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| 10:12.06 | Corsac | hmhm |
| 10:12.08 | Corsac | yaird error: no link to block device in /sys/devices/pci0002:24/0002:24:0d.0/ide0/0.0 (fatal) |
| 10:12.11 | Corsac | mkinitrd.yaird failed to create initrd image. |
| 10:12.24 | Corsac | (with linux-image-2.6.15-1-powerpc-7 |
| 10:12.26 | Corsac | à |
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| 10:18.44 | tcsetattr | well, what is in /sys/devices/pci0002:24/0002:24:0d.0/ide0/0.0? |
| 10:21.40 | Corsac | http://paste.debian.net/4707 |
| 10:22.22 | tcsetattr | interesting, block:hda |
| 10:22.35 | Corsac | (running 2.6.16-rc4) |
| 10:22.36 | tcsetattr | what kernel do you have running right now? |
| 10:22.42 | Corsac | soo maybe it's that |
| 10:23.10 | tcsetattr | maybe... I have 2.6.15.4 running and it has "block", not "block:hda" |
| 10:23.16 | Corsac | ok |
| 10:23.30 | Corsac | i'll try rebooting on my 2.6.15 before upgrade |
| 10:23.41 | tcsetattr | it's worth a shot |
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| 13:34.23 | gwon_ | I have a question for anyone willing. I've had problems with ubuntu installing on my iMac G5 (GDM and esd seem to be the culprits) and so I've decided to try out clean debian. Can anyone tell me if an imac G5 install will work, and if there are any problems I should be looking out for. |
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| 13:43.26 | Rstanley | where can I find a debian-specific version of ncurses-devel? |
| 13:43.33 | Rstanley | apt-cache? |
| 13:44.07 | Bor_Ed | it's ncurses5-dev or such on apt |
| 13:44.15 | Rstanley | o.k |
| 13:44.47 | Rstanley | just so I can use menuconfig to compile 2.6.15 |
| 13:44.48 | Bor_Ed | if you need that to kernel compile, better off to get all the deps with build-dep command |
| 13:44.59 | Rstanley | in apt? |
| 13:45.18 | Rstanley | Sorry, I'm a newbie |
| 13:46.04 | Rstanley | So, from the terminal, type in build-dep? |
| 13:46.21 | Bor_Ed | apt-get build-dep <package> |
| 13:46.35 | Rstanley | apt-get install build-dep? |
| 13:46.39 | Bor_Ed | and package being for example kernel-source |
| 13:46.47 | Bor_Ed | no... as I just wrote |
| 13:46.59 | Rstanley | oh. |
| 13:47.17 | Rstanley | apt-get build-dep <ncurses5-dev> |
| 13:47.55 | Bor_Ed | apt-get build-dep kernel-source |
| 13:48.18 | Bor_Ed | if you need the ncurses for kernel compile... if not, put the apps name you want to build to the place of kernel-source |
| 13:48.21 | Rstanley | to get ncurses5-dev |
| 13:48.36 | Rstanley | o.k, thanks! |
| 13:48.37 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: like "apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15", if I recall correctly |
| 13:48.50 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: but to meet the build deps... |
| 13:48.54 | Rstanley | it will install the kernel fo me? |
| 13:49.13 | Bor_Ed | kernel can be installed with apt-get install kernel-image-2.6 |
| 13:49.28 | Rstanley | 2.6.8 is the latest |
| 13:49.36 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: there is no "kernel-source-2.6.15" package |
| 13:49.54 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: right... don't recall the apt names since I always pick vanilla |
| 13:50.18 | Bor_Ed | libncurses5-dev - Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses |
| 13:50.25 | Bor_Ed | seems to be the originally needed package |
| 13:51.12 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: there is no "kernel-image-2.6.15" provided by Debian, it is "linux-image-2.6.15" |
| 13:51.19 | Rstanley | so the command is apt-get install libncurses5-dev? |
| 13:51.27 | Bor_Ed | as I said... I don't use debian kernels |
