| 00:04.03 | noahb | I tried the previously mentioned method to boot mine from the floppy (on an oldworld beige g3) and unfortunately, it failed :-D |
| 00:28.35 | Joersch | where do i find the | symbol?? |
| 00:29.52 | Flimzy | above the \ key |
| 00:29.56 | Flimzy | shift-\ should get it |
| 00:30.00 | Flimzy | (at least on most keyboards) |
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| 00:33.18 | pahartik | Joersch: "xmodmap -pke | grep bar" |
| 00:33.39 | Joersch | ph |
| 00:33.59 | Joersch | pahartik, nice... but i try to install a system... |
| 00:34.35 | Joersch | Flimzy, seems not on a old powerbook |
| 00:35.59 | pahartik | Joersch: it really depends on which national keyboard layout is used... |
| 00:36.34 | Joersch | well... a german one... and i do not know where to find... |
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| 00:37.43 | bragon | lo |
| 00:40.02 | pahartik | Joersch: do you usually use <AltGr> to get that "|" character? |
| 00:40.13 | Joersch | yes |
| 00:48.02 | pahartik | Joersch: me too, on finnish keyboard layouts... i bind <KP_Enter> to act as <AltGr> with "xmodmap -e 'keycode 108 = ISO_Level3_Shift'" (works with X.org, used "Mode_switch" instead on XFree) |
| 00:49.14 | Joersch | okay... but for now... i try to install debian on an 1400c powerbook... the | would be nice to grep something out of the dmesg... because my internal cd-rom isnt found |
| 00:51.56 | pahartik | Joersch: <Shift>-<PageUp> does not get you back far enough? |
| 00:52.23 | Joersch | no pageUp at this powerbook |
| 00:52.26 | Joersch | :-) |
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| 00:53.47 | pahartik | Joersch: it does not exist at all or is behind <fn>? |
| 00:54.44 | Joersch | well... there seems nothing to be... just a blank keyboard... even an <fn> isnt mentioned |
| 00:57.25 | Joersch | maybe we should go the other way round.... how can i get my cd-rom working |
| 00:57.28 | pahartik | Joersch: damn... well, i do not know how to bind <AltGr> to some key outside X11... never had to... |
| 00:59.28 | pahartik | Joersch: "lsmod" shows that module for SCSI adapter and "sr_mod" are loaded? |
| 00:59.53 | Joersch | there are no modules loaded |
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| 01:01.35 | benoitc | hi all |
| 01:01.37 | Joersch | and i'am not shure if there are any |
| 01:01.42 | Joersch | hi |
| 01:03.00 | benoitc | anyone konw if we can have dvi/video out with last kernel on pwerbook 5,6 (alubook 1.67ghz with ati card) ? |
| 01:04.27 | pahartik | Joersch: it is possible that some special installer kernel was built without modules |
| 01:05.12 | Joersch | maybe... but for now... i'am at the end of my ideas.... |
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| 02:16.04 | max | hey you guys... is there something wrong with xorg packages... my kernel keeps panicing after an update |
| 02:16.43 | max | anybody else experiencing any issues regarding a newly updated xorg? |
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| 02:19.37 | max | anybody home? |
| 02:43.26 | noahb | I am |
| 02:43.42 | noahb | But I cant even get an install running, let alone xorg :-D |
| 02:45.22 | max | hmm... xorg seems to panic when scanning my last usb port |
| 02:49.16 | max | the 2.0 usb port on my powerbook |
| 02:49.25 | max | trying to build package from source to see if that helps |
| 02:55.44 | avar | be more specific |
| 02:59.13 | max | well... in my xorg log... there are no errors... the machine just stops at somepoint when starting xorg.... the last thing in the log is xorg scanning my pci, and the very last thing is my usb port |
| 03:00.21 | avar | try another driver? |
| 03:00.25 | max | running 2.6.15, latest version of xorg... never experienced this problem before... happens with 2.6.14 as well |
| 03:00.29 | max | i will |
| 03:00.41 | avar | what kind of machine? |
| 03:01.24 | max | powerbook5,4 |
| 03:03.55 | max | maybe the ati driver is the problem |
| 03:13.41 | max | nope... still freezes w/ vga driver |
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| 05:01.25 | pillage | has anyone here gotten the sound working on a powerbook 5,7 ? |
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| 08:57.11 | benoitc | mmmm, anyone tested mergefb for x11 (http://ozlabs.org/~jk/docs/mergefb/) . Could it solve my problem to have dvi/out from my powerbook 5,6 ? |
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| 10:20.42 | itom | hi all, I've just downloaded last netboot install iso for power pc; so the kernel 2.4.14-2-powerpc don't recongnize the cd-ide; when is planned to use the 2.6.15 for the installer? |
| 10:22.17 | itom | oh sorry, I post in wrong channel.. |
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| 00:04.03 | noahb | I tried the previously mentioned method to boot mine from the floppy (on an oldworld beige g3) and unfortunately, it failed :-D |
| 00:28.35 | Joersch | where do i find the | symbol?? |
