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| 00:30.45 | versaily | is there a way to format a disk *mac format* macfdisk...? how do i install it? im running ubuntu fresh install on a yosimite g3 450mhz |
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| 01:17.17 | versaily | how can i create a hfs partition using mac-fdisk? |
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| 05:51.46 | themp | hrm oldworld mac patched Of .. Quik doesnt install |
| 05:52.11 | themp | 8600/300 |
| 05:55.33 | XYZZZ | yes |
| 05:55.38 | XYZZZ | update with FC5 |
| 05:56.13 | themp | FC5 ? |
| 05:56.21 | themp | url ? |
| 05:56.29 | XYZZZ | Fedora Core 5 |
| 05:56.35 | XYZZZ | Hold |
| 05:57.13 | themp | yeah no i can get that i am tired of rpms |
| 05:57.31 | themp | which version are they up to now 10 at least ? |
| 05:57.40 | XYZZZ | probably higher |
| 05:58.28 | XYZZZ | 13? |
| 05:59.22 | DJSpike | anyone knows how to deal with the initrd/filesystems to boot my beige with my selfbuilt 2.6.15 kernel on a SCSI external drive ? |
| 05:59.43 | themp | do you really need initrd |
| 05:59.44 | themp | ? |
| 05:59.57 | DJSpike | well i tried without first |
| 06:00.01 | XYZZZ | yes |
| 06:00.20 | DJSpike | including some modules directly in the kernel |
| 06:00.46 | themp | i dont need initrd depends. you can insert modules afterwards |
| 06:00.52 | DJSpike | but it fails juste at the root fs loading |
| 06:00.57 | themp | yeah |
| 06:01.04 | themp | your root fs has to pivot |
| 06:01.22 | themp | i was messing with it on a sparc the other day |
| 06:01.33 | DJSpike | i don't really know how to do that :/ |
| 06:01.36 | themp | you havce to add some params to mkinitrd |
| 06:01.41 | themp | i forget |
| 06:01.51 | themp | i think the zip disk in this mac is making it not work |
| 06:02.12 | themp | DJSpike distro kernel etc.... |
| 06:02.13 | DJSpike | ii have no zip disk |
| 06:02.29 | DJSpike | i use an external SCSI drive |
| 06:03.23 | themp | yeah well it seems the zip is on id 1 |
| 06:03.30 | themp | sda1 and quik wont install |
| 06:05.50 | DJSpike | themp: mkinitrd's purpose is to make an initrd right ? |
| 06:06.25 | DJSpike | you mean i need to configure it another way ? |
| 06:06.43 | themp | yes |
| 06:06.47 | themp | yes |
| 06:06.52 | themp | how are you running it |
| 06:06.59 | DJSpike | bootx |
| 06:07.03 | themp | there is a way to do it from the default kernel |
| 06:07.16 | themp | my lef hand is paralized from typing two much |
| 06:07.27 | themp | so you will have to scuse the fat fingers |
| 06:07.55 | themp | man change a scsi id and it boots from ywet another disk |
| 06:08.22 | themp | BootX if i have to use that ill dump the mac I can use a 300 mhz ppc for some dev stuff |
| 06:08.41 | themp | if its going to be a hassel Ill jusrt buy a g3 or more suns |
| 06:09.07 | themp | I gave up on mac when they change chips anyways will cost me $'s in drivers |
| 06:09.59 | themp | hrm it was suposed to stop at the prom |
| 06:10.06 | themp | must not have saed it |
| 06:10.48 | themp | ResEdit |
| 06:14.57 | XYZZZ | I've been thinking |
| 06:15.06 | XYZZZ | I think Sparc is the only living arch around now |
| 06:15.12 | XYZZZ | The rest of this crap seems worthless |
| 06:15.57 | DJSpike | themp: i included the ext3 and SCSI support in the kernel, and i give the good kernel arguments, so why should i mess with mkinitrd ? |
| 06:16.10 | themp | well, I haqve been running linux on sparc's for since rh-4.2 |
| 06:16.22 | themp | if you have your filesystem and what you neeedd to boot then you dont need initrd |
| 06:16.26 | XYZZZ | how's the rpm support for sparc? |
| 06:16.37 | themp | initrd is really for distro kernel so it work on everysystem |
| 06:16.39 | XYZZZ | xine, gimp, vlc, etc? |
| 06:16.50 | themp | it caNB BE used for cool embedded stuff |