| 13:51.44 | Bor_Ed | Rstanley: yes, that's the ncurses-devel package for debian |
| 13:51.51 | Rstanley | cool. |
| 13:52.21 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: oh, I thought you meant "kernel binary package provided by Debian" (by "vanilla") |
| 13:52.32 | Bor_Ed | nope :) |
| 13:52.38 | Bor_Ed | vanilla as linus's tree |
| 14:09.51 | Proteque | vanilla ice |
| 14:10.02 | Bor_Ed | ice ice baby :) |
| 14:10.07 | Proteque | hehe |
| 14:10.12 | Proteque | best song ever made :) |
| 14:10.31 | Bor_Ed | weird als version of it ain't bad either |
| 14:10.40 | Proteque | hehe |
| 14:10.46 | Proteque | but the best one is... |
| 14:10.47 | Proteque | hold on |
| 14:10.49 | Proteque | let me find it |
| 14:10.54 | Bor_Ed | rice rice baby |
| 14:13.12 | Proteque | found it |
| 14:13.15 | Proteque | uploading it |
| 14:13.22 | Proteque | http://home.polarboing.com/proteque/download/Ernesto_Aeroflot_-_Vanilla_Scheisse.ogg |
| 14:13.25 | Proteque | this one :) |
| 14:13.27 | Proteque | a friend of mine made it |
| 14:14.09 | Bor_Ed | 100kB? |
| 14:14.51 | Proteque | 5.9MB |
| 14:15.05 | Bor_Ed | right... you don't have it up yet then |
| 14:15.25 | Proteque | http://home.polarboing.com/proteque/Ernesto_Aeroflot_-_Vanilla_Scheisse.ogg sorry wrong url |
| 14:15.52 | Bor_Ed | it's done now? |
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| 14:16.14 | Proteque | yes |
| 14:17.09 | Bor_Ed | ok, lessee |
| 14:17.29 | Proteque | I think it rocks. but could be because I know the author |
| 14:18.38 | Bor_Ed | hmm, X decided to start acting up :o |
| 14:21.09 | Proteque | did you enjoy the song? |
| 14:21.14 | Proteque | or did x crash on you? |
| 14:21.45 | Bor_Ed | X crashed on me... got to check the tune now |
| 14:23.11 | Bor_Ed | not really genre... though nice lyrics |
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| 14:24.47 | Rstanley | The ncurses thing worked out. Once I finish compiling, how do I configure my system to recognize the new kernel? |
| 14:25.08 | Proteque | Rstanley: make the bootloader use it. |
| 14:25.16 | Proteque | was that what you really was asking for? |
| 14:25.17 | Bor_Ed | as you do on any other distro, config bootloader |
| 14:25.22 | Rstanley | how? |
| 14:25.32 | Proteque | you using yaboot? |
| 14:25.35 | Rstanley | yea |
| 14:25.43 | Proteque | yaboot.conf isnt it? |
| 14:25.50 | Proteque | in /etc normally |
| 14:26.06 | Rstanley | I put the vmlinuz image in/boot, right? |
| 14:26.36 | Proteque | that would be a nice place yes. |
| 14:26.56 | Rstanley | how do you edit yaboot.conf |
| 14:27.06 | Proteque | Rstanley: with your favorite texteditor. |
| 14:27.18 | Rstanley | I know that, but with what commands |
| 14:27.19 | Proteque | I dont know any "setuptools". there may be some. |
| 14:27.34 | Proteque | Rstanley: <favoritetexteditor> /etc/yaboot.conf |
| 14:27.50 | Rstanley | In yaboot.conf, what do I edit? |
| 14:27.59 | Proteque | and just look at the other kernels there. and copy those lines |
| 14:28.07 | Proteque | and change name and kernel |
| 14:28.29 | Proteque | I dont remember the correct words here. I only have x64-computers where I am athm |
| 14:28.32 | Proteque | atm |
| 14:28.38 | Proteque | x86 even |
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| 16:07.09 | gwon_ | I've just installed debian onto my imac G5 using a nightly netinst disk. GDM is causing my mouse and keyboard to lock up. Is there a way of disabling GDM before it loads? |
| 16:07.58 | gwon_ | (note: keyboard fully locked up, can't use ctrl+alt+fXX |
| 16:14.45 | pahartik | gwon_: append "single" to kernel boot parameters |
| 16:29.10 | gwon_ | thanks |
