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| 02:47.28 | fishhead | http://www.jumpers.computed.net/ |
| 02:51.24 | fishhead | sorry about the popup folks, apprentely that site is a fake copy of the good site that was a url of jumpers for 1000's of computer parts |
| 02:52.54 | fishhead | http://www.osuweb.net/~ahaning/totalhardware99/ <--- here is the right site including a complete zip file torrent! woop! |
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| 12:46.01 | Tenkawa | morning all |
| 12:51.12 | XYZZZ | Bonjour! |
| 12:51.21 | XYZZZ | You should take a sleep on your hammock |
| 13:00.48 | Tenkawa | heh |
| 13:01.12 | XYZZZ | man, I love Revenge of the Nerds |
| 13:01.15 | XYZZZ | What a classic film |
| 13:01.27 | XYZZZ | It was what motivated me to wear a pocket protector for all those years |
| 13:01.39 | Tenkawa | haahaa |
| 13:01.48 | Tenkawa | that makes me feel old |
| 13:02.08 | XYZZZ | taken up the pipe yet? |
| 13:02.13 | Tenkawa | no |
| 13:03.07 | XYZZZ | when is that going to start? ;) |
| 13:03.19 | XYZZZ | How about one of those sport coats with the leater elbow pads? |
| 13:06.02 | Tenkawa | oh god |
| 13:06.09 | Tenkawa | I havet seen one of those in like 15 years |
| 13:06.16 | XYZZZ | lol |
| 13:06.29 | XYZZZ | they're comming back ;) |
| 13:06.51 | XYZZZ | so, go out and beat the curve |
| 13:07.16 | Tenkawa | no thanks |
| 13:07.33 | Tenkawa | and I will not grow a long rooster tail and tie it up like in RotN 2 |
| 13:08.18 | XYZZZ | LOL |
| 13:08.59 | XYZZZ | remeber those rat tails |
| 13:13.45 | XYZZZ | you a fan of Buffet? |
| 13:16.18 | Tenkawa | no |
| 13:16.26 | Tenkawa | way wrong type of music for me |
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| 14:21.35 | Corsac | johill: do you know where the usbhid-hook-try#.diff are at the moment ? |
| 14:21.56 | johill | uh, on the mailing lists probably only |
| 14:21.58 | johill | and in the git upstream too I think |
| 14:22.35 | johill | http://git.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/dtor/input.git;a=commit;h=eab9edd27f7ceaad6b57085817d63287bda15190 |
| 14:22.59 | Corsac | it'll be included in vanilla kernels ? |
| 14:23.08 | johill | http://git.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=eab9edd27f7ceaad6b57085817d63287bda15190 |
| 14:23.10 | johill | it is |
| 14:23.18 | Corsac | ! |
| 14:25.09 | johill | should already be in 2.6.16-rc1 |
| 14:25.21 | johill | yeah for sure, that was tagged 3 days after the merge |
| 14:27.11 | Corsac | ok |
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| 14:35.11 | Q-FUNK | _rene_: it's not as bad as the submitter makes it sound. it is usable, but lacking part of the compound info, it misses some words. |
| 14:35.38 | _rene_ | Q-FUNK: well, I just read "unusable" which is the definition of "grave" |
| 14:35.52 | Q-FUNK | _rene_: besides, it _is_ built from the ispell dictionary. |
| 14:36.02 | _rene_ | yes, I know |
| 14:36.07 | _rene_ | that's what he objects to |
| 14:36.18 | _rene_ | and I defended that it is built from ispell |
| 14:36.55 | Q-FUNK | yes |
| 14:37.04 | Q-FUNK | which is also what upstream does. |
| 14:37.30 | Q-FUNK | the thing is that since he doesn't have an upstream tarball, he also didn't publish his scripts. |
| 14:37.56 | Q-FUNK | anyhow, upstream and I are already on it. |
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| 14:52.57 | _rene_ | Q-FUNK: may I paste this log to the bugreport? :) |
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| 15:22.00 | fishhead | http://news.com.com/Craigslists+laid-back+approach+to+success/2100-1038_3-6034114.html?tag=nefd.top <----- impressive |
