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| 00:22.56 | wakest | huh? |
| 00:28.05 | wakest | anyone here want to help ma trouble shoot getting firefox 1.5 to work |
| 00:28.08 | wakest | ? |
| 00:28.18 | Corsac | remote interface doesnt work ? |
| 00:28.32 | wakest | I don't know what that is? |
| 00:28.42 | Corsac | what's your problem ? |
| 00:30.29 | wakest | well, when I open it with tar it just opens the package, and when I try to open the exicutible, it doesn't do anything. |
| 00:31.07 | gall | noone had powerbook g4 12" ? |
| 00:31.27 | wakest | I have a 15" |
| 00:31.31 | wakest | why? |
| 00:31.50 | gall | I had problem with cooling |
| 00:32.11 | gall | Whet i charge the baterry my machiine is very hot on the left side |
| 00:32.51 | wakest | how hot? |
| 00:33.00 | gall | 40 C |
| 00:33.20 | wakest | eh, whats that in F? |
| 00:34.06 | wakest | they do get pretty hot |
| 00:34.39 | gall | powerbook:/home/ac# modprobe therm_adt746x |
| 00:34.39 | gall | FATAL: Error inserting therm_adt746x (/lib/modules/2.6.8-powerpc/kernel/drivers/macintosh/therm_adt746x.ko): No such device |
| 00:36.22 | gall | wakest: I don't know |
| 00:37.23 | wakest | sorry, I really don't know what would be wrong |
| 01:38.32 | dj-death | ? |
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| 08:06.12 | assassin | mmmm... just got a pb1400 |
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| 10:11.40 | pillage | has anyone here gotten 3d acceleration to work on a new powerbook? |
| 10:12.16 | johill | benh has ;) he says you need a new kernel (2.6.15-rc5 up or something, iirc) and a new xorg, but I don't remember what version he mentioend here |
| 10:13.05 | pillage | that would be about right :) I'm actually running gentoo but nobody is awake on that channel. |
| 10:13.46 | pillage | while I'm at it, have you also gotten your function keys to work? Or the airport extreme? |
| 10:14.10 | johill | well, I'm a reverse engineer on the airport extreme, so yeah |
| 10:14.19 | johill | and the function keys, there's a patch floating around for the kernel to support it |
| 10:14.20 | johill | sec |
| 10:14.31 | johill | https://hansmi.home.forkbomb.ch/public/usbhid-hook-try4.diff |
| 10:14.45 | johill | that was submitted for inclusion but it's still being discussed |
| 10:14.52 | pillage | wicked, thank you muchly |
| 10:15.15 | pillage | forgive my ignorance - but how do I apply a diff to the sources? |
| 10:15.20 | SimonRaven | next time be more patient on that channel |
| 10:15.43 | Corsac | johill: this patch for fn-key is the one that send RCtrl ? |
| 10:15.55 | Corsac | or the one using the new way in the new kernel, but needs a recent xorg ? |
| 10:16.04 | johill | Corsac: no, it does actual mappings in the kernel |
| 10:16.14 | johill | neither of the two |
| 10:17.46 | Corsac | what does it do ? |
| 10:18.05 | dondelelcaro | does someone have a working .config for the bcm43xx driver? |
| 10:18.24 | johill | well, if you press fn+f1 it sends KEY_BRIGHTNESSDOWN or something |
| 10:18.54 | Corsac | ok, so you need to tell pbbuttonsd about it for example ? |
| 10:19.15 | Corsac | i'll give it a try, it will be easier |
| 10:19.15 | Corsac | :) |
| 10:20.05 | johill | yeah, in pbbuttonsd you need to give the right codes, look in input.h for them |
| 10:21.03 | Corsac | by the way, did you manage to build -rc7 ? |
| 10:21.34 | SimonRaven | dondelelcaro: that'd be my guess too |
| 10:22.31 | Corsac | dondelelcaro: http://heracles.corsac.net/~corsac/dotconfig |
| 10:24.44 | Corsac | (it works but it may not be really optimised) |
| 10:29.04 | dondelelcaro | Corsac: cool, thanks. |