| 00:29.52 | Flimzy | above the \ key |
| 00:29.56 | Flimzy | shift-\ should get it |
| 00:30.00 | Flimzy | (at least on most keyboards) |
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| 00:33.18 | pahartik | Joersch: "xmodmap -pke | grep bar" |
| 00:33.39 | Joersch | ph |
| 00:33.59 | Joersch | pahartik, nice... but i try to install a system... |
| 00:34.35 | Joersch | Flimzy, seems not on a old powerbook |
| 00:35.59 | pahartik | Joersch: it really depends on which national keyboard layout is used... |
| 00:36.34 | Joersch | well... a german one... and i do not know where to find... |
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| 00:37.43 | bragon | lo |
| 00:40.02 | pahartik | Joersch: do you usually use <AltGr> to get that "|" character? |
| 00:40.13 | Joersch | yes |
| 00:48.02 | pahartik | Joersch: me too, on finnish keyboard layouts... i bind <KP_Enter> to act as <AltGr> with "xmodmap -e 'keycode 108 = ISO_Level3_Shift'" (works with X.org, used "Mode_switch" instead on XFree) |
| 00:49.14 | Joersch | okay... but for now... i try to install debian on an 1400c powerbook... the | would be nice to grep something out of the dmesg... because my internal cd-rom isnt found |
| 00:51.56 | pahartik | Joersch: <Shift>-<PageUp> does not get you back far enough? |
| 00:52.23 | Joersch | no pageUp at this powerbook |
| 00:52.26 | Joersch | :-) |
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| 00:53.47 | pahartik | Joersch: it does not exist at all or is behind <fn>? |
| 00:54.44 | Joersch | well... there seems nothing to be... just a blank keyboard... even an <fn> isnt mentioned |
| 00:57.25 | Joersch | maybe we should go the other way round.... how can i get my cd-rom working |
| 00:57.28 | pahartik | Joersch: damn... well, i do not know how to bind <AltGr> to some key outside X11... never had to... |
| 00:59.28 | pahartik | Joersch: "lsmod" shows that module for SCSI adapter and "sr_mod" are loaded? |
| 00:59.53 | Joersch | there are no modules loaded |
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| 01:01.35 | benoitc | hi all |
| 01:01.37 | Joersch | and i'am not shure if there are any |
| 01:01.42 | Joersch | hi |
| 01:03.00 | benoitc | anyone konw if we can have dvi/video out with last kernel on pwerbook 5,6 (alubook 1.67ghz with ati card) ? |
| 01:04.27 | pahartik | Joersch: it is possible that some special installer kernel was built without modules |
| 01:05.12 | Joersch | maybe... but for now... i'am at the end of my ideas.... |
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| 02:16.04 | max | hey you guys... is there something wrong with xorg packages... my kernel keeps panicing after an update |
| 02:16.43 | max | anybody else experiencing any issues regarding a newly updated xorg? |
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| 02:19.37 | max | anybody home? |
| 02:43.26 | noahb | I am |
| 02:43.42 | noahb | But I cant even get an install running, let alone xorg :-D |
| 02:45.22 | max | hmm... xorg seems to panic when scanning my last usb port |
| 02:49.16 | max | the 2.0 usb port on my powerbook |
| 02:49.25 | max | trying to build package from source to see if that helps |
| 02:55.44 | avar | be more specific |
| 02:59.13 | max | well... in my xorg log... there are no errors... the machine just stops at somepoint when starting xorg.... the last thing in the log is xorg scanning my pci, and the very last thing is my usb port |
| 03:00.21 | avar | try another driver? |
| 03:00.25 | max | running 2.6.15, latest version of xorg... never experienced this problem before... happens with 2.6.14 as well |
| 03:00.29 | max | i will |
| 03:00.41 | avar | what kind of machine? |
| 03:01.24 | max | powerbook5,4 |
| 03:03.55 | max | maybe the ati driver is the problem |
| 03:13.41 | max | nope... still freezes w/ vga driver |
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| 05:01.25 | pillage | has anyone here gotten the sound working on a powerbook 5,7 ? |
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| 10:20.42 | itom | hi all, I've just downloaded last netboot install iso for power pc; so the kernel 2.4.14-2-powerpc don't recongnize the cd-ide; when is planned to use the 2.6.15 for the installer? |
| 10:22.17 | itom | oh sorry, I post in wrong channel.. |
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| 12:03.17 | TBBle | Yo! |
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| 13:23.22 | xwl | Hi, anybody able to play mkv files using mplayer? i'm using |
| 13:23.22 | xwl | mplayer-powerpc from "http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/linux-ppc/debian/ mplayer/". |
| 13:23.51 | Joersch | hi all |
| 13:24.12 | Joersch | does someone have experience with an powerbook 1400c ?? |
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| 16:20.04 | Q-FUNK | http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/universal_binary/universal_binary_diffs/chapter_3_section_10.html#%2F%2Fapple_ref%2Fdoc%2Fuid%2FTP40002217-CH240-BAJGDABG |
