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| 00:07.40 | rilat | hi |
| 00:10.38 | rilat | When I do an apt-get update I get W: GPG error: http://ftp.es.debian.org sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 00908312D230C5F |
| 00:10.46 | rilat | any idea? |
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| 00:12.25 | _rene_ | yes, import that key. |
| 00:17.12 | *** mode/#DebianPPC [+o simonrvn] by ChanServ |
| 00:17.24 | *** topic/#DebianPPC by simonrvn -> Debian on PPC - think of it as a never-ending IQ test. | current release: 2.6.14 | Wiki at tinyurl.com/2r8uc | Sarge released: 2005-06-06 | pasting? /whois paster | ALSA bounty: http://tinyurl.com/b44ls | PPC sound cards http://tinyurl.com/7lrrk | Airport Extreme driver: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/ and http://tinyurl.com/8dpmt and http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-409194.html | PUBLIC KEY NOT AVAILABLE? /msg ravenbird 2006 key |
| 00:17.30 | *** mode/#DebianPPC [-o simonrvn] by simonrvn |
| 00:17.35 | simonrvn | :) |
| 00:18.00 | simonrvn | doh! s/he left. it'll be useful for others |
| 00:21.32 | _rene_ | hmm. it apparently doesn't |
| 00:32.21 | simonrvn | doesn't what? |
| 00:33.03 | simonrvn | @2006 key |
| 00:33.04 | ravenbird | run: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F ; gpg --export 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F | sudo apt-key add -; |
| 00:36.29 | _rene_ | simonrvn: X.org 6.9 and radeon DRI |
| 00:36.38 | simonrvn | aah |
| 00:36.43 | _rene_ | simonrvn: wondered about that before you joined |
| 00:36.49 | simonrvn | ok |
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| 02:28.06 | dj-death | plop |
| 02:28.24 | Joersch | plap |
| 02:34.03 | dj-death | wrong channel |
| 02:38.37 | Joersch | if you say so |
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| 04:55.49 | pillage | anyone here have alsa working on a powerbook? |
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| 11:35.46 | rilat | &l |
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| 11:37.28 | rilat | Hi there. I try to isntall xbase-clients package and that package depends on an unexisting package libdps1. any idea? |
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| 11:44.03 | pahartik | rilat: "apt-show-versions libdps1" tells that i have "libdps1/testing uptodate 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11" |
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| 12:16.35 | rilatto | hi again... |
| 12:46.06 | rilatto | anyone there? |
| 12:47.11 | TBBle | Here? |
| 12:51.37 | rilatto | TBBle yeah, more or less... |
| 12:52.02 | rilatto | I'm having problems installing xbase-clients package... |
| 12:52.21 | TBBle | And it's PPC-specific? |
| 12:52.35 | rilatto | It depends on an unexisting package libdps1 |
| 12:52.44 | rilatto | TBBle I guess so... |
| 12:53.02 | TBBle | Weird. My laptop was working earlier... Are you on etch? |
| 12:53.20 | rilatto | TBBle sid |
| 12:53.41 | rilatto | but I think with etch would be the same..... |
| 12:53.53 | rilatto | any idea? |
| 12:54.22 | TBBle | apt-cache policy libdps1? |
| 12:55.20 | rilatto | lets see... |
| 12:56.50 | rilatto | hmm: |
| 12:56.52 | rilatto | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:56.53 | rilatto | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:57.35 | TBBle | Fascinating. |
| 12:57.42 | TBBle | If only packages.debian.org wasn't down... |
| 12:57.50 | rilatto | hmm.... but it is... |
| 12:58.58 | TBBle | Uh, try apt-get update again... xbase-clients doesn't depend on libdps1 anymore. |
| 12:59.18 | rilatto | TBBle eh? ok let's see... |
| 12:59.25 | TBBle | In fact, libdps1 has been dropped from the X packages completely, which is why it doesn't exist. |
| 13:00.29 | rilatto | TBBle I read so... |
| 13:00.38 | rilatto | Can I paste tow lines? |
| 13:00.46 | TBBle | Doesn't worry me |