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| 10:54.08 | Corsac | arch/ppc/kernel/built-in.o: In function `__restore_cpu_setup': multiple definition of `machine_shutdown' |
| 10:54.12 | Corsac | arch/powerpc/kernel/built-in.o: first defined here |
| 10:54.37 | johill | Corsac: undef KEXEC |
| 10:54.58 | johill | just debugged this with svenl over in #mklinux, unless you need kexec (in which case you can probably fix it) take it out of your config |
| 10:55.13 | Corsac | hmh, where can I find this in menuconfig ? :) |
| 10:55.38 | johill | hit / and type KEXEC |
| 10:55.39 | johill | :) |
| 10:55.46 | Corsac | ! |
| 10:55.50 | Corsac | thanks :) |
| 10:56.10 | johill | :) |
| 10:56.33 | Corsac | oh yes |
| 10:56.39 | Corsac | i *really* don't need kexec |
| 10:57.36 | johill | eh. this is odd. debian's libfreetype makes a program I have here crash, but recompiling freetype makes it all work fine |
| 10:57.40 | SimonRaven | what's kexec again? |
| 10:58.08 | johill | exec() at the kernel level |
| 10:58.16 | johill | starting a new kernel instead of the current one |
| 10:58.32 | SimonRaven | johill: yeh, i did something similar to get heimdal 0.7.1 from sid to install, rebuilt cyrus-sasl2 with modified (and fixed up) build-deps and deps |
| 10:58.38 | SimonRaven | oh yeh... |
| 10:58.55 | johill | hm. what do I do then? file a bug-report on freetype with just 'please rebuild'? |
| 10:59.13 | SimonRaven | yeh, and explain why |
| 10:59.14 | johill | maybe there's some ABI problem between compiler versions? |
| 10:59.35 | johill | can I find out (from the build logs, for example) with which compiler it was built? |
| 10:59.39 | Corsac | maybe you built with gcc4 and it was built with gcc 3.4 |
| 10:59.39 | SimonRaven | the 4.x series is rather different |
| 10:59.41 | Corsac | (or vice versa) |
| 10:59.42 | SimonRaven | yes |
| 11:00.08 | johill | yeah I don't know what it was built with |
| 11:00.18 | johill | I'm using 4.0.3 |
| 11:00.22 | SimonRaven | for one thing it's pickier about stuff like non-signed (signed or unsigned) ints, and other stuff |
| 11:00.51 | johill | that shouldn't affect the abi should it? but some other things might, if the headers aren't good about it |
| 11:01.11 | SimonRaven | *nods* |
| 11:01.21 | johill | so. how do I find out what version it was built with? |
| 11:02.47 | johill | ah. build log |
| 11:02.49 | johill | gcc-3.3_1:3.3.6-6 |
| 11:02.51 | SimonRaven | there's the unofficial one, buildd.net, and you have the q&a site .debian.org sub-dom |
| 11:02.56 | SimonRaven | ah |
| 11:03.09 | johill | http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?&pkg=freetype&ver=2.1.10-1&arch=powerpc&stamp=1118748884&file=log&as=raw |
| 11:03.17 | SimonRaven | that's it |
| 11:03.20 | johill | Toolchain package versions: ... |
| 11:03.24 | johill | they thought of everything :) |
| 11:03.34 | SimonRaven | oh it's nice |
| 11:03.45 | johill | well, ok, I guess I'll try to figure out what the problem is |
| 11:04.28 | johill | and fix the headers if I can |
| 11:04.40 | johill | well, first to confirm by building with gcc-3.3 myself |
| 11:05.50 | johill | hmm |
| 11:05.51 | SimonRaven | i guess voltaire or whatever ppc buildd has sarge installed |
| 11:05.56 | johill | segfaults too |
| 11:06.00 | SimonRaven | heh |
| 11:06.38 | johill | odd. I'll try to rebuild freetype with gcc 3.3 and the program with 4 just to see ;) |
| 11:07.19 | SimonRaven | i started seeing that sort of thing some months ago; i was building netatalk, and had 3.2 or 3.3 installed, and the build would puke. then i installed 3.4 or changed some symlinks, and the build worked |
| 11:07.31 | SimonRaven | :) |
| 11:07.36 | johill | heh |
| 11:08.12 | SimonRaven | or vice-versa, build with 4.x, and the code wouldn't build (bit rot) |
