| 00:00.01 | cheatersrealm | I'll be back in 1/2 hour.. getting dinner |
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| 00:28.04 | fulldisclosure | hi |
| 00:28.09 | fulldisclosure | someone using gnome here? |
| 00:28.28 | kattmat | gnome? yikes. sorry. |
| 00:28.41 | fulldisclosure | what is yikes? |
| 00:28.58 | kattmat | gnome is yikes. as in.. yikes. :) |
| 00:29.15 | kattmat | eww, blah, gulp etc. |
| 00:29.15 | fulldisclosure | what? |
| 00:29.32 | kattmat | as in 'i don't like gnome, hence the sound of disguist' :) |
| 00:29.39 | kattmat | i'm running evilwm, hehe. |
| 00:33.16 | fulldisclosure | ok |
| 00:37.08 | _rene_ | fulldisclosure: if you'd ask concrete instead of dumb metaquestions people might be able to help you... |
| 00:38.20 | kattmat | speaking of meta, we're gonna put up Six characters in search of an author by Luigi Pirandello in May. Metatheatre. Just in case anyone ever heard of it... ^^ |
| 00:38.41 | cheatersrealm | how can I tell what dns servers and gateway a connection is using? |
| 00:38.51 | fulldisclosure | _rene_: gnome background seems broken, when I put a background |
| 00:39.13 | kattmat | cheatersrealm: ifconfig |
| 00:39.23 | kattmat | fulldisclosure: tried doing it with xloadimage ? |
| 00:39.25 | cheatersrealm | and if they're not listed? |
| 00:39.43 | kattmat | cheatersrealm: ifconfig -a ? try it as super user, if that makes any difference.. |
| 00:40.26 | cheatersrealm | kattmat: nope. still not listed? |
| 00:40.45 | kattmat | at least the gateway should be in there |
| 00:41.06 | cheatersrealm | that's what I was thinking.. it's setup via dhcp if that makes a difference |
| 00:41.17 | fulldisclosure | kattmat: is a nautilus issue |
| 00:41.25 | kattmat | hm. maybe debian don't use ifconfig... :) i'm a freebsd user who's only been using debian for a few day.s |
| 00:41.40 | kattmat | fulldisclosure: try another more decent lightweight window manager. |
| 00:41.45 | cheatersrealm | it has ifconfig |
| 00:41.51 | _rene_ | of course the gateway is not in ifconfig... |
| 00:42.06 | cheatersrealm | what is it in then? |
| 00:42.06 | kattmat | it is in bsd.. |
| 00:42.06 | _rene_ | it doesn't belong there in any case |
| 00:42.25 | _rene_ | cheatersrealm: ip, netmask, mac, broadcast etc |
| 00:42.41 | cheatersrealm | no what is gateway in? |
| 00:42.41 | _rene_ | gateway is in route -n |
| 00:42.44 | cheatersrealm | oh ok |
| 00:43.05 | cheatersrealm | hrm.. looks somewhat correct |
| 00:43.17 | cheatersrealm | dns servers? |
| 00:43.39 | _rene_ | /etc/resolv.conf |
| 00:44.50 | cheatersrealm | hrm those are correct as well |
| 00:45.35 | cheatersrealm | so why can I get my router, but nothing else? |
| 00:45.49 | _rene_ | ask your router? :) |
| 00:46.04 | fulldisclosure | kattmat: I like gnome. |
| 00:46.33 | kattmat | fulldisclosure: good. just be sure to try new things too. |
| 00:49.55 | fulldisclosure | kattmat: ... like what? |
| 00:50.38 | fulldisclosure | I used KDE, Gnome, fluxbox, wmaker, icewm, xfce, e16, e17, fcwm, etc, and I like gnome |
| 00:51.47 | kattmat | fulldisclosure: tried evilwm? |
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| 00:55.05 | jcm | hi, can someone help me have alsa work on Pismo/debian unstable ? never succeeded on this |
| 00:55.49 | DJSpike | alsaconf ? |
| 00:55.55 | jcm | tried :/ |
| 00:56.10 | DJSpike | alsamixer ? |
