| 00:19.35 | avar | it means he hates you and wants you to die |
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| 00:57.20 | SimonRaven | bbelt16ag: don't do that please. this is your first and last warning. |
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| 02:35.37 | bbelt16ag | ok |
| 02:35.45 | bbelt16ag | geesh |
| 02:36.07 | paulproteus|lapt | bbelt16ag: Pastebin your X configuration? |
| 02:36.16 | bbelt16ag | ..... |
| 02:36.17 | bbelt16ag | yes |
| 02:36.25 | paulproteus|lapt | Oh, I see. (-: |
| 02:36.38 | bbelt16ag | http://pastebin.com/613354 |
| 02:36.46 | bbelt16ag | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:36.58 | paulproteus|lapt | Remove the videoram, busid lines. |
| 02:36.59 | bbelt16ag | see? |
| 02:37.09 | paulproteus|lapt | Oh, it's just mouse? |
| 02:37.11 | paulproteus|lapt | I see. |
| 02:37.13 | bbelt16ag | no |
| 02:37.55 | paulproteus|lapt | What do you mean? It appears that's all X complains about. |
| 02:38.06 | bbelt16ag | is that in the config? |
| 02:38.16 | paulproteus|lapt | bbelt16ag: yeah, identifier "configured mouse" |
| 02:38.20 | bbelt16ag | ok |
| 02:38.23 | paulproteus|lapt | bbelt16ag: Can you "cat /dev/input/mice" and move the mouse and see what you get? |
| 02:38.58 | bbelt16ag | um |
| 02:39.09 | paulproteus|lapt | Or is there no mouse? |
| 02:39.14 | paulproteus|lapt | (Why are you trying to run X on a blade, anyway?) |
| 02:39.18 | bbelt16ag | its an usb mouse |
| 02:39.27 | paulproteus|lapt | Okay. |
| 02:39.32 | bbelt16ag | well |
| 02:39.37 | bbelt16ag | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:39.44 | paulproteus|lapt | bbelt16ag: Good reason. (-: |
| 02:39.48 | bbelt16ag | i got ssh working on it now so i can start process from this pc |
| 02:40.23 | bbelt16ag | (WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory what does that mean? |
| 02:40.34 | paulproteus|lapt | You have no "advanced power management" support. |
| 02:40.38 | bbelt16ag | ok |
| 02:40.39 | paulproteus|lapt | That's an old PC spec for power management. |
| 02:41.19 | bbelt16ag | this is the final error on the log |
| 02:41.22 | bbelt16ag | (EE) RADEON(0): Cannot read V_BIOS (5) |
| 02:47.07 | bbelt16ag | so ... |
| 02:47.11 | bbelt16ag | what did you want me to do? |
| 02:47.38 | paulproteus|lapt | cat /dev/input/mice |
| 02:47.43 | paulproteus|lapt | And move the mouse. |
| 02:49.46 | paulproteus|lapt | bbelt16ag: What happens when you do that? |
| 02:49.51 | paulproteus|lapt | Do you get binary trash to the screen? |
| 02:49.54 | paulproteus|lapt | Pemission denied? |
| 02:49.58 | paulproteus|lapt | Or "No such device"? |
| 02:50.00 | paulproteus|lapt | Or what? (-: |
| 02:50.19 | bbelt16ag | move the file? |
| 02:50.36 | paulproteus|lapt | No! |
| 02:50.40 | paulproteus|lapt | You have a usb mouse, right? |
| 02:50.46 | paulproteus|lapt | Put it in your hand and move it around. |
| 02:50.57 | paulproteus|lapt | After *running* "cat /dev/input/mice" |
| 02:50.58 | bbelt16ag | i am doing this stuff through ssh |
| 02:51.10 | paulproteus|lapt | bbelt16ag: Okay, fine. |
| 02:51.13 | paulproteus|lapt | Do the cat anyway. |
| 02:51.16 | bbelt16ag | ok |
| 02:51.46 | bbelt16ag | nada hangin |
| 02:52.08 | paulproteus|lapt | Okay, so that much works at least. |
| 02:52.12 | bbelt16ag | ok |
| 02:52.20 | bbelt16ag | ok |
| 02:52.57 | paulproteus|lapt | X -allowMouseOpenFail |
| 02:53.00 | paulproteus|lapt | (according to http://www.xfree86.org/current/XFree86.1.html ) |
| 02:53.02 | paulproteus|lapt | does that work? |
| 02:53.49 | bbelt16ag | nope |
| 02:53.53 | bbelt16ag | aborted same signal |
| 03:03.04 | paulproteus|lapt | in Section "ServerFlags" , add Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" . |
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| 05:57.40 | ireverentReveren | anyone around? |
