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| 01:06.39 | kaiba | So, I'm installing debina, and during 'installing base system' it throws 'Warning: Failure trying to run: chroot /target mount -t proc proc /proc' |
| 01:06.42 | kaiba | weekly build of the testing image for powerpc |
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| 03:28.19 | ireverentReveren | how do i find out what module is required for networking on a revision a imac? |
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| 03:40.57 | pahartik | ireverentReveren: by "modprobe bmac ; dmesg | tail" |
| 03:41.15 | ireverentReveren | awesome |
| 03:42.24 | ireverentReveren | wait |
| 03:42.33 | ireverentReveren | not working... |
| 03:43.10 | ireverentReveren | complines that no ipv6 routers as present |
| 03:43.38 | pahartik | ireverentReveren: do you have IPv6 uplink? |
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| 03:43.45 | ireverentReveren | nope |
| 03:43.56 | ireverentReveren | so not sure why it is trying ipv6 |
| 03:44.37 | pahartik | ireverentReveren: even if you do, that has got nothing to do with ethernet adapter |
| 03:45.40 | ireverentReveren | any suggestions? |
| 03:46.49 | pahartik | ireverentReveren: depends on what you want? to configure TCP/IP? |
| 03:47.10 | ireverentReveren | Yeah |
| 03:48.58 | pahartik | ireverentReveren: assuming physical ethernet interface got detected by driver module... have you edited "/etc/network/interfaces"? |
| 03:49.18 | ireverentReveren | Yeah |
| 03:50.41 | pahartik | ireverentReveren: use "ifup" on that network interface...? |
| 03:51.02 | ireverentReveren | Yeah |
| 03:51.08 | ireverentReveren | no complaints |
| 03:52.06 | pahartik | ireverentReveren: does "ip addr" and "ip route" output look reasonable? |
| 03:52.38 | ireverentReveren | what package are those in? need to install them |
| 03:54.35 | pahartik | ireverentReveren: "iproute" |
| 03:56.39 | ireverentReveren | still cant find it |
| 03:58.40 | pahartik | ireverentReveren: well, show console log of everything you did, beginning from "modprobe"? |
| 03:58.50 | ireverentReveren | cant... |
| 03:59.00 | ireverentReveren | no way to get anything off that computetr |
| 04:00.41 | pahartik | ireverentReveren: does it have IP address and default route? |
| 04:01.39 | ireverentReveren | it has the static ip i set for it |
| 04:01.46 | ireverentReveren | no idea how to check route |
| 04:02.35 | pahartik | ireverentReveren: "netstat -nr" since you do not have "ip route" |
| 04:03.18 | ireverentReveren | hmm |
| 04:03.51 | ireverentReveren | 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 04:05.06 | pahartik | ireverentReveren: so it does have route to that subnet... pinging hosts on that subnet should work... |
| 04:05.53 | ireverentReveren | ping 192.168.1.4 losses every packet..... |
| 04:06.04 | ireverentReveren | i wonder if the cable may be bad.... |
| 04:08.56 | pahartik | ireverentReveren: that is possible... or 192.168.1.4 is configured to not respond... |
| 04:09.09 | ireverentReveren | it should |
| 04:43.55 | ireverentReveren | hmmm |
| 04:44.02 | ireverentReveren | the lights blink on the switch |
| 04:47.07 | pahartik | ireverentReveren: I can see that over here too |
| 04:48.00 | ireverentReveren | ping 127.0.0.1 |
| 04:48.04 | ireverentReveren | network unreachable |
| 04:50.51 | pahartik | ireverentReveren: have you done strange things to kernel configuration or "/etc/network/interfaces"? |
| 04:51.54 | ireverentReveren | nope |
| 04:52.13 | ireverentReveren | wait |
| 04:54.22 | ireverentReveren | nope |
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| 10:18.27 | allu | hi |
| 10:18.50 | allu | is there any chance of playing .asf and .wmv files not covered by ffmpeg? |
| 10:19.13 | Bor_Ed | both work if not encoded with wmv9 codec |
| 10:19.38 | Bor_Ed | other than ffmpeg, I'm not aware of the codecs |
| 10:19.57 | Corsac | yeah but wmv3 is quite frequent these days :( |
| 10:19.58 | Q-FUNK | there's apparently non-free codecs by Fluendo now that cover those |
| 10:20.07 | allu | well I guess those files sent to me are wmv9 encoded then. I have ffmpeg and the ffmpeg gstreamer plugin installed |
| 10:20.24 | Bor_Ed | Q-FUNK: got url? |
| 10:21.10 | Q-FUNK | there's already one of their non-free codecs for mp3, offering better mp3 support than the one in gstreamer0.10-dirty |
| 10:21.19 | Q-FUNK | ...in debian |
| 10:22.20 | Bor_Ed | I don't use that app... just mplayer |
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| 14:00.41 | HopsNBarley | howdy. anybody doing work on an MPC8349 ADS development board? |
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| 17:22.39 | johill | pahartik: no wonder, since ARCH=ppc vs. ARCH=powerpc |