| 13:00.51 | rilatto | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 13:00.51 | rilatto | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:01.12 | TBBle | apt-cache policy xbase-clients... What's the candidate? |
| 13:01.26 | rilatto | no: apt-get install xbase-clients |
| 13:01.59 | rilatto | TBBle candidate: (none) |
| 13:02.15 | rilatto | aha.. sorry forget about that... |
| 13:02.22 | rilatto | hold on... |
| 13:03.32 | rilatto | TBBle apt-cache policy xbase-clients: Candidate: 6.8.2.dfsg.1-11 |
| 13:03.37 | rilatto | that's it |
| 13:04.40 | TBBle | Yeah. 6.9's in the archive now. You need to apt-get update again, or if that doesn't fix it, change mirrors. (I noticed the two .au mirrors I use have been boned recently) |
| 13:05.34 | rilatto | TBBle I'll try to change mirrors bcos apt-get update does nothing... 5 sec |
| 13:07.16 | rilatto | let's see if i'm lucky with .au even though it's on the other side of the world... |
| 13:07.56 | TBBle | No, the .au ones are bad. I'm on ftp.debian.org now. |
| 13:08.31 | rilatto | TBBle let's again... ftp.debain.org ok... |
| 13:10.23 | rilatto | no luck ither.... |
| 13:11.16 | rilatto | can I force to intall the package xbase-clients despite the missing package libdps1? |
| 13:11.41 | TBBle | Nope. |
| 13:12.01 | TBBle | You're on PPC, right? |
| 13:12.12 | rilatto | TBBle so that means I cannot install the X system? |
| 13:13.05 | rilatto | --force-yes is not a good idea, as i read at apt-get man's page... |
| 13:14.05 | TBBle | You need to find a more up-to-date mirror. |
| 13:15.24 | TBBle | ftp.uk.debian.org looks up to date |
| 13:15.38 | rilatto | TBBle but I'm having this problem since yesterday night, say 12h ago... shouldn't it be repaired? |
| 13:15.49 | rilatto | ok once again... |
| 13:16.15 | TBBle | I dunno. ftp.debian.org works for me, so I dunno why it doesn't for you. Unluckiness on the DNS round-robin maybe. |
| 13:17.10 | rilatto | TBBle ok, thanks any way. Do you think the problem is transient? |
| 13:17.39 | rilatto | no luck with .uk either |
| 13:19.09 | rilatto | well anyway, i'll keep on reading on the web and wait until tomorrow... what else can I do... |
| 13:19.16 | rilatto | thanks very much |
| 13:20.40 | TBBle | What's your apt.sources line? |
| 13:21.19 | TBBle | Ah, wait, I'm an idiot. |
| 13:21.42 | rilatto | deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib |
| 13:22.06 | TBBle | It's not built for PowerPC. They didn't use my manifest fixes in the first 6.9 release, so it failed autobuilding. And the -2 release only just hit the mirrors, so it's not yet had time to autobuild. |
| 13:22.14 | TBBle | So you'll just have to wait. |
| 13:22.32 | rilatto | aha... |
| 13:22.39 | TBBle | I wonder why my PowerBook reported an xorg upgrade... Maybe an architecture-independant package was upgraded. I didn't think to look. |
| 13:25.34 | TBBle | http://buildd.debian.org/build.php?arch=&pkg=xorg-x11 Well, it's built. Just not yet in the archive. |
| 13:25.51 | rilatto | so? |
| 13:27.20 | TBBle | Wait. |
| 13:27.22 | TBBle | ^_^ |
| 13:27.30 | rilatto | ;) |
| 13:36.47 | rilatto | is it possible to wget from somewhere without to wait to be put in the archive? |
| 13:42.02 | TBBle | Umm... I doubt it. If the upload's gone, it might be in incoming or something, but you'd prolly need to be a DD to get to it. If the buildd admin's not uploaded it, then you can't. |
| 13:43.33 | rilatto | aha... how long do you think it can take to be available? |
| 13:44.03 | TBBle | It's an important, and popular package. I reckon it'll already be in incoming waiting for the mirror pulse. |
| 13:44.54 | TBBle | Type "aye" if you love free pizza |
| 13:44.58 | TBBle | Ooops |
| 13:45.09 | rilatto | ;) |
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| 13:59.13 | rilatto | I run out of battery.... |