| 16:20.17 | Q-FUNK | and OF is gone too |
| 16:20.45 | Q-FUNK | http://www.betanews.com/article/XP_Wont_Run_on_Intel_MacBook_iMac/1137003330 |
| 16:29.15 | noahb | Someone will hack it, it is only a matter of time |
| 16:29.53 | Corsac | why installing windows on a macbook... |
| 16:30.23 | xwl | why not.. |
| 16:32.02 | Corsac | because it's not made for ? :) |
| 16:32.33 | noahb | Dual-booting OSX86 and linux will be fun. |
| 16:34.28 | noahb | Although I can do that already on a real mac, it would be interesting on a x86 mac... |
| 16:34.59 | Corsac | for flash and skype ? :) |
| 16:35.21 | noahb | I never liked x86 much anyway (disclaimer:no ASM master here) though. |
| 16:35.50 | noahb | The mac for flash and skype or the linux partition for flash and skype? |
| 16:36.10 | Corsac | well flash and skype doesnt work (well or at all) on linux/ppc |
| 16:36.16 | Corsac | but they do on linux/x86 |
| 16:36.35 | noahb | But not on osx86? |
| 16:36.41 | noahb | wait, no one has tried it yet |
| 16:36.48 | noahb | except beta testers etc. |
| 16:37.15 | Corsac | i don't use osx/ppc, so i don't think i'll use osx86 if i get a macbook |
| 16:38.06 | noahb | :-D why get a macbook then? |
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| 16:38.22 | noahb | I doubt itll run os9... |
| 16:40.57 | bragon | classic can do that |
| 16:41.22 | bragon | could we have classic with x86osx ? |
| 16:41.53 | noahb | Well, I wonder when Mac On linux X86 is going to come out. |
| 16:42.13 | bragon | perhaps never ;) |
| 16:42.40 | johill | most likely never since mol is already mostly unmaintained |
| 16:42.47 | bragon | anywone know TBBle here ? |
| 16:42.49 | johill | but there'll probably be vmware patches for EFI and then osx runs |
| 16:43.06 | johill | hm? what about tbble? |
| 16:43.25 | bragon | because he has make a documentation in order to make work bcm43xx and i want information |
| 16:43.38 | bragon | i don't manage to make work wireless with my powerbook |
| 16:43.44 | noahb | Vista is going to be based on mach? |
| 16:43.50 | noahb | No way... |
| 16:44.26 | noahb | Dang, it might actually be good. |
| 16:44.48 | bragon | johill do you manage to compile bcm43xx module ? |
| 16:44.55 | johill | bragon: I'm using it at the moment |
| 16:45.00 | bragon | \o/ |
| 16:45.04 | johill | bragon: keep in mind that I'm one of the reverse engineers ;) |
| 16:45.26 | Corsac | bragon: i can build the latest softmac snapshot / bcm43xx revision |
| 16:45.27 | bragon | i'm a lucky boy |
| 16:45.33 | Corsac | but (associating panic()) |
| 16:45.34 | bragon | can i have some help ? |
| 16:45.50 | johill | Corsac: I saw that panic but it looks weird, in the middle of ieee80211_rx_mgt or something iirc |
| 16:46.18 | johill | eh. don't ask me questions now, I have to go in 5 minutes |
| 16:46.22 | Corsac | :) |
| 16:46.29 | Corsac | bragon: don't ask to ask and ask ! |
| 16:46.32 | johill | Corsac: I saved it into my todo folder ;) |
| 16:46.50 | bragon | johill when do you come back ? |
| 16:46.59 | johill | tomorrow I guess |
| 16:47.01 | bragon | Corsac ok i will do that |
| 16:47.12 | _rene_ | johill: I do get it trying to autenticate because it thinks it need to authenticate even if the wlan is open |
| 16:47.15 | johill | I'm sure others can help you better |
| 16:47.25 | bragon | but my powerbook isn't up at the mmoment just few minutes please :) |
| 16:47.32 | johill | _rene_: it always needs to auth, even if the wlan is open, only open authentication then |
| 16:48.12 | _rene_ | hmm |
| 16:48.19 | johill | _rene_: if there's no auth result, try setting the rate to 1M -- you might have one of the newer cards where OFDM rates don't work |
| 16:48.31 | _rene_ | johill: I did that, 11M |
| 16:48.35 | johill | oh ok |
| 16:48.47 | johill | dunno then, sorry |
| 16:49.03 | _rene_ | iBook G4 newest serioes |
| 16:49.33 | johill | yeah it's likely that the newest series won't work with ofdm rates |
| 16:49.46 | johill | I *really* need to patch softmac to do rate control |
| 16:49.54 | johill | oh. packaging for debian? I guess I'm upstream then ;) |
| 16:50.07 | _rene_ | ah, that's good |
| 16:50.14 | _rene_ | because softmac lacks *any* copyright notice |
| 16:50.28 | _rene_ | please add it... |
| 16:50.32 | johill | it does? uh. ok |
| 16:50.48 | _rene_ | exept the "parts of this is based on netsomething" |
| 16:50.50 | johill | I mean... it's a kernel patch. gpl2 should be implied, no? |
| 16:51.00 | _rene_ | johill: license != copyright info |
| 16:51.06 | johill | eh sorry |
| 16:51.12 | johill | right |
| 16:51.18 | _rene_ | johill: and no, implications are bad. write it clear in there, please :) |
| 16:51.42 | johill | yeah. even if I hate adding gpl headers to code files. oh well |
| 16:52.31 | johill | ok well, I gotta go. I'll add copyright and license statements to the files tonight then |
| 16:52.44 | johill | and push that into the repo tomorrow :) |
| 16:53.37 | bragon | re with the powerbook |
