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| 01:07.09 | taggart | it appears the yaboot config is correct, it's got the right paths and partitions, etc |
| 01:07.35 | taggart | and yaboot comes up and tries to boot the defaul image, but then it just hangs |
| 01:08.22 | taggart | this is a new IDE HDD (80gb, so below the 120-something restriction) |
| 01:08.44 | taggart | is there any issue with booting off such a large disk? |
| 01:09.03 | taggart | or anything fancy that I need to do to the disk to make it bootable |
| 01:09.23 | taggart | the disk was partitioned by d-i and only has linux on it, |
| 01:09.54 | taggart | hda1 = partition map |
| 01:10.01 | taggart | hda2 = bootstrap |
| 01:10.05 | taggart | hda3 = root |
| 01:10.10 | taggart | hda4 = swap |
| 01:10.49 | taggart | any ideas of how to fix it? I can boot the install media in rescue mode and try things |
| 01:11.08 | taggart | I've tried yabootconfig, ybin, etc |
| 01:48.17 | SimonRaven | forgot the initrd? |
| 02:01.39 | taggart | SimonRaven: I expect the kernel would complain about that, it seems like the boot loader isn't handing off to the kernel properel |
| 02:01.58 | taggart | if I try a different path, it comes back right away with not found |
| 02:02.14 | taggart | so I think it's trying to load it, but getting stuck |
| 02:02.44 | taggart | is the 3.1r1a ppc netinst CD known to work on imac's? |
| 02:03.08 | taggart | I'm trying it and it's having problems after the keyboard selection screen |
| 02:15.13 | SimonRaven | supposed to work. check the list |
| 02:35.18 | SimonRaven | mailing list (debian-powerpc@lists.d.o) |
| 02:43.17 | taggart | I'm wondering if there are hardware issues or something |
| 02:47.13 | SimonRaven | with the installer? AFAIK no, but maybe you can ask in #debian-boot. but be nice (like you are now :) 'cause they're busy, and might not answer right away |
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| 03:36.35 | decklin | does anyone here use rxvt-unicode? |
| 05:29.19 | taggart | how does d-i setup openfirmware machines to boot? |
| 05:30.00 | taggart | when mine boots it briefly gets an OS chooser, which then switches to yaboot after a timeout |
| 05:30.33 | demon | depends if it's oldworld or newworld |
| 05:30.37 | taggart | in OF boot-device is set to "hd:2,\\:tbxi" |
| 05:30.40 | taggart | newworld |
| 05:31.48 | demon | so it just installs yaboot onto the bootstrap partition and sets (or should set) boot-device to a device path that'll refer to \\:tbxi on the bootstrap filesystem |
| 05:32.35 | taggart | so the bootstrap partition has a config file for tbxi and di sets that up to boot yaboot? |
| 05:32.49 | demon | :tbxi isn't a file |
| 05:33.34 | demon | \\:tbxi tells openfirmware "look in this filesystem, find the 'blessed' folder, and load the file with creator 'tbxi' as the boot image" |
| 05:33.38 | taggart | I'm still trying to figure out why this imac won't boot |
| 05:33.45 | taggart | ah ok on the tbxi thing |
| 05:34.04 | demon | what kind of imac? |
| 05:34.08 | demon | g3, g4, g5? |
| 05:34.56 | taggart | 233 bondi blue rev B |
| 05:35.08 | taggart | this is exactly the problem I'm seeing http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77004.html |
| 05:35.39 | demon | okay... that's pretty old, should work fine... so it never gets to actually displaying linux kernel messages? |
| 05:35.48 | taggart | nope |
| 05:35.54 | taggart | boots from CD fine |
| 05:36.53 | demon | if you drop to OF and type 'boot hd:2,\\yaboot', does the same thing happen? |
| 05:37.54 | taggart | ok tried, and the same thing happens |
| 05:38.14 | taggart | "Please wait, loading kernel..." |
| 05:38.30 | taggart | is "hd" an OF alias? |
| 05:38.37 | demon | yes |
| 05:38.47 | taggart | there's only one disk in the machine |
| 05:39.07 | demon | yeah, I figured as much |