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| 15:13.20 | Flimzy | I'm having a very hard time getting these bcm43xx drivers to work... I can see some wireless networks... I can put the card in monitor mode, and scan 3 networks... none of them are encrypted |
| 15:13.25 | Flimzy | but I cannot connect to any of them |
| 15:14.16 | Flimzy | dhclient says 'network is down' |
| 15:14.16 | Flimzy | what might I be doing wrong? |
| 15:14.33 | TBBle | Are you using today's version of the drivers/dscape stack etc? |
| 15:15.05 | TBBle | Did you use the sta_up script? |
| 15:15.51 | Flimzy | the version I'm using is about 3 days old |
| 15:15.57 | Flimzy | I'm not familiar with the sta_up script |
| 15:16.43 | TBBle | Well, grab toay's version. The one three days ago won't do DHCP (or wouldn't for me) and one of the developers said it was fixed (or should be) in today's version. |
| 15:17.37 | TBBle | And I've only used it with WEPd/WPAd networks, so I dunno if you need the sta_up script (using the howto at bcm43xx.berlios.de I assume) for that. Someone in here yesterday said you don't... |
| 15:20.50 | Flimzy | I got DHCP to work.... once. hehe... on my home network |
| 15:20.53 | Flimzy | but I'll try today's version |
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| 16:15.17 | Flimzy | well I'm using todays bcm43xx driver... but still can't connect to an unencrypted ntwork |
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| 16:46.32 | Flimzy | The firmware I have for my bcm card is apparantly version 3.50.37.p6 |
| 16:46.33 | Flimzy | I don't see that listed in the fwcutter README... |
| 16:46.33 | Flimzy | is that a bad thing? |
| 16:46.33 | Flimzy | Can I download any firmware version, and will it work with my card? |
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| 18:52.14 | Flimzy | Grr |
| 18:52.16 | Flimzy | How the heck do I copy stufff from Linux to an HFS partition? |
| 18:56.58 | paulproteus|lapt | Flimzy: You mount the HFS partition, then you use "cp" or a graphical file manager to copy. |
| 18:57.02 | paulproteus|lapt | Flimzy: Do you know about mounting? |
| 18:58.46 | Flimzy | yes |
| 18:58.53 | Flimzy | yet it complains about a read-only fs |
| 18:58.59 | Flimzy | even tho mount says it's mounted rw |
| 18:59.34 | Flimzy | SoftMAC: cannot associate without being authenticated, requested authentication |
| 18:59.35 | Flimzy | er |
| 18:59.36 | Flimzy | blah |
| 18:59.43 | Flimzy | /dev/hda5 on /mnt type hfsplus (rw) |
| 19:00.01 | Flimzy | dufflepud:/mnt# touch foo |
| 19:00.01 | Flimzy | touch: cannot touch `foo': Read-only file system |
| 19:05.03 | Flimzy | Maybe I should create a FAT partition or something |
| 19:05.06 | Flimzy | that Linux can actually handle |
| 19:06.41 | Bor_Ed | hfsplus is supported too |
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| 19:12.28 | Flimzy | It's mounted as hfsplus |
| 19:12.32 | Flimzy | as you can see from the line I pasted |
| 19:13.22 | Bor_Ed | yup... maybe your kernel has just read-only support built to the module? |
| 19:14.17 | Flimzy | hmm |
| 19:14.35 | Flimzy | don't think so, but checking |
| 19:14.36 | Bor_Ed | do you have stock debian kernel? |
| 19:15.47 | Flimzy | no |
| 19:16.45 | paulproteus|lapt | Is there hfsplus write support currently? |
| 19:16.53 | paulproteus|lapt | I thought it was like NTFS in that there wasn't support. |
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| 19:17.43 | itom | hi all :) |
| 19:18.24 | Bor_Ed | hfsplus has write support too on current 2.6 series kernels |
| 19:18.38 | Bor_Ed | ntfs got the support at early 2.6 series |
| 19:19.34 | paulproteus|lapt | Oh, I guess I'm behind the times then. (-: |
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| 19:27.14 | Flimzy | I don't see any hfs or hfsplus support that does not include rw access |
| 19:35.20 | Flimzy | both hfs and extended hfs say "read write access" |
| 19:44.21 | Flimzy | is there something else I'm missing? |