| 11:08.27 | johill | uh. nice :/ |
| 11:08.53 | SimonRaven | hehe, not really :) |
| 11:09.36 | johill | now, if it works after compiling the lib with 3.3 and the tool with 4.0, I'll give up ;) |
| 11:10.27 | johill | works. I give up |
| 11:12.08 | SimonRaven | eh |
| 11:12.50 | johill | heck. it even works with the debian package when I don't build the program statically |
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| 11:16.42 | SimonRaven | weird |
| 11:18.29 | johill | yeah. I've now tried all 4 combinations of compilers and all worked statically |
| 11:18.50 | johill | except the freetype version in the archive with gcc 4 |
| 11:18.55 | johill | let me try that with gcc 3.3 |
| 11:19.27 | johill | also segfaults |
| 11:19.54 | SimonRaven | talk about fucked |
| 11:20.14 | johill | yeh |
| 11:20.26 | johill | no idea what to do except ask for a rebuild |
| 11:24.00 | Corsac | johill: ok, the patch works, but i don't really understand why Fn+arrows doesn't send the right keycodes |
| 11:24.33 | johill | they do for me |
| 11:24.37 | Corsac | for example Fn+left arrow sends 97 instead of 100 |
| 11:24.57 | johill | it should, that's "home" |
| 11:25.05 | Corsac | home is 97 or 100 ? |
| 11:25.12 | johill | home is 97, 100 is left |
| 11:26.47 | Corsac | http://paste.debian.net/3415 |
| 11:26.55 | Corsac | first is left, second is fn+left |
| 11:27.04 | Corsac | (maybe it's a keymap problem ?) |
| 11:27.26 | johill | yeah |
| 11:27.28 | johill | keycode 97 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol) |
| 11:27.36 | Corsac | ok |
| 11:27.40 | johill | I get |
| 11:27.41 | johill | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:28.11 | Corsac | if I use Alt+Leftarrow i get keycode 100 (keysym 0xff50, Home) |
| 11:28.20 | johill | heh |
| 11:28.27 | johill | yes |
| 11:28.37 | johill | that's because X maps the 100 + alt to Home |
| 11:28.47 | johill | but it should (also) map just 97 to Home |
| 11:28.57 | Corsac | ok i'll check the keymap |
| 11:28.59 | johill | it doesn't mean that 100 is Home |
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| 11:35.29 | Corsac | ok it works |
| 11:35.31 | Corsac | thanks :) |
| 11:45.48 | Corsac | johill: what keycodes do you get with fn+f1/f2 ? |
| 11:46.29 | johill | eh not sure, but let me look in my pbbuttonsd.conf |
| 11:46.43 | johill | 224/225 for it |
| 11:46.46 | johill | x messes up tho |
| 11:47.47 | Corsac | mpf |
| 11:48.05 | Corsac | i get 101/212 =/ |
| 11:48.09 | johill | yeah in X |
| 11:48.10 | Corsac | (and it doesnt work in pbbuttonsd |
| 11:48.11 | johill | try showkey |
| 11:48.12 | Corsac | ) |
| 11:48.20 | johill | in the console |
| 11:48.28 | Corsac | ok |
| 11:48.31 | johill | try 224/255 in pbbuttonsd.conf |
| 11:48.34 | johill | should work |
| 11:48.41 | Corsac | (if i can get a console :/) |
| 11:49.16 | Corsac | ok that's work |
| 11:50.25 | Corsac | hmh, i really got some keymaps problems |
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| 12:01.33 | Corsac | johill: could I ask what keymap are you using ? |
| 12:01.41 | johill | how do I find out? |
| 12:01.49 | Corsac | in your xorg.conf ? |
| 12:01.57 | Corsac | xkbrules/model/layout |
| 12:02.03 | Corsac | (you're on a powerbook g4 ?) |
| 12:02.06 | johill | yea |
| 12:02.23 | Corsac | with a qwerty keyboard i guess ? |
| 12:02.36 | johill | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:02.36 | johill | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:02.36 | johill | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:02.44 | johill | but I doubt that is what I'm using |
| 12:02.57 | johill | well, maybe it is |
| 12:03.21 | johill | if it is, then it's some /me-specific hacked up version of Stelian Pop's kbmap |