| 00:56.38 | jcm | the only output alsaconf gives me is : Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-powermac snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc (failed: modules still loaded: snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-powermac snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc). |
| 00:57.47 | jcm | then 'No pci or pnp card found'. |
| 00:58.07 | DJSpike | what program did you use to check if it's working ? |
| 00:58.09 | cheatersrealm | _rene_: I'm giving up on AE for a while |
| 00:58.14 | jcm | the strange thing is that the terminal beep always worked |
| 00:58.54 | jcm | xmms |
| 00:58.56 | DJSpike | ah ! maybe you did not define the output module in the player config ? |
| 01:00.04 | DJSpike | mine won't bip, though it works great with VLC and XMMS |
| 01:00.34 | jcm | i chose Alsa 1.2.10, and thied the two possibilities: either output hw:0,0 or default pcm. For both it complains about unconfigured peripheral or no card |
| 01:01.03 | jcm | s/thied/tried/ |
| 01:01.25 | jcm | heh, good robot here :-) |
| 01:03.34 | DJSpike | did you install alsa-base ? |
| 01:04.00 | jcm | yes |
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| 01:04.28 | DJSpike | your kernel is equal or older than 2.6.8 ? |
| 01:04.33 | jcm | just tried to --reconfigure it. but still no conf file in /etc/alsa :/ |
| 01:04.51 | DJSpike | newer* |
| 01:05.00 | jcm | 2.6.15-1-powerpc but never worked before either |
| 01:05.33 | jcm | do you have something in /etc/alsa ? |
| 01:05.45 | DJSpike | i check... |
| 01:06.01 | DJSpike | yes |
| 01:06.34 | DJSpike | dev.d and modprobe-post-install.d |
| 01:07.15 | jcm | i don't have the dev.d, only alsa/modprobe-post-install.d/alsa-utils |
| 01:07.20 | DJSpike | maybe you could add your user to the audio group ? |
| 01:08.12 | DJSpike | by the way you are french and so am i :D |
| 01:08.16 | DJSpike | i think |
| 01:09.07 | jcm | bonsoir alors ;-) puisqu'il n'y a personne d'actif dans le coin :-) |
| 01:09.12 | DJSpike | world is so little :D |
| 01:09.14 | jcm | crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 0 2006-01-28 15:34 /dev/mixer |
| 01:09.48 | jcm | i'm already in audio group |
| 01:11.16 | jcm | the strange thing is that there's nothing to configure ;-) |
| 01:12.09 | jcm | dmesg shows nothing with 'alsa', 'sound', 'snd'... |
| 01:12.35 | DJSpike | lsmod ? |
| 01:15.06 | DJSpike | you should have a ALSA message during boot time too |
| 01:16.26 | jcm | should I disable snd-pcm-oss module ? |
| 01:17.13 | jcm | I have snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_powermac,snd_pcm,snd_timer, snd,soundcore |
| 01:18.25 | jcm | dmasound is not activated, should it ? |
| 01:18.29 | DJSpike | i have the same |
| 01:18.32 | jcm | do you have a Pismo too ? |
| 01:18.47 | DJSpike | no, a beige G4 |
| 01:19.03 | jcm | ha. Maybe my hardware is different |
| 01:20.21 | DJSpike | dmasound is deprecated if i remember well |
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| 01:23.17 | DJSpike | i've ever seen a 'dmasound_pmac' module with oldworld machines, in kernels <2.6 |
| 01:24.21 | captbob | I recently reinstalled debian from the newest cds, using the latest kernel and everything, but it now complains that "/dev/hdc12" is not a valid root partition (I use bootx to load debian), saying nothing is there. I can boot from that partition using an old kernel, but then the modules dont match the kernel version. Is there some new sort of format for the root device argument? I found some information on new naming conventions in 2.6, but cou |