| 15:26.49 | Corsac | «dressed in a black fleece pullover and jeans» |
| 15:26.52 | Corsac | STEVE JOBS ! |
| 15:47.52 | fishhead | W00HOO, NTP'S FINALY PATENT AGAINST BLACKBERRY HAS BEEN TOSSED, HEY NTP "YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE!!!!!!" |
| 15:49.03 | Corsac | ? |
| 15:51.53 | Corsac | hmh |
| 15:52.05 | Corsac | 2.6.15.2 should be sufficient to build softmac, right ? |
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| 15:53.53 | Corsac | ieee80211softmac: Unknown symbol ieee80211_wx_get_scan |
| 15:54.06 | Corsac | should I build the kernel *without* 802.11 stack ? |
| 16:05.45 | Corsac | if I disable ieee80211, softmac loads fine, but I can't build bcm43xx >< |
| 16:06.33 | johill | disable ieee80211 but enable CONFIG_NET_RADIO |
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| 16:09.51 | Corsac | bcm43xx.h:949:4: error: #error "Generic IEEE 802.11 Networking Stack (CONFIG_IEEE80211) not available." |
| 16:09.54 | Corsac | =/ |
| 16:10.03 | johill | heh |
| 16:10.14 | johill | well then fake it or remove the error check |
| 16:10.39 | XYZZZ | LOL |
| 16:10.58 | johill | trust me. |
| 16:11.04 | Corsac | i trust you :) |
| 16:12.39 | XYZZZ | that's the Linux way! |
| 16:12.43 | XYZZZ | Penguins HOOOOOO! |
| 16:20.02 | Corsac | my kernel is still tainted by softmac |
| 16:20.03 | Corsac | ieee80211softmac: no version for "ieee80211_wx_get_scan" found: kernel tainted. |
| 16:20.21 | Corsac | but it's not very important |
| 16:21.11 | johill | that always happens |
| 16:21.15 | Corsac | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:21.17 | Corsac | ouch :p |
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| 17:42.35 | Corsac | hmh, strange, i don't have eject key anymore |
| 17:42.42 | Corsac | no events in evdev.c |
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| 18:01.40 | elSinuX | hello, i'm runing debian 2.6.14-2, on an ibook, I just need to utilise de vga out to proyect a presentation, does any body know how to do it? im runing xorg 6.9.0 |
| 18:03.45 | elSinuX | does any body can help me? thks |
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| 18:21.34 | fishhead | MY PPC BOARD IS HERE! WOOP! |
| 18:22.42 | Bor_Ed | ... |
| 18:22.44 | Bor_Ed | ? |
| 18:26.44 | fishhead | dude I told you guys about the $20 ppc sbc board |
| 18:27.05 | Bor_Ed | mmmrite |
| 18:27.19 | fishhead | are you in us ? |
| 18:27.28 | Bor_Ed | thank gawd no |
| 18:27.30 | fishhead | oh here is the info url |
| 18:27.34 | fishhead | canada? |
| 18:27.39 | Bor_Ed | I saw the url before... |
| 18:27.46 | Bor_Ed | even more, thang gawd no! |
| 18:28.51 | Bor_Ed | when I upgrade my ppc gear, I'll probably get the board from www.pegasosppc.org |
| 18:29.31 | fishhead | oh I am sure that one is probably 100x better |
| 18:29.35 | fishhead | but this was only $20 :P |
| 18:29.53 | Bor_Ed | I'm applying for a free genesi made board... can't beat that :D |
| 18:30.28 | Bor_Ed | only 466MHz board though but it'll do |
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| 18:31.08 | fishhead | plays with http://elinux.org/wiki/DHT-Walnut |
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| 18:45.00 | fishhead | has to head out, be back tonight |
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| 19:24.15 | Corsac | is there a simple way (besides snapshots) to have only softmac+bcm43xx up to date ? |
| 19:24.23 | Corsac | with git you have to check out entire kernel ? |
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| 19:27.10 | johill | yep |
| 19:27.30 | Corsac | and rebuild the entire kernel ? |
