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00:50.08gallShow me someone /etc/sysctl.conf
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03:51.55dj-deathI got problems to compile mol on debian 2.6.14
03:52.48dondelelcarodj-death: first I have to ask why you're compiling it...
03:53.40dj-deathbecause there is no compiled modules for 2.6.14 kernel
03:55.31dj-deathdondelelcaro: is it a good reason ?
03:57.27dondelelcaroyou mean you want to compile the mol modules for the 2.6.14 kernel, right?
03:59.39dondelelcarodj-death: just apt-get install mol-modules-source kernel-package fakeroot; and then create a ~/modules directory, symlink /usr/src/mol-modules.tar.gz there, untar it, then MODULE_LOC=~/modules make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot [...] kernel_image modules_image;
04:00.55dj-deathright
04:01.40dj-deathwhy do I need to recompile kernel ??
04:08.52dondelelcaroyou don't, that's just the trivial method to do it if you're going to compile the kernel in the first place.
04:09.04dondelelcaroif you're just using a Debian kernel, use module-assistant or similar.
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06:56.31jgouldI have an issue with the debian installer.  I've tried both Sarge and Etch, and they do the same thing. Both will get as far as me selecting a language and keyboard layout then both sort of stop. Any one have any ideas?
06:58.04jgould2C2F2A
07:02.46SimonRaventry #debian-boot
07:02.58jgouldtnx SimonRaven
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08:16.38dondelelcarocould someone who has managed to get the bcm43xxx driver to work give me their kernel .config? [I keep having issues with __udelay]
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10:52.41Mark__TI have a problem with booting debian after I bootet into Mac OS X on my ibook
10:53.25Mark__Tit sais ALERT! /dev/hda3 does not exist. Dropped to a shell ( /dev/hda3 is my "/")
10:53.39Mark__TWhats the problem and how can I fix it?
10:54.22Mark__TI used one of the daily etch installers
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15:06.56dj-deathI'm experimenting strange problems with 2.6.14 on my ibook G4
15:07.16dj-deathlike xmms/beep-media-player/rhythmbox stopping playing
15:07.26dj-deathfreezing/crashing
15:07.38dj-deathit's quite random
15:07.52dj-deathand I dont have this problem with 2.6.12
15:08.09dj-deathno error message in /var/log/syslog or dmesg
15:08.42Oryndj-death: could it be a sound related problem?
15:09.02dj-deathwhat do you mean by sound ?
15:09.06dj-deathmp3/ogg files ?
15:09.38Oryndj-death: alsa was updated between 2.6.13 and 2.6.14
15:09.56dj-deathhmm
15:10.05dj-deaththis could explain the problem ...
15:10.43Orynassuming you are running alsa
15:10.51dj-deathyes I am
15:11.23Orynxmms is not the most stable of programs anyway
15:11.43dj-deathevery player have problem under 2.6.14
15:11.48dj-deathtotem
15:11.53dj-deathxine
15:11.53dj-deathrhythmbox
15:11.55dj-deathbmp
15:13.02dj-deathhmm
15:13.16dj-deathI have problem when writing the boot partition
15:13.24dj-deathsound stops
15:13.40dj-deathI never see that before
15:14.08dj-deathstrange ....
15:14.26dj-deathdisk access freeze everything
15:14.33Orynwhat sound hardware are you using?
15:15.05dj-deathibook G4
15:15.23Orynits own internal sound hardware?
15:15.29dj-deathyes
15:15.33Orynhmmm
15:16.01Orynsounds like a dma problem to me, see anything in /var/log/syslog?
15:16.35dj-deathnothing
15:16.45Orynoh
15:17.04Oryntried the sub patches? 2.6.14.4?
15:17.49dj-deathno
15:18.11dj-deathlets see changelog
15:20.21OrynI've not changed the kernel on my ppc bbox for ages
15:22.22dj-deathwhat is strange is using nautilus reading everywhre on the disk does not make problem ...