| 17:23.01 | johill | (now it is powerpc, previously ppc) |
| 17:23.47 | pahartik | johill: oh, that explains some of it then... |
| 17:24.43 | johill | well there may of course be other stuff outside of the arch specific things too :) |
| 17:25.08 | johill | I dunno, I've been running 2.6.15 with arch=powerpc too I think, and I've been running 2.6.16-rcX for a long time |
| 17:25.34 | johill | whee. pushed a lot of changes to my new sound driver |
| 17:35.24 | pahartik | johill: you are working on "snd_powermac"? |
| 17:35.31 | johill | no, snd-aoa |
| 17:35.46 | johill | I decided to ditch the snd-powermac code |
| 17:36.10 | johill | pahartik: come over to #mklinux, just discussing some things there |
| 17:36.54 | johill | if you like and want to know |
| 17:37.11 | Q-FUNK | aoa? |
| 17:37.39 | johill | apple onboard audio :) |
| 17:38.19 | Q-FUNK | johill: and that would be? |
| 17:39.12 | johill | snd-aoa is intended to be a new driver for all the audio stuff apple has on their boards |
| 17:40.06 | johill | what is burgundy? |
| 17:40.12 | johill | what codec? and what machine? |
| 17:40.24 | Q-FUNK | the chip on the G3 iMac CRT |
| 17:40.45 | johill | ok. no idea about that |
| 17:40.55 | johill | dig up the datasheet and some info on how it is connected ;) |
| 17:41.02 | Q-FUNK | one of the very chips still not properly supported |
| 17:42.53 | Q-FUNK | johill: darwin drivers fully document it |
| 17:43.16 | johill | how is it connected? i2s? |
| 17:43.23 | Q-FUNK | nope |
| 17:43.28 | Q-FUNK | it seems to be older than that |
| 17:43.46 | johill | davbus? |
| 17:43.54 | Q-FUNK | could be |
| 17:44.25 | Q-FUNK | all I recall is Ben saying that he could not stuff it in his i2c-based code, because it wasn't supported for that |
| 17:44.46 | johill | Q-FUNK: if you do some research on how it is connected, that would be very useful for my new driver framework |
| 17:44.55 | johill | since it'd be one thing that is totally different from what I have |
| 17:45.14 | johill | I hope it can handle it, but if not it'd be of course better if I knew about that sooner rather than later :) |
| 17:45.30 | Q-FUNK | the current burgundy code in snd-powermac works okay for sound output, but there are some mistakes in the offests for some of the sliders. |
| 17:45.53 | Q-FUNK | e.g. headphone and line in sliders are reverted |
| 17:46.22 | Q-FUNK | erm... headphones and speakers. |
| 17:46.36 | Q-FUNK | and, anyhow, speakers is mistakenly shown as being a mono device. |
| 17:47.22 | Q-FUNK | also, auto-mute and headphone detection code doesn't seem to work. |
| 17:47.26 | johill | Q-FUNK: I'm not willing to research the chip right now, so your telling me that doesn't help :) |
| 17:48.04 | Q-FUNK | I have no idea what goes into a burgundy. all I know is that the equivalent darwin drivers would have all the answers. |
| 17:48.36 | johill | have you ever looked at the darwin drivers for audio? the *suck* |
| 17:48.53 | Q-FUNK | I don't doubt that the code sucks, but the point is that they work. |
| 17:49.39 | Q-FUNK | not directly mergable into alsa because it's C++ and a different API, but the part about accessing the chipset should be of help to code the drivers. |
| 17:49.55 | johill | no |
| 17:50.05 | johill | trust me, that part is the least |
| 17:50.11 | johill | the bigger problem is knowing how apple hooked it all up |
| 17:50.28 | Q-FUNK | the current snd-powermac driver would know |
| 17:50.38 | Q-FUNK | burgundy.c appears to have some comments |
| 17:52.34 | johill | but I don't even understand that code and what they map where ;) |
| 17:54.00 | Q-FUNK | http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Hardware/Developer_Notes/Macintosh_CPUs-G3/PowerMacintosh_G3/PowerMacG3.25.html |
| 17:54.33 | Q-FUNK | http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Hardware/Developer_Notes/Macintosh_CPUs-G3/PowerMacintosh_G3/PowerMacG3.3e.html#15787 |
| 17:55.53 | johill | sorry, but that's useless |
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| 17:56.55 | Q-FUNK | yes, davbus |
| 17:57.03 | Q-FUNK | http://penguinppc.org/historical/dev-trees-html/imac-Rev.D-333.html |
| 17:57.30 | johill | ok then. I have no idea how to program a davbus |
| 17:57.31 | johill | :) |
| 17:57.46 | Q-FUNK | http://penguinppc.org/historical/dev-trees-html/imac-Rev.D-333.html#pci|mac-io|davbus|sound |
| 17:58.54 | pahartik | johill: will your "snd-aoa" have capabilities to reset itself internally after "suspend-to-RAM"? |
| 17:59.06 | johill | pahartik: reset how? |
| 17:59.16 | johill | I have a huge ocmment in the code on how to handle suspend properly |
| 17:59.18 | johill | not implemented yet |
| 18:01.24 | pahartik | johill: audio on my iBook G4 sounds strange after "suspend-to-RAM" unless I "/etc/init.d/alsa force-reload" |
