| 00:00.23 | _rene_ | but I might want to look at dscape, yes, currently busy with other things... |
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| 00:20.56 | TBBle | http://www.tbble.net/dscape (I haven't updated to WEXT version yet, though) |
| 00:21.45 | _rene_ | and what is the URL to the WEXT dscape thing? |
| 00:21.54 | _rene_ | rt2x00 or is there something standalone? |
| 00:39.29 | nefertum | XYZZZ: i have not the monitor's specs |
| 00:39.36 | nefertum | but i've made a mistake |
| 00:39.42 | nefertum | it works in clone mode, not in extended mode |
| 00:39.44 | XYZZZ | huh? |
| 00:40.04 | nefertum | i've talked before about the CRT monitor in my ibook |
| 00:40.15 | nefertum | some of theme work properly, others only in clone mode |
| 00:41.56 | XYZZZ | interesting |
| 00:42.01 | XYZZZ | you've checked dependencies? |
| 00:42.07 | nefertum | dependencies? |
| 00:42.13 | nefertum | in my package system? |
| 00:42.18 | XYZZZ | yeah |
| 00:42.26 | nefertum | no, but i don't have any problem with it |
| 00:42.30 | nefertum | it works well |
| 00:42.44 | nefertum | it happened with stable, testing and now with sid |
| 00:43.03 | XYZZZ | Very interesting |
| 00:43.10 | XYZZZ | I don't know what to tell you, except I'm isck |
| 00:43.15 | XYZZZ | and have 15hr day tomorrow |
| 00:43.15 | nefertum | :-) |
| 00:45.42 | XYZZZ | does that help? |
| 00:45.49 | XYZZZ | Oh, and I've got 2.4.3 on my Mac SE |
| 00:46.46 | TBBle | rt2x00 slurped in the WEXT stuff this morning. |
| 00:47.05 | _rene_ | ok, so I'll look there. somewhen later |
| 00:47.09 | _rene_ | sleep now |
| 00:47.26 | _rene_ | but before... |
| 00:47.37 | XYZZZ | huh? |
| 00:47.44 | _rene_ | nefertum: you have a crt in your ibook? how thick/heavy is it? :-P |
| 00:47.47 | _rene_ | nefertum: *scnr* |
| 00:47.59 | nefertum | xD |
| 00:48.06 | nefertum | i mean, the external CRT monitor I connect |
| 00:48.14 | nefertum | I use the tft screen and a CRT to work |
| 00:48.21 | _rene_ | of course, just a joke :) |
| 00:48.24 | nefertum | but it only works with some monitors |
| 00:48.27 | nefertum | yeah...xD |
| 00:48.42 | XYZZZ | what about your tadpoles? |
| 00:48.49 | XYZZZ | I've got an us3 running fc5 |
| 00:48.50 | XYZZZ | nice |
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| 05:39.15 | XYZZZ | HELLO |
| 05:39.21 | XYZZZ | is there ANYBODY out there? |
| 05:47.55 | TBBle | Probably. |
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| 08:34.47 | _rene_ | TBBle: mmh. so when both packages contain bcm43xx.ko, why don't they conflict? :-P |
| 08:39.00 | _rene_ | ah. different path. mmh |
| 08:40.46 | Corsac | is your kernel tainted by bcm43xx ? |
| 08:41.07 | Corsac | bcm43xx: no version for "ieee80211softmac_wx_set_rate" found: kernel tainted. |
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| 10:45.48 | TBBle | _rene_: Yeah, different path. I chose to blithely ignore the ordering issue this introduces, in favour of knowing what modules came from what package without having to dpkg -S the kernel's module tree. |
| 10:46.37 | TBBle | _rene_: I originally renamed the dscape one, but renaming the .ko doesn't change the name the kernel knows it by, so modprobe and rmmod were using different names. |
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| 10:56.20 | _rene_ | TBBle: wouldn't it make more sense to put both into the same path and make them conflict? |
| 10:56.31 | _rene_ | TBBle: you can't use both at the same time anyway |
| 10:58.20 | TBBle | Why not? |
| 10:59.22 | _rene_ | you can load both modules at the same time? especially since they have the same names ;-) |
| 10:59.30 | _rene_ | you can have two modules handling the same card? |
| 11:05.13 | TBBle | You can't have them loaded at the same time, but you can certainly have them installed on the system. |
| 11:05.42 | TBBle | Makes changing as easy as rmmod/insmod. Especially with the WEXT version of dscape, you can just restart wpasupplicant. (I hope...) |
| 11:07.17 | _rene_ | TBBle: yes, but what does "modprobe" choose? |
| 11:07.43 | _rene_ | insmod is irrelevant imho, users will just use modprobe |
| 11:07.47 | TBBle | Well, last time I checked it chose the latter one alphabetically. While I was building the above packages, it chose the former alphabetically. |
