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| 06:22.51 | zasz | hello. |
| 06:22.57 | zasz | are g3 powerbooks considered old world? |
| 06:25.45 | SimonRaven | @mac models |
| 06:25.47 | ravenbird | http://simonraven.nuit.ca/bin/view/Know/KbTopic8 or http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/models.html |
| 06:26.36 | zasz | Trying to figure out if I can get the CD to boot on this thing. Thanks. |
| 06:29.33 | SimonRaven | ^^ should help :) |
| 06:29.46 | zasz | oh darn, this is a wallstreet. |
| 06:29.50 | zasz | won't boot linux cds! |
| 06:30.12 | SimonRaven | :/ |
| 06:30.28 | SimonRaven | got a floppy drive you can insert? |
| 06:30.46 | SimonRaven | else you can do the bootx way |
| 06:31.26 | zasz | PowerBook G3 Series (233 MHz, 250 MHz, 292 MHz) |
| 06:31.26 | zasz | 1998-05 |
| 06:31.26 | zasz | |
| 06:31.26 | zasz | M4753 |
| 06:31.34 | zasz | that is what i have, is that wallstreet? |
| 06:31.45 | zasz | I do not have a floppy drive for it |
| 06:35.28 | SimonRaven | i think so, but i'm not sure |
| 06:35.47 | SimonRaven | www.apple-history.com can help too |
| 06:35.49 | zasz | Once i held cmd+option+o+f and it seemed to try to boot from CD, but all I saw was a floppy with a question mark in it |
| 06:36.06 | zasz | Do you think i burned the media wrong or something? I can read the contents of the CD in mac OS |
| 06:36.07 | SimonRaven | @mac models is also http://www.apple-history.com/ |
| 06:36.09 | ravenbird | SimonRaven: okay |
| 06:36.21 | SimonRaven | means it couldn't find a device to boot from |
| 06:36.40 | zasz | oh interesting |
| 06:36.47 | zasz | this thing must not support booting from CD then. |
| 06:37.01 | zasz | I guess I should investigate bootx ? |
| 06:37.04 | SimonRaven | it should. just not linux ones |
| 06:37.40 | SimonRaven | yet. a free miboot clone is still a ways away, but last i heard is it was being worked on |
| 06:38.57 | SimonRaven | there's a certain debate whether or not some reverse engineering is needed. i think so, but depending on what kind of state the open code is without the non-free stuff, with some rewriting |
| 06:39.37 | zasz | it says on the bootx page i should be using yaboot if I have a black g3 |
| 06:40.47 | SimonRaven | well if you do manage to see OF, note the OF version. that'll be much more definitive. but see the apple-history site first |
| 06:41.03 | zasz | ok, thanks |
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| 06:47.30 | zasz | command-option-o-f won't let me into the OF |
| 06:47.37 | zasz | according to these docs it should |
| 06:52.33 | SimonRaven | only works on certain models. chances are your box isn't OF 3 and up |
| 06:54.13 | zasz | what do you suggest I do then, with no OF |
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| 06:56.41 | zasz | bootx? |
| 07:13.36 | pahartik | zasz: "<Command>-<Option>-O-F" should get you to OpenFirmware prompt but maybe you cannot see it... |
| 07:14.29 | zasz | hmm |
| 07:15.26 | zasz | why might that be |
| 07:16.12 | pahartik | zasz: and see this: "http://www.fi.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/models.html#pbg3s" |
| 07:16.21 | zasz | ok |
| 07:17.33 | zasz | Yep I see it's very picky about it. Maybe I need to do it right after the chime |
| 07:18.08 | zasz | nothign |
| 07:19.37 | pahartik | zasz: once you get there, it should show up on frame buffer (many OldWorld PowerMacintoshes open OpenFirmware console on serial port by default) |