| 12:04.10 | Corsac | mine is a french one built from here: http://seehuhn.de/comp/powerbook/index#keyboard |
| 12:04.19 | Corsac | but I guess there are some errors |
| 12:04.39 | johill | oh right, it wasn't stelian, it was jochen |
| 12:05.07 | johill | gotta go for a bit, bbl |
| 12:05.16 | Corsac | bye |
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| 12:17.12 | Corsac | i have a weird problem between my keymap and xfwm4 |
| 12:37.41 | dj-death | ok ok ok |
| 12:38.00 | dj-death | I now understand why my audio players segfaults |
| 12:38.29 | dj-death | Dec 28 13:33:58 localhost kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 8843 (beep-media-play). |
| 12:39.07 | dj-death | it seems that something in alsa has a huge memory leak |
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| 13:35.23 | witch | Hi! |
| 13:35.51 | witch | Does anybody know how to make a shutdown on mac mini with power button? |
| 13:37.08 | witch | on my old computer I have an ACPI event |
| 13:37.24 | johill | eek. acpi |
| 13:37.29 | johill | go away ;) |
| 13:37.35 | johill | use pbbuttonsd |
| 13:37.55 | johill | the power button on the mac mini is via the pmu like on the powerbook, afaik |
| 13:39.31 | Mark__T | I need some help with my iBook |
| 13:39.36 | johill | you can find the details using google with the keywords 'pmu power button pbbuttonsd' |
| 13:40.49 | Mark__T | it sais "ALERT! /dev/hda3 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!" when I try to boot debian after I used OS X |
| 13:45.01 | Mark__T | hda3 is my "/" I have 5 partitions "/" "/home" "swap", "Apple bootstrap" and 1 for Mac OS |
| 13:45.37 | witch | hmm... I have no /dev/pmu with the default kernel |
| 13:52.50 | gall | I won't to install Mac OS X Tiger |
| 13:52.58 | gall | But i had i yaboot only debian |
| 13:53.04 | gall | How boot form the cdrom? |
| 13:53.29 | gall | I must press some bootom on start or what ? |
| 14:00.54 | Mark__T | c |
| 14:01.20 | Mark__T | ? |
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| 14:21.54 | gall | DVD with upgrade do 10,4 had all system. |
| 14:22.11 | gall | How install Mac OX Tiger form upgrade cd ? |
| 14:22.26 | Corsac | ask on osxppc ? :) |
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| 14:25.44 | Corsac | re johill |
| 14:28.01 | johill_ | hrm. my own code probably keeps hanging this machine... stupid airport extreme |
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| 15:49.48 | johill | suckers! turns out that the freetype thing is actually a libc bug |
| 15:50.07 | johill | libfreetype.a was built against 2.3.4, and I'm now using 2.3.5 |
| 15:50.16 | johill | the code uses setjmp() which uses stack space |
| 15:50.31 | johill | the amount of stack space was taken from 2.3.4, but now it links in code from 2.3.5 which assumes more space |
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| 15:52.06 | cees | Hi, I can't get the photos from my SD card. The window asking me for import is ok, but when I accept nothing is done. Debian testing, Ibook G4 |
| 15:52.09 | johill | brb, gotta reboot new kernel |
| 15:54.04 | cees | Hi, I cant compile the bcm43xx driver, kernel 2.6.15.rc5 , ibook g4 |
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| 16:18.43 | _rene_ | wow. what a full-flavoured description of a actual problem... |
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| 16:41.51 | witch | Hi! |
| 16:42.52 | witch | I want my firewire disk automatically be mounted when plugged in. What do I need for that? mounting manually works well. |
| 16:48.33 | Corsac | use a volume manager |
| 16:48.39 | Corsac | like gnome-volume-manager |