| 19:44.40 | Flimzy | URG |
| 19:45.45 | Bor_Ed | hfsutils or something similar package? |
| 19:45.51 | Flimzy | got that installed |
| 19:46.37 | Bor_Ed | hmm, you might be able to use hfsmount and similars then |
| 19:47.21 | Flimzy | hrm... what's that contained in? |
| 19:48.56 | Flimzy | what package, I should say |
| 19:49.43 | Flimzy | grr |
| 19:49.57 | Bor_Ed | it is in hfsutils iirc |
| 19:50.21 | Flimzy | packages.d.o is down |
| 19:50.42 | paulproteus|lapt | Flimzy: I'm using packages.ubuntu.com instead.... |
| 19:51.00 | Bor_Ed | ubuntu? |
| 19:51.12 | Flimzy | hmount, maybe? |
| 19:51.17 | Bor_Ed | hmm, that's like using mandriva repos for rh |
| 19:51.23 | Bor_Ed | could've been |
| 19:51.26 | Flimzy | blah |
| 19:51.33 | Flimzy | says /dev/hda5 is not an HFS volume |
| 19:51.43 | paulproteus|lapt | It's hfsplus, that's why, perhaps. |
| 19:51.44 | Flimzy | does hmount only support HFS, and not HFS+? |
| 19:51.52 | Flimzy | yeah, my guess, too |
| 19:51.59 | Bor_Ed | I've only had hfs partitions here |
| 19:52.25 | Flimzy | maybe I should reformat the OS9 drive I'm not using yet, as straight HFS |
| 19:52.40 | Flimzy | or maybe I can accomplish what I want w/o MacOS at all... |
| 19:52.41 | Bor_Ed | could fix the prob |
| 19:52.45 | Flimzy | maybe this file I got is just a binhex or something |
| 19:53.31 | Flimzy | I'm doing all this to open a firmware file I need for my airport card which I can't get working |
| 19:54.04 | paulproteus|lapt | Flimzy: Oh, all you want is Airport Extreme firmware? |
| 19:54.15 | paulproteus|lapt | Flimzy: For the bcm43xx driver? |
| 19:54.17 | Flimzy | Yeah... the one I have seems to be old |
| 19:54.19 | Flimzy | yes, exactly |
| 19:54.32 | paulproteus|lapt | Flimzy: In the driver README, look for the wl.o download and fw_cutter that one. |
| 19:55.09 | Flimzy | okay |
| 19:55.24 | Flimzy | does the version matter? > numbers == newer & better, I presume? |
| 19:55.43 | paulproteus|lapt | Flimzy: For the most part. |
| 19:55.54 | Flimzy | mine is older than any of those |
| 19:56.12 | paulproteus|lapt | Hmm, your card you mean? |
| 19:56.41 | Flimzy | I hope the newer version(s) can fix this |
| 19:57.23 | paulproteus|lapt | Can fix the bcm43xx problem you're having? |
| 19:58.37 | simonrvn | hi |
| 19:58.48 | paulproteus|lapt | Hi, simonrvn. |
| 19:59.42 | Flimzy | I'm hoping a new firmware will fix the problems I'm having with the card/drivers |
| 20:00.37 | Flimzy | time to reboot so I get a fresh firmware reload... brb |
| 20:24.38 | rilatto | hmmm.... I can't install the X system, apt says it depens on a package that is not available in sid; any idea? |
| 20:24.51 | paulproteus|lapt | rilatto: Yes. Try testing rather than sid. (-: |
| 20:25.30 | rilatto | paulproteus|lapt the thing is that I am running sid... is there any way to go back to etch? |
| 20:25.51 | rilatto | but I guess there is the same problem in etch... |
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| 20:36.24 | Flimzy | hrmph |
| 20:36.33 | Flimzy | this wireless networking stuff cusk |
| 20:37.38 | Flimzy | er |
| 20:37.38 | Flimzy | and it sucks, too |
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| 20:43.52 | Flimzy | I keep getting "cannot associate without being authenticated, requested authentication" on an open, non-encrypted network |
| 20:43.52 | Flimzy | what am I doing wrong? |
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| 20:45.01 | Flimzy | hmm |
| 20:45.05 | Flimzy | what kind of range does bluetooth have? |
| 21:00.04 | Bor_Ed | ~10m (30') |
| 21:03.09 | Flimzy | probably not gonna work for me then |
| 21:03.22 | Flimzy | NTM, there aren't any bluetooth AP's here at work |
| 21:03.23 | Flimzy | hehe |
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| 21:09.32 | Flimzy | Is there anyone here who has experience getting the bcm43xx driver working? |
