| 00:02.29 | tailok | Booting Debian from external firewire on Powerpc Mac seems to be an issue... |
| 00:02.42 | tailok | is there an feasible workaround? |
| 00:12.24 | tailok | the problem is that the yaboot partition is not on the beginning of the disk, there seems to be a little apple partition before it... i dont know if i could erase so that eventually my other hfs+ gets harmed? |
| 00:13.00 | simonrvn | you can move it around with mac-fdisk |
| 00:13.11 | simonrvn | just be very careful |
| 00:13.28 | tailok | :D |
| 01:07.20 | meta-ridley | how the heck do i use the ondemand cpufreq governer with debian testing |
| 01:07.41 | meta-ridley | when i echo "ondemand" to /proc/blah/scaling_governor it gives me a write error |
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| 03:03.54 | pahartik | meta-ridley: it does not work, it is not supported by kernel... neither is "conservative" governor (just AFAIK as it has never been available for enabling, even if it shows up on "/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors") |
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| 18:14.11 | gnu2it2 | does etch run ok on ppc? |
| 18:15.21 | simonrvn | why wouldn't it? :) |
| 18:16.27 | gnu2it2 | can i dist-upgrade from sarge by changing my sources.list? |
| 18:17.49 | gnu2it2 | trying to make use of old 7248 43p sinse AIX 51 support dropped and that was the last that supported PReP proc |
| 18:19.00 | Bor_Ed | you can dist-upgrade like that... as long as you have working kernel, you can use even sid |
| 18:19.32 | simonrvn | gnu2it2: yes |
| 18:19.39 | simonrvn | ravenbird: sarge->etch |
| 18:19.40 | ravenbird | simonrvn: are you using Windows? |
| 18:19.47 | simonrvn | no, thank goodness |
| 18:19.52 | simonrvn | hmm |
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| 18:20.44 | gnu2it2 | how solid is sid for unstable? |
| 18:21.15 | Bor_Ed | I've had server running sid for years with no unsolvable probs... just a home server though |
| 18:21.52 | simonrvn | ravenbird: sarge->etch |
| 18:21.52 | ravenbird | (Sarge too old for you already? Edit your sources.list ('editor /etc/apt/sources.list'), change all non-local mentions of 'sarge' or 'stable' to 'etch', and replace the security.debian.org line by a testing security line (ask me about testing security). Save the file, then 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade'. Then subscribe to d-d-a (/msg ravenbird d-d-a) |
| 18:22.22 | simonrvn | gnu2it2: it can break at any moment. and if you can't fix any problems that come up, don't use it |
| 18:22.55 | Bor_Ed | it can break up and will too somehow, but usually those aren't that bad issues |
| 18:23.08 | simonrvn | usually. unless it's PAM or glibc |
| 18:23.23 | Bor_Ed | well... :) |
| 18:23.32 | simonrvn | (ican fix them, but they're not for newbies) |
| 18:24.27 | simonrvn | @*ping* |
| 18:24.28 | ravenbird | update your RSS readers, simonrvn just posted another one - http://simonraven.nuit.ca/bin/view/Blog/ |
| 18:25.04 | gnu2it2 | i think i will try etch,, not ballsy enough to jump to sid :) |
| 18:25.57 | simonrvn | yeh. it's more stable, but new stuff gets in. etch is more up to date than gentoo ... |
| 18:26.52 | Bor_Ed | gendoofs? that still hasn't drowned to emerge -e world? :o |
| 18:27.14 | simonrvn | they're losing devs i hear |
| 18:27.30 | Bor_Ed | how I ain't suprised the project is drying up :o |
| 18:27.43 | simonrvn | hmm |
| 18:27.45 | simonrvn | @gentoo |
| 18:27.46 | ravenbird | i heard gentoo is a high-performance ports-based Linux metadistribution for x86, PowerPC, Sparc and Sparc64 systems. Its got a ports like system. It rules all other inferior distributions. Kinda of akin to BSD according to chouimat, or something you don't want to administer more than 2 of, or a nice file browser |
| 18:28.01 | simonrvn | hmm |
| 18:31.24 | simonrvn | @tell Bor_Ed about gentoo |
| 18:31.46 | Bor_Ed | gee thanks simonrvn |
| 18:31.49 | simonrvn | better that way ;) |
| 18:32.12 | simonrvn | rice is for eating, not sutffing down a cpu's pipeline |
| 18:32.35 | Bor_Ed | I don't even have enough guts to rice even after clocking this box ~33% |
| 18:32.58 | simonrvn | if you want ports, install some bsd =) |
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| 18:33.07 | Bor_Ed | I prefer not to |
| 18:34.36 | Bor_Ed | even linux gives me gray hair every now and then |
| 18:35.51 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 18:46.44 | simonrvn | eh. probably the libglib bug |
| 18:46.53 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: I've noticed the same |
| 18:46.56 | simonrvn | it's making irssi puke too |
| 18:47.06 | Bor_Ed | irssi works here :o |
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| 18:50.52 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: oh, I have had "irssi" process running since "2006-03-28" on portable workstation and since 2004 on server (uptime over 550 days), so I have not hit that yet |
| 18:52.32 | Bor_Ed | I have some days of irssi uptime on the server, same updates as in desktop |
| 18:52.57 | Bor_Ed | xfce4-panel started to crash some weeks back |
| 18:52.59 | pahartik | simonrvn: is it problem with new "libc6" or "libc6.1" or "libglib2.0-0"? |
| 18:53.24 | simonrvn | the last |
| 18:53.25 | Bor_Ed | libc6.1? |
| 18:54.02 | Bor_Ed | upgrade/fix in sight for the libglib prob? |
| 18:54.17 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: "http://packages.debian.org/libc6.1" |
| 18:54.30 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: yea... checked on apt |
| 18:54.56 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: did you find information? |
| 18:55.55 | Bor_Ed | nope |
| 18:56.04 | Bor_Ed | it's on incoming? |
| 18:57.58 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: well, 32 bit architectures have "libc6", 64 bit architectures have "libc6.1", just as document behind that URL reveals |
| 18:58.17 | Bor_Ed | ahh rite |
| 18:58.41 | Bor_Ed | don't have browser up and having dist-upgrade up currently so I was too lazy to launch one |
| 18:59.27 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: I usually have at least one instance of Lynx running... |
| 18:59.52 | Bor_Ed | I used to use links but it doesn't work either currently |
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| 19:01.05 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: because of (supposedly) "libglib2.0-0 2.10.1-2" problem? |
| 19:01.39 | Bor_Ed | nope, it has something fishy in build... |
| 19:01.54 | Bor_Ed | doesn't want to use xv |
| 19:02.53 | Bor_Ed | prolly need to compile with x enabled to see if it's just dropped from the package |
| 19:05.46 | gnu2it2 | where can i find then newest boot and root floppies for PReP ? |
| 19:06.08 | Bor_Ed | ftp.yourcountrycode.debian.org |
| 19:38.09 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: xfce4-panel whine changed a bit |
| 19:38.15 | Bor_Ed | *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x100a6030 *** |
| 19:38.16 | Bor_Ed | Aborted |
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| 20:13.08 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: that happens sometimes too |
| 20:14.18 | Bor_Ed | well, started when the longer yadayada came too |
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