| 07:22.34 | zasz | This thing doesn't even have a serial port. |
| 07:24.30 | pahartik | zasz: it does have one serial port |
| 07:27.25 | zasz | i See a VGA connector on the back |
| 07:28.03 | zasz | there is a ps2 looking connecter on one side that I don't recognize |
| 07:28.10 | zasz | I don't have any plugs that would fit into it though |
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| 07:29.13 | pahartik | zasz: it is RS-422 serial port, with physical 8 pin mini-DIN appearance |
| 07:33.16 | zasz | well it's not on the back or sides heh (this is a G3 series laptop) |
| 07:33.17 | tcsetattr | look up "din8" on images.google.com to confirm the appearance |
| 07:33.30 | zasz | http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=24604 |
| 07:34.09 | zasz | oh, it does have one of those |
| 07:34.25 | zasz | wow I have nothing that could connect to this thing |
| 07:35.43 | zasz | i figured I could just plug a serial cable into it and use a telnet client from my other computer |
| 07:35.49 | pahartik | zasz: serial port is only useful if you need one... for traditional modem, terminal, printer or other device... |
| 07:36.06 | tcsetattr | you can... if you got a Mac serial cable :) |
| 07:36.37 | tcsetattr | (also, allegedly compatible with a Sun serial cable) |
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| 07:37.49 | zasz | what would i plug that mac serial cable into (to see the output) |
| 07:38.06 | zasz | in order to execute commands in OF |
| 07:38.59 | pahartik | zasz: telnet client knows nothing about serial port, but of course one can run PPP (for example) on serial port and use it that way... |
| 07:39.30 | zasz | ah, and what would be the normal way to view stuff coming out of a serial port (you can see I'm out of my element here) |
| 07:39.43 | zasz | I just wanted to get debian running on this |
| 07:39.46 | tcsetattr | with a dumb terminal emulator, probably. |
| 07:40.26 | pahartik | zasz: but serial port is not required to interact with OpenFirmware on Wallstreet PowerBook |
| 07:41.06 | zasz | pahartik: I cannot see it like you said, so I am not sure how to interact with it |
| 07:42.25 | zasz | whew, I've been up for about 19 hours. I've got to hit the hay. |
| 07:42.40 | zasz | Dang, I just wish it wasn't so hard to boot of the c |
| 07:42.41 | zasz | cd |
| 07:42.56 | zasz | good night, thanks for your help. |
| 07:43.06 | pahartik | zasz: your problem is more likely "how to get OpenFirmware to interactive mode for first time" instead of "how to communicate with OpenFirmware after once it is in interactive mode"... |
| 07:43.19 | zasz | yes |
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| 07:43.52 | zasz | all the key combinations I've tried don't work. I must be doing something wrong. |
| 07:44.07 | pahartik | zasz: I suspect wrong timing |
| 07:44.10 | zasz | command+option+O+F doesn't get anything |
| 07:44.17 | zasz | pahartik, when do you suggest I do it |
| 07:44.31 | zasz | do I press it once or hold it (that is what I've been doing) |
| 07:46.09 | pahartik | zasz: I have never touched that model, but document at "http://www.fi.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/models.html#pbg3s" states "...Very picky about timing of holding down keys to enter Open Firmware..." |
| 07:46.29 | zasz | yes, now to find out when exactly to do it :) |
| 07:46.36 | pahartik | zasz: no suggestions about proper action though... you just have to try again |