| 06:17.22 | themp | well I can run full frame video on a cretor 3d on a 200 mhz sparc with out any problems |
| 06:17.25 | themp | rpm |
| 06:17.32 | themp | depends |
| 06:17.42 | XYZZZ | is the stuff out of date? |
| 06:17.45 | XYZZZ | i know ppc lags |
| 06:18.30 | themp | actually debian is the best out of box... I have ported many others to sparc but I hand roll my own distros with a sun pkg like deal so I have the confs I need for specific purposes |
| 06:18.53 | themp | only thing about sparc that is outdated is 64 bit userland |
| 06:19.04 | themp | and that because developers are lazy |
| 06:19.06 | themp | look |
| 06:19.33 | DJSpike | themp: my kernel message is something like that "unable to mount root fs on uknown block 0.0", does it mean the FS is missing, or it is a device driver problem ? |
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| 06:20.02 | themp | yes it takes more ram. ram is cheap. no certain apps do not run slower if portred correctly. yes glibc has porting issues to 64 bit. but you cant use the full bus with out 64 bit. I need the full bus |
| 06:20.13 | themp | so I dont know why7 they think this way |
| 06:20.34 | themp | but I am just trying to make money so I can quit computers |
| 06:21.07 | XYZZZ | if i could get rid of all the computers in the world, i'd do it in a heartbeat |
| 06:21.15 | themp | apple/sun/other hardware has always been better than x86 |
| 06:21.20 | themp | yeah me 2 |
| 06:21.27 | XYZZZ | if i could personally get rid of them, while the rest of the world kept them, i wouldn't do that |
| 06:21.57 | themp | I cant play gigs because I lefdt my elbow sit on a arm of a chair and paralyzed my hand like 70% |
| 06:22.04 | themp | its been two weeks nothing |
| 06:22.26 | XYZZZ | christ |
| 06:22.27 | themp | it will get better |
| 06:23.00 | XYZZZ | you should sue |
| 06:23.05 | themp | US isnt paying for what they get. how come some businuss major makes way more than a good developer |
| 06:23.12 | themp | cause he knows powerpoint ?? |
| 06:23.32 | themp | I think it will be okay |
| 06:23.40 | themp | its just a hassel |
| 06:24.52 | themp | bbiaf |
| 06:31.51 | XYZZZ | I've been tempted by the tadpoles recently |
| 06:31.56 | XYZZZ | quite impressive systems |
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| 09:27.50 | themp | there are some cool sparc book but the newer duel core macs maybe nice. laptops are alittle big |
| 09:27.58 | themp | okay this sucks |
| 09:28.24 | themp | nothing boots on an oldworld 8600/300 native ? |
| 09:28.57 | themp | i supose netboot sgi are easier than this powerpc |
| 09:30.34 | themp | fbsd seem it may have somthing |
| 09:33.15 | themp | hrm bootx is not what i wanted |
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| 09:52.19 | themp | ah well for old world ill try netbsd |
| 09:52.52 | themp | only reason for linux was the apps |
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| 10:16.45 | xwl | Hi, any BT download clients available on linuxppc? |
| 10:17.09 | Corsac | yes |
| 10:17.20 | Corsac | bittornado, bittorrent, azureus, ... |
| 10:17.38 | xwl | i can't install azureus. can you? |
| 10:17.46 | xwl | it needs sun-jre1.5... |
| 10:17.59 | Corsac | it needs *sun* one ? |
| 10:18.01 | Corsac | weird |
| 10:18.03 | johill | nah |
| 10:18.08 | johill | Depends: libcommons-cli-java, liblog4j1.2-java, libseda-java, libswt-gtk-3.1-java, sun-j2re1.5 | java2-runtime, sun-j2re1.5 | java-virtual-machine |
| 10:18.18 | Corsac | sun-j2re1.5 | java2-runtime |
| 10:18.21 | xwl | yes? |
| 10:18.27 | johill | | is an or |
| 10:18.39 | Corsac | i can install it |
| 10:18.45 | Corsac | don't know if it'll work but.. |
| 10:20.19 | johill | gives a few exceptions on startup but seems to load |
| 10:20.29 | johill | but I have ibm java installed |
| 10:20.51 | Corsac | same here |
| 10:20.54 | Corsac | even with 1.4 |