| 16:29.42 | astrum-x | does anyone have a link to a guide to get a mac to boot debian from the cd or whatever media? |
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| 16:32.02 | astrum-x | an oldworld mac |
| 16:36.26 | gwon_ | pahartik: how do I go about appending 'single' ? I tried getting as far as boot: and typing 'Linux -single' which still tried to launch GDM, so I'll assume I got it wrong :) |
| 16:41.30 | pahartik | gwon_: at least "-" is not supposed to be there |
| 16:46.15 | astra-x | so i have a question, to have linux on an old world mac, you have to keep mac os x on there? |
| 16:46.18 | astra-x | err mac os 9 |
| 16:48.01 | astra-x | is no one out there wise, the documentation i am finding is rather useless |
| 16:53.04 | pahartik | astra-x: if "quik" does not work for your hardware configuration, you need to use "BootX" from traditional MacOS |
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| 16:56.43 | astra-x | pahartik, i have Bootx, but what exactly am i doing with bootx? and i getting bootx to boot my debian cd? |
| 16:58.19 | pahartik | astra-x: copy kernel image and ramdisk image to HFS or HFS+ filesystem so that BootX can start Debian GNU/Linux installer... |
| 17:01.56 | astra-x | what does the ramdisk image look like, pahartik? |
| 17:07.42 | pahartik | astra-x: like "/debian/dists/unstable/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/netboot/initrd.gz" |
| 17:08.03 | astra-x | initrd.gz is the ramdisk, and the vmlinuz is the kernel? |
| 17:08.21 | astra-x | i always use bzImages, and there are none |
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| 17:09.33 | pahartik | astra-x: bzImage is some wintel quirk |
| 17:10.08 | astra-x | :(. when i compile my kernels, bzImages are spewed out. and grub understands them |
| 17:10.24 | pahartik | astra-x: kernel image is usually "vmlinux" |
| 17:11.16 | astra-x | and if i have no non hfs partitions yet, what should i pass at the root device? |
| 17:11.37 | astra-x | /dev/hdb1? |
| 17:16.02 | pahartik | astra-x: when you define "ramdisk image" to be loaded on BootX dialog, it sets something like "root=ramdisk" automatically |
| 17:16.29 | astra-x | where did i define ramdisk image at? |
| 17:16.33 | pahartik | astra-x: no need to define "root" for installer manually |
| 17:16.45 | astra-x | it kernel panics when i don't define root |
| 17:17.10 | pahartik | astra-x: there is settings dialog that opens MacOS file selector for choosing ramdisk image |
| 17:17.41 | astra-x | ahh, gotcha |
| 17:20.08 | astra-x | wow |
| 17:20.13 | astra-x | i just learned alot, thanks pahartik |
| 17:22.10 | pahartik | astra-x: you are welcome... I hope "quik" works for you... what kind of workstation are you installing on? |
| 17:25.04 | astra-x | it is a powermac g3 300 mhz 1 meg cache |
| 17:25.08 | astra-x | beige |
| 17:26.06 | pahartik | astra-x: with SCSI harddisk? |
| 17:26.22 | astra-x | no, it is an ide |
| 17:26.34 | astra-x | the scsi i have is only 1 gig big |
| 17:26.39 | astra-x | not good enough for a server |
| 17:27.32 | astra-x | this is going to be my companies new lamp server :) |
| 17:27.51 | pahartik | astra-x: Bor_Ed might know if SCSI would be easier for that model... |
| 17:28.01 | astra-x | well it is installing ok |
| 17:28.07 | astra-x | does it install quick for you? |
| 17:28.35 | pahartik | astra-x: that does not tell whether "quik" is able to boot anything from IDE on that workstation |
| 17:28.58 | astra-x | lets cross our fingers and hope then |
| 17:29.05 | astra-x | cause i am pretty sure mac os 9 was just wipped |
| 17:30.44 | astra-x | why does the firmware on old world macs suck? |