| 01:25.46 | DJSpike | did you use the good initrd as RAM Disk ? |
| 01:26.24 | captbob | yes |
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| 01:26.54 | captbob | I installed with it, then when I went to boot from the hard disk, it doesnt work from the kernel that came with the installation |
| 01:27.09 | DJSpike | you have to switch to a console after installing, mount an HFS partition, copy the good initrd from /target/boot, and then insert it in bootx |
| 01:27.34 | DJSpike | do it before rebooting your fresh install |
| 01:27.41 | DJSpike | with alt F2 |
| 01:28.14 | captbob | and use that initrd as what? |
| 01:28.21 | captbob | as a ramdisk? |
| 01:28.28 | DJSpike | as ram disk in your bootx prefs |
| 01:28.34 | captbob | and that will then boot into my hard disk? |
| 01:28.48 | DJSpike | and specify the root partition in the kernel arguments |
| 01:29.16 | DJSpike | yes, it will permit to load the goos filesystems |
| 01:29.20 | captbob | down below where I specify the video arguments? |
| 01:29.20 | DJSpike | good* |
| 01:29.26 | DJSpike | yes |
| 01:29.28 | DJSpike | exactly |
| 01:29.37 | captbob | just the "root=/dev/hdc12"? |
| 01:29.40 | captbob | ok |
| 01:29.42 | DJSpike | root=/dev/hdc12 |
| 01:30.06 | jcm | ah, just found: aconnect -i |
| 01:30.06 | jcm | ALSA lib seq_hw.c:455:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type |
| 01:30.09 | jcm | can't open sequencer |
| 01:30.32 | DJSpike | lol, french console |
| 01:30.34 | captbob | dont actually have a hfs partition right now. reformatted and thought I made one, but apprently made em all hfs+, so I'll just stick in another disc temporarily |
| 01:30.44 | captbob | how is hfs+ support these days? |
| 01:30.48 | DJSpike | fine |
| 01:31.08 | captbob | nice. I remember it being weak and supposedly buggy a few years ago |
| 01:31.42 | DJSpike | you'll have to modprobe it, or enable the hfs modules with debconf/priority=low as boot argument |
| 01:31.54 | DJSpike | something like that |
| 01:32.37 | DJSpike | and at a time it will ask you wether you want to load it or not |
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| 08:40.31 | Corsac | is it possible to have bluetooth working is osx in mol ? |
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| 10:56.04 | o0x0o | hi there, a simple question, how can i obtain a pipe ( | ) on a powerbook 17 with debian and fr mapped keyboard) |
| 10:56.49 | o0x0o | i'm looking for the tilde too |
| 10:57.48 | o0x0o | last question: is there any ppc linux distro that already integrate Airport Express driver? |
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| 11:08.40 | SimonRaven | o0x0o: 1) what do you mean by 'integrate'? 2) on sid: apt-cache search bcm45xx |
| 11:08.55 | SimonRaven | probably in etch soon... |
| 11:09.51 | SimonRaven | @2006 key =~ s/084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F/2D230C5F/ |
| 11:09.52 | ravenbird | OK, SimonRaven |
| 11:10.05 | SimonRaven | @2006 key |
| 11:10.06 | ravenbird | apt 0.6.43.1 includes the 2006 package key. installing this package may not be auto-verifiable; OR! you can install the key as follows, explicitly trusting the keyserver with no verification: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 2D230C5F ; gpg --export 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F | sudo apt-key add - 'apt-get install debian-archive-keyring' |