| 10:21.32 | johill | hahaha |
| 10:21.34 | johill | this thing sucks |
| 10:21.41 | johill | I configure it and test the incoming tcp port |
| 10:21.50 | Corsac | NAT Problem \o/ |
| 10:21.52 | johill | then I'm done with configuring and it pops an error that it cannot bind the incoming tcp port |
| 10:21.57 | johill | no no, I have it going through nat fine |
| 10:21.59 | johill | the test was ok |
| 10:22.01 | xwl | really? when i tried "apt-get azureus", it says it depends sun-j2re1.5, java2-runtime. But can't installed. |
| 10:22.05 | Corsac | not here :/ |
| 10:22.11 | johill | but it failed to set the nowait option on the socket |
| 10:22.15 | xwl | mine is unstable, though. |
| 10:22.17 | johill | java.net.BindException: Address already in use |
| 10:22.20 | johill | :P |
| 10:22.21 | Corsac | johill: arf |
| 10:22.26 | johill | stupid test |
| 10:22.28 | Corsac | xwl: install a jre |
| 10:23.01 | xwl | about these two:, bittornado, bittorrent, i've installed both. which command should i issue?btdownloadgui.bittorrent wont' work.. |
| 10:24.38 | xwl | johill: also not working there? |
| 10:24.44 | johill | xwl: check bug #317715 |
| 10:24.53 | johill | no it works, but see above issue with the port thing |
| 10:26.17 | xwl | er, how to check the bug? |
| 10:26.28 | johill | http://bugs.debian.org/number |
| 10:28.35 | xwl | oh, that's about azureus. |
| 10:28.50 | johill | yeah that might be your problem |
| 10:29.17 | xwl | did you ever try bittorrent? |
| 10:30.45 | johill | bittorrent-gui |
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| 15:32.22 | dpro | hi |
| 15:32.28 | kattmat | hello. |
| 15:34.13 | dpro | anyone also lost directing rendering support since xorg 6.9.0 on an ati based powerbook (worked fine before) now I get: |
| 15:34.28 | dpro | DDX DRI driver expected R200 version 4.0.x but got version 5.0.3 |
| 15:34.28 | dpro | libGL error: InitDriver failed |
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| 15:34.46 | kattmat | I can't use x.org with my ati radeon 7500 (dri freaks out) |
| 15:35.01 | kattmat | there's some problem with x.org and R100 and R200 cards. |
| 15:35.18 | kattmat | i recommend xfree86 until it's fixed, if you need to use GL. |
| 15:35.38 | dpro | that's what I got ... a Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000] (rev 01) |
| 15:35.41 | xwl | works on my ibook. |
| 15:35.56 | dpro | that's a tibook IV here |
| 15:36.25 | kattmat | which version you've got of x.org, xwl ? |
| 15:36.41 | xwl | kattmat: Version: 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4 |
| 15:36.56 | kattmat | same as me then. strange. |
| 15:37.12 | dpro | same here ... odd |
| 15:37.37 | xwl | and it's : [Radeon Mobility 9200 (AGP)] |
| 15:41.56 | dpro | hmmm but here the glx* output (with LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose) looks like a driver version mismatch: |
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| 15:42.25 | dpro | warning, tiny little paste: |
| 15:42.27 | dpro | x@combat:~$ glxinfo > /dev/null |
| 15:42.27 | dpro | libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 5.0.3 r200 (screen 0) |
| 15:42.27 | dpro | libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/dri/r200_dri.so |
| 15:42.27 | dpro | drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:00:10.0 |
| 15:42.27 | dpro | drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 |
| 15:42.28 | dpro | drmOpenDevice: open result is 4, (OK) |
| 15:42.30 | dpro | drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 4 |
| 15:42.32 | dpro | drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:00:10.0 |
| 15:42.34 | dpro | libGL error: |
| 15:42.36 | dpro | DDX DRI driver expected R200 version 4.0.x but got version 5.0.3 |
| 15:42.38 | dpro | libGL error: InitDriver failed |
| 15:49.42 | dpro | kattlmatt: I'd use xfree but xorgs dual head/ mergefb / clone support is so much better |
