
| 21:24.37 | wakest | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 21:24.37 | wakest | Xlib: XDM authorization key matches an existing client! |
| 21:24.37 | wakest | (firefox-bin:31269): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
| 21:24.49 | wakest | ehh,? |
| 21:24.55 | Curalton | dont start it as root |
| 21:25.07 | Curalton | use the same user who runs the desktop |
| 21:25.11 | wakest | well, I am logged in as root |
| 21:25.21 | wakest | is that a big no no? |
| 21:25.25 | Bor_Ed | yers |
| 21:25.30 | wakest | damn, |
| 21:25.32 | Bor_Ed | never run as a root |
| 21:25.59 | SimonRaven | YES IT'S A BIG NO-NO |
| 21:26.06 | Curalton | aye |
| 21:26.07 | wakest | I was installing things that said they needed to be installed as root, so I figured I might as well just log in as root |
| 21:26.16 | wakest | well, I will be right back then |
| 21:26.21 | Bor_Ed | su/su -c/sudo to install or admin |
| 21:26.23 | SimonRaven | the x binary is setuid root, a large binary. you don't want to run that as root |
| 21:27.02 | SimonRaven | bad idea. if you need a root term, open an xterm or something then su/sudo/sux |
| 21:27.31 | SimonRaven | *sigh* |
| 21:27.37 | Bor_Ed | well, he's fixing it now |
| 21:27.42 | SimonRaven | yeh |
| 21:28.05 | SimonRaven | probably getting errors like "cannot open display: 0" |
| 21:28.33 | Bor_Ed | I'll need to hit the sack... buggr work is hunting me again and I'd need to get a nap before it :D |
| 21:28.56 | SimonRaven | alright, sleep well, and g'night |
| 21:29.01 | Bor_Ed | have fun all and late good x-mas/whatever |
| 21:29.15 | SimonRaven | you too |
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| 21:31.13 | wakest | back |
| 21:31.33 | SimonRaven | 16:27 SimonRaven : bad idea. if you need a root term, open an xterm or something then su/sudo/sux |
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| 21:34.02 | wakest | I understand now, I am new, today is my first day with linux installed |
| 21:34.04 | wakest | so |
| 21:34.07 | wakest | I am learning |
| 21:34.32 | SimonRaven | heh, might want to read rutebook |
| 21:34.35 | SimonRaven | @rutebook |
| 21:34.35 | ravenbird | if you want a copy of rutebook, wget http://simonraven.nuit.ca/docs/pdf/rute.pdf.bz2, or apt-get install rutebook |
| 21:35.03 | wakest | what is rutebook? |
| 21:35.22 | SimonRaven | @rutebook is also you'll need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list to include ' contrib non-free' after 'main' |
| 21:35.22 | ravenbird | SimonRaven: okay |
| 21:35.58 | wakest | huh? |
| 21:36.10 | Curalton | wakest: he just gave a cmd to the bot |
| 21:36.26 | wakest | oh |
| 21:36.33 | Curalton | "Suggests: www-browser, xpdf, gs" -- debian needs a $FORMAT-reader dependency |
| 21:36.57 | SimonRaven | debtags has something for that IIRC |
| 21:37.16 | Curalton | though, kpdf depends on xpdf atm iirc |
| 21:49.25 | wakest | so, I am still wanting to get firefox to work |
| 21:49.50 | wakest | I have never had this much trouble installing an application |
| 21:50.37 | wakest | but, I installed debian, because I wanted to learn more, so, I guess its serving its purpose |
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| 22:04.45 | Curalton | wakest: see the first part of /topic ;) |
| 22:12.32 | SimonRaven | FFS, when the kerberos breaks, it really breaks... |
| 22:18.55 | wakest | so, firefox |
| 22:19.14 | wakest | damn, I just want a good browser |
| 22:23.25 | Oryn | wakest: whats up? |
| 22:26.40 | Oryn | SimonRaven: you too? |
| 22:38.45 | wakest | it just doesn't start |
| 22:50.29 | Oryn | wakest: there's a trick ,its the initial startup thats broken |
| 22:50.44 | Oryn | wakest: there's a fix |
| 22:50.51 | Oryn | I had the same problem |
| 22:51.08 | Oryn | once firefox starts up its fine |
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| 22:54.12 | Oryn | wakest: try this: |