| 06:00.54 | ireverentReveren | I am getting a default catch error on a new install on an imac, and was wonding if i could get some guidance, as google is not helping much |
| 06:43.44 | ireverentReveren | boting from a cd and running ybin -v -v results in an interesting error... that google still doesnt help with |
| 07:47.11 | pahartik | ireverentReveren: you only get that error when trying to boot already installed Debian GNU/Linux from harddisk, but booting from CD-ROM works fine? |
| 07:47.22 | ireverentReveren | Yeah |
| 07:49.04 | pahartik | ireverentReveren: how about getting to yaboot from CD and booting kernel from harddisk, using filesystem on harddisk as "/"? |
| 07:49.24 | ireverentReveren | ...huh? |
| 07:49.37 | ireverentReveren | how would i do that? |
| 07:52.32 | ireverentReveren | i have a shell open |
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| 07:54.01 | pahartik | ireverentReveren: something like this: "http://penguinppc.org/bootloaders/yaboot/doc/yaboot-howto.shtml/ch9.en.shtml#s9.3" |
| 07:56.46 | ireverentReveren | same error |
| 07:59.37 | pahartik | ireverentReveren: does "yaboot" get loaded from both, harddisk and CD, but loading kernel image from harddisk fails? |
| 07:59.54 | ireverentReveren | Yes |
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| 08:02.50 | pahartik | ireverentReveren: what if you first "gunzip" that kernel and then try to boot? |
| 08:04.10 | ireverentReveren | no idea |
| 08:04.14 | ireverentReveren | i'll try that tomorrow |
| 08:04.22 | ireverentReveren | thanks for your help, but it is reall y late |
| 08:04.25 | ireverentReveren | night |
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| 08:35.25 | Corsac | svenl: SYN |
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| 12:05.32 | Corsac | hmhm, wich package base-config has been replaced by ? |
| 12:07.39 | Makeio | hello, i have a lot of problems when i compiled kernel in a ppc-architecture with openfirmware. Anybody knows any man/tutorial or webpage to manage openfirmware..? |
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| 12:10.16 | Corsac | Makeio: more precisely ? |
| 12:12.09 | Makeio | now there ara no possible because i reinstalled debian. but i want to have a openfirmware manual becausse i will install a new options in kernel |
| 12:12.42 | Corsac | can't help you, but i'd say it's not in openfirwmare but in yaboot |
| 12:15.45 | Makeio | i don't know, i think that yaboot is a simple configuration and crash before yaboot |
| 12:19.38 | pahartik | Makeio: what do you exactly want? to boot different Linux kernels and test specific options with them? |
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| 18:11.37 | YIP | hi... need help with installing debian 3.1 off of a HD on my powermac g3 minitower (beige) |
| 18:11.56 | YIP | anyone got a clue how to do that |
| 18:12.59 | YIP | oh... and my floppydrive is buggered... and cant get a new one... noone seems to sell mac floppydrives anymore... |
| 18:15.11 | YIP | i found an install manual on the debian site... but it cites files, that i cant find anywhere (linux.bin; ramdisk.image.gz) |
| 18:15.35 | YIP | does anyone know where to find it? |
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| 18:16.13 | YIP | another thing... i've got mac os 9 running on the machine |
| 18:16.54 | pahartik | YIP: you could start installer from traditional MacOS with BootX... |
| 18:17.38 | YIP | yeah... but how... cant find the files that the install man tells me to download |
| 18:18.47 | YIP | pahartik: and i dont really know much about linux anymore... last time i really used linux was SUSE 4.1 (very long ago) |
| 18:19.02 | pahartik | YIP: look at "/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/" on local Debian FTP archive mirror |
| 18:19.02 | YIP | like 10 years or so... |
| 18:19.18 | YIP | cool... |
| 18:19.39 | YIP | pahartik: thanks... |