| 19:27.33 | johill | but if you already have a git checked out kernel you can reuse the objectgs |
| 19:27.43 | johill | no, you can download the softmac snapshots makefile |
| 19:27.49 | johill | and make a similar one for bcm43xx |
| 19:28.05 | Corsac | i'd like to stay with a stable kernel and only build modules for softmac and bcm43xx |
| 19:28.16 | Corsac | but svn repository for bcm43xx isn't maintained anymore |
| 19:28.24 | elSinuX | Hello, im on an ibook with kernel 2.6.14-2, with xorg 6.9.0. Does any body know how to conf th vga out??? thks |
| 19:28.39 | johill | elSinuX: google and the debian mailing list archives are your friends |
| 19:29.16 | johill | Corsac: right, but you can check out the full kernel with git (preferably using linus' tree and then merging in our changes, saves bandwidth for us) and then build just the modules using SUBDIRS=... |
| 19:29.33 | johill | Corsac: however, snapshots are generated nightly, currently faster than development is ;) |
| 19:32.09 | elSinuX | do you know if in the new realse of xorg the vga out is now suported? |
| 19:33.44 | Corsac | johill: yes but snapshots for bcm43xx has to be applied a kernel tree, right ? |
| 19:34.03 | johill | Corsac: yeah unfortunately, and always onto the latest tree. I think that's rather icky |
| 19:34.22 | johill | I might create a script and real snapshots |
| 19:34.32 | Corsac | so I can't use it with my plain old 2.6.15.2 kernel :p |
| 19:34.50 | johill | nope, only with linus' git tree |
| 19:34.55 | Corsac | ok |
| 19:35.28 | Corsac | i don't know will rene engelhard do for his packages |
| 19:36.31 | johill | I'll make snapshots I think |
| 19:37.38 | Corsac | hmmh |
| 19:37.43 | Corsac | _rene_ was Rene ? |
| 19:37.54 | Corsac | i've made him time out :( |
| 19:41.40 | nefertum | is anybody using the extended mode (with a external CRT) in his ibook? |
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| 19:44.01 | elSinuX | i can't get any image, im with xorg6.9.0 |
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| 20:19.21 | nefertum | is anybody using the extended mode (with a external CRT) in the ibook? |
| 20:35.26 | pahartik | nefertum: i use LCD and CRT side by side, 2048x768 pixels |
| 20:37.36 | nefertum | mmmm, pahartik , could you send me your xorg.conf file? |
| 20:37.53 | nefertum | i cannoy use the extended mode with some monitors... |
| 20:37.57 | nefertum | cannot, sorry |
| 20:38.10 | nefertum | and i'm looking for a xorg.conf wich works better than mine |
| 20:38.22 | pahartik | nefertum: define "some monitors"? |
| 20:38.29 | nefertum | yeah... |
| 20:38.41 | nefertum | with some external monitors it works |
| 20:38.44 | nefertum | with others no |
| 20:39.56 | johill | Corsac, _rene_: looks like I can't provide bcm snapshots -- I can't figure out how to do it with git |
| 20:40.44 | _rene_ | mmh |
| 20:40.45 | pahartik | nefertum: http://zazu.vip.fi/~pahartik/xorg.conf-kiara |
| 20:40.51 | nefertum | oik pahartik , thanks |
| 20:41.00 | _rene_ | I guess I then havwe to work out how to build them... |
| 20:41.10 | _rene_ | but I first will upload 20060125 snapshot of both |
| 20:42.14 | johill | it's not hard. you fetch all the objects from it |
| 20:42.31 | johill | here's the script doing the softmac snapshots: http://softmac.sipsolutions.net/snapshot |
| 20:42.41 | johill | it works trivially on the server where the repository is hosted |
| 20:42.49 | johill | but I can't figure out how to get the objects across the net |
| 20:46.34 | Corsac | and you can't run it somewhere with a tree ? |
| 20:46.49 | _rene_ | johill: btw, are the newest softmac-snspahots know-broken? |