| 07:46.43 | zasz | my goal is to get into OF so I can bootstrap linux from the HD |
| 07:46.50 | zasz | ok |
| 07:46.56 | pahartik | zasz: or find document describing it |
| 07:46.59 | zasz | thanks, I must be going now. I'm falling asleep. |
| 07:47.07 | zasz | I'll try it some more tomorrow |
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| 14:15.42 | risc- | hi, anyone here running Debian on a Powerbook? |
| 14:15.58 | x03 | risc-: me |
| 14:17.16 | risc- | a G4? Are you able to use the Airport extreme card? |
| 14:19.18 | x03 | risc-: no |
| 14:19.29 | x03 | risc-: i not use airport |
| 14:19.31 | risc- | to what question? |
| 14:19.55 | x03 | risc-: i think airport can be used via MOL |
| 14:20.04 | x03 | (in gentoo) |
| 14:20.24 | x03 | i instaled debian in 2 day ago, im not test yet |
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| 16:00.26 | TBBle | x03: I've got the Airport Extreme going on the G4 powerbook 15" |
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| 16:55.38 | bkn | hi anyone here get MOL working? i'm trying to get it to work on my powebrook. |
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| 17:00.09 | x03 | TBBle: can you tell me how i can use it too? |
| 17:46.13 | TBBle | x03: There's bcm43xx drivers in sid. I've got some packages for the alternative version, but they're not for the feint of heart. |
| 17:56.43 | zasz | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.00 | zasz | I have one of these, but it refuses to go into OF |
| 17:57.30 | zasz | I tried comand+alt+o+f before the chime, after, no luck |
| 17:57.40 | zasz | I wonder what's going on here! |
| 18:00.50 | Bor_Ed | press the key combo just after the boing |
| 18:01.09 | zasz | hold it or just press it once? |
| 18:01.18 | zasz | I've tried holding it right after the chime with no luck |
| 18:01.23 | Bor_Ed | hold, screen will go white and then you can release |
| 18:04.01 | zasz | holy crap, it worked! |
| 18:04.06 | Bor_Ed | :) |
| 18:04.20 | zasz | man, this thing is mega timing specific. Thanks for the pointer. |
| 18:04.34 | zasz | now to go back to prepping my hard drive. |
| 18:04.38 | Bor_Ed | it tends to take couple of tries :) |
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| 18:14.03 | zasz | now if only I could get yaboot to boot |
| 18:14.19 | Bor_Ed | you can't, it'll boot with quik afaik |
| 18:14.45 | zasz | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ch05s01.html.en#boot-newworld <-- i wonder why it says use yaboot |
| 18:15.19 | Bor_Ed | hmm, could be wrong too but I have g3 with 2.0.1 OF and this is oldworld |
| 18:15.40 | zasz | boot cd:,\install\yaboot <-- I'll try this |
| 18:15.45 | zasz | how do you know it's oldworld? |
| 18:16.01 | Bor_Ed | pmac-generation : OldWorld |
| 18:16.05 | Bor_Ed | on cpuinfo |
| 18:16.11 | zasz | oh, I will check that. |
| 18:16.24 | Bor_Ed | linux sites |
| 18:16.41 | Bor_Ed | gah, good googling on ... |
| 18:17.21 | Bor_Ed | hmm, there are 3 versions of the g3 powerbook |
| 18:17.21 | zasz | yah, boot cd:,\install\yaboot doesn't work. Is quik on the debian cd |
| 18:17.25 | Bor_Ed | http://simonraven.nuit.ca/bin/view/Know/KbTopic8 |
| 18:17.44 | Bor_Ed | oldworld doesn't boot linux from cd at all |
| 18:17.54 | zasz | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:17.55 | zasz | |
| 18:17.55 | zasz | See footnote |
| 18:17.58 | zasz | I think I have one of those |