| 15:51.19 | kattmat | and x.org is faster. |
| 15:51.26 | kattmat | i should use xfree too.. but.. bah. :) |
| 15:53.14 | DJSpike | i have a problem with dual screen |
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| 15:54.17 | DJSpike | if i enable the onboard Mach64, the Radeon DRI stops working |
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| 16:25.53 | dpro | wow full of musicians in here ;) |
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| 16:49.13 | melchior_thomas | hello |
| 16:49.29 | melchior_thomas | i tray to make a server on debian with a G4 |
| 16:49.40 | melchior_thomas | i need to auto restart after a power faillure |
| 16:50.10 | melchior_thomas | powerpc-utils have a fonction for the Cuda machine but it's seam's to not work with G4 |
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| 17:02.34 | dpro | melchior_thomas: I don't get it ? what do you need ? |
| 17:02.52 | dpro | melchior_thomas: ah I think I got it ... |
| 17:03.11 | dpro | melchior_thomas: sorry wakeonlan maybe (as a dirty workaround) ? |
| 17:07.20 | melchior_thomas | i found it on the gentoo doc : http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-ppc-faq.xml#wakeon |
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| 17:08.41 | avdyk | hi |
| 17:08.59 | avdyk | I have some problems with boot-floppies |
| 17:09.07 | avdyk | and the installation of an old g3 beige |
| 17:12.42 | Bor_Ed | congrats |
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| 20:49.50 | fishhead | http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/epson-hx20/ <--- mabye I will start reviving this today :) |
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| 21:04.20 | kattmat | http://estet.se/~anton/estetwm5.png |
| 21:04.34 | kattmat | my window manager is starting to become something |
| 21:10.34 | _rene_ | johill: the snapshots |
| 21:10.43 | johill | ok |
| 21:10.50 | _rene_ | johill: why? |
| 21:11.03 | johill | I just submitted patches to john linville and depending on how merging goes after that, I might have to rebase my git tree |
| 21:11.12 | _rene_ | ah |
| 21:11.48 | johill | will see |
| 21:11.56 | johill | snapshots should be fine in any case |
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| 21:14.55 | fishhead | http://nectarine.dhs.nu//synth/dma%20sc-odd%20stuff%20main.mp3 <--- all hail the mother of all chiptunes |
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| 22:32.37 | nefertum | hi, I have a little problem withmy ibook and the CRT screens |
| 22:32.49 | nefertum | I can use the clone or extended mode only with some CRT |
| 22:33.07 | nefertum | It must be a problem with the monitor frecuenzy |
| 22:33.35 | nefertum | I've changed the H and V freq, but it doesnt work properly in all the CRT screens |
| 22:44.12 | XYZZZ | man, i have no clue |
| 22:44.18 | XYZZZ | did u check ur monitor's specs? |
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| 23:30.00 | XYZZZ | Well, friends, I've moved to Sparc |
| 23:30.06 | XYZZZ | Apple is dead to me |
| 23:31.40 | _rene_ | so what? why should we care? we are not #debian-apple |
| 23:31.52 | _rene_ | we are #debianppc. and there are still ppc macs |
| 23:32.06 | _rene_ | even if there isn't anymore there's still the old macs |
| 23:32.23 | _rene_ | and embedded stuff and server stuff and... |
| 23:32.34 | _rene_ | not to forget genesi and pegasos |
| 23:32.37 | _rene_ | ppc != apple |
| 23:58.38 | TBBle | _rene: Interested in packaging the dscape bcm43xx too? Latest version has its own header names (so no diverting) and uses Wext for WPA so no addsta or wpasupplicant patches. |
| 23:59.01 | _rene_ | hmm. sounds interesting? |
| 23:59.04 | _rene_ | s/?/./ |
| 23:59.07 | _rene_ | URL? |
| 23:59.50 | _rene_ | for your already-existing packages that is ;-) |
