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06:26.27*** topic/#debianppc is Welcome to #debianppc, the channel for the Debian GNU/Linux PowerPC port: http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc. FAQs: Debian CDs are not and cannot be bootable on OldWorld PowerMacs. Info on proper partitioning can be found at http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.txt, the yaboot HOWTO can be found at http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/yaboot-howto.html.
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09:58.01*** topic/#debianppc is Welcome to #debianppc, the channel for the Debian GNU/Linux PowerPC port: http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc. FAQs: Debian CDs are not and cannot be bootable on OldWorld PowerMacs. Info on proper partitioning can be found at http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.txt, the yaboot HOWTO can be found at http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/yaboot-howto.html.
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11:48.44zzsimonbis anyone around that could answer a couple of old world mac questions?
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11:51.40blackinghello all..
11:52.09blackingdoes anyone here how build a small debian distro for my usb drive?
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12:17.25Q-FUNKthat already exists
12:17.34Q-FUNKthere is a usb install image
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12:46.04blackingyes but it didn' t boot for me..
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14:14.34damien42bonjour à tous
14:15.15damien42j'aurais besoin d'aide à propos de la config de xserver sur un PM 4400 et Sarge SVP
14:15.41damien42la carte graphique interne fonctionne
14:15.51damien42mais ça paltne avec la Rage Pro 128 PCI...
14:16.19damien42oh sorry
14:16.23damien42its english room
14:16.29damien42so
14:16.34damien42i request some help please
14:16.40damien42with a 4400 powermacintosh
14:16.42damien42with debian sarge
14:17.03damien42there a standard ATI Mach 64
14:17.15damien42wich works perfectly after xserver configuration
14:17.28damien42but my Rage pro 128 have some trouble to start xserver...
14:17.54damien42xfree log says R128(0) : Cannot read V_BIOS (5)
14:18.05damien42do you know where should i search ?
14:18.08damien42thanks
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14:19.05damien42i havn't found some response on google
14:19.27Curaltontry   google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=R128(0)+:+Cannot+read+V_BIOS+(5)+debian+ppc
14:20.15damien42oh thanks, i have found some results with frensh
14:20.19damien42mea culpa
14:25.44Curaltonnp :)
14:34.39damien42its working perfectly with FBdev in device's option
14:34.41damien42thanks a lot
14:34.44damien42good day
14:34.48damien42see you son
14:35.42Curaltonanother happy customer
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16:55.16zzsimonbanyone around that could answer a couple of questions about debian on an old world mac?
16:56.39Corsaccouldn't help, i gues
16:56.46Corsacis there anybody here who uses gphoto2 ?
16:57.25zzsimonbi have trouble spelling linux never mind gphoto! hahaha
16:57.44pahartikzzsimonb: probably, but we still have not seen those questions
16:57.50zzsimonband linux on a ppc platform seems to be imposible
16:58.03SimonRavenriiight
16:58.06zzsimonbhahahaha ok, here goes
16:58.18zzsimonbi have a beige g3, thats old world
16:58.26zzsimonbso i am using bootx
16:58.39SimonRavenboot from scsi, or with bootx from mock os. that simple
16:59.18zzsimonbi have partioned my 9gig scsi internal drive, got mac got linux
16:59.27zzsimonbthe install works great
16:59.57zzsimonbi reboot and bootx to linux, funky coloured penguin in the top left corner
17:00.09zzsimonbafter about 15 seconds
17:00.21zzsimonbhard drive does its thing
17:00.39zzsimonba min later funcky coloured penguin goes away
17:00.48zzsimonbthen screen flashes
17:00.57zzsimonband black screen and nada
17:01.22zzsimonbi have played with this 8 ways to sunday
17:01.37zzsimonband its the same thing no matter what i do
17:02.31zzsimonbi even managed to shell out, mount the hfs volume and copy /boot so i had a fresh copy of vmlinux and the ram drive on the apple side
17:03.07zzsimonbthe searches i have done online are telling me different things
17:03.43SimonRavensounds like zonky video. have you tried setting the video= in append= ?
17:03.50zzsimonbone says copy vmlinux and initrd.img to the mac system folder
17:04.02SimonRavenyes
17:04.17zzsimonbi have tried video= and no go
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17:04.36SimonRavenyou're supposed to. it's in the bootx readme
17:04.46zzsimonbi did
17:04.51SimonRavenhttp://simonraven.nuit.ca/bin/view/Know/NativeBootGee3OFTwoFour # might not be relevant
17:04.55zzsimonbi have it exactly as it says
17:05.36SimonRavenand it's being seen in bootx? did you open the initrd from bootx too? there's a dialogue box you click (AKA ramdisk)
17:05.53zzsimonbyes
17:06.10SimonRavenok
17:06.12zzsimonbbtw nice to meet you simon, i am simon as well
17:06.14zzsimonbhahaha
17:06.56SimonRaven:)
17:07.03zzsimonbok, so a couple of questions
17:07.16SimonRaveni just did an edit there. just cosmetic
17:07.35zzsimonbafter i install i reboot, and run the install again
17:07.40zzsimonbthen shell out
17:07.57zzsimonbi mount the linux and mac drives
17:08.11zzsimonblets call them apple and mnt
17:08.19zzsimonbjust for grins
17:09.00zzsimonbthen i copy /mnt/boot/ to /apple/boot (just cos its easy)
17:09.08zzsimonbthen i reboot to os9
17:09.38zzsimonband i take vmlinux and stick it in system folder/linus kernals
17:10.10zzsimonband i take initrd.img and stick it in system folder
17:10.21zzsimonbam i right so far?