| 16:54.10 | bragon | http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=Broadcom_43xx_Linux_Driver/Debian_Unstable_with_Devicescape_802.11_stack |
| 16:54.14 | bragon | i'm using that |
| 16:54.23 | bragon | i have a powerbook titanium G4 |
| 16:55.02 | bragon | a kernel 2.6.15 compiled with the debian method, so i have the kernel-header too |
| 16:55.05 | bragon | but |
| 16:55.22 | Corsac | ok, now i'll make another panic() test |
| 16:55.43 | bragon | ARCH=ppc make -C /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-1-powerpc/ M=`pwd` EXTRAVERSION=`cat /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-1-powerpc/.extraversion` <== what is the extraversion ? |
| 16:55.53 | bragon | i haven't this in my kernelheader |
| 16:57.29 | bragon | bragon@jeby:~/applylatest$ ls |
| 16:57.30 | bragon | drivers include net patch-2.6.15-ds060102.diff.bz2 |
| 16:57.33 | bragon | i have this |
| 16:57.43 | bragon | i try to recompile the module |
| 16:58.00 | bragon | when i blocked i'm show you |
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| 17:00.48 | bragon | jeby:/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15alexppc/include/net# mv -i ieee80211{,_crypt}.h old-ieee80211/ |
| 17:00.52 | bragon | mv: ne peut évaluer `ieee80211.h': Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type |
| 17:00.54 | bragon | mv: ne peut évaluer `ieee80211_crypt.h': Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type |
| 17:01.30 | Corsac | panic()ed again :( |
| 17:01.32 | Corsac | bragon: french ! |
| 17:03.01 | bragon | yes i'm french |
| 17:03.04 | bragon | you too ? |
| 17:03.16 | Corsac | yes :) |
| 17:03.43 | bragon | cool :) |
| 17:03.55 | bragon | bon je vais pouvoir continuer dans ma langue maternelle alors |
| 17:04.07 | bragon | a moins que ca gene les gens du chan ? |
| 17:06.34 | Corsac | (à mon avis plutôt en anglais, pour les autres) |
| 17:06.52 | bragon | ok |
| 17:07.01 | bragon | ARCH=ppc make -C /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-1-powerpc/ M=`pwd` EXTRAVERSION=`cat /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15alexppc/.extraversion` |
| 17:07.13 | bragon | que dois je mettre ici a la place de .extraversion |
| 17:07.26 | Corsac | when building bcm43xx ? |
| 17:07.32 | bragon | yes |
| 17:07.46 | bragon | arf |
| 17:08.02 | bragon | the first header path were failed |
| 17:08.21 | bragon | i remplace it linux-headers-2.6.15-1-powerpc by linux-headers-2.6.15alexppc |
| 17:08.34 | Corsac | i'm using a vanilla kernel, but, hmhm |
| 17:08.37 | bragon | (en faite je retest de faire l'install mais je sais plus ou cela avait echoué) |
| 17:08.55 | bragon | i ever test without succes |
| 17:09.07 | Corsac | corsac@hidalgo: make [bcm43x/trunk/driver] |
| 17:09.10 | Corsac | make -C /lib/modules/2.6.15/build M=/home/corsac/downloads/powerbook/bcm43x/trunk/driver modules |
| 17:09.13 | bragon | i'm using a kernel source from kernel.org i guess |
| 17:09.53 | Corsac | what rev do you use ? |
| 17:10.08 | bragon | the first maybe |
| 17:10.15 | bragon | (je m'en rappelle plus) |
| 17:11.20 | bragon | (voila mon erreur est la) |
| 17:11.21 | Corsac | Updated to revision 1051. |
| 17:11.36 | bragon | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:11.39 | bragon | cat: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15alexppc/.extraversion: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type |
| 17:11.42 | bragon | make: entrant dans le répertoire « /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15alexppc » |
| 17:11.45 | bragon | make: quittant le répertoire « /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15alexppc » |
| 17:11.47 | bragon | jeby:/home/bragon/applylatest/net/ieee80211# |
| 17:12.57 | bragon | (j'arrive pas a m'expliquer en anglais c horrible) |
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| 00:04.03 | noahb | I tried the previously mentioned method to boot mine from the floppy (on an oldworld beige g3) and unfortunately, it failed :-D |
| 00:28.35 | Joersch | where do i find the | symbol?? |
| 00:29.52 | Flimzy | above the \ key |
| 00:29.56 | Flimzy | shift-\ should get it |
| 00:30.00 | Flimzy | (at least on most keyboards) |
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| 00:33.18 | pahartik | Joersch: "xmodmap -pke | grep bar" |
| 00:33.39 | Joersch | ph |
| 00:33.59 | Joersch | pahartik, nice... but i try to install a system... |
| 00:34.35 | Joersch | Flimzy, seems not on a old powerbook |
| 00:35.59 | pahartik | Joersch: it really depends on which national keyboard layout is used... |
| 00:36.34 | Joersch | well... a german one... and i do not know where to find... |
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| 00:37.43 | bragon | lo |
| 00:40.02 | pahartik | Joersch: do you usually use <AltGr> to get that "|" character? |
| 00:40.13 | Joersch | yes |
| 00:48.02 | pahartik | Joersch: me too, on finnish keyboard layouts... i bind <KP_Enter> to act as <AltGr> with "xmodmap -e 'keycode 108 = ISO_Level3_Shift'" (works with X.org, used "Mode_switch" instead on XFree) |