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| 17:33.49 | pahartik | astra-x: they only paid attention for MacOS ROM to be bootable... and it was special case on OldWorld workstations... NewWorld workstations do not have MacOS ROM in same sense |
| 17:35.22 | astra-x | no, i've installed linux on my ibook with ease, well for the most part |
| 17:35.29 | astra-x | and the news macs are nice and friendly |
| 17:35.32 | astra-x | will boot your cds |
| 17:37.06 | astra-x | they have a slot for that rom in there, they should vend linux roms |
| 17:37.22 | pahartik | astra-x: I have been running Linux for years on OldWorld PowerMacintoshes (5500, 7500, 7300)... and recently for 14 moons on iBook G4 (late 2004 model)... |
| 17:37.41 | astra-x | isn't late 2004 new world? |
| 17:38.21 | pahartik | astra-x: any iMac and iBook is NewWorld |
| 17:38.34 | astra-x | so that was easier correct? |
| 17:40.19 | pahartik | astra-x: yes, but I had to wait for support of suspend-to-RAM for about six moons... that did mean lots of rebooting as I was moving between my cave and office |
| 17:41.08 | astra-x | why did you keep os x on there? i run 10.4.4 on 500 g3 ibook with no problems? |
| 17:41.48 | astra-x | *didn't |
| 17:42.19 | pahartik | astra-x: I did keep MacOS X for almost six moons but booted it maybe 10 times... only used it for short testing of things |
| 17:43.08 | astra-x | the applications you need to run are mac os x only? |
| 17:43.35 | pahartik | astra-x: rebooting was annoying every time I got on bus... but it did not take too much time :) |
| 17:43.36 | astra-x | excuse me |
| 17:43.49 | astra-x | why do you need linux over mac os x? |
| 17:43.52 | astra-x | for your lappy? |
| 17:44.51 | pahartik | astra-x: I specifically wanted nice non-wintel portable computer, and iBook G4 is one... |
| 17:45.09 | astra-x | it is |
| 17:45.17 | astra-x | but almost every application you can run in linux |
| 17:45.27 | astra-x | you can run in mac os x 10.3 or newer |
| 17:46.03 | astra-x | i hate apple for switching to intel. i think they'll regret down the road |
| 17:46.11 | astra-x | why did they take the cell processor for the new macs? |
| 17:46.30 | pahartik | astrum-x: if I had another iBook G4, maybe I would run MacOS X on it |
| 17:47.05 | astra-x | alright quick install failed, :) |
| 17:47.14 | astra-x | and macos9 is gone |
| 17:48.55 | pahartik | astra-x: now you probably should install traditional MacOS again and try installing Linux with SCSI harddisk for storing "/" filesystem on... |
| 17:49.47 | astra-x | pahartik, i am going to try formatting an ext2 partition |
| 17:49.49 | astra-x | and maybe that'll work |
| 17:50.23 | pahartik | astra-x: oh yes, you are right |
| 17:50.52 | astra-x | is there a good lamp guide for debian? |
| 17:50.55 | pahartik | astra-x: at least "/boot/" should be "ext2" filesystem |
| 17:51.11 | astra-x | well i am going to format / with ext2, and /boot is in that partition |
| 17:52.19 | pahartik | astra-x: Debian installer however does not understand if "/" is separate from "/boot/", so if one wants to install it that way, it has to be tweaked manually within installer |
| 17:54.18 | pahartik | astra-x: I did create "ext3" filesystem "/" and "ext2" filesystem "/boot/" but I cannot really give instructions how to exactly perform it, it requires persistence and some skills :) |
| 17:54.52 | astra-x | i just debians easy to use partition manager |
| 17:56.33 | pahartik | astra-x: if one is satisfied with whole "/" as "ext2" filesystem, Debian installer should have no problems on doing it automatically |
| 17:57.44 | astra-x | that'd be slow for a webserver |