| 18:01.46 | johill | I have a similar thing on my powerbook, though just closing the sound application (rhythmbox usually) fixes it |
| 18:02.02 | johill | problem is that rhythmbox keeps the pcm stream open |
| 18:02.58 | pahartik | johill: and when I do that, I also have to "/etc/init.d/pbbuttonsd start" and "xfce4-panel &> /dev/null &" because they get killed when performing it |
| 18:03.13 | johill | right makes sense |
| 18:03.23 | johill | does xfce4-panel play sound? |
| 18:03.25 | johill | or just mixer? |
| 18:05.26 | johill | well, I'm sure I can make suspend work properly |
| 18:06.25 | pahartik | johill: no, but it keeps some ALSA device open, even if there is no "Mixer applet" running on panel... previous version of panel did not get killed if there was no "Mixer applet" running |
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| 18:06.47 | johill | the question is what it keeps open |
| 18:06.56 | johill | if it keeps open to mix, then I don't understand your problem |
| 18:07.03 | johill | if it keeps open to play, then I have the same problem |
| 18:07.16 | johill | though then you could probably fix it by only killing the panel and not reloading alsa |
| 18:09.40 | pahartik | johill: oh, I will try that next time after iBook G4 sleeps... |
| 18:10.05 | johill | no idea how to fix it though, and I don't think I'll try |
| 18:15.44 | pahartik | johill: "lsof" shows that "xfce-mcs-manager" and "xfce4-panel" keep "/usr/lib/libasound.so.2.0.0" open... |
| 18:15.46 | johill | heh I don't think that helps. no /dev/sound stuff? |
| 18:15.58 | johill | eh, /dev/snd |
| 18:16.12 | johill | my mixer keeps /dev/snd/controlC0 open |
| 18:16.49 | johill | while rhytmbox keeps /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p open |
| 18:18.47 | pahartik | johill: yes, those two processes keep "/dev/snd/controlC0" open three times |
| 18:18.58 | johill | that's ok for suspend on my powerbook |
| 18:19.05 | johill | so I guess the problem is a different one |
| 18:20.27 | pahartik | johill: anyway, reloading module fixes it... |
| 18:20.50 | johill | so there's some initialisating missing on resume... |
| 18:23.13 | pahartik | johill: sounds like band-pass filtered audio, almost like traditional telephone... |
| 18:23.22 | johill | heh |
| 18:23.37 | johill | for me it sounds like every sample is played twice, once overlapping half with the previous one and then for real |
| 18:24.52 | pahartik | johill: audio data alignment problem? |
| 18:25.03 | johill | possible |
| 18:25.15 | johill | ah |
| 18:25.17 | johill | maybe |
| 18:25.29 | johill | |l|r||l|r||l|r||l|r|| etc |
| 18:25.36 | johill | maybe it's playing |r|l||r|l|| instead |
| 18:25.58 | johill | well, I don't care |
| 18:26.00 | johill | won't fix it |
| 18:26.12 | johill | I'll just finish the new driver and hope it won't happen there, and if it does fix it there |
| 18:30.12 | johill | though I sure could use some help especially from people with older hardware ;) *hint hint* |
| 18:30.47 | pahartik | johill: oh, what if iBook G4 audio problem is all about mixer initialization and it happens because mixer devices are kept open? |
| 18:31.06 | johill | don't understand the question |
| 18:31.19 | johill | it probably is |
| 18:31.38 | johill | it probably is not re-initialising the mixer properly the same way it would have when you open it |
| 18:31.39 | johill | though |
| 18:31.49 | johill | you can test that by not unloading the module but killing userspace that keeps it open |
| 18:32.09 | johill | if it works then, the code that should be added to the resume is in the mixer initialisation |
| 18:32.11 | johill | if it doesn't |
| 18:32.20 | johill | then the code that needs to be added to resume is in the driver initialisation |
| 18:32.22 | johill | anyway |
| 18:32.39 | johill | it should just fully reinitialise the codec since it will have had power to it turned off across suspend |
| 18:32.53 | johill | I don't see why it would initialise something based on the mixer open/closed state |
| 18:33.04 | johill | what codec is it anyway? |
| 18:33.08 | johill | tas3004? |
| 18:33.26 | pahartik | johill: how would I find out? |
| 18:34.03 | johill | cd `find /proc/device-tree -name i2s-a*` |
| 18:34.09 | johill | cd sound |
| 18:34.26 | johill | hd layout_id |
| 18:34.31 | johill | eh layout-id |
| 18:34.34 | johill | I can work from that |
| 18:34.42 | johill | but not now, I have to go |
| 18:35.33 | johill | run, actually :) |
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| 22:34.51 | Q-FUNK | it has to be said that mac partitioning for debian has got to be the worst explained ever. |
| 23:41.00 | SimonRaven | Q-FUNK: depends who you ask :P |