| 18:18.30 | Bor_Ed | so couple of floppies then |
| 18:18.34 | zasz | Is CPU info built into mac OS 8.5? |
| 18:18.42 | zasz | Bor_Ed: dont' have a floppy drive |
| 18:19.01 | Bor_Ed | hrm... then it's messing up with bootx |
| 18:20.38 | SimonRaven | zasz: because the anchor says boot-newworld |
| 18:20.57 | zasz | the OF on this is 2.0.1. Is CPUinfo built into mac os? I'd like to check. |
| 18:21.30 | Bor_Ed | that's on linux only afaik |
| 18:21.49 | Bor_Ed | SimonRaven: is that wallstreet thingy old or new world? |
| 18:21.55 | SimonRaven | no, best thing you can do is do "about this computer..." or apple system profiler |
| 18:21.59 | SimonRaven | old |
| 18:22.06 | zasz | oh ok mine is old world then |
| 18:22.09 | SimonRaven | of 2.0.1 |
| 18:22.13 | Bor_Ed | guessed that... and no floppy drive makes the install interesting |
| 18:22.16 | SimonRaven | new is 3 and up |
| 18:22.24 | Bor_Ed | b&w g3 is newworld with 2.0.1 :) |
| 18:22.39 | Bor_Ed | though it's a bastard child |
| 18:22.52 | SimonRaven | yeh |
| 18:23.09 | zasz | Bor_Ed: i copied vmlinux, initrd.gz, yaboot, and yaboot.conf to the root drive. I tried booting those from OF but it just goes back to mac os |
| 18:23.33 | zasz | I've tried boot hd:0,yaboot |
| 18:23.36 | Bor_Ed | zasz: you need to use bootx mac os app to boot it |
| 18:23.42 | zasz | oh |
| 18:23.47 | Bor_Ed | yaboot won't cut it |
| 18:23.50 | zasz | oh boy |
| 18:24.00 | zasz | Ok, I'll see about getting boot x on this thing |
| 18:24.10 | zasz | (it isn't even getting an IP address from my linux DHCP) |
| 18:24.36 | Bor_Ed | if/when you get the thingy to boot directly from OF with quik, you can then remove the mac os partition and use it for something usable, like swap |
| 18:24.54 | zasz | what's the difference between bootx and quik |
| 18:25.14 | Bor_Ed | bootx is mac os graphical app, quik is just an OF bootloader |
| 18:25.53 | zasz | how do I know if I should boot strap the linux installer with bootx or quik? |
| 18:25.58 | Q-FUNK | btw, jprdim was saying yesterday that GRUB2 has apparentyl become usable on PPC. |
| 18:26.05 | Q-FUNK | jordim, even |
| 18:26.41 | Bor_Ed | zasz: you can try the quik after the install... if it works, good, if not, you can boot back to mac os from OF |
| 18:26.50 | Bor_Ed | and use bootx to boot linux from there... |
| 18:26.57 | zasz | oh I see |
| 18:27.27 | zasz | tricky stuff |
| 18:28.13 | zasz | oh good, static IP works on this mac |
| 18:28.19 | zasz | good to know the NIC still works |
| 18:29.20 | Bor_Ed | the nic probably will be bmac in linux... doesn't get recognized by discover so you need to select it |
| 18:30.41 | Bor_Ed | Q-FUNK: got any info on grub2 coming to experimental/unstable anytime soon? |
| 18:30.54 | zasz | I will try bootx 1.2.2 |
| 18:31.52 | Bor_Ed | http://penguinppc.org/bootloaders/quik/ some sort of help on setting it up |
| 18:33.22 | Q-FUNK | no idea, actually |
| 18:33.40 | Bor_Ed | I'll be checking on th eincoming then... thanks for the tip though |
| 18:34.27 | zasz | thanks Bor_Ed |
| 18:34.35 | zasz | im working on getting bootx going. |
| 18:34.43 | zasz | This is exciting |
| 18:35.17 | Bor_Ed | hehe |
| 18:36.02 | Bor_Ed | I'm still using bootx here, too lazy to fix quik to work on this hardware... though if grub2 works easier, I'll just wait it to pop to pool and try out |
| 18:36.48 | zasz | Bor_Ed: doesn't that mean you also have to have mac OS on it |
