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| 05:19.54 | meta-ridley | anyone running debian on an ibook? |
| 05:20.51 | meta-ridley | is anyone even awake? |
| 05:21.02 | tcsetattr | I'm awake. |
| 05:21.25 | meta-ridley | do you have an ibook? |
| 05:22.26 | tcsetattr | nope |
| 05:25.59 | tcsetattr | it is with glee and great anticipation for the future that I now rm .developer |
| 05:59.01 | pahartik | meta-ridley: yes |
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| 06:15.34 | meta-ridley | pahartik: do you run debian on it? |
| 06:21.33 | pahartik | meta-ridley: yes |
| 06:23.19 | meta-ridley | how do you like it? |
| 06:23.31 | meta-ridley | do you use the airport extreme drivers? |
| 06:24.31 | meta-ridley | i threw in the ubuntu live cd just to try it out and my ibook started getting really hot... not a good experience |
| 06:24.44 | meta-ridley | im curious if this is a problem with linux and ibooks in general |
| 06:27.16 | pahartik | meta-ridley: I got rid of Airport Extreme adapter and use built-in Bluetooth instead... |
| 06:28.59 | meta-ridley | why |
| 06:32.14 | pahartik | meta-ridley: because Bluetooth is supported and already was when I got iBook G4 about 18 moons ago |
| 06:33.41 | meta-ridley | so you get like 1mbps or less? |
| 06:35.22 | meta-ridley | by the way, there is an airport extreme driver now. it's going to be included in kernel 2.6.17 |
| 06:35.23 | pahartik | meta-ridley: at my cave I use Bluetooth PAN access point (running Linux), while on the move I use Bluetooth DUN GPRS device |
| 06:35.29 | meta-ridley | still experimental though |
| 06:37.20 | pahartik | meta-ridley: Bluetooth 1.1 and 1.2 moves up to 723 kilobits per second, Bluetooth 2.0 moves up to three times that |
| 06:37.46 | meta-ridley | ahh |
| 06:38.08 | meta-ridley | i havent followed the technology at all.. i thought it was only suitable for short range |
| 06:38.23 | meta-ridley | and really slow |
| 06:39.31 | meta-ridley | im tempted to try debian ppc |
| 06:39.34 | meta-ridley | or maybe slackintosh |
| 06:40.28 | pahartik | meta-ridley: range is ~10 meters for class 2 Bluetooth device and ~100 meters for class 1 Bluetooth device |
| 06:40.44 | meta-ridley | i just hope they dont cause my system to overheat like ubuntu |
| 06:41.17 | meta-ridley | cool. is it secure? |
| 06:43.04 | pahartik | meta-ridley: "CONFIG_THERM_ADT746X" is Linux kernel configuration option related to iBook G4 fan |
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| 12:30.59 | DelTree | \_o< ~ Coin ~ >o_/ |
| 12:32.10 | Corsac | pan |
| 12:35.27 | DelTree | \_o< ~ Coin ~ >o_/ |
| 12:36.18 | DelTree | what's the current status of the HFS/HFS+/UFS support in linux ? |
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| 13:22.21 | igayoso | hi |
| 13:23.25 | igayoso | could someone help me with airport drivers? |
| 13:23.48 | igayoso | i dont know why the bcm43xx.ko dont generate |
| 13:23.59 | igayoso | and i cant modprobe bcm43xx |
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| 15:16.02 | Bor_Ed | "PC World's Techlog has a short piece talking about the upcoming emergence of 'Windows Vista Capable' PCs." |
| 15:16.16 | Bor_Ed | wrf, I thought even 8088 is still good with visva :o |
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| 15:31.29 | bkn | hi, i'm looking any help on getting MOL to run on my powerbook. Does anyone have is running successfully? |
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| 16:30.34 | elijahb | I'm attempting to install kernel-2.6.16.1 powerpc and am getting "VFS: unable to mount rootfs". When I use an initrd I get "unknown filesystem type devfs". ext2/3 filesystem support compiled in kernel. suggestions? |
| 16:31.08 | elijahb | I'm actually running ubuntu, but #ubuntu wasn't helpful |
| 16:33.47 | pahartik | elijahb: did you configure driver for block device and bus it is connected to, as module? |
