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00:08.14Alverpahartik: ahhh... right, found it. Testing now. ;)
00:10.53AlverYeaaa... nice
00:11.14AlverNow I'll just have to wait to get the airport extreme fully supported to revert that defaultos back to linux ;)
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03:13.01kerneldArghhh! My Studio display 21" has messed up. Anyone had this happen? The horizontal scan is shrunk to about 2/5 of the width of the display, and anything above 800x600 yeilds badly synced lines which are illegible
03:14.05paulproteus|laptTo what extent is this problem new?
03:14.08paulproteus|laptAnd what does your X config say?
03:14.24paulproteus|laptIf you specify the HorizSync and VertRefresh, try commenting them out.
03:14.41kerneldIt just happened. Same thing on OSX, I have had the same X config for months, years even
03:14.48kerneldXorg
03:15.15paulproteus|laptOh, same thing in OS X?
03:15.24paulproteus|laptWait a sec.
03:15.27paulproteus|laptIs this an LCD or a CRT?
03:16.29kerneldI think some of the higher frequency horizontal scan control hardware failed.  When its playing up there is an autible squeeling from the display, Now I have it at 800x60 and the display is clean, just squeezed down to 30% horizontally
03:16.39kerneldIts the big blue 21" CRT
03:16.54paulproteus|laptA Samsung monitor of mine died like a few years back.
03:17.31kerneld:/  did you try taking to a TV repair place for service?
03:18.06paulproteus|laptNo.  That makes sense.  I wonder why I didn't think of that....
03:18.46kerneldDang. Everthing is breaking for me at the worst time. Digital camera just stopped working after about 4 years, monitor dies after about the same
03:22.29kerneldJust after I get retrenched because the company I work for has gone bust :/
03:22.52kerneldand that is a couple weeks after got a new car.
03:22.52paulproteus|laptOuch.  Sorry to hear that.
03:22.59paulproteus|laptDoes the car work okay...?
03:23.00kerneldSometimes the world sucks
03:23.08kerneldCar is good.
03:23.14paulproteus|laptWell, good.
03:23.20paulproteus|laptThen you should go take it for a drive and relax. (-:
03:23.27kerneldhehe
03:23.44kerneld, oh but gas prices just spiked up too
03:25.13paulproteus|lapt(-:
03:25.21paulproteus|laptSee, there's cause for hope yet!
03:25.42kerneldJust there is no damned work down where I am
03:26.48kerneldCar/Mortgage/3 month old baby + no job = pain, then everything starts breaking
03:33.21kerneldhe, vagabond :P
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03:33.48bbelt16aghello everone
03:33.57paulproteus|laptHello bbelt16ag.
03:34.13pahartikkerneld: I just avoid responsibility of any kind
03:34.37bbelt16agall right i got my  log file
03:35.13paulproteus|laptIngenious.
03:35.32bbelt16agheh
03:35.39bbelt16agit  find the  ATI card
03:35.45bbelt16aggetting a  Signal  7 error
03:36.13bbelt16ag<PROTECTED>
03:36.16kerneldAny news on the future of IBMs PPC platforms now that they are the only show in town for the arch?
03:36.54bbelt16ag:)
03:37.02bbelt16agapple is not  going to stay with ppc  for their server?
03:37.40paulproteus|laptWell, I doubt it.
03:37.46paulproteus|laptI don't see why they would.
03:40.00bbelt16ag<PROTECTED>
03:40.14bbelt16agso i386 is  better all around?
03:40.39bbelt16agfreaking usb pen drive dosnt work now WTF
03:40.52bbelt16agseriously
03:40.55bbelt16agthis should work
03:41.06bbelt16ag<PROTECTED>
03:41.11bbelt16agdosnt eve tell me the  error
03:42.47paulproteus|laptbbelt16ag: Well, i386 is cheapter.
03:42.52paulproteus|laptIntel has a huge R&D budget.
03:42.55paulproteus|laptSad but true.
03:45.49paulproteus|laptAMD also has a huge R&D budget, and they're doing extremely well lately.
03:45.58kerneld:)
03:46.02paulproteus|lapt>1/3 of desktop CPUs, I think, and they're increasing in servers, too.