| 18:37.01 | zasz | (I mention it because of the limited hard drive space) |
| 18:37.24 | Bor_Ed | yup, I have 400M os 9.1 partition on the 4.3G drive |
| 18:38.11 | Bor_Ed | whoops, 1.2G drive |
| 18:38.31 | Bor_Ed | I have the 4.3G as /usr, /home and swap |
| 18:42.19 | zasz | I'm having trouble finding linux.bin and ramdisk.image.gz |
| 18:42.26 | zasz | are they on the ftp somewhere? |
| 18:42.54 | Bor_Ed | yup, a sec or 5 |
| 18:43.46 | Bor_Ed | ftp://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/hd-media/ |
| 18:43.58 | zasz | thanks! |
| 18:44.02 | Bor_Ed | vmlinux and initrd from there |
| 18:44.25 | Bor_Ed | ofcourse, use closest mirror |
| 18:45.01 | zasz | the debian manual says use linux.bin and ramdisk.image.gz |
| 18:45.16 | Bor_Ed | and if that doesn't work, use the 2.4 kernel, I've had issues with the 2.6 install kernel on this box |
| 18:45.31 | Bor_Ed | debian manual is a bit outdated on that front then... |
| 18:45.54 | zasz | ok, vmlinux and initrd is all i need to copy into the linux kernels folder then? |
| 18:46.01 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 18:46.29 | Bor_Ed | then clickety click on bootx and select the ramdisk and kernel |
| 18:47.33 | Bor_Ed | hmm, or you might want to apply the patch to the OF beforehand |
| 18:47.35 | zasz | the boot x folder is on my desktop right now, I need to copy linux kernels into system right |
| 18:47.55 | Bor_Ed | move the bootx thingy to System Folder too |
| 18:47.56 | zasz | that other stuff must have to get moved as well, like that extension file |
| 18:48.00 | zasz | ok |
| 18:57.50 | zasz | I put the extension into system\extensions, bootx into \system\control panel, and linux kernels into system |
| 18:57.54 | zasz | no bootx at startup though |
| 18:58.02 | zasz | lets see if it works from the control panel |
| 18:58.16 | zasz | it does |
| 18:58.51 | zasz | kernel panic! haha |
| 18:59.03 | Bor_Ed | the extensions thingy ain't required, it'll work from the system folder too |
| 18:59.08 | zasz | incorrect boot option |
| 18:59.09 | Bor_Ed | ok, get the 2.4 kernel |
| 18:59.14 | Bor_Ed | hmm? |
| 18:59.27 | zasz | cannot open root device "<NULL>" |
| 18:59.38 | zasz | please append a correct "root=" boot option |
| 18:59.54 | Bor_Ed | ahh, you didn't set the ramdisk image on the settings tab thingy? |
| 19:00.13 | zasz | I forgot to clickety click it :s |
| 19:00.18 | zasz | how to I force reboot this thing |
| 19:00.29 | Bor_Ed | alt+apple+power |
| 19:00.42 | Bor_Ed | or ctrl+apple+power, can't recall |
| 19:01.02 | zasz | ctrl+apple+power, thx |
| 19:01.08 | Bor_Ed | no problemo |
| 19:01.14 | pahartik | zasz: directory separator on MacOS is ":", directory separator on Unix is "/" |
| 19:01.27 | zasz | man I only have one HFS partition on this thing |
| 19:01.39 | zasz | hey bootx is in startup now! yay |
| 19:01.46 | zasz | whoops didn't click anything, it went away |
| 19:02.02 | Bor_Ed | it has 10 or 15 sec delay on default boot |
| 19:02.30 | zasz | pahartik: ok, thanks |
| 19:04.11 | zasz | ok I selected initrd.gz as my ramdisk. should I check no video driver? when it booted last time the screen was split into 4 |
| 19:04.25 | Bor_Ed | don't touch to any other setting |
| 19:04.30 | zasz | ok |
| 19:04.53 | zasz | ok, it is booting |
| 19:05.04 | zasz | the installer is there, but the picture looks very strange |
| 19:05.07 | Bor_Ed | when you get to boot without panics, you can then start to fiddle it to usable stage |