| 00:49.14 | Joersch | okay... but for now... i try to install debian on an 1400c powerbook... the | would be nice to grep something out of the dmesg... because my internal cd-rom isnt found |
| 00:51.56 | pahartik | Joersch: <Shift>-<PageUp> does not get you back far enough? |
| 00:52.23 | Joersch | no pageUp at this powerbook |
| 00:52.26 | Joersch | :-) |
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| 00:53.47 | pahartik | Joersch: it does not exist at all or is behind <fn>? |
| 00:54.44 | Joersch | well... there seems nothing to be... just a blank keyboard... even an <fn> isnt mentioned |
| 00:57.25 | Joersch | maybe we should go the other way round.... how can i get my cd-rom working |
| 00:57.28 | pahartik | Joersch: damn... well, i do not know how to bind <AltGr> to some key outside X11... never had to... |
| 00:59.28 | pahartik | Joersch: "lsmod" shows that module for SCSI adapter and "sr_mod" are loaded? |
| 00:59.53 | Joersch | there are no modules loaded |
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| 01:01.35 | benoitc | hi all |
| 01:01.37 | Joersch | and i'am not shure if there are any |
| 01:01.42 | Joersch | hi |
| 01:03.00 | benoitc | anyone konw if we can have dvi/video out with last kernel on pwerbook 5,6 (alubook 1.67ghz with ati card) ? |
| 01:04.27 | pahartik | Joersch: it is possible that some special installer kernel was built without modules |
| 01:05.12 | Joersch | maybe... but for now... i'am at the end of my ideas.... |
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| 02:16.04 | max | hey you guys... is there something wrong with xorg packages... my kernel keeps panicing after an update |
| 02:16.43 | max | anybody else experiencing any issues regarding a newly updated xorg? |
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| 02:19.37 | max | anybody home? |
| 02:43.26 | noahb | I am |
| 02:43.42 | noahb | But I cant even get an install running, let alone xorg :-D |
| 02:45.22 | max | hmm... xorg seems to panic when scanning my last usb port |
| 02:49.16 | max | the 2.0 usb port on my powerbook |
| 02:49.25 | max | trying to build package from source to see if that helps |
| 02:55.44 | avar | be more specific |
| 02:59.13 | max | well... in my xorg log... there are no errors... the machine just stops at somepoint when starting xorg.... the last thing in the log is xorg scanning my pci, and the very last thing is my usb port |
| 03:00.21 | avar | try another driver? |
| 03:00.25 | max | running 2.6.15, latest version of xorg... never experienced this problem before... happens with 2.6.14 as well |
| 03:00.29 | max | i will |
| 03:00.41 | avar | what kind of machine? |
| 03:01.24 | max | powerbook5,4 |
| 03:03.55 | max | maybe the ati driver is the problem |
| 03:13.41 | max | nope... still freezes w/ vga driver |
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| 05:01.25 | pillage | has anyone here gotten the sound working on a powerbook 5,7 ? |
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| 08:57.11 | benoitc | mmmm, anyone tested mergefb for x11 (http://ozlabs.org/~jk/docs/mergefb/) . Could it solve my problem to have dvi/out from my powerbook 5,6 ? |
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| 10:20.42 | itom | hi all, I've just downloaded last netboot install iso for power pc; so the kernel 2.4.14-2-powerpc don't recongnize the cd-ide; when is planned to use the 2.6.15 for the installer? |
| 10:22.17 | itom | oh sorry, I post in wrong channel.. |
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| 11:39.00 | bragon | TBBle hello |
| 12:03.17 | TBBle | Yo! |
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| 13:23.22 | xwl | Hi, anybody able to play mkv files using mplayer? i'm using |
| 13:23.22 | xwl | mplayer-powerpc from "http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/linux-ppc/debian/ mplayer/". |
| 13:23.51 | Joersch | hi all |
| 13:24.12 | Joersch | does someone have experience with an powerbook 1400c ?? |
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| 16:20.04 | Q-FUNK | http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/universal_binary/universal_binary_diffs/chapter_3_section_10.html#%2F%2Fapple_ref%2Fdoc%2Fuid%2FTP40002217-CH240-BAJGDABG |
| 16:20.17 | Q-FUNK | and OF is gone too |
| 16:20.45 | Q-FUNK | http://www.betanews.com/article/XP_Wont_Run_on_Intel_MacBook_iMac/1137003330 |
| 16:29.15 | noahb | Someone will hack it, it is only a matter of time |
| 16:29.53 | Corsac | why installing windows on a macbook... |
| 16:30.23 | xwl | why not.. |
| 16:32.02 | Corsac | because it's not made for ? :) |
| 16:32.33 | noahb | Dual-booting OSX86 and linux will be fun. |
| 16:34.28 | noahb | Although I can do that already on a real mac, it would be interesting on a x86 mac... |
| 16:34.59 | Corsac | for flash and skype ? :) |