17:10.37SimonRavenyeh
17:10.47zzsimonbthen i bootx
17:11.02zzsimonbi have my kernal set as vmlinux
17:11.18SimonRavenkernel
17:11.20SimonRaven;)
17:11.34zzsimonbbrb phone hang on
17:12.10SimonRavenok. btw, just making sure you did this, did you select the initrd from bootx as well?
17:14.24zzsimonbback
17:14.39zzsimonbyes i did
17:15.13SimonRavenok
17:15.16zzsimonbi suspect that i have a video issue
17:15.32zzsimonbthe penguin always looks funky
17:15.45zzsimonbnot black white and yellow
17:16.06zzsimonband i wonder if it is the video mode that bootx is sending?
17:16.33zzsimonbbtw what part of canada are you in? i am in calgary
17:16.36SimonRavenwhat did you set your video= arg to?
17:16.54SimonRaveni'm from moose lake/bonnyville area, currently in montreal
17:17.00zzsimonbarg.... hang on for that answer
17:17.14zzsimonbi got frustrated and reloaded debian hahahaha
17:17.22zzsimonbit will be a couple of mins
17:17.42SimonRavennp
17:18.24zzsimonbhahaha its rebooting now
17:21.16zzsimonbok the extra args right now are....  root=/dev/sdb6 video=atyfb,vmode:14,cmode:32:mclk:7
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17:22.24SimonRaventry leaving off the vmode cmode mclk stuff. it usually auto-configs properly
17:22.48zzsimonbok, thats easy
17:22.54zzsimonbhahaha hang on
17:24.11zzsimonbuse the ramdisk?
17:24.29zzsimonband what size? i have been using 32000
17:26.01SimonRaventoo big. way too big.
17:26.20zzsimonbok what size?
17:26.31SimonRavenit's no more than 8 MB - 16 MB
17:26.32zzsimonb14000?
17:26.42SimonRavenput it in exact numbers
17:27.00SimonRaven8196 16492 or something
17:27.06zzsimonbok
17:27.16zzsimonb16492 hang on
17:29.48zzsimonbwelp the penguin had a red belly brown feet and a yellow outline, so that was different hahahaha
17:30.02zzsimonbbut same thing happened
17:30.17zzsimonbok a question about ram disks
17:31.52zzsimonbwhich ramdisk image should i copy from the debian install, initrd.img or the other one?
17:32.14zzsimonbbooneville, thats near lloydminster isn't it?
17:32.37zzsimonboops excuse my spelling
17:32.46zzsimonbfingers are not working
17:33.55SimonRavenno, up north, near cold lake
17:34.32zzsimonboh yes, sorry
17:34.49SimonRavenshould be the initrd from the same place you got the vmlinux
17:35.10SimonRavenlloydminster is like down south, SE IIRC
17:35.30SimonRavennear the cypress hills park?
17:35.32zzsimonbyes i remember now
17:35.34SimonRaven"near"
17:36.11SimonRaveni haven't been there in years, but i remember it like it was last year
17:36.15zzsimonbin the 80's i worked for dome petroleum, they has a plant in bonneville
17:37.40SimonRaven*nods*
17:38.01SimonRavenmy dad worked up in fort mcmurray for a while ...
17:38.11zzsimonbso the bootom line here is copy vmlinux and initrd.img and not the other stuff.. names like vmlinux.2.8.ppc.etc
17:38.18SimonRavenhe'd come home all stinky of tar and oil
17:38.37zzsimonbhahaha yup the oil patch does that to you
17:38.44SimonRavenjust make sure you get the right one
17:38.48zzsimonbwhat line of work are you into?
17:38.53SimonRaven@install guide
17:38.55ravenbirdfor woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual ; sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual ; sid: /msg ravenbird iyhtays.
17:39.00SimonRavencovers it ^^^ IIRC
17:39.38SimonRavencomputers, bikes, various crafts and arts
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17:40.22zzsimonbah, i am also in the puter biz, 30 years of it, these days i am teaching, i got fed up with the sharp end
17:40.35SimonRavenoh yeh
17:41.09zzsimonbi make my living designing courses, teaching n writing stinking books
17:41.19zzsimonbit pays like crap
17:41.21zzsimonbhahaha
17:41.25zzsimonbbut its easy
17:41.45SimonRavenoh, heh. well, if you like doing it, i suppose it's ok
17:42.05zzsimonbwell it beats working for a living
17:42.22SimonRavenheheh, i.e., 9-5 BS right?
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17:43.09zzsimonbhahaha something like that
17:43.11SimonRaven"9-5 BS" == "working for a living"
17:43.18SimonRavenhehehe
17:43.43zzsimonbok, well i think i am gonna try this one more time
17:43.51zzsimonbdo a fresh install
17:44.23zzsimonbi know i am close, but i can't seem to get that magic bit working
17:44.26zzsimonbhahaha
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17:44.39zzsimonbthanks for all your help
17:44.47SimonRavenok. well, i'm going out for a bit in a few, so if you need help ask anyone
17:44.49SimonRavenit's strange that it doesn't Just Work
17:44.56zzsimonbi am sure i will be back
17:45.12zzsimonbhahaha you guys will be fed up with me soon
17:45.25zzsimonbthanks again, have a great day
17:45.34SimonRavenoh noz!!!111! :P you too
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20:23.01KnapkinCtrl-Alt-Backspace won't kill X.
20:23.28KnapkinHow do I kill X now?
20:24.35CorsacCtrl Apple Backspace ?
20:25.27KnapkinToo late, rebooted.
20:25.40KnapkinI don't think that worked either when I tried it.
20:25.58KnapkinUh oh...
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