| 18:21.30 | pahartik | YIP: "netboot" folder if you have got TCP/IP network, "cdrom" folder if you have got Debian installer on CD media or DVD media |
| 18:22.23 | pahartik | YIP: "vmlinux" is kernel image, "initrd.gz" is ramdisk image |
| 18:22.27 | YIP | pahartik: i have the cd image, but i cant boot it due to OF 2.0f1 |
| 18:22.34 | YIP | cool... |
| 18:22.48 | YIP | pahartik: will my powermac boot it? |
| 18:22.57 | YIP | with bootx? |
| 18:23.03 | pahartik | YIP: it does not matter, as you use "BootX" within traditional MacOS |
| 18:24.03 | YIP | pahartik: so, will i need to keep os9 forever to boot linux? |
| 18:24.49 | pahartik | YIP: if "quik" works on your system, BootX or traditional MacOS is not needed for booting afterwards |
| 18:27.03 | YIP | pahartik: do you know if it will work on oldworld powermacs? (my beige g3 266) |
| 18:27.04 | pahartik | YIP: when installing Debian GNU/Linux, make sure that you have got traditional MacOS install media, or that it is installed on separate harddisk... otherwise you only have one shot at trying to install |
| 18:28.01 | YIP | pahartik: by separate hd do you mean separate HD or partition? |
| 18:29.13 | pahartik | YIP: on personal experience, "quik" works easily on PowerMacintosh 7500 and PowerMacintosh 7300... but is difficult on PowerMacintosh 5500 |
| 18:29.47 | YIP | i have the "first" g3 (gossamer) 266MHz |
| 18:31.01 | YIP | do you know how i reset the firmware to defaults? i tried "apple-alt-p-r" but it seems not to work 100% |
| 18:31.41 | pahartik | YIP: no idea if it works on your hardware configuration before you try... might need serial port console to set things up |
| 18:32.59 | YIP | and when trying to install osx 10.1.2 from cd it breaks down right before copying files... (configureing installation... or sth like that) |
| 18:35.07 | pahartik | YIP: easy way to try... install traditional MacOS on small partition, install Debian GNU/Linux on rest of disk... |
| 18:35.49 | YIP | pahartik: ??? dont understand what you mean... |
| 18:37.44 | YIP | pahartik: by separate hd do you mean separate HD or partition? |
| 18:38.01 | pahartik | YIP: then one can <Command>-<Option>-P-R back to traditional MacOS to repeat attempt to install with BootX |
| 18:39.11 | pahartik | YIP: separate harddisk would be easier... especially if traditional MacOS install media is missing |
| 18:39.22 | YIP | ok... |
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| 18:53.20 | YIP | pahartik: i dont need to decompress the ramdisk image, do i? |
| 18:56.08 | pahartik | YIP: I do not remember having to do that |
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| 19:11.15 | YIP | pahartik: in the install manual it says, to copy the ramdisk image and the kernel into the kernel folder of bootx... and then place that folder in "the active system folder"... does that mean the os9 system folder in the "root dir" |
| 19:13.07 | pahartik | YIP: it means "System Folder" |
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| 20:14.59 | YIP | pahartik: how should i partition/format the HD on which i will install linux? just one hfs (not plus... this i know) or more partitions. im running os 9 on another disk |
| 20:24.44 | pahartik | YIP: "quik" wants to load kernel from "ext2", so if one wants to have "ext3" "/", "/boot/" needs to be separate filesystem and "quik" needs some manual setup |
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| 20:48.28 | paulproteus|lapt | pahartik: ext3 is readable by ext2 drivers.... |
| 20:55.17 | pahartik | paulproteus|lapt: "quik" does not like it |
| 20:55.50 | paulproteus|lapt | pahartik: Oh, huh. |
| 20:56.14 | pahartik | paulproteus|lapt: "quik" is boot loader, does not use "ext2" driver of Linux kernel |
| 20:57.06 | paulproteus|lapt | Yeah, but I figured that it would still work with ext3. |
| 20:57.19 | paulproteus|lapt | Since e3 was designed to be backwards compatible. |
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