| 17:58.00 | astra-x | but does debian have a lamp guide? |
| 17:59.57 | pahartik | astra-x: define "lamp"? |
| 18:00.28 | astrum-x | linux apache mysql perl.php.python |
| 18:02.14 | pahartik | astrum-x: oh, one just installs needed Debian packages with "aptitude" or "apt-get" (for example) and edits configuration files appropriately...? |
| 18:02.36 | astrum-x | yeah its those damn .conf files i always forget how to edit properly |
| 18:03.18 | KiBi | linux apache mysql php |
| 18:03.25 | astrum-x | what version of apahce is in etch? |
| 18:04.51 | pahartik | astrum-x: there is nothing really Debian-specific in Linux, Apache, MySQL or Python... they are just neatly packaged |
| 18:05.31 | astrum-x | so if i apt-get install apache the meta package, i wonder if it is 2.0 |
| 18:05.34 | astrum-x | i hope it is 2.0 |
| 18:05.37 | astrum-x | or 2.0 |
| 18:06.17 | astrum-x | working whilst you are hungry allows you to make tons of typos |
| 18:06.28 | pahartik | astrum-x: one just has to understand Debian package management to be comfortable with maintaining Debian installations |
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| 18:09.59 | pahartik | astrum-x: "apache" and "apache2" are available... (my "/etc/apt/sources.list" includes "stable", "testing" and "unstable" sources) |
| 18:10.49 | astrum-x | this is production |
| 18:10.53 | astrum-x | so i have to use stable |
| 18:11.10 | astrum-x | quik just fried my system |
| 18:11.14 | astrum-x | ALRIGHT!!!! |
| 18:11.37 | astrum-x | oh btw, astrum-x and astra-x are one in the same, just one is my lappy and one is my workstation |
| 18:13.42 | astrum-x | so pahartik, if quik destroys your firmware |
| 18:13.45 | astrum-x | what do you do then? |
| 18:18.44 | pahartik | astrum-x: it does not destroy firmware... |
| 18:20.12 | astrum-x | do you command,option,p,r? |
| 18:21.08 | pahartik | astrum-x: if it is "stuck", OpenFirmware is probably waiting for input with terminal on serial port... and yes, <Command>-<Option>-P-R while restarting should help |
| 18:21.34 | astrum-x | ok |
| 18:21.47 | astrum-x | now what? i get the floppy disk with a question mark |
| 18:22.40 | pahartik | astrum-x: install traditional MacOS and try installing Linux on SCSI harddisk... |
| 18:23.04 | astrum-x | that is my only option? |
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| 18:24.55 | pahartik | astrum-x: if you really prefer using IDE harddisk, you can keep minimal traditional MacOS for booting Linux through BootX |
| 18:25.49 | astrum-x | for a server though |
| 18:25.52 | astrum-x | that is not practical |
| 18:26.18 | pahartik | astrum-x: I agree |
| 18:27.13 | astrum-x | would i be able to us bootx again i installed mac os 8? |
| 18:27.23 | astrum-x | all i have is os 8 media |
| 18:28.11 | pahartik | astrum-x: use SCSI "/" and IDE "/usr/", for example... (IDE is never good, especially for server... but... we do not live in optimal world) |
| 18:29.24 | astrum-x | maybe i just installed the scsi disk |
| 18:29.25 | astrum-x | hmm |
| 18:31.21 | astrum-x | will install |
| 18:31.22 | pahartik | astrum-x: "BootX" should work fine with MacOS 8... but you probably need to find something like "MacOS disk image" to copy "BootX" from, as recent "StuffIT expander" is not available for old MacOS versions |
| 18:31.27 | astrum-x | and that has os 9 on it and try again |
| 18:31.46 | astrum-x | old mac os stuff is terrible |
| 18:32.13 | astrum-x | i am tempted to give up on the g3 |
| 18:32.18 | astrum-x | and just my pentiumII i have laying around |
| 18:32.26 | astrum-x | good old x86 stuff never fails me |