| 22:54.19 | Oryn | open an xterminal |
| 22:54.25 | Oryn | and run: |
| 22:54.34 | Oryn | firefox -safe-mode |
| 22:54.48 | Oryn | let it create your profile then exit |
| 22:54.55 | Oryn | then run it normaly |
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| 23:05.17 | lobico | hi |
| 23:05.24 | lobico | did someone here have a problem with 2.6.14-2-6 ? |
| 23:05.47 | lobico | in "GET bootloaders" |
| 23:05.51 | lobico | get frozen.. |
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| 23:30.01 | gall | How emulate mouse bottoms ? |
| 23:30.30 | Curalton | @3 mouse buttons |
| 23:30.37 | Curalton | ah, stupid ravenbird |
| 23:30.53 | gall | Curalton: Yes |
| 23:33.18 | Corsac | hmh, firefox 1.5 remote control doesnt work very well here |
| 23:33.36 | gall | In xfree86 |
| 23:33.38 | gall | xfce4 |
| 23:33.47 | Curalton | gall: anyhow, google for dev.mac_hid.mouse_button_emulation=1 |
| 23:33.58 | gall | dev/mac_hid/mouse_button_emulation = 1 |
| 23:33.58 | gall | dev/mac_hid/mouse_button2_keycode = 87 |
| 23:33.59 | gall | dev/mac_hid/mouse_button3_keycode = 88 |
| 23:34.06 | gall | I fount somethnk like this |
| 23:34.10 | Curalton | gall: on an ibook the values 97 and 100 work quite well, this are fn ctrl, and alt ctrl |
| 23:34.13 | Curalton | spam :/ |
| 23:34.41 | gall | dev/mac_hid or dev.mac_hid ? |
| 23:35.11 | Curalton | / or . doesnt matter |
| 23:35.27 | gall | ok |
| 23:35.34 | Curalton | moi je prefere les points |
| 23:36.18 | gall | And will work normal or with some bottoms from keyboard ? |
| 23:36.43 | Curalton | eh, with the buttons who's keycode you entered |
| 23:36.52 | wakest | Oryn, do you have to be in the firefox dir to run it like that? |
| 23:37.02 | gall | The right bottom doesn't work |
| 23:37.07 | Oryn | wakest: no |
| 23:37.07 | gall | ANd i had this in config. |
| 23:37.25 | gall | That will work normal or i must put left bottom and something like f12 |
| 23:37.25 | gall | ? |
| 23:37.41 | Oryn | wakest: so long as firefox is in the current path |
| 23:37.45 | Curalton | no, numbers |
| 23:38.02 | Curalton | i dont know the exact way how to get the numbers, i.e. keycodes |
| 23:38.12 | Oryn | wakest: did you build it yourself? or apt-get it? |
| 23:39.18 | gall | Curalton: run showkey |
| 23:39.19 | gall | Oryn: ? |
| 23:39.44 | Oryn | gall: huh? |
| 23:40.25 | Oryn | cya all m'off to bed |
| 23:40.47 | Curalton | eh, doesnt work here. fn + ctrl shows no output on showkey |
| 23:41.46 | Oryn | gall: do what I did, get a logitech optical mouse for a tenna |
| 23:42.13 | gall | I had logitech :> |
| 23:43.41 | Oryn | gall: way nicer than a mac mouse, plus its got a wheel |
| 23:44.04 | gall | how checkt by battery status ? |
| 23:44.31 | Oryn | gall: it stops working when the battery is flat ;P |
| 23:44.43 | gall | heh |
| 23:44.48 | Oryn | just look at the red light underneath |
| 23:45.10 | Oryn | the flashing changes when the battery is flat |
| 23:46.27 | gall | And really ? |
| 23:46.48 | johill | cat /proc/pmu/battery_0 |
| 23:47.25 | Oryn | gall: I'm talking about the mouse, are you talking about something else? |
| 23:47.32 | gall | Yes :> |
| 23:47.45 | Oryn | ahh, so you have a laptop then |
| 23:48.06 | gall | In the image kernel i don't had apm and all battery status program use this :> |
| 23:48.14 | johill | add apm emulation then ;) |
| 23:48.25 | johill | or use the gnome pmu monitor |
| 23:48.30 | johill | if you use gnome |
| 23:48.33 | Oryn | and use the very cool xbattbar |
| 23:49.38 | gall | johill: I use image kernel. |
| 23:49.50 | johill | tough then. compile your own |
| 23:50.20 | Q-FUNK | Oryn: it sounds like the place where batman might have a drink :-P |
| 23:50.21 | gall | What is the name od module CONFIG_PMAC_APM_EMU |
| 23:50.22 | gall | ? |
| 23:52.08 | gall | Ok i had :> |
| 23:53.51 | wakest | I got it from apt-get |
| 23:54.50 | gall | How use # $ % and something like that |