| 05:39.20 | taggart | and if I try something like hd:3... it comes back immediately saying not found |
| 05:39.29 | taggart | so I assume "hd" is fine |
| 05:39.39 | taggart | I've tried using the long path for things too |
| 05:39.42 | demon | 'hd' refers to the first hard disk |
| 05:39.50 | taggart | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:40.01 | demon | hd:2 refers to the second partition on the first disk |
| 05:40.48 | taggart | any chance a firmware update would help? |
| 05:40.59 | demon | dunno, maybe |
| 05:41.11 | taggart | I've found the update on the apple site, but I don't really know if my machine is out of date |
| 05:41.27 | taggart | for all I know it's running the latest firmware already |
| 05:42.44 | taggart | there is both an OF version and a bootrom version right? |
| 05:43.11 | taggart | when I enter OF it lists 3.0.f2 as the OF version |
| 05:43.12 | demon | er... huh? it's all packaged into one ROM image |
| 05:43.19 | demon | oh |
| 05:43.29 | demon | dunno about that, that sounds likely |
| 05:45.19 | taggart | the latest firmware update is http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60384 |
| 05:46.02 | taggart | I don't know how "1.2" compares to the actual firmware version, it wouldn't surprise me if they are two different version schemes |
| 05:54.22 | taggart | so the 1.2 update doesn't mention anything that seems relevant, but it says it includes update 1.1 |
| 05:54.35 | taggart | I found the release notes for 1.1 http://searchdocs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58179&coll=cp |
| 05:56.18 | taggart | there is some stuff in 1.1 that might be the problem |
| 05:56.53 | taggart | now I gotta locate and put the MacOS HDD back in in order to run the update :( |
| 06:14.28 | taggart | ok Firmware update 1.1 was released on 18 December, 1998 |
| 06:14.54 | taggart | and Firmware update 2.2 was released on 1999-05-25 |
| 06:15.28 | taggart | my OF says that it's "Open Firmware 3.0.f2 built on 04/23/99" |
| 06:15.38 | taggart | so I must be up to date |
| 06:15.44 | taggart | s/2.2/1.2/ |
| 06:16.43 | taggart | damn, so much for that theory |
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| 11:23.04 | Q-FUNK | something tells me that now would be a good time to put a larger HDD in this iMac, before I get mad... |
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| 13:19.04 | Proteque_ | what ppc-installimage should I use on OpenPower 720? |
| 13:32.53 | LottoKim | Hvilke alternativer har du? |
| 13:36.58 | Proteque_ | Står vel mellom CHRP og PReP |
| 13:37.18 | LottoKim | prøv PReP |
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| 14:15.05 | Proteque_ | LottoKim: takker. skal prøve det |
| 14:17.43 | LottoKim | Ellers er suse et veldig godt valg for de boksene |
| 14:24.13 | _rene_ | speak english. |
| 14:33.14 | Proteque_ | _rene_: sorry |
| 14:33.22 | Proteque_ | LottoKim: thats what IBM wants us to use. |
| 14:33.30 | Proteque_ | LottoKim: but we dont want to use it. |
| 14:33.40 | LottoKim | what about gentoo? |
| 14:33.56 | Proteque_ | LottoKim: not in a million years. hehe |
| 14:35.00 | LottoKim | OpenSuse? |
| 15:40.31 | Bor_Ed | opensuse might run on newworld macs but probably not on anything else |
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| 17:41.41 | chkbsd | hi |
| 17:42.00 | chkbsd | how to get j2re working on ppc? |
| 17:42.38 | Bor_Ed | download and install it, create the symlink of the java and javac to somewhere in $PATH and that's it |
| 17:43.25 | chkbsd | there is a 1.5 j2re for ppc on sun.com? |
| 17:43.35 | Bor_Ed | lol no |
| 17:43.39 | Bor_Ed | ibm offers that though |
| 17:55.24 | chkbsd | p32/series for ppc? |
| 17:55.40 | Bor_Ed | iirc, yup |
| 17:56.03 | Bor_Ed | file name is similar to ibm-java2-sdk-50-linux-ppc.tgz |
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