| 11:10.18 | SimonRaven | @2006 key =~ s/084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F/2D230C5F/ |
| 11:10.18 | ravenbird | SimonRaven: OK |
| 11:10.20 | SimonRaven | @2006 key |
| 11:10.20 | ravenbird | apt 0.6.43.1 includes the 2006 package key. installing this package may not be auto-verifiable; OR! you can install the key as follows, explicitly trusting the keyserver with no verification: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 2D230C5F ; gpg --export 2D230C5F | sudo apt-key add - 'apt-get install debian-archive-keyring' |
| 11:10.58 | SimonRaven | @2006 key =~ s/'apt-get install/OR do 'apt-get install/ |
| 11:10.59 | ravenbird | SimonRaven: OK |
| 11:11.03 | SimonRaven | @2006 key |
| 11:11.04 | ravenbird | apt 0.6.43.1 includes the 2006 package key. installing this package may not be auto-verifiable; OR! you can install the key as follows, explicitly trusting the keyserver with no verification: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 2D230C5F ; gpg --export 2D230C5F | sudo apt-key add - OR do 'apt-get install debian-archive-keyring' |
| 11:19.29 | o0x0o | thx SimonRaven! not yet in etch... and what about the pipe in pwb keyboard mapping? where is it on a QWERTY keyboard? |
| 11:33.25 | SimonRaven | er, search for bcm57, sorry |
| 11:33.50 | SimonRaven | dunno, depends on the layout. you could use showkey or xev (in x) |
| 11:34.10 | SimonRaven | ... |
| 11:34.28 | SimonRaven | no, bcm43xx |
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| 13:35.14 | oo0_JeS_0oo | how can I setup MIDI support? |
| 13:35.41 | oo0_JeS_0oo | on a PowerMac Snapper (Powerbook)? |
| 13:36.22 | oo0_JeS_0oo | a $ cat /dev/sndstat returns: |
| 13:36.34 | oo0_JeS_0oo | Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG |
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| 13:46.07 | fulldisclosure | hi |
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| 14:48.38 | kattmat | hm. hm |
| 14:48.47 | kattmat | can i share .mbox with my osx installation here in linux? |
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| 15:20.29 | SimonRaven | kattmat: it's just a text file with a special format |
| 15:23.12 | Bor_Ed | SimonRaven: you wrote to that power.org free efika board forum post? |
| 15:23.16 | Bor_Ed | or anyone in here? |
| 15:23.22 | SimonRaven | no |
| 15:23.42 | Bor_Ed | just got a weird mail regarding the posting |
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| 16:19.49 | Bor_Ed | have a good one |
| 16:36.51 | kattmat | gah XWarpPointer won't move the fcuking pointer |
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| 18:12.56 | Q-FUNK | Bor_Ed: http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Even+top-notch+skills+are+sometimes+not+good+enough/1101981943364 |
| 18:13.03 | Q-FUNK | SimonRaven: (same link) |
| 18:14.19 | Bor_Ed | too friggin long to concentrate to :D |
| 18:14.31 | Bor_Ed | I prefer <10 line stories best |
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| 18:37.35 | mattl | hey.. anyone around? |
| 18:39.11 | kattmat | what pisses me off the most right now is me not getting my gfx card up and running |
| 18:39.48 | mattl | i have a problem, i think related to the sound card... when i'm in a terminal, and i hit tab, it freezes at the point where i think normally it might make a beep.. |
| 18:39.50 | Bor_Ed | what pisses me off is that buggr imac is at 12 eur currently and ~40 hours left in the auction |
