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| 02:42.42 | pdr- | hi there |
| 02:43.17 | pdr- | need help configuring video out in a powerbook 12".... any volunteer? |
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| 03:00.37 | Hor | hi all |
| 03:01.06 | Hor | someone know how to put incorporated mouse working in powerbook G4 ? |
| 03:31.47 | KiBi | Hi Hor. Which kernel? |
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| 06:18.08 | xbaez | it's normal when i decompress a .tar.bz2 as root the directories have 777 permissions |
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| 11:46.45 | Tenkawa | Anyone awake this morning? |
| 12:12.17 | Q-FUNK | afternoon. yes. :) |
| 12:12.49 | Tenkawa | heheheh |
| 12:13.15 | Tenkawa | well I was trying to find out which alsa package a mac mini used in debian ppc but I found it |
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| 15:47.51 | Hor | hi all |
| 15:47.59 | Hor | someone have an powerbook ? |
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| 16:30.21 | SimonRaven | i'm sure some people do |
| 16:31.42 | Bor_Ed | I wish I had... |
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| 17:04.34 | Bor_Ed | "IBM's chips are power-hungry and generate a lot of heat, and therefore not suitable to notebook computers.'" |
| 17:04.55 | Bor_Ed | since when the occasion has been that ibm is sucky on power ratio compared to wintels? |
| 17:08.12 | s^3 | Bor_Ed, since the Pentium M arrived... |
| 17:08.35 | Bor_Ed | I recall freescale still pars or even goes over... |
| 17:08.46 | Bor_Ed | mpc8641d for example |
| 17:09.12 | s^3 | that one really is quite good w/ respect to that |
| 17:09.35 | Bor_Ed | mpc7447a ain't bad either |
| 17:09.44 | Bor_Ed | 7448a that is |
| 17:10.21 | Bor_Ed | maybe apple is just being cheap here... p4m costs less than half of ibm or freescale same performance chip |
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| 17:12.30 | s^3 | oh well in any case it's a game over situation :( |
| 17:12.55 | Bor_Ed | naa, genesi is still kicking as is mai |
| 17:15.02 | s^3 | notebooks ? |
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| 17:16.04 | Bor_Ed | well genesi just got efika board out, it's mini-itx 466MHz one... I wouldn't be suprised if they'd build some even deeper embeddable high performance board 'soon' suitable for lappies too |
| 17:16.13 | pahartik | s^3: only good thing about about that wintel CPU is that they use 65 nm technology, while PowerPC is still built using something over 100 nm |
| 17:18.08 | Bor_Ed | freescale is sub 100nm too nowadays iirc, a sec |
| 17:18.49 | Bor_Ed | yup, e600 (mpc7448a and 8641d) are 90nm tech |
| 17:18.55 | Bor_Ed | http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/overview.jsp?nodeId=0162468rH3bTdG7249 |
| 17:21.53 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: that is good |
| 17:22.23 | Bor_Ed | I'd guess it'll go to 65 or so 'soon' |
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| 17:56.12 | Q-FUNK | what was the stanza to put in the bootloader to tell the kernel to load a scsi driver, again? |
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| 18:41.55 | Tenkawa | Is there anything sloser to Sun's java spec for debian ppc than gcj? |
| 18:42.27 | Bor_Ed | ibm java 1.5 |
| 18:42.40 | Tenkawa | Oh really? |
| 18:42.43 | Tenkawa | sweet |
| 18:42.47 | Bor_Ed | yup, I use that |
| 18:43.05 | Tenkawa | got a link? |
| 18:43.31 | Tenkawa | or a good set of search words on google |
| 18:44.38 | Bor_Ed | http://simonraven.nuit.ca/src/java/ |
| 18:44.47 | Bor_Ed | or ibm developerwork java pseries download |
| 18:44.52 | SimonRaven | http://simonraven.nuit.ca/bin/view/Blog/BlogEntry32 |
| 18:44.54 | Bor_Ed | developerworks |
| 18:44.55 | Tenkawa | cool thanks |
| 18:45.20 | Bor_Ed | np |
| 18:45.44 | Tenkawa | dang got to get it from ibm directly now |
| 18:45.48 | Bor_Ed | SimonRaven: you don't have the blog link mentioned on the wtfhappened |
| 18:46.08 | Bor_Ed | ibm site is a zoo to search without clues as you know :) |
| 18:46.37 | SimonRaven | i'll add it |
| 18:46.46 | Bor_Ed | danke |
| 18:47.28 | Bor_Ed | I always test the /src/ dir first if I need some 'tools' |