03:46.44kerneldthe AMD chips at least have better architectural lineage
03:47.46bbelt16ag:)anybody know what a  signal 7 abort means?
03:47.53bbelt16agfor  xfree86?
03:52.01pahartikbbelt16ag: I still have not seen your X11 server logfile or configuration file, but try to toggle value of "UseFBDev"...
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05:24.37bbelt16agthis sounds like a lost cause
05:24.56bbelt16agi am getting a nividia  card and putting it in it or dealing with the  CLI for everything
05:25.20Q-FUNKSimonRaven: :D
05:27.31bbelt16ag* sigh*
05:27.39bbelt16agi will show you the dang configs tomorrow
05:27.41bbelt16agtired
05:42.34Q-FUNKsvenl: here?
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05:57.16ireverentReverenHello
05:57.57ireverentReverenI am trying to install debian on a bondi blue, and after running through the install I am getting the "default catch" error from the open firmware.... googleing doesnt seemt ot help... any advice?
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06:44.26SimonRavenhi Q-FUNK
06:45.32SimonRaven@srs bin/view/Know/MacPPCFAQ
06:45.38ravenbirdhttp://simonraven.nuit.ca/bin/view/Know/MacPPCFAQ
06:45.41SimonRavenireverentReveren: ^^^
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13:52.10ireverentReverenSimonRaven thanks... that was the sort of thing i was finding with google.... doesnt help me much, i guess
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14:41.53Corsacahoo, 2.6.16 out
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16:04.21devazionIn topic it says "Debian CDs are not and cannot be bootable on OldWorld PowerMacs."... Does iMac G3 (233mhz) count as OldWorld?
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16:05.05DelTreeG3 should be oldworld, but it has to be checked...
16:05.15Corsacnot every g3
16:05.16DelTreethere are a feuw newworld G3...
16:05.20DelTree-u
16:05.24Corsaci have a newworld pb g3
16:05.26Corsaclombard
16:05.30Corsacpismo are newworld too
16:06.00DelTreedevazion: can you give the exact model ?
16:06.03devazionHmm, this one seems to be an oldie... It's a weak 233mhz with 32MB ram or something... It's the first blue iMac...
16:06.17devazionDelTree: I havn't got the exact model number here today... =/
16:06.38DelTreedevazion: you'll need it to be sure...
16:07.42devazionDelTree: Yeah, ofcourse! I will get in anyday, though I was wondering if G3 was "on the edge" of OldWorld. As it seems, I might be in trouble...
16:08.04DelTreein trouble ?
16:09.46devazionDelTree: Yeah, out of date... Not beeing able to boot Debian =(
16:11.09DelTreeshould be possible to install debian on oldworld... not as easy than on newnorld, but still possible...
16:11.18DelTrees/than/as
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16:17.47devazionAccording to http://r-goetz.de/RGBench/rg_bench_hardware.html PowerMac G3 @ 233Mhz are PowerPC 750, right? And according to http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/install the powerpc kernel will work with 750... The iMac G3 is PowerMac G3 right? (newbie)
16:18.46devazionDoes it sound correct or am I totally lost? ;)
16:19.32pahartikdevazion: correct information
16:20.09devazionpahartik: Thanks! Then I should be on NewWorld, right? :D *fuzzy*
16:21.56pahartikdevazion: iMac was NewWorld since beginning
16:22.57devazionpahartik: Thanks alot! That made it all clear to me. That will do for me! Once more, thanks. :)
16:23.14DelTreeimac G3 ?
16:23.26devazionYeah?
16:24.05DelTreedidn't I see something with the situation being different depending on the color ?
16:24.27DelTreeor is it broken openfirmware on some imac G3 ?
16:25.16devazionDelTree: This situation with the colors, when did you see it? Was it something I said earlier?
16:25.41DelTreeon some website...
16:26.05devazionDelTree: This mailiinglist? http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/1999/08/msg00096.html
16:26.31DelTreeI said a *website*, not a mailing list...
16:26.44devazionDelTree: ...
16:27.06DelTreeprobably it was discussed on many ml... but I find ml difficult to browse...