| 18:39.59 | kattmat | hehe. |
| 18:40.20 | Bor_Ed | and I buggr want that thingy |
| 18:40.37 | mattl | I have a really fucked iMac G3 that I'm giving away. |
| 18:40.40 | Bor_Ed | mattl: what sound card, what sound daemon(s), what driver set you use and so on? |
| 18:40.59 | mattl | Bor_Ed: It's the iMac G5.. internal jobbie. |
| 18:40.59 | Bor_Ed | shipping from there would be more than the ~30 I'll have to pay locally |
| 18:41.47 | mattl | Bor_Ed: Where's locally? |
| 18:41.53 | Bor_Ed | hmm, imac g5... it at least required some patching iirc to the kernel |
| 18:42.02 | Bor_Ed | in jupiters moon europa |
| 18:42.12 | mattl | ah yeah.. that could be nearer 40. |
| 18:42.35 | Bor_Ed | yea |
| 18:42.51 | mattl | Bor_Ed: I'm actually running Ubuntu, but like to hang out here cause their IRC channel is full of complete n00bs. |
| 18:43.09 | Bor_Ed | so is this :D |
| 18:43.20 | mattl | apart from me? :P |
| 18:43.23 | Bor_Ed | naa, the g5 though might still require a recent kernel or some patches |
| 18:43.35 | Bor_Ed | what do you have running? |
| 18:43.47 | mattl | uname -a |
| 18:43.47 | mattl | Linux emily 2.6.15-14-powerpc64-smp #1 SMP Wed Jan 25 16:38:51 UTC 2006 ppc64 GNU/Linux |
| 18:44.11 | Bor_Ed | you have smp or dualcore setup? |
| 18:44.25 | mattl | nope. it's what Ubuntutututu installed. |
| 18:44.42 | Bor_Ed | try to install single cpu kernel as a first trick |
| 18:45.00 | mattl | I have a Griffin iMic USB sound thingy, and all my sound works through that. |
| 18:46.26 | mattl | Bor_Ed: I have two DSP devices on my machine... /dev/dsp and /dev/dsp/1 - that seems sensible to me, as I have two soundcards... Can I just er.. rm the other one that I know is not the working one? |
| 18:46.53 | Bor_Ed | hmm, or just rmmod the one that doesn't work |
| 18:47.07 | mattl | rmmod? /goes to terminal. |
| 18:47.51 | mattl | so, in /etc/modules i have snd-powermac - if i run rmmod snd-powermac, that's what you're thinking? |
| 18:48.06 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 18:48.27 | mattl | ooh. |
| 18:48.30 | mattl | it works! |
| 18:48.34 | Bor_Ed | suprise :D |
| 18:48.44 | mattl | see, i could be that Alan Torvalds bloke ;) |
| 18:48.55 | Bor_Ed | linus? :) |
| 18:49.17 | mattl | heh, yeah. I like to think of Alan and Linus as one very strange Welsh-Finn. |
| 18:49.29 | Bor_Ed | ROFL |
| 18:50.49 | Bor_Ed | mmmkay, that explains :) |
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| 18:51.04 | mattl | I'm from rural England, at least. |
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| 18:51.49 | Bor_Ed | shipping of the buggered imac would still be way too expensive, £60-80 |
| 18:52.17 | Bor_Ed | the box I'm after is 250m from here in univ IT staff care :) |
| 18:52.34 | mattl | it is very very fucked too. i mean, no RAM, no disk, PMU is shafted, etc. |
| 18:53.18 | Bor_Ed | mmkay, the imac I'm after has 160M ram, 4G HD, the install medium and is in ghey blueberry color :) |
| 18:53.32 | Bor_Ed | http://karju.uwasa.fi/cgi-bin/auction.pl?category=pc&item=1138791860 |
| 18:54.12 | mattl | imagine that.. sans ram, disk, media, working, half the case, and an optical drive.. it's yours if you want it ;) |
| 18:54.40 | Bor_Ed | sheesh :) |
| 18:55.08 | mattl | i had two, one worked, one didn't.. now i have the remains of the one i gutted. |