| 18:35.50 | pahartik | astrum-x: I think "http://pahartik.iki.fi/~pahartik/Macintosh/5400.img" does have "BootX" on disk image file that can be mounted on "Disk Copy" of traditional MacOS... |
| 18:36.25 | pahartik | astrum-x: I do not have wintels in my cave... :) |
| 18:40.40 | pahartik | astrum-x: but they are stable and nice once set up properly... for example my DVB server is PowerMacintosh 7500 (with PowerPC 604e) and runs just fine for over 100 days until I feel like upgrading kernel and try newer DVB drivers... two DVB-C tuners, e1000 ethernet adapter, nice 72 GiB SCSI harddisk to store content on :) |
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| 19:03.20 | astrum-x | DVB and digital video broadcasting? |
| 19:03.31 | astrum-x | you should see my farm setup |
| 19:03.34 | astrum-x | i have an openbsd router |
| 19:03.50 | astrum-x | the calander, email, and groupware sever is solaris 10 |
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| 19:04.06 | astrum-x | and this is nice ppc debian server |
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| 19:10.14 | pahartik | astrum-x: my LAN does have Linux workstations and servers (Alpha, PowerPC, SPARC),,, oh, I do use OpenBSD on SPARC too |
| 19:12.58 | astra-x | nice |
| 19:13.04 | astra-x | what is your server farm like? |
| 19:13.26 | astra-x | wait |
| 19:13.34 | astra-x | do i even need to install mac os 9? |
| 19:13.40 | astra-x | oh i do damnit |
| 19:14.54 | astra-x | do you think 1 gig is enough hard drive space for apache, msyql, and php? |
| 19:18.53 | astrum-x | you have real alpha servers there? |
| 19:19.01 | astrum-x | do you have vms running? |
| 19:20.30 | pahartik | astrum-x: I run Linux on my Alphas |
| 19:20.41 | astrum-x | :( |
| 19:20.44 | astrum-x | but vms is so |
| 19:20.45 | astrum-x | mature |
| 19:21.25 | astrum-x | do you think that 1 gig of storage is enough pahartik? |
| 19:21.40 | pahartik | astrum-x: I never really got to touch VMS |
| 19:23.00 | pahartik | astrum-x: I used application on VMS 10 years ago, but never really had time to look around that system |
| 19:23.34 | astrum-x | ahh |
| 19:23.50 | astrum-x | but in your opinion do you think 1 gig is enough for my server? |
| 19:26.40 | pahartik | astrum-x: possibly, but I do not know what kind of content you are hosting... |
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| 19:26.47 | pahartik | astrum-x: I would say that 1 GiB is usually enough for operating system and server applications but not data... |
| 19:26.48 | astrum-x | it is just one small cms |
| 19:26.50 | astrum-x | e107 |
| 19:32.10 | pahartik | astrum-x: if amount of data is small, 1 GiB could be enough |
| 19:32.58 | astrum-x | yeah i'll just small swap space |
| 19:35.00 | astrum-x | OHH |
| 19:35.04 | astrum-x | there is 3.2 gigabytes! |
| 19:39.23 | astrum-x | how do you edit start up items in debian? |
| 19:39.58 | astrum-x | like startup daemons? |
| 19:40.09 | KiBi | /etc/init.d/xxx start/stop ? |
| 19:40.15 | KiBi | Oh, edit them. |
| 19:40.26 | KiBi | update-initrc.d or sth like that. |
| 19:40.40 | astrum-x | there is a command line utility? |
| 19:42.11 | pahartik | astrum-x: "rcconf" or "update-rc.d" |
| 19:42.33 | KiBi | Oops :-) |
| 19:43.17 | astrum-x | hooray |
| 19:48.03 | astrum-x | does IBM make a POWER laptop nowadays? |
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| 20:39.38 | astra-x | this seems nice enough |
| 20:39.47 | astra-x | is anyone handling an email server and webmail? |
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| 20:40.30 | Corsac | yes |
| 20:40.34 | Corsac | (but not on ppc) |
| 20:40.38 | astra-x | that is fine |
| 20:40.42 | astra-x | how are you doing it? |
| 20:40.50 | astra-x | i just need some guidelining |