| 16:48.45 | Corsac | (or something equivalent in kde) |
| 16:48.55 | Corsac | i don't know other independants projects, if any |
| 16:53.39 | witch | not for X |
| 16:54.57 | witch | Linux != Xfree |
| 17:12.21 | _rene_ | Xfree isn't Linux' X anyway anymore (except a few broken or old exceptions) |
| 17:13.11 | _rene_ | witch: there's usbmount, but I don't know something already there for fw... |
| 17:15.06 | witch | Isn't Usbmount for usb devices only? |
| 17:17.16 | _rene_ | that's what I just said :) |
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| 17:19.21 | cees | hi, an error message when I compile bc43xx driver : net/ieeexxx ... No such file or directory. Someone help me' |
| 17:20.22 | _rene_ | god damnit |
| 17:20.44 | _rene_ | give enough info to help you. if I wouldn't know what the error here is I wold have no info to help you |
| 17:21.06 | _rene_ | anyway, you miss the wlan stack support in your kernel. enable it.. |
| 17:23.14 | cees | _rene_: I have 2.6.15.rc5, with ieee80211 build in and the other 3 modules on |
| 17:23.44 | _rene_ | you evidently haven't. otherwise it would have built and found the headers |
| 17:23.54 | cees | _rene_: debian testing, ibook G4 |
| 17:24.03 | _rene_ | you of course need the source/headers available.. |
| 17:24.14 | _rene_ | cees: debian unstable, ibook g4, works fine... |
| 17:25.29 | _rene_ | did you keep the kernel sourcetree? |
| 17:25.45 | _rene_ | you need to do that. |
| 17:25.53 | _rene_ | anyway, you also want to install softmac anyway |
| 17:25.59 | _rene_ | maybe you missed that |
| 17:27.12 | cees | _rene_: I recently build my kernel: CONFIG IEEE80211=y, CONFIG IEEE80211=debug is not set, CONFIG IEEE80211_CRYPT_WEP=m, CONFIG IEEE80211_CRYPT_CCMO=m whats worng? |
| 17:27.48 | _rene_ | you evidently don't listen to me and won't answer my questions so I will do more useful stuff now |
| 17:29.50 | cees | _rene_: sorry, I dont understood, my english is so bad. How can I enabe the wlan stack? |
| 17:30.14 | _rene_ | you did already |
| 17:30.19 | _rene_ | but as you didn' |
| 17:30.28 | _rene_ | but as you didn't answer my other questions..... |
| 17:30.35 | _rene_ | 18:25 < _rene_> did you keep the kernel sourcetree? |
| 17:30.36 | _rene_ | 18:25 < _rene_> you need to do that. |
| 17:30.36 | _rene_ | 18:25 < _rene_> anyway, you also want to install softmac anyway |
| 17:30.36 | _rene_ | 18:25 < _rene_> maybe you missed that |
| 17:31.28 | cees | _rene_: how I know if I keep the kernel sourcetree? |
| 17:32.08 | _rene_ | err? |
| 17:32.16 | _rene_ | use your brain? your memory? |
| 17:32.25 | _rene_ | did you remove it? did you not? |
| 17:32.29 | _rene_ | why are you asking that *me*? |
| 17:34.41 | cees | _rene_: I try mean is there some way to view/read/load/etc the kernel sourcetree?. If my question is stupid, I am so sorry |
| 17:35.50 | cees | _rene_: I did install the ieeesoftmac, and the firmware AppleAirport2 from my machine too |
| 17:39.17 | cees | _rene_: sorry man, thanks for your time. |
| 17:41.22 | _rene_ | the driver isn't yet really usable anyway, so... |
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| 18:04.51 | Corsac | mpf |
| 18:04.59 | Corsac | softmac doesnt build with -rc7 |
| 18:05.03 | johill | it does for me |
| 18:05.05 | johill | I'm running it |
| 18:05.12 | johill | you may want to update your code (hg pull, hg update) |
| 18:05.17 | johill | it fixes a bunch of oopses ;) |
| 18:05.27 | johill | in fact, if it wouldn't work, I couldn't be online |
| 18:05.39 | Corsac | include/linux/highmem.h:12:25: error: asm/highmem.h: No such file or directory |
| 18:05.42 | Corsac | "duh" |
| 18:06.52 | johill | hm |
| 18:07.03 | johill | (why does it include highmem in the first place?) |