| 11:08.06 | TBBle | A Conflicts: is a terrible thing to waste. If they don't interfere with each other's operations, they don't need to conflict. |
| 11:09.14 | _rene_ | TBBle: so it is not sure which it takes. or it at least depends on many things... |
| 11:09.35 | _rene_ | TBBle: I don't think that's a good way for our users. we might be able to debug that, plain users won'r |
| 11:09.38 | _rene_ | won't |
| 11:10.31 | _rene_ | TBBle: in any case, exchanging softmac with dscape when they conflict is also just one command more |
| 11:10.36 | _rene_ | rmmod, apt-get, modprobe |
| 11:10.50 | _rene_ | instead of rmmod, insmod |
| 11:11.09 | _rene_ | or 4 is you do dpkg -P, dpkg -i |
| 11:11.17 | TBBle | Yeah, but my point is they don't _need_ to conflict. Particularly the stacks, since we're seeing other dsscape and softmac drivers coming down the pipe. |
| 11:12.08 | _rene_ | yes, I didnt want to make the stacks conflict ;-) I didn't talk about the stacks ;) |
| 11:12.11 | TBBle | But I don't think the drivers need to conflict either. I doubt people will try and install both very often... |
| 11:12.21 | TBBle | Yeah, I didn't think you had, but I just wanted to be sure. |
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| 12:19.47 | zakame | hi all |
| 12:20.47 | zakame | my libmemcache just got into Sid, but it ftbfs on powerpc due to error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type |
| 12:21.26 | zakame | as well as implicit decl of gai_strerror and freeaddrinfo/getaddrinfo, despite netdb.h being included :( |
| 12:21.30 | zakame | any ideas? |
| 12:22.55 | s^3 | zakame, your code seems buggy... be more verbose |
| 12:23.36 | zakame | s^3: log is in http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?&pkg=libmemcache&ver=1.4.0.rc1-1&arch=powerpc&stamp=1138735706&file=log&as=raw |
| 12:24.11 | zakame | I need an idea to fix this, as I can't commit a fix yet as I'm not near my sid machine atm :( |
| 12:24.30 | s^3 | what is on memcache.c:2203 ? |
| 12:24.55 | zakame | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:26.19 | s^3 | I guess it does not know ms |
| 12:27.24 | s^3 | strange I cannot apt-get source it... |
| 12:27.29 | zakame | hmm struct memcache_server *ms |
| 12:27.51 | zakame | it just got ACCEPTED |
| 12:31.11 | zakame | funny, memcache_server is defined at memcache/memcache.h, and memcache.c should include it, but no, it doesn't seem to do that :( |
| 12:32.48 | s^3 | zakame, where is gai_strerror defined in ? |
| 12:33.09 | zakame | supposedly in <netdb.h> standard header |
| 12:34.21 | zakame | hmm is this supposed to work?: |
| 12:34.22 | zakame | #define __MEMCACHE__ |
| 12:34.22 | zakame | # include "memcache.h" |
| 12:34.22 | zakame | # include "memcache/buffer.h" |
| 12:34.22 | zakame | #undef __MEMCACHE__ |
| 12:34.50 | zakame | those are memcache.c:59-62 |
| 12:41.53 | zakame | anyhow, thanks, gtg wake up early tomorrow :D |
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| 14:53.28 | poweruser23 | hi i just install debian sarge on powerbook5.8 1.67Mhz , kernel-2.4.27 th system can't see my ethernet nic any suggestions? |
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| 16:31.09 | linuxgangster | net-snmp is crashing everytime I poll |
| 16:31.23 | linuxgangster | has anyone tested net-snmpd? |
| 16:31.31 | linuxgangster | or is anyone else getting this problem? |
| 16:48.43 | XYZZZ | Living on sponge cake |
| 16:48.50 | XYZZZ | Watching the sun bake |
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| 17:23.37 | SimonRaven | well mine's working, on 3 machines, and 2 of them ppc... |
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| 18:03.38 | Bor_Ed | hmm, b&w g3/350, 384M ram and 6G drive is worth 40-50eur/usd? |
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| 18:43.16 | fishhead | anyone here done serial bootstrapping with m68k, espically dragonball series?? |
| 18:44.20 | Bor_Ed | #mklinux most probably |
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| 19:06.05 | kattmat | hello |
| 19:06.14 | Bor_Ed | hejsan |
| 19:06.32 | kattmat | hehe. your swedish vocabulary is impressing. :) |
| 19:07.13 | Bor_Ed | I try my best |
| 19:07.39 | Bor_Ed | http://karju.uwasa.fi/cgi-bin/auction.pl?category=pc&item=1139402831 1 eur ~= 9.2 sek, you do the maths |
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