| 20:40.51 | makeio | hello, one question!, is possible install FreeNX-server on debian ppc?? |
| 20:40.54 | Corsac | postfix+courier-imap+squirrel |
| 20:40.56 | astra-x | i am an it for a company of 11 people |
| 20:41.17 | astra-x | how long does it take to configure those? |
| 20:41.24 | Corsac | there are plenty of howtos for installing a mailserver with imap/pop and webmail |
| 20:41.42 | astra-x | i was thinking about using |
| 20:41.45 | KiBi | astra-x: A couple of minutes. |
| 20:41.47 | astra-x | sun java messaging server |
| 20:41.52 | astra-x | kibi, thanks |
| 20:41.54 | KiBi | Now let's define "couple". :-) |
| 20:41.57 | Corsac | :p |
| 20:42.02 | KiBi | Java? |
| 20:42.06 | KiBi | IRK!!! |
| 20:42.21 | astra-x | my mail server was going to run on solaris |
| 20:42.36 | astra-x | it is just the sun calander, webmail, and colobration stuff |
| 20:43.05 | astra-x | quik sucks |
| 20:43.17 | astra-x | it refuses to install on my ext2 formatted scsi /boot/ |
| 20:44.06 | SimonRaven | astra-x: install it manually |
| 20:44.45 | SimonRaven | you might have to "fake out" the installer and leave /boot unmounted, then, fix all that up when you're booted to the new sysytem |
| 20:44.57 | SimonRaven | system* |
| 20:46.13 | SimonRaven | quik doesn't suck half as much as you think. it sucks in other ways, but p2-mate's work on it has made it much less sucky |
| 20:47.22 | astra-x | erm |
| 20:47.26 | astra-x | huh? |
| 20:47.52 | astra-x | so don't mount boot |
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| 20:50.55 | astra-x | do you think the x86 solaris mail server would play nice with my debian ppc webserver? |
| 20:53.15 | astra-x | do you think journaling is really that iimportant? |
| 20:53.22 | astra-x | all for the sake of fucking quik to install |
| 20:53.24 | astra-x | fucking fuck fuck |
| 20:59.23 | avar | indeed |
| 21:00.57 | astra-x | sorry |
| 21:00.58 | astra-x | anyway |
| 21:01.26 | astra-x | courier-imap |
| 21:01.40 | astra-x | postfix and squirrelmail |
| 21:01.46 | astra-x | what database do you recommend? |
| 21:10.54 | astra-x | so if quik refuses to install |
| 21:11.00 | astra-x | what does one do? |
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| 21:33.16 | astra-x | what are alternate methods to install quik? |
| 21:39.15 | astra-x | echo echo echo echo |
| 21:44.12 | SimonRaven | are you installing it from the installer? |
| 21:44.18 | astra-x | i tried that |
| 21:44.29 | astra-x | now i have the /bin/sh in the installer up |
| 21:45.09 | SimonRaven | no, from there. do what i said ^^. i'm speaking from having done it already |
| 21:45.19 | SimonRaven | er, *not* from there |
| 21:46.26 | astra-x | ok |
| 21:46.35 | astra-x | i am sort of confused |
| 21:46.41 | astra-x | you are not being entirely clear |
| 21:47.02 | SimonRaven | all you need to do is move the stuff out of /'s /boot, and mount /boot (make *sure* it's ext2), then move the stuff there. edit /boot/quik.conf (with a symlink to /etc) and change partition= and root= to match |
| 21:47.06 | SimonRaven | sec |
| 21:47.26 | astra-x | yeah |
| 21:47.41 | astra-x | but quik refuses to install into the firmware |
| 21:48.12 | SimonRaven | it doesn't install to firmware |
| 21:48.54 | SimonRaven | http://simonraven.nuit.ca/bin/view/Know/QuikBootSetupOptions |
| 21:52.40 | astra-x | alright |
| 21:52.47 | astra-x | at this point i've pretty much given up for the day |
| 21:52.56 | astra-x | to tired and angry for this |
| 21:53.32 | SimonRaven | yeh. take a break from it. do it with a clear head. and i am sometimes unclear :) |
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