| 16:35.21 | noahb | I never liked x86 much anyway (disclaimer:no ASM master here) though. |
| 16:35.50 | noahb | The mac for flash and skype or the linux partition for flash and skype? |
| 16:36.10 | Corsac | well flash and skype doesnt work (well or at all) on linux/ppc |
| 16:36.16 | Corsac | but they do on linux/x86 |
| 16:36.35 | noahb | But not on osx86? |
| 16:36.41 | noahb | wait, no one has tried it yet |
| 16:36.48 | noahb | except beta testers etc. |
| 16:37.15 | Corsac | i don't use osx/ppc, so i don't think i'll use osx86 if i get a macbook |
| 16:38.06 | noahb | :-D why get a macbook then? |
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| 16:38.22 | noahb | I doubt itll run os9... |
| 16:40.57 | bragon | classic can do that |
| 16:41.22 | bragon | could we have classic with x86osx ? |
| 16:41.53 | noahb | Well, I wonder when Mac On linux X86 is going to come out. |
| 16:42.13 | bragon | perhaps never ;) |
| 16:42.40 | johill | most likely never since mol is already mostly unmaintained |
| 16:42.47 | bragon | anywone know TBBle here ? |
| 16:42.49 | johill | but there'll probably be vmware patches for EFI and then osx runs |
| 16:43.06 | johill | hm? what about tbble? |
| 16:43.25 | bragon | because he has make a documentation in order to make work bcm43xx and i want information |
| 16:43.38 | bragon | i don't manage to make work wireless with my powerbook |
| 16:43.44 | noahb | Vista is going to be based on mach? |
| 16:43.50 | noahb | No way... |
| 16:44.26 | noahb | Dang, it might actually be good. |
| 16:44.48 | bragon | johill do you manage to compile bcm43xx module ? |
| 16:44.55 | johill | bragon: I'm using it at the moment |
| 16:45.00 | bragon | \o/ |
| 16:45.04 | johill | bragon: keep in mind that I'm one of the reverse engineers ;) |
| 16:45.26 | Corsac | bragon: i can build the latest softmac snapshot / bcm43xx revision |
| 16:45.27 | bragon | i'm a lucky boy |
| 16:45.33 | Corsac | but (associating panic()) |
| 16:45.34 | bragon | can i have some help ? |
| 16:45.50 | johill | Corsac: I saw that panic but it looks weird, in the middle of ieee80211_rx_mgt or something iirc |
| 16:46.18 | johill | eh. don't ask me questions now, I have to go in 5 minutes |
| 16:46.22 | Corsac | :) |
| 16:46.29 | Corsac | bragon: don't ask to ask and ask ! |
| 16:46.32 | johill | Corsac: I saved it into my todo folder ;) |
| 16:46.50 | bragon | johill when do you come back ? |
| 16:46.59 | johill | tomorrow I guess |
| 16:47.01 | bragon | Corsac ok i will do that |
| 16:47.12 | _rene_ | johill: I do get it trying to autenticate because it thinks it need to authenticate even if the wlan is open |
| 16:47.15 | johill | I'm sure others can help you better |
| 16:47.25 | bragon | but my powerbook isn't up at the mmoment just few minutes please :) |
| 16:47.32 | johill | _rene_: it always needs to auth, even if the wlan is open, only open authentication then |
| 16:48.12 | _rene_ | hmm |
| 16:48.19 | johill | _rene_: if there's no auth result, try setting the rate to 1M -- you might have one of the newer cards where OFDM rates don't work |
| 16:48.31 | _rene_ | johill: I did that, 11M |
| 16:48.35 | johill | oh ok |
| 16:48.47 | johill | dunno then, sorry |
| 16:49.03 | _rene_ | iBook G4 newest serioes |
| 16:49.33 | johill | yeah it's likely that the newest series won't work with ofdm rates |
| 16:49.46 | johill | I *really* need to patch softmac to do rate control |
| 16:49.54 | johill | oh. packaging for debian? I guess I'm upstream then ;) |
| 16:50.07 | _rene_ | ah, that's good |
| 16:50.14 | _rene_ | because softmac lacks *any* copyright notice |
| 16:50.28 | _rene_ | please add it... |
| 16:50.32 | johill | it does? uh. ok |
| 16:50.48 | _rene_ | exept the "parts of this is based on netsomething" |
| 16:50.50 | johill | I mean... it's a kernel patch. gpl2 should be implied, no? |
| 16:51.00 | _rene_ | johill: license != copyright info |
| 16:51.06 | johill | eh sorry |
| 16:51.12 | johill | right |
| 16:51.18 | _rene_ | johill: and no, implications are bad. write it clear in there, please :) |
| 16:51.42 | johill | yeah. even if I hate adding gpl headers to code files. oh well |
| 16:52.31 | johill | ok well, I gotta go. I'll add copyright and license statements to the files tonight then |
| 16:52.44 | johill | and push that into the repo tomorrow :) |
| 16:53.37 | bragon | re with the powerbook |
| 16:54.10 | bragon | http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=Broadcom_43xx_Linux_Driver/Debian_Unstable_with_Devicescape_802.11_stack |
| 16:54.14 | bragon | i'm using that |
| 16:54.23 | bragon | i have a powerbook titanium G4 |
| 16:55.02 | bragon | a kernel 2.6.15 compiled with the debian method, so i have the kernel-header too |
| 16:55.05 | bragon | but |
| 16:55.22 | Corsac | ok, now i'll make another panic() test |
| 16:55.43 | bragon | ARCH=ppc make -C /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-1-powerpc/ M=`pwd` EXTRAVERSION=`cat /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-1-powerpc/.extraversion` <== what is the extraversion ? |