| 21:09.47 | paulproteus|lapt | Flimzy: Yes. |
| 21:09.51 | paulproteus|lapt | I have such experience. |
| 21:09.56 | Flimzy | What's the trick? |
| 21:10.06 | paulproteus|lapt | Flimzy: What are you trying, and where does it fail? |
| 21:10.24 | Flimzy | I'm trying to connect to an unencrypted network. |
| 21:10.33 | paulproteus|lapt | And how are you trying? |
| 21:10.43 | Flimzy | iwconfig eth1 essid "cox test pcs" |
| 21:10.45 | paulproteus|lapt | Flimzy: Here, hold on a sec. |
| 21:10.47 | Flimzy | iwconfig eth1 ap any |
| 21:10.51 | Flimzy | dhclient eth1 |
| 21:10.57 | Flimzy | I also tried setting the key to 'open' |
| 21:11.03 | Flimzy | but dhclient always tells me the network is down |
| 21:11.03 | paulproteus|lapt | Flimzy: Oh. |
| 21:11.08 | paulproteus|lapt | dhclient will not work probably. |
| 21:11.14 | Flimzy | oh |
| 21:11.21 | Flimzy | is there another dhcp client that will? |
| 21:11.22 | paulproteus|lapt | dhclient resets the network interface, making it forget the wireless settings. |
| 21:11.26 | Flimzy | ah |
| 21:11.28 | Flimzy | HA |
| 21:11.30 | Flimzy | geez |
| 21:11.36 | paulproteus|lapt | Flimzy: Yeah, sad I know. |
| 21:11.45 | paulproteus|lapt | Ask on #bcm-specs on irc.sipsolutions.net. |
| 21:11.47 | Flimzy | is there another dhcp client that's friendlier? |
| 21:11.51 | paulproteus|lapt | Or just use a static IP. |
| 21:11.58 | Flimzy | okay |
| 21:12.01 | paulproteus|lapt | Flimzy: I'm afraid it's a driver issue. All DHCP clients reset the interface. |
| 21:12.05 | amck | Hi. Anyone here use ISDN on PPC? |
| 21:12.24 | Flimzy | iwconfig still shows the expected info after running dhclient |
| 21:12.50 | Flimzy | I got DHCP to work... (altho only once) at home |
| 21:12.53 | Flimzy | was that a fluke? |
| 21:13.23 | paulproteus|lapt | Flimzy: Yes. (-; |
| 21:13.29 | paulproteus|lapt | You probably had only one nearby network. |
| 21:13.36 | paulproteus|lapt | So it picked the right one by luck. |
| 21:13.36 | Flimzy | I did at home, yes |
| 21:13.38 | Flimzy | I have like 3 here |
| 21:13.40 | amck | I'm looking for what modules to use for a HISAX card (on i686 it uses the HISAX module) |
| 21:13.54 | Flimzy | Well then shouldn't dhclient connect to _some_ network? |
| 21:14.21 | Flimzy | I'm not able to set a static IP address here, either |
| 21:14.37 | paulproteus|lapt | Flimzy: Maybe it's picking one with WEP.... |
| 21:14.46 | Flimzy | there aren't any WEP networks here... |
| 21:14.49 | Flimzy | at least airsnort didn't find any |
| 21:14.55 | Flimzy | found 1 ad-hoc network (from a PSP) |
| 21:14.56 | paulproteus|lapt | Flimzy: Ask on #bcm-specs for the current workaround (or maybe it's fixed in one branch, but I doubt it). |
| 21:15.00 | Flimzy | and 2 managed ones |
| 21:15.01 | Flimzy | okay |
| 21:15.14 | paulproteus|lapt | I suggest alternately running dhclient in the background. |
| 21:15.21 | paulproteus|lapt | In the foreground do "iwconfig" as relevant. |
| 21:15.43 | simonrvn | @tell amck -about ask |
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| 21:43.11 | rilatto | has anybody tried to install the X system recently? |
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| 22:32.25 | pahartik | Flimzy: 0-100 meters for Class 1, 0-10 meters for Class 2 |
| 22:33.09 | pahartik | Flimzy: probably more in good environment |
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| 23:01.39 | *** topic/#debianppc is Debian on PPC - think of it as a never-ending IQ test. | current release: 2.6.14 | Wiki at tinyurl.com/2r8uc | Sarge released: 2005-06-06 | pasting? /whois paster | ALSA bounty: http://tinyurl.com/b44ls | PPC sound cards http://tinyurl.com/7lrrk | Airport Extreme driver: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/ and http://tinyurl.com/8dpmt and http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-409194.html | PUBLIC KEY NOT AVAILABLE? /msg ravenbird 2006 key |