| 18:47.46 | SimonRaven | yeh, i stick random stuff in /src/ |
| 18:49.15 | Tenkawa | ok I got the list |
| 18:49.23 | Tenkawa | which one is the right one for ppc linux |
| 18:49.33 | SimonRaven | pseries i think? |
| 18:49.40 | Tenkawa | ahh |
| 18:49.46 | Bor_Ed | pseries 32 bitter |
| 18:50.45 | Tenkawa | yep |
| 18:51.38 | Bor_Ed | btw, the install is dead easy compared to sun random mess |
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| 18:53.29 | Tenkawa | heheheheh |
| 18:53.32 | Tenkawa | downloading it now |
| 18:54.08 | SimonRaven | and java-package in sid (probably etch too) groks the ibm tarball now, too |
| 18:54.15 | Tenkawa | really? |
| 18:54.18 | Tenkawa | I didnt see it |
| 18:54.38 | Tenkawa | I use unstable |
| 18:54.40 | Tenkawa | orac@duneppc:~$ apt-cache search java-package |
| 18:54.41 | Tenkawa | orac@duneppc:~$ |
| 18:54.44 | Tenkawa | notta |
| 18:54.50 | SimonRaven | hm, sec |
| 18:54.59 | Tenkawa | which subsection is it in? |
| 18:55.17 | Tenkawa | oops.. think I know |
| 18:55.30 | Bor_Ed | ri@g3:~$ apt-cache search java-package |
| 18:55.30 | Bor_Ed | java-package - utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages |
| 18:55.30 | Bor_Ed | jikes-sun - Wrapper for jikes using Sun Java classes |
| 18:55.32 | SimonRaven | crap. not in ppc. used to be |
| 18:55.45 | SimonRaven | nm then :) |
| 18:55.52 | Bor_Ed | Filename: pool/contrib/j/java-package/java-package_0.27_all.deb |
| 18:55.55 | Bor_Ed | it's in contrib |
| 18:56.02 | Bor_Ed | and runs on ppc :D |
| 18:56.06 | Tenkawa | yeah |
| 18:56.10 | Tenkawa | I missed contrib in my list |
| 18:56.12 | Tenkawa | oops |
| 18:56.17 | Bor_Ed | hehe |
| 18:57.15 | SimonRaven | aptc show java-package showed it to me .. doh! |
| 18:57.40 | SimonRaven | * IBM(TM) 1.3, 1.4, and 5.0 Standard Edition |
| 18:57.42 | Bor_Ed | have you apt-get moo'ed today yet? |
| 18:58.19 | SimonRaven | i do it ~17h $localtime |
| 18:58.25 | Bor_Ed | mmkay |
| 18:58.38 | Bor_Ed | that'll sort out the search prolly :) |
| 19:00.12 | Tenkawa | yay |
| 19:00.12 | Tenkawa | uneppc:~# java -version |
| 19:00.13 | Tenkawa | java version "1.5.0" |
| 19:00.43 | Bor_Ed | fyi, gcjwebplugin works at least on moz 1.7 browser |
| 19:00.54 | Tenkawa | yup works nicely |
| 19:00.59 | Tenkawa | java itself anyway |
| 19:01.02 | Tenkawa | yay |
| 19:01.36 | Bor_Ed | off to play some ctr with wife |
| 19:02.03 | Tenkawa | thanks for the help all |
| 19:06.55 | SimonRaven | Bor_Ed: is that based on a free java? |
| 19:09.55 | s^3 | gcjwebplugin is a security hazard... |
| 19:11.16 | SimonRaven | how so exactly? |
| 19:12.50 | s^3 | SimonRaven, it runs under your permissions and can do whatever you can do: http://www.nongnu.org/gcjwebplugin/ |
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| 19:20.53 | SimonRaven | and how is that different from running say mozilla with your perms? ah, none of the usual security aspects with regular java. i see |
| 19:21.10 | Curalton | given i did "exec chroot /system2" with the only rootshell available, how can i get back to the original root? |
| 19:21.22 | SimonRaven | never mind me, i'm braindead today |
| 19:21.40 | SimonRaven | ^d |
| 19:21.57 | Curalton | /system2 is on the same partition, and i can't just bindmount to "undo" this move via chroot /system_1 |
| 19:23.02 | s^3 | Curalton, mount /proc and vola ... |
| 19:24.29 | Curalton | proc, then i have..? |
| 19:27.57 | s^3 | /proc/self/cwd |
| 19:28.20 | Curalton | ah, ic |
| 19:30.12 | Curalton | erm, no. cant chroot back into the original FS from there |
| 19:38.45 | s^3 | Curalton, can you mount your partitions again ? |
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| 19:41.27 | Curalton | nvm, i just rebooted, was just out of academic interest :) |
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| 19:43.29 | s^3 | Curalton, for the record you can. |
| 19:46.29 | Curalton | im sure, the question is just how :) |
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| 20:14.07 | s^3 | Curalton, as I said mount your partition |
| 20:21.05 | Curalton | well, problem is that it was already mounted, it refused to be mounted into a subdir of itself so to peak |
| 20:21.07 | Curalton | speak* |
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