| 16:55.53 | bragon | i haven't this in my kernelheader |
| 16:57.29 | bragon | bragon@jeby:~/applylatest$ ls |
| 16:57.30 | bragon | drivers include net patch-2.6.15-ds060102.diff.bz2 |
| 16:57.33 | bragon | i have this |
| 16:57.43 | bragon | i try to recompile the module |
| 16:58.00 | bragon | when i blocked i'm show you |
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| 17:00.48 | bragon | jeby:/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15alexppc/include/net# mv -i ieee80211{,_crypt}.h old-ieee80211/ |
| 17:00.52 | bragon | mv: ne peut évaluer `ieee80211.h': Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type |
| 17:00.54 | bragon | mv: ne peut évaluer `ieee80211_crypt.h': Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type |
| 17:01.30 | Corsac | panic()ed again :( |
| 17:01.32 | Corsac | bragon: french ! |
| 17:03.01 | bragon | yes i'm french |
| 17:03.04 | bragon | you too ? |
| 17:03.16 | Corsac | yes :) |
| 17:03.43 | bragon | cool :) |
| 17:03.55 | bragon | bon je vais pouvoir continuer dans ma langue maternelle alors |
| 17:04.07 | bragon | a moins que ca gene les gens du chan ? |
| 17:06.34 | Corsac | (à mon avis plutôt en anglais, pour les autres) |
| 17:06.52 | bragon | ok |
| 17:07.01 | bragon | ARCH=ppc make -C /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-1-powerpc/ M=`pwd` EXTRAVERSION=`cat /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15alexppc/.extraversion` |
| 17:07.13 | bragon | que dois je mettre ici a la place de .extraversion |
| 17:07.26 | Corsac | when building bcm43xx ? |
| 17:07.32 | bragon | yes |
| 17:07.46 | bragon | arf |
| 17:08.02 | bragon | the first header path were failed |
| 17:08.21 | bragon | i remplace it linux-headers-2.6.15-1-powerpc by linux-headers-2.6.15alexppc |
| 17:08.34 | Corsac | i'm using a vanilla kernel, but, hmhm |
| 17:08.37 | bragon | (en faite je retest de faire l'install mais je sais plus ou cela avait echoué) |
| 17:08.55 | bragon | i ever test without succes |
| 17:09.07 | Corsac | corsac@hidalgo: make [bcm43x/trunk/driver] |
| 17:09.10 | Corsac | make -C /lib/modules/2.6.15/build M=/home/corsac/downloads/powerbook/bcm43x/trunk/driver modules |
| 17:09.13 | bragon | i'm using a kernel source from kernel.org i guess |
| 17:09.53 | Corsac | what rev do you use ? |
| 17:10.08 | bragon | the first maybe |
| 17:10.15 | bragon | (je m'en rappelle plus) |
| 17:11.20 | bragon | (voila mon erreur est la) |
| 17:11.21 | Corsac | Updated to revision 1051. |
| 17:11.36 | bragon | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:11.39 | bragon | cat: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15alexppc/.extraversion: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type |
| 17:11.42 | bragon | make: entrant dans le répertoire « /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15alexppc » |
| 17:11.45 | bragon | make: quittant le répertoire « /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15alexppc » |
| 17:11.47 | bragon | jeby:/home/bragon/applylatest/net/ieee80211# |
| 17:12.57 | bragon | (j'arrive pas a m'expliquer en anglais c horrible) |
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| 19:36.37 | oo0_JeS_0oo | ¿anyone knows if NeverWinter Nights work in PPC? |
| 19:37.46 | Bor_Ed | possibly with qemu and wine |
| 19:38.20 | oo0_JeS_0oo | Bor_Ed: there is a linux version of NWN |
| 19:38.39 | Corsac | but no osx one |
| 19:39.04 | Bor_Ed | then just qemu is needed |
| 19:39.11 | oo0_JeS_0oo | I mean if this linux version works in ppc |
| 19:39.29 | Bor_Ed | pretty low changes... the games are built only for linux/x86 |
| 19:39.47 | Bor_Ed | lokigames erics ultimate solitaire is ported to ppc, dunno much others |
| 19:40.15 | Corsac | quake \o/ |
| 19:40.32 | Bor_Ed | not by id software |
| 19:40.47 | Bor_Ed | q2 is based on the released source code |
| 19:40.47 | Corsac | quake runs on linux/ppc |
| 19:40.56 | Corsac | well it should run if I managed to build it |
| 19:40.57 | Corsac | quake3 |
| 19:41.33 | Bor_Ed | hmm, I've got q3a linux/x86 here... just get the linux/ppc binary done and I'm interested on some fragging |
| 19:42.25 | Corsac | apt-file says there is a GL/glx.h file in mesa-common-dev |
| 19:42.31 | Corsac | but the package I have don't have it |
| 19:42.32 | Corsac | :/ |
| 19:42.40 | Bor_Ed | touch the file :) |
| 19:42.48 | Corsac | well... |
| 19:42.54 | Corsac | i need the content too, i guess :) |
| 19:43.02 | Bor_Ed | that's too overrated :D |
| 19:53.31 | Corsac | hmh i've managed to build |
| 19:56.25 | Corsac | but problem with opengl |
| 19:56.46 | Bor_Ed | just use softX ? :) |
| 20:05.23 | Corsac | damn slow :) |
| 20:06.44 | Bor_Ed | but it'll work :) |
| 20:11.06 | Corsac | it works |
| 20:12.15 | Bor_Ed | hmm, got to order the sonnet 1GHz upgrade then :D |
| 20:12.44 | Bor_Ed | anyone got spare radeon9200/pci with apple FCODE gathering dust, donations appreciated too? :D |