| 18:07.05 | johill | let me see |
| 18:07.13 | johill | it doesn't |
| 18:07.29 | johill | arch=powerpc or arch=ppc? |
| 18:10.07 | Corsac | where should i see ? |
| 18:10.27 | johill | did you pass ARCH=powerpc when compiling the kernel? |
| 18:10.43 | Corsac | i didn't pass anything |
| 18:10.55 | Corsac | i compiled it with make-kpkg kernel-image |
| 18:11.30 | johill | then arch=ppc |
| 18:11.34 | johill | I did the same thing |
| 18:11.41 | johill | are you sure you're building against the same kernel you're running? |
| 18:11.46 | Corsac | yes |
| 18:11.53 | johill | that's odd then |
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| 18:18.49 | Genosse_El | Does somebody know where to get woody images for ppc |
| 18:20.58 | Bor_Ed | ftp://ftp.fi.debian.org still has them I think |
| 18:22.03 | Bor_Ed | or not... at least it has the installer floppies and the tree |
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| 18:56.59 | Corsac | johill: i'm rebuilding my kernel without highmem support |
| 18:57.08 | johill | no need, I have highmem |
| 18:57.14 | johill | so it surely works |
| 18:57.20 | johill | must be something else |
| 18:57.23 | Corsac | hmhm |
| 18:57.50 | Corsac | corsac@hidalgo: cd asm [linux-2.6.15-rc7/include/linux] |
| 18:57.53 | Corsac | cd: no such file or directory: asm |
| 18:58.13 | Corsac | where should be asm/highmem.h ? :/ |
| 18:58.13 | johill | not in linux, just in include |
| 18:58.53 | Corsac | ok, there is no highmem.h in include/asm, that's right |
| 18:59.24 | johill | there should be |
| 18:59.27 | johill | what does asm point to |
| 18:59.40 | Corsac | lrwxrwxrwx 1 corsac src 11 2005-12-28 19:26 asm -> asm-powerpc |
| 18:59.48 | johill | aha, so you did compile for powerpc |
| 19:00.00 | Corsac | it's not my fault !! |
| 19:00.04 | johill | and indeed there is no highmem in there |
| 19:00.07 | johill | that's odd though |
| 19:00.23 | johill | what version of the kernel-package are you using? |
| 19:00.38 | Corsac | 10.026 |
| 19:01.10 | johill | so am I |
| 19:01.10 | johill | hmm |
| 19:01.15 | johill | have you hacked on it? |
| 19:01.27 | Corsac | on kernel-package or kernel ? |
| 19:01.32 | johill | package |
| 19:01.37 | Corsac | nop |
| 19:02.27 | Corsac | in 2.6.15-rc6 asm pointed to asm-ppc |
| 19:02.57 | johill | eh. that's weird |
| 19:03.20 | johill | they didn't change the default, and kernel-package uses ARCH=ppc anyway |
| 19:03.32 | johill | so you shouldn't have this, unless you mucked around passing ARCH=powerpc at some oint |
| 19:03.34 | johill | point even |
| 19:05.11 | johill | I think I can only suggest you rebuild the kernel |
| 19:05.25 | Corsac | ok |
| 19:05.36 | johill | from a fresh source tree though |
| 19:05.41 | Corsac | ok |
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| 19:15.11 | Corsac | /usr/bin/make ARCH=powerpc \ |
| 19:15.20 | Corsac | (with a fresh tree) |
| 19:16.03 | johill | interesting |
| 19:16.10 | johill | try forcing it to ppc (--arch=ppc?) |
| 19:16.33 | Corsac | exec debian/rules DEBIAN_REVISION=2.6.15-rc7-10.00.Custom KPKG_ARCH=ppc kernel-image |
| 19:16.37 | Corsac | unknown Debian architecture ppc, you must specify GNU system type, too at /usr/bin/dpkg-architecture line 214. |
| 19:16.42 | Corsac | =/ |
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| 19:17.17 | johill | hmm |
| 19:17.19 | johill | that really is odd |
| 19:17.33 | johill | you sure didn't play around with the kernel-package stuff like I once described on the mailing list? |
| 19:17.58 | Corsac | i'm pretty sure, but i'll purge and reinstall |
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| 19:21.03 | Corsac | johill: which dpkg-dev do you have ? |