15:22.36dj-deathand writing a little boot partition does
15:23.11dj-deathnothing related to disk/ppc/alsa in 2.6.14.x
15:23.12Orynvery odd
15:23.32Orynwhat about in 2.6.13?
15:24.20dj-deathAuthor: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@g5.osdl.org>
15:24.21dj-deathDate:   Sat Dec 24 15:47:48 2005 -0800
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15:24.23dj-deathlol
15:24.32Orynhehe :)
15:28.42Corsac4:47AM..
15:28.47Corsacnot an hour for a commit :)
15:28.56Orynhuh?
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16:45.07SimonRaven@kernel
16:45.15ravenbirdLinux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.14.5, prepatch: 2.6.15-rc7, snapshot: 2.6.15-rc7-git1, 2.4: 2.4.32, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, 2.0: 2.0.40, -ac patch: 2.6.11-ac7, -mm patch: 2.6.15-rc5-mm3
16:45.28SimonRavenoh, 2.4.32
16:46.40Corsaci can't build 2.6.15-rc7
17:06.17Corsac<PROTECTED>
17:06.18Corsacarch/ppc/kernel/built-in.o: In function `swsusp_arch_resume': multiple definition of `machine_shutdown'
17:06.21Corsacarch/powerpc/kernel/built-in.o: first defined here
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17:33.49lobicohi
17:33.54lobicosomeone have a problem with kernel 2.6.14-2 6 ?
17:34.10lobicohere get frozen in GET bootloaders section, when configuring
17:34.36lobicoGET mkvmlinuz/bootloaders
17:34.37lobicohere
17:43.46Bor_EdI've got the same on every kernel
17:43.58lobicoevery kernel?
17:44.03Bor_Edyup
17:44.14lobicoand where is the problem?รง
17:44.25Bor_Edkernel-package or something similar
17:44.47lobicoyou dont know how to fix it?
17:45.08Bor_EdI got around it so haven't bothered to 'fix'
17:45.28lobicoI don't understand that
17:46.02Bor_EdI got the kernel installed and running, enough for me
17:46.47lobicommm
17:46.55lobicobut I cant install / uninstall anything
17:47.05lobicobecause it appears all the time
17:48.01Bor_Edhmm, I'll just ctrl+c on install when the postinstall pukes on the kernel thingy... other packages seem to get configured and installed right
17:48.52lobicoyes... but I dont like that
17:48.54lobico:)
17:49.16Bor_Edthen edit the postinstall script(s) that puke
17:49.43lobicommm
17:49.51lobicoI want a real solution :D
17:49.58lobicocleanly...
17:50.00Bor_Eddon't use sid :)
17:50.07lobicohehe.. I know
17:50.27lobicothis things make me doubt about using sid instead of sarge
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18:15.33*** topic/#debianppc is Debian on PPC - think of it as a never-ending IQ test. | current release: 2.6.14 | Wiki at tinyurl.com/2r8uc | Sarge released: 2005-06-06 | pasting? /whois paster | ALSA bounty: http://tinyurl.com/b44ls | PPC sound cards http://tinyurl.com/7lrrk | Airport Extreme driver: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/ and http://tinyurl.com/8dpmt and http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-409194.html
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18:18.15*** topic/#debianppc is Debian on PPC - think of it as a never-ending IQ test. | current release: 2.6.14 | Wiki at tinyurl.com/2r8uc | Sarge released: 2005-06-06 | pasting? /whois paster | ALSA bounty: http://tinyurl.com/b44ls | PPC sound cards http://tinyurl.com/7lrrk | Airport Extreme driver: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/ and http://tinyurl.com/8dpmt and http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-409194.html
18:41.13gallWho show me his source list ?