| 20:47.06 | johill | not to me |
| 20:47.10 | johill | what's wrong with them? |
| 20:47.21 | _rene_ | I build 20060202. i.e. got it today morning |
| 20:47.35 | _rene_ | after I built them module loading fails because mismatches with some functions |
| 20:47.40 | Corsac | yes, same here |
| 20:47.41 | _rene_ | exactly those which are changed |
| 20:47.43 | johill | huh |
| 20:47.51 | _rene_ | 20060125 works |
| 20:47.52 | johill | hm |
| 20:48.03 | Corsac | for softmac i had to disabled ieee80211 in the kernel |
| 20:48.11 | Corsac | then comment out the check in bcm43xx |
| 20:48.26 | johill | hm dunno |
| 20:48.38 | johill | I have to go, back in half an hour maybe 45 mins |
| 20:49.10 | Corsac | k |
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| 22:02.25 | johill | uh ok took longer than anticipated |
| 22:06.27 | johill | _rene_: current softmac builds for me |
| 22:06.30 | johill | what are the errors? |
| 22:08.08 | _rene_ | it builds for me too |
| 22:08.17 | _rene_ | but when installing it and then modprob'ing |
| 22:08.20 | _rene_ | it doesn't work |
| 22:08.42 | johill | oh |
| 22:08.47 | XYZZZ | huh? |
| 22:09.10 | _rene_ | as said, claims about a version mismatch in some function. wx_get something. which is from the stuff which is only in the softmac source |
| 22:09.21 | _rene_ | can give you a log, moment... |
| 22:09.27 | johill | yeah got it |
| 22:09.49 | johill | will think about it after sending out the ieee1394 patches |
| 22:09.49 | _rene_ | ah, ok |
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| 22:43.11 | johill | ok. firewire patches posted |
| 22:43.33 | johill | I think the problem here is that it is linking the softmac module against the wrong ieee80211 module |
| 22:43.39 | johill | but I have no idea how to fix that :/ |
| 22:45.26 | XYZZZ | yeah, FW is messed |
| 22:45.31 | XYZZZ | they used Bill Dar's kernel |
| 22:47.18 | johill | huh? |
| 22:47.41 | XYZZZ | a ydl programmer |
| 22:48.06 | johill | but where's firewire messed? |
| 22:48.49 | XYZZZ | conf |
| 22:49.13 | johill | I have no idea what you're talking about |
| 22:49.39 | johill | I was talking about this: http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/2/2/377 |
| 22:49.43 | XYZZZ | /etc/firewire.conf |
| 22:50.25 | johill | never heard of that file before |
| 22:53.06 | XYZZZ | what? |
| 22:53.08 | XYZZZ | are you up? |
| 22:55.30 | johill | eh. wtf are you talking about? are you even talking to me? *looks around* |
| 22:57.28 | XYZZZ | yes, i am |
| 22:57.36 | XYZZZ | join #nothing |
| 22:57.42 | XYZZZ | It's where the real experts go |
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| 23:38.38 | _rene_ | johill: hmm. you mean you can get it to build when rm'ing the modules (or just build conflict against the kernel image. ugly, but...) |
| 23:39.12 | johill | maybe there's an easier way to get it to link against the other ones, dunno |
| 23:39.33 | johill | I'm not too versed in linking foo |
| 23:39.36 | _rene_ | but it worked before, why did it break now? |
| 23:39.58 | johill | probably because now something actually changed in a way that affected symbol versioning |
| 23:40.50 | _rene_ | mmh |
| 23:41.00 | XYZZZ | Joh, it's a distro problem |
| 23:41.05 | XYZZZ | You familar with Buffett? |
| 23:41.09 | _rene_ | ah, well, I'll upload 20060125 of both now and then look... |
| 23:41.10 | johill | I really don't know |
| 23:41.58 | XYZZZ | Well, if he were here, he'd tell you to put your butt in gear |
| 23:43.06 | XYZZZ | Know where I'm comming from? |
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