| 19:21.23 | johill | 1.13.11 |
| 19:21.53 | Corsac | same here |
| 19:23.50 | Corsac | B_BUILD_ARCH=powerpc |
| 19:24.58 | Corsac | johill: what does /usr/bin/dpkg-architecture do ? |
| 19:26.22 | johill | all powerpc |
| 19:26.32 | Corsac | ok, same here |
| 19:27.45 | johill | I dunno, really. svenl, do you know more about the kernel-package? |
| 19:28.36 | Corsac | why should we have ARC=ppc if dpkg-architecture says powerpc ? |
| 19:29.02 | johill | because kernel-package is supposed to mess around with it replacing ppc, since powerpc is relatively new in the kernel |
| 19:29.27 | johill | there used to be ppc and ppc64, now there's ppc (32 bit) and powerpc (32 and 64 bit), while ppc is being deprecated it still seems to work better |
| 19:31.22 | Corsac | mhh |
| 19:32.36 | Corsac | http://paste.debian.net/3429 |
| 19:33.05 | johill | hm |
| 19:43.09 | Corsac | (that kernel curses me) |
| 19:43.10 | Corsac | (=/) |
| 19:43.30 | Corsac | no suspend with blutooth, a strange arch... |
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| 20:22.38 | svenl | hi. |
| 20:22.54 | Q-FUNK | hi svenl |
| 20:22.54 | svenl | anyone with ppc64 hardware around ? |
| 20:22.58 | svenl | hi Q-FUNK ... |
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| 20:49.57 | Corsac | svenl: ? |
| 20:50.47 | svenl | Corsac: i am trying to build debian 2.6.15-rc7 -powerpc64, but i get warnings of the kind : |
| 20:51.14 | svenl | ld: drivers/built-in.o section .init.text exceeds stub |
| 20:51.14 | svenl | 21:45 < svenl> group size |
| 20:51.35 | svenl | and i don't know if this is harmless or not. |
| 20:52.15 | Corsac | i'm trying to build 2.6.15-rc7 -ppc |
| 20:52.21 | Corsac | and it doesnt want too |
| 20:52.22 | Corsac | :/ |
| 20:52.50 | svenl | Corsac: 32bit powerpc ? |
| 20:53.03 | svenl | from the debian kernel and with make-kpkg ? |
| 20:53.15 | Corsac | yes |
| 20:53.34 | Corsac | http://paste.debian.net/3429 |
| 20:53.40 | svenl | i just did, works fine, needs a make-kpkg 10.027 available tomorrow. |
| 20:53.52 | Corsac | (and if i don't precise arch=ppc it uses powerpc) |
| 20:53.59 | svenl | yeah. |
| 20:54.02 | svenl | i know. |
| 20:54.29 | svenl | like said, kernel-package 10.027 will fix this. |
| 20:54.30 | Corsac | ok |
| 20:54.30 | Corsac | it's in incoming ? |
| 20:55.35 | svenl | no. |
| 20:55.40 | svenl | will be uploaded tomorrow. |
| 20:55.44 | Corsac | :( |
| 20:56.14 | svenl | i am uploading architecture.mk and powerpc.mk to people.debian.org/~luther, just replace them with those i provide (/usr/share/kernel-package/ruleset and ruleset/arches). |
| 20:56.25 | Corsac | ok |
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| 21:22.54 | nefertum | p |
| 21:24.32 | Corsac | svenl: should I pass -arch=ppc or not ? |
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| 21:37.32 | dikae | I've got an old Mac 8500 that I'm turning into a Debian-powered fileserver. I want to be able to mount an HFS partition (which I can do easily enough) and then share it with NFS, but it's giving me problems. Does anyone here know anything about that? |
| 21:38.31 | svenl | Corsac: nope. |
| 21:38.37 | svenl | just --flavour powerpc should do. |
| 21:38.41 | dikae | Specifically: if I mount the volume on the server first, the client doesn't have permission to mount it with nfs. If I mount it first with nfs and then mount the volume to that directory, it doesn't show up as mounted on the client. |
| 21:39.25 | svenl | Corsac: --arch is for cross compiling, and means the debian arch (the one dpkg knows about) and not the kernel ARCH= one. |
| 21:39.31 | Corsac | ok |
| 21:40.00 | Corsac | subarch ? |
| 21:40.09 | svenl | err, yes, sorry. |