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| 20:39.55 | SimonRaven | Bor_Ed: i wish i had 3, so i could send one to you and one for my partner, and one for me |
| 20:40.06 | Bor_Ed | hehe |
| 20:40.18 | Bor_Ed | the price wasn't too healthy on applestore last time I checked :/ |
| 20:40.59 | SimonRaven | yeh :/ |
| 20:41.41 | Bor_Ed | maybe used radeon 7500 would be a better choise |
| 20:41.58 | Bor_Ed | or even choice |
| 20:53.11 | Bor_Ed | Corsac: http://icculus.org/quake3/?page=status familiar with that status? |
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| 21:18.25 | Corsac | Bor_Ed: «Client has severe graphical glitches.» |
| 21:18.31 | Corsac | that's it |
| 21:18.43 | Bor_Ed | prolly yea |
| 21:19.07 | cees | help!! I've dist-upgrade in unstable, and now I can not use gnome!! Ibook G4 |
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| 21:19.33 | Corsac | cees: could you be more precise ? |
| 21:19.49 | Corsac | (by the way gnome in unstable is in the middle of 2.10 > 2.12 transition) |
| 21:19.56 | Corsac | (that may be the explanation) |
| 21:21.15 | cees | Corsac: I was with gnome fine, and when I did apt-update , then apt-dist-upgrade, gnome dont work. Now, I am with xfce4 |
| 21:21.29 | Corsac | xfce rox |
| 21:21.31 | Corsac | :p |
| 21:21.35 | Bor_Ed | yup :) |
| 21:23.00 | cees | When I did update, the mesage There are no public key available ... etc May be this the problem? |
| 21:23.16 | cees | and how can I fix it? |
| 21:23.58 | Bor_Ed | naa, the keys can be brought from the ravenbird if I'd just recall the trigger |
| 21:24.01 | Bor_Ed | SimonRaven ? |
| 21:24.40 | SimonRaven | 3 buttons |
| 21:24.47 | Bor_Ed | nope, the apt keys |
| 21:25.10 | SimonRaven | @tell cees about 2006 key |
| 21:25.31 | Bor_Ed | danke |
| 21:26.16 | Bor_Ed | btw, does the blootbot have easy search function? tried to get its /msg help but it didn't really open up for me :) |
| 21:27.07 | SimonRaven | should've opened up in a new window or something |
| 21:27.28 | Bor_Ed | yea, but it didn't make up any sense :D |
| 21:27.29 | SimonRaven | you can do esc-a to go to the most recent active window |
| 21:27.40 | SimonRaven | oh, those are built-in commands |
| 21:27.49 | Bor_Ed | noticed :) |
| 21:27.54 | SimonRaven | just do help <cmd> |
| 21:28.02 | SimonRaven | most have a help now |
| 21:28.41 | SimonRaven | the ones for searching factoids are listvals and listkeys, listauth is the author of the factoid |
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| 21:28.43 | Bor_Ed | gah, I ain't identified now... no wonder it doesn't work :D |
| 21:29.04 | oo0_JeS_0oo | Corsac: You have told me about a kernel patch to enable FN key and you suggested compiling the kernel with make-kpkg but the fact is that bash do not recognise "make-kpkg" command... |
| 21:29.19 | SimonRaven | @installit |
| 21:29.19 | ravenbird | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
| 21:29.40 | Corsac | ahah SimonRaven :) |
| 21:29.45 | Corsac | oo0_JeS_0oo: apt-get install kernel-package |
| 21:33.59 | oo0_JeS_0oo | Corsac: sure that's it! |
| 21:36.37 | Bor_Ed | SimonRaven: ravenbirds internal search can be used on /msg too? it just mentions google :o |
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| 21:52.54 | SimonRaven | yeh |
| 21:53.18 | oo0_JeS_0oo | Corsac: kernel option was "Enable support for iBook/PowerBook special keys" |
| 21:54.14 | oo0_JeS_0oo | but I activeted previously this option aplying the patch but then powerprefs did not detect the FN key |
| 21:54.34 | oo0_JeS_0oo | Should I load a kernel module?? |
| 21:57.38 | Corsac | i don't use powerprefs, so i don't know |
| 21:57.54 | Corsac | LCD_IllumUpKey = 225 |
| 21:57.55 | Corsac | LCD_IllumDownKey = 224 |
| 22:00.00 | oo0_JeS_0oo | when I was under ubuntu a patched 2.6.14 kernel supported FN key (but I am afraid it trated FN key as "control key") |
| 22:01.09 | Corsac | yes, it's another patch |
| 22:01.12 | Corsac | more "native" |
| 22:01.15 | Corsac | nativier ? |
| 22:01.16 | Corsac | :/ |
| 22:01.16 | oo0_JeS_0oo | so when pressing, for example "FN + F2" to rise LCD bright it returns "68 + ctrl" |
| 22:01.59 | Corsac | now it returns a real X event iirc |
| 22:02.06 | oo0_JeS_0oo | I didn't like it. I was finfing a patch that separates FN key as a new key |
| 22:02.30 | oo0_JeS_0oo | Does this patch do that?? |
| 22:02.36 | Corsac | yes |
| 22:02.42 | oo0_JeS_0oo | OK |
| 22:03.18 | oo0_JeS_0oo | so changing values into 224 - 225 - 226 - ... should work?? |
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| 23:16.50 | bragon | http://wikicsf.geeknode.org/~csf/wiki/index.php/Bcm43xx |
| 23:16.58 | bragon | documentation in french langage |
| 23:18.19 | SimonRaven | ok |
| 23:19.00 | SimonRaven | @bcm43xx french docs is <reply>http://wikicsf.geeknode.org/~csf/wiki/index.php/Bcm43xx |
| 23:19.00 | ravenbird | okay, SimonRaven |
| 23:19.17 | bragon | :) |
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