| 18:55.53 | Bor_Ed | I'd prefer to have http://projects.ppczone.org/projects.php and suprisingly enough, I already posted to there too |
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| 18:57.52 | mattl | Bor_Ed: do you think there will be much new PPC hardware now Apple have begun dropping it? |
| 18:58.06 | Mestapheles | I guess there is no release date for when sid becomes testing. Is there? |
| 18:58.09 | mattl | I hope there is, I'm not sure I want an Intel PC. |
| 18:58.18 | Bor_Ed | www.genesi.com www.mai.com www.ibm.com www.amcc.com www.power.org ... yea |
| 18:58.32 | Bor_Ed | mattl ^ |
| 18:58.45 | mattl | ty |
| 18:58.50 | Bor_Ed | yw |
| 18:59.13 | kattmat | The proprietary Linux drivers don't support the R100 chips (Radeon 7000-7500). |
| 18:59.25 | kattmat | And DRI freaks out a crashes the whole system. |
| 18:59.26 | mattl | kattmat: do the free ones? |
| 18:59.32 | Bor_Ed | properietary linux drivers don't run on ppc anyway |
| 18:59.49 | mattl | which mac as the radeon 7000-7500? |
| 18:59.51 | kattmat | good, then i don't have to feel sad ^^ |
| 18:59.57 | kattmat | mine does. |
| 19:00.08 | mattl | ah, what've you got? |
| 19:00.17 | kattmat | b/w g3/450 |
| 19:00.26 | kattmat | it was a rage128 in it before |
| 19:00.38 | Bor_Ed | kattmat: just get used 9200 and flash it... works almost idiot proof on linux |
| 19:01.00 | Bor_Ed | you could flash one to me too, I don't have a peecee to do that |
| 19:01.27 | kattmat | yes, i'll go and withdraw some cash from my bank account in switzerland (sp?) first thing tomorrow morning. |
| 19:01.49 | Bor_Ed | I was thinking of shipping some hundralappen but not then... |
| 19:02.51 | kattmat | Hm. I'm half finish, by the way. |
| 19:03.03 | kattmat | Not that I can speak the language, which is a shame, since it's a beautiful language.. |
| 19:03.04 | Bor_Ed | I'm mostly finished |
| 19:05.19 | Bor_Ed | nice nick btw :) |
| 19:06.23 | kattmat | haha. indeed. |
| 19:06.51 | kattmat | right back at you. took me about 15 minutes of just looking at it the other night to figure it out. |
| 19:06.57 | kattmat | "there's SOMETHING.... but...." |
| 19:07.19 | kattmat | Is that around Vasa or inbetween that and Åbo or something? |
| 19:07.22 | Bor_Ed | hmm? |
| 19:07.30 | Bor_Ed | vasa.. |
| 19:08.04 | kattmat | i think i have relatives in vasa.. maybe.. |
| 19:08.09 | kattmat | or if it was in åbo |
| 19:08.16 | kattmat | i only know three cities in finland ;) |
| 19:08.21 | Bor_Ed | or närpes? :D |
| 19:08.44 | kattmat | eeeh.. right =P |
| 19:08.50 | kattmat | kan du någon svenska då? |
| 19:08.54 | Bor_Ed | nope |
| 19:09.02 | Bor_Ed | moved here only 9 years back |
| 19:09.10 | kattmat | how come? you are supposed to study swedish over there :) |
| 19:09.10 | kattmat | aha. |
| 19:09.32 | Bor_Ed | I'm a finn, dangit, not some riksvensk :D |
| 19:09.46 | kattmat | still, you have attended school, haven't you? =P |
| 19:10.28 | Bor_Ed | I vaguely recall something called school... was that the place where ppl were forced to sit in place for 45 mins in a row? |
| 19:10.54 | kattmat | no, that was toilette-training. |
| 19:11.11 | kattmat | school was that place where you were supposed to be forced to sit etc. |
| 19:11.24 | Bor_Ed | aww, and I always have done 90 min toilet trainings... though I've always been slow |
| 19:12.04 | kattmat | you should eat more plums. |
| 19:12.16 | Bor_Ed | naa, I prefer drinking beer |
| 19:12.27 | kattmat | if that makes you shit better, you've got some serious problems. |