16:30.21devazionAgree'd on that one! Anyway... I guess I'll have to check if it works when I receive the iMac. The reason I really care for checking out if it works before testing is though the fact that I won't be able to re-install OS 8 on it if i fail with the Debian install.
16:30.39devazionBut that won't be a really big loss I guess ;)?
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19:29.37SimonRavenimac isn't oldworld.
19:30.04SimonRavenit *is* quite possible to install debian on an oldworld box
19:30.23SimonRaveninstead of guessing why don't you find out?
19:31.02SimonRavenOF < 3 oldworld; OF >= 3 newworld
19:31.18SimonRavenffs
19:31.43SimonRavenscroll*
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21:20.52Corsacis there anybody in there ?
21:21.06Corsaci'd like to install debian on a g3 lombard using only netboot
21:21.12Corsaci can provide a dhcp/tftp server
21:21.20Corsacbut install guide isn't very clear
21:31.26paulproteus|laptI'm in here, but I haven't done netboot on ppc.
21:31.32Corsachmhm
21:31.33Corsacwait
21:31.36Corsacit seems...
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21:42.45pereany brave sole with a big endian machine and a spare block device willing to test  ext2resize version 1.1.19-4.0.pere.1.dsc?  I want to know if it work on big endian machines.
21:43.03perepreferable with a kernel >= 2.6.10 with online ext3 resize support.
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22:43.45bbelt16aghey peeps  where is the  xfree86 config file at?
22:44.19perebbelt16ag: /etc/X11/?
22:44.33bbelt16agok
22:44.42bbelt16ag<PROTECTED>
22:45.21bbelt16aghttp://pastebin.com/613350
22:45.24bbelt16ag<PROTECTED>
22:45.30bbelt16aggoing to go get  config now
22:48.51bbelt16agAND HERE IS THE  CONFIG FILE
22:48.53bbelt16ag<PROTECTED>
22:48.55bbelt16aghttp://pastebin.com/613354
22:49.22bbelt16agif anybody can figure out why my agp  ati  card sucks and wont work  tell me
22:50.47chrisaYou need to give a lot more information
22:50.53chrisaSystem make? Card model?
22:50.56chrisaKernel?
22:51.18chrisaand what does "sucks and wont work" actually mean?
22:58.36bbelt16agX wont start
22:58.58bbelt16agits an applie  blade server
22:59.22bbelt16agLinux trinityapple 2.6.8-powerpc #1 Thu Nov 24 00:17:15 UTC 2005 ppc GNU/Linux
22:59.53bbelt16ag0000:00:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth 2 AGP
22:59.54bbelt16ag0000:00:10.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5703X Gigabit Ethernet (rev 02)
22:59.54bbelt16ag0001:10:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth 2 PCI
22:59.54bbelt16ag0001:10:0d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 21154 PCI-to-PCI Bridge
22:59.54bbelt16ag0001:10:11.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 21154 PCI-to-PCI Bridge
22:59.54bbelt16ag0001:10:15.0 RAID bus controller: Promise Technology, Inc. PDC20271 (FastTrak TX2000) (rev 03)
22:59.56bbelt16ag0001:10:1b.0 RAID bus controller: Promise Technology, Inc. PDC20271 (FastTrak TX2000) (rev 03)
22:59.58bbelt16ag0001:11:07.0 ff00: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo Mac I/O (rev 03)
23:00.00bbelt16ag0001:11:08.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo USB
23:00.02bbelt16ag0001:11:09.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo USB
23:00.04bbelt16ag0001:12:02.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
23:00.06bbelt16ag0002:22:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth 2 Internal PCI
23:00.08bbelt16ag0002:22:0d.0 ff00: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth 2 ATA/100
23:00.10bbelt16ag0002:22:0e.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth 2 FireWire (rev 01)
23:00.12bbelt16ag0002:22:0f.0 ffff: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth 2 GMAC (Sun GEM) (rev ff)
23:00.16bbelt16agthat help chrisa
23:00.20bbelt16agrunning debian here
23:00.25bbelt16agsarge i believe
23:00.34bbelt16agxfree86
23:01.56Corsacwoohoo
23:02.01Corsacit boots
23:02.56bbelt16agduh
23:03.22bbelt16agany help?
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