| 21:56.05 | SimonRaven | dikae: just play with 'user' or 'users' option in fstab (man mount; man fstab) |
| 21:56.17 | SimonRaven | dikae: on the client side |
| 21:58.52 | svenl | Corsac: ah, it seems 10.027 is in incoming ... |
| 21:59.04 | Corsac | ok |
| 21:59.14 | Corsac | (i'm currently building with your patches) |
| 22:00.09 | svenl | i don't think there will be much difference, as i think Manoj included those patches. I built both 2.6.14 and 2.6.15 with it, and it seems ok. |
| 22:01.08 | svenl | Corsac: and yes, the error you pasted is not a bug but a feature, it comes from using --arch for something it was not meant to do, namely putting the ARCH= var. |
| 22:01.35 | Corsac | svenl: ok |
| 22:01.59 | johill | my mistake, svenl |
| 22:02.00 | johill | sorry |
| 22:02.12 | svenl | johill: huh ? |
| 22:02.19 | svenl | johill: you suggested --arch to Corsac ? |
| 22:02.29 | johill | well I said something along the lines of that --arch might do that |
| 22:02.32 | svenl | johill: i actually made the exact same mistake myself. |
| 22:02.35 | johill | didn't actually check |
| 22:02.56 | svenl | johill: yeah, seemed obvious, but it is only for checking the debian arch against the host and handle cross-compiling. |
| 22:03.28 | dikae | SimonRaven, well I'm doing all this as root for now (root on both machines) |
| 22:03.37 | Corsac | does someone use a bluetooth mouse, by the way ? |
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| 22:06.08 | johill | I hope that crc8 is settled now |
| 22:06.12 | johill | uh. sorry. wrong channel |
| 22:17.45 | johill | anyone using maxima? it keeps segfaulting |
| 22:19.50 | dikae | ok I'm ready to give up... is there maybe just a way I could mount an ext3 partition on the Mac? |
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| 22:56.42 | Corsac | hmh |
| 22:57.01 | Corsac | johill: event with your patch i don't have an highmem.h in asm-powerpc |
| 22:57.03 | Corsac | even* |
| 22:57.14 | johill | what patch? no patch should add that |
| 22:57.37 | Corsac | hmh |
| 22:57.56 | Corsac | sorry, not the patch, the files from svenl :/ |
| 23:18.20 | dikae | I'm having trouble with hfsplus utils. I'm trying to run hpmount, but it's telling me "Neither Wrapper nor native HFS+ volume header found (Unkown error 4294967295)" parted confirms that /dev/sda4 is indeed hfs+. I also couldn't mount -t hpfs, though hpfs is in /proc/filesystems. Anyone know what this could be? |
| 23:19.06 | johill | mount -t hfsplus |
| 23:19.09 | johill | hpfs is something else |
| 23:19.24 | dikae | oh. well color me stupid :) |
| 23:19.44 | johill | well, wasn't too hard though looking at the kernel config ;_ |
| 23:19.48 | johill | "OS/2 HPFS file system support" |
| 23:20.16 | dikae | I don't know about kernel configs :( sorry |
| 23:20.27 | johill | modinfo hpfs |
| 23:20.37 | dikae | as I mounted it, it said "HFS+ create hidden dir..." |
| 23:20.52 | dikae | is that bad? everything seems to be ok... |
| 23:22.00 | Corsac | hmh, frequently when I mount hfs+ parts, it's mounted read only, and i can't check it, the only way to remount it rw is to try hpmount (which fails) |
| 23:22.05 | Corsac | is there another way ? |
| 23:22.14 | johill | make it non-journaled in osx, or something |
| 23:22.56 | Corsac | k |
| 23:22.58 | dikae | Corsac, I read about that somewhere online... it's something like mount copping out on hfsplus after 32 mounts. hpmount is supposed to reset it, but if that fails I don't know... |
| 23:23.00 | Corsac | i'll try |
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| 23:50.42 | pdr- | somebody has installed debian on a powerbook 12" ? |
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| 23:59.55 | Corsac | johill: it's not journaled |