| 19:12.35 | Bor_Ed | :D |
| 19:12.44 | kattmat | beer is nice. hm. |
| 19:12.46 | Bor_Ed | why thanks :) |
| 19:12.49 | kattmat | haha. |
| 19:13.07 | kattmat | i'm thinking about having a little cuba libre to round off a good day at the theatre though. |
| 19:13.20 | Bor_Ed | hmmm |
| 19:13.57 | kattmat | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba_Libre |
| 19:14.19 | Bor_Ed | www.goat.se/cx |
| 19:14.31 | kattmat | i can beat that. |
| 19:14.35 | kattmat | don't make me, cause i can. |
| 19:15.16 | Bor_Ed | so that's cuba libre |
| 19:15.21 | kattmat | yup. |
| 19:15.34 | Bor_Ed | no absolut citron with ice? :o |
| 19:15.45 | kattmat | that's cheating. |
| 19:15.52 | kattmat | and baccardi has a different taste. |
| 19:16.08 | Bor_Ed | naa, absolut citron is ok... as is minttu |
| 19:16.25 | kattmat | Still no cuba libre. |
| 19:16.26 | kattmat | :) |
| 19:16.30 | Bor_Ed | bleh |
| 19:16.46 | kattmat | And what the.. |
| 19:16.51 | kattmat | You're not supposed to drink Absolut. |
| 19:16.56 | Bor_Ed | ? |
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| 19:17.07 | kattmat | You may only sit in a sauna, spanking each other and drink koskinkorva. |
| 19:17.25 | kattmat | s/drink/drinking |
| 19:17.28 | kattmat | -and |
| 19:17.30 | kattmat | +, |
| 19:17.46 | Bor_Ed | naa, I don't drink kosken korva in sauna... occasionally have a beer or 2 though in there, vodka just dries one up in sauna |
| 19:18.05 | kattmat | that's an other thing. |
| 19:18.11 | kattmat | all over the world, they call it sauna |
| 19:18.26 | kattmat | but here in sweden, we say bastu, as in bad stuga, as in house for bathing. insane. |
| 19:18.29 | Bor_Ed | even in sweden nowadays, you've given up with the bastu thingy :D |
| 19:18.44 | kattmat | true. i have never called it bastu. |
| 19:18.57 | Bor_Ed | at least according to a friend (swede) who lives in stockholm kommun |
| 19:19.17 | kattmat | haha never trust a fucking "stockholmare" |
| 19:19.26 | kattmat | their accent makes me puke. |
| 19:19.45 | Bor_Ed | well, he spoke understanbale swedish... way cleaner than our 'swedish' here |
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| 19:20.14 | kattmat | sure they do. |
| 19:20.17 | kattmat | but it's ugly as hell. |
| 19:20.30 | kattmat | well, i speak farmers-swedish. |
| 19:20.42 | Bor_Ed | well, norrlands swedish otoh... took me 2 days to learn even basic words in tjärnaby :D |
| 19:20.49 | kattmat | haha |
| 19:21.13 | kattmat | then there's the fact that norrland has sweden's highest percentage of suicide. ;) |
| 19:21.39 | Bor_Ed | I don't wonder that a bit... buggrs can't understand each others openings :D |
| 19:22.15 | kattmat | hehe |
| 19:22.24 | Bor_Ed | hmm, governator clip on telly... |
| 19:23.09 | kattmat | i like your president. i heard she's gonna be "more brave" this time ;) |
| 19:24.16 | Bor_Ed | ... |
| 19:24.56 | kattmat | i know nothing about her politics though, so take it easy :) |
| 19:25.04 | kattmat | swedish snus.. haha |
| 19:25.07 | kattmat | traitor ;) |
| 19:25.08 | kattmat | hm |
| 19:25.10 | kattmat | wait a minute |
| 19:25.15 | Bor_Ed | well, it's discriminated in here soo... |
| 19:25.19 | kattmat | you can't buy it in... right :) |
| 19:25.34 | kattmat | snus is great. |
| 19:25.42 | Bor_Ed | åland has some factory nut sells only to local and to swedens markets |
| 19:25.43 | kattmat | although not ettan |