18:41.35gallWith some packages nor orginal from debian like skype mplayer
18:42.39SimonRaven@mplayer
18:42.40ravenbirddeb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main for the source, and deb http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/linux-ppc/debian/ mplayer/ for PPC .debs
18:43.00SimonRavenskype is just garbage
18:43.56Corsacthere are debian/ppc packages for skype ??
18:46.10gallravenbird: Doesn't work. I add to source list and made aptitide update and there are some problems.
18:46.10ravenbirdgall: what are you talking about?
18:46.42SimonRaven@tell gall -about doesn't work
18:47.54gallaptitide could not find package.
18:48.10gallravenbird: I use sarge.
18:48.10ravenbirdgall: are you using Windows?
18:48.31gallravenbird: I'm using linux about 5 year.
18:48.31ravenbirdparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, gall
18:48.57gallaptitide had problem with stat
18:50.20SimonRavencould you paste the error at http://channels.debian.net/paste ?
18:51.21gallravenbird: Ok it's working.
18:51.21ravenbirdno idea, gall
18:51.29gallDo you had some else servers ?
18:51.40SimonRavensec
18:52.13SimonRaven#deb http://honk.sigxcpu.org/linux-ppc/debian/ mplayer/
18:52.13SimonRaven#deb-src http://honk.sigxcpu.org/linux-ppc/debian/ mplayer/
18:52.29SimonRavenremove the comments ;)
18:52.38gallI need 2 of them /
18:52.39gall?
18:52.53SimonRaventhe second is for source ...
18:53.20gallOk but to use mplayer i ned only *.deb or deb and some sources.
18:54.06gallOk one more question.
18:54.08SimonRavenman apt-get ... deb-src is where you get the source package(s). it's not needed when you just want to get the binary package(s)
18:54.17SimonRavenman sources.list
18:54.31gallIn with package i find bunzip2 ?
18:54.47SimonRavenwhat?
18:55.06gallProgram to unpack *.bz2 files.
18:55.15gallLike gunzip for *.bz files.
18:55.38SimonRavenno, in the regular official debian repos you will
18:55.48SimonRavengz
18:56.10gallI debian i could not open bz2 files ?
18:56.43SimonRavenyou get bzip2...
18:57.18galluff
18:57.41gallOk and how add to my keyboard on powerbook 12" char
18:58.03gallI don't know name of this char but normal shift+3
18:58.21SimonRaven# is my sh+3
18:58.28gallYes :>
18:58.55SimonRavenit depends on the layout
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18:58.56gallhmm
18:59.04gallI had all without this :>
18:59.13gallSimonRaven: How change layout ?
18:59.26SimonRavenwhere, x or console
18:59.38gallIn all system :>
19:00.21SimonRavendpkg-reconfigure console-data ; dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 | xserver-org
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19:00.41SimonRaven(the last is dependet on whewther or not you're using xorg or xfree)
19:00.46SimonRavendependent*
19:01.48gallSimonRaven: What should i use in firsrt ?
19:01.58SimonRavenyour machine
19:02.17SimonRavenit doesn't matter
19:02.31gallOk i had
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20:26.13ingvarhadebian:~# cat /etc/debian_version ; grep ^machine /proc/cpuinfo; uname -a
20:26.14ingvarha3.1
20:26.14ingvarhamachine         : CHRP IBM,9124-720
20:26.14ingvarhaLinux debian 2.6.14-2-powerpc64 #2 SMP Wed Dec 21 22:33:21 UTC 2005 ppc64 GNU/Linux
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20:26.29ingvarhaSarge (32bits userspace) on IBM OpenPower 720 :-)
20:27.33Bor_Ednice work
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21:23.41gallDebian Sid works stable as SID ?
21:24.53Curaltonsid? sid is "unstable"
21:25.29gallI know. But my how unstable ?
21:26.14Curaltonit can break the whole system and then needs an experienced debianuser to fix it
21:26.50Curaltonotherwise better use stable or go for ubuntu/kubuntu
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23:46.58gallHad someone powerbook g4 12"
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