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| 16:35.19 | pahartik | elijahb: if so, use "--initrd" on "make-kpkg" |
| 16:36.21 | elijahb | ok, I'll try that. I'm not sure what block device and bus needs to be compiled. Also, from a post I read, it looks like mkinitrd requries devfs? and devfs has been removed from 2.6.16 |
| 16:37.48 | elijahb | I have ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL and Builtin PowerMac IDE Support compiled in and I'm not sure what block devices should be compiled in |
| 16:37.56 | pahartik | elijahb: I use iBook G4 with kernel build from "linux-source-2.6.16", configured without "initrd" |
| 16:38.03 | elijahb | I should be able to boot without a initrd on power, right? |
| 16:38.07 | elijahb | right, ok |
| 16:38.19 | elijahb | can I see your kernel config? |
| 16:39.44 | pahartik | elijahb: yes, look at "http://pahartik.iki.fi/~pahartik/config-2.6.16-kiara-pahartik" |
| 16:39.48 | elijahb | ok. thanks |
| 16:49.40 | elijahb | was this what you were talking about? I have CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=m and CONFIG_BLK_DEV_GENERIC=m whereas you have =y |
| 16:50.34 | pahartik | elijahb: that could well make big difference |
| 16:52.47 | igayoso | could someone help me with airport drivers? |
| 16:52.51 | igayoso | i dont know why the bcm43xx.ko dont generate |
| 16:52.56 | igayoso | and i cant modprobe bcm43xx |
| 16:58.24 | elijahb | igayoso: are you trying to do airport or airport extreme? |
| 16:58.32 | igayoso | extreme |
| 16:59.11 | elijahb | well, as soon as I get a bootable 2.6.16.1 kernel going, I'm trying to do the same. |
| 16:59.32 | elijahb | sounds like you've gotten further than I. What guide are you following? |
| 16:59.46 | igayoso | are you triying too? |
| 16:59.55 | elijahb | yeah, as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Device/AirportExtreme |
| 16:59.56 | igayoso | http://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/11044 |
| 17:00.02 | igayoso | ins spanish for Ubuntu |
| 17:00.05 | elijahb | gotcha |
| 17:01.35 | igayoso | with this kernel i dont have sound |
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| 17:42.29 | elijahb | pahartik: that kernel config worked great. thanks |
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| 17:56.57 | pahartik | elijahb: you are welcome |
| 18:03.18 | igayoso | elijahb, work the airport? |
| 18:05.05 | meta-ridley | what packages do i need to ensure everything on my ibook works? |
| 18:22.33 | pahartik | meta-ridley: "bluetooth", "pbbuttonsd", "laptop-mode-tools"... |
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| 18:39.14 | elijahb | I'm trying to install the bcm43xx module. I've compiled everything (softmac etc) but I get 'Unknown symbol in module' for ieee80211softmac and 'Invalid module format' for bcm43xx. any ideas? |
| 18:39.22 | elijahb | oops |
| 18:39.32 | elijahb | sorry. I'm trying to get airport extreme working |
| 18:39.43 | elijahb | with the bcm43xx drivers |
| 18:41.23 | meta-ridley | it's not availible via apt? |
| 19:02.38 | simonrvn | meta-ridley: from sid yes. it's probably in etch now |
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| 20:41.20 | _rene_ | unfortunately it's against 2.6.15 |
| 20:41.45 | _rene_ | I didn't suceed building against 2.6.16, because of the same error elijahb had... |
| 20:41.55 | _rene_ | and both will be in 2.6.17.... |
| 20:42.21 | _rene_ | so you can just apt-get install it on etch, not on sid |
| 20:42.26 | _rene_ | but sid is sid, so... :-P |
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| 21:09.58 | Fluten | can a 350mhz g3 boot off of a large drive, such as 120GB? |
| 21:10.26 | Fluten | I could never get debian to boot off of anything large with it |
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| 23:39.22 | simonrvn | why not? it's not like it's too big |