| 19:25.54 | kattmat | aha. |
| 19:26.00 | kattmat | general is better. |
| 19:26.06 | kattmat | or röda lacket. but that hurts as hell. |
| 19:26.12 | Bor_Ed | I tend to have gustavus but grabbed couple of bazookas of ettan last time we were in stockholm |
| 19:26.12 | kattmat | but i prefer having a smoke instead. |
| 19:26.23 | kattmat | what a mistake :) |
| 19:26.39 | Bor_Ed | snus is ok when you can't smoke... like at home or at work or when sitting in train or buss or... |
| 19:27.04 | kattmat | (i just found out there's a bug in x.org that makes DRI freak out with ATI M7 chips, including radeon 7500 =/ ) |
| 19:27.05 | Bor_Ed | I really don't see general fitting me, too sour taste |
| 19:27.23 | kattmat | Bah. that's the whole point. :) |
| 19:28.11 | Bor_Ed | if I wanted sour, I'd use that black can thingy without portions... wth was that again, ~5 times worse than gustavus thingy |
| 19:28.38 | Bor_Ed | hrm general |
| 19:28.41 | kattmat | haha. |
| 19:29.19 | kattmat | in sweden people who can't handle en lös general are... well, pussies. :) |
| 19:29.39 | kattmat | maybe not in stockholm, but hell.. they're all a bit faggy up there. :) |
| 19:29.47 | Bor_Ed | I have no probs handling it, just don't like the taste and mess |
| 19:30.19 | kattmat | swallow the mess, it'll probably sort out those shit problems you get through drinking beer. : |
| 19:30.23 | kattmat | :) |
| 19:30.31 | Bor_Ed | I have my doubts :D |
| 19:30.57 | kattmat | Bah. :) |
| 19:32.40 | kattmat | hm |
| 19:32.47 | kattmat | if i should get going with my window manager |
| 19:32.51 | kattmat | i have only played around so far |
| 19:33.03 | kattmat | http://estet.se/~anton/ resulting in this ^^ but know i've got the hang of the basics. |
| 19:33.46 | kattmat | know=now |
| 19:35.25 | kattmat | you're missing out something real nice. ;) |
| 19:41.02 | Bor_Ed | I can live with it |
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| 20:16.41 | kattmat | if my xmms window is created outside of my screen's view. then i have a problem. right? |
| 20:17.06 | Bor_Ed | yup, you should use beep-media-player in the first place |
| 20:17.51 | kattmat | now i have to try it :) |
| 20:17.54 | Bor_Ed | alt+f7 is window move iirc... you can move the active window with arrow keys after hitting that |
| 20:18.06 | kattmat | hmmmm... what is the difference between beep and xmms? |
| 20:18.22 | Bor_Ed | bmp is gtk2 based, xmms is gtk1 app |
| 20:18.35 | kattmat | and why should you care? :) |
| 20:18.52 | kattmat | anyways, it opened at a good spot :) |
| 20:18.59 | kattmat | so guess i'll have to use it then =P |
| 20:19.02 | Bor_Ed | gtk1 is obsolete... it's like running mockosx on current apple hardware |
| 20:19.40 | kattmat | :) |
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| 21:25.41 | Bor_Ed | time to hit the famous sack |
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| 23:15.40 | mrwick | so.. is it so quiet in here because everyone prefers x86-based (and their derivatives) computing? |
| 23:16.01 | Tenkawa | Linux duneppc 2.6.15-1-powerpc #2 Thu Jan 19 03:51:42 UTC 2006 ppc GNU/Linux |
| 23:16.03 | Tenkawa | nope |
| 23:17.11 | mrwick | I guess more than 68 million people filed via ``e-file'' last year. That is 68 million people using M$ IIS to submit their yearly financial information. |
| 23:17.27 | mrwick | Can we trust their trusted computing to not keep track of our income? |