| 19:05.14 | zasz | ok |
| 19:05.19 | zasz | it is booted now <:) |
| 19:05.31 | zasz | now I just need to get the video looking right. I'll try disabling the video driver |
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| 19:06.00 | Bor_Ed | reboot then and set boot options to video=atyfb:800x600-60 |
| 19:06.20 | zasz | will do |
| 19:06.30 | Bor_Ed | maybe even @15 at the end |
| 19:06.37 | zasz | don't check "no video driver" then? |
| 19:06.44 | Bor_Ed | nope |
| 19:07.57 | zasz | is debian going to install on this existing partition? |
| 19:08.05 | Bor_Ed | nope |
| 19:08.08 | zasz | there is no free space on this disk |
| 19:08.14 | zasz | (unformated space I mean) |
| 19:08.31 | Bor_Ed | apply the OF patch from diskutils before you partition the disk for linux |
| 19:08.45 | zasz | ok |
| 19:09.06 | Bor_Ed | I'll give ya a link for the image |
| 19:09.36 | Bor_Ed | http://simonraven.nuit.ca/src/macos/disktools8.img should open in mac os |
| 19:09.54 | zasz | ok will do |
| 19:10.18 | zasz | Is this going to kill my existing mac OS partition though, I don't understand how I'm going to get linux on this thing without whiping it |
| 19:11.02 | Bor_Ed | that image has an update to drivers partition on you HD and an OF update patch, won't break up a thing |
| 19:11.11 | Bor_Ed | SimonRaven: wasn't that the image? |
| 19:11.19 | zasz | thank you |
| 19:11.31 | zasz | does debian share the same partition as mac OS then |
| 19:11.37 | Bor_Ed | nope |
| 19:11.54 | Bor_Ed | when you start the debian install, you'll need to wipe out the mac os partition |
| 19:12.14 | Bor_Ed | there's no partition resizer I know of |
| 19:12.14 | zasz | so basically I have one shot, if I screw up I need to re install mac OS |
| 19:12.24 | Bor_Ed | pretty much so |
| 19:12.32 | zasz | heheeh |
| 19:12.52 | zasz | better apply that patch then :) |
| 19:13.00 | Bor_Ed | though if it goes to that, install mac os to 200-400M partition and leave rest for the linux |
| 19:13.24 | zasz | I gotta find the install cd, it should be in our server room at work somewhere |
| 19:13.54 | Bor_Ed | any 8.x - 9.x will do on that computer |
| 19:13.57 | zasz | there is only like 700 megs free on this thing anyway, a format would be good for it |
| 19:14.06 | Bor_Ed | indeed |
| 19:14.16 | zasz | only has a 2gig HD |
| 19:15.03 | Bor_Ed | 2G is way enough for slim mac os and full debian with kde/gnome with desktop only or a lighter desktop with all the goodies |
| 19:15.31 | zasz | cool |
| 19:16.04 | Bor_Ed | I prefer xfce myself but it's just a personal opinion |
| 19:16.28 | zasz | kde or gnome is overkill for this thing |
| 19:16.35 | zasz | i want something simple like fluxbox |
| 19:16.44 | Bor_Ed | not really if you have 128+ M ram |
| 19:16.46 | zasz | I've not really played with the lighter desktops before so it should be fun |
| 19:16.49 | zasz | oh no |
| 19:16.56 | zasz | ok something lighter then fluxbox then |
| 19:17.19 | Bor_Ed | hmm, kde/gnome takes 128+ M... flux runs on 16... as does xfce |
| 19:17.39 | zasz | oh, i misunderstood you |
| 19:17.50 | zasz | yea I only have 96mb on this, so gnome/kde is overkill |
| 19:18.06 | zasz | disktools8.img just opens in my browser. |
| 19:18.22 | zasz | i am supposed to boot it? |
| 19:18.24 | zasz | with bootx |
| 19:18.28 | zasz | obviously |
| 19:18.39 | Bor_Ed | nope |
| 19:18.45 | zasz | :/ |
| 19:19.09 | Bor_Ed | it can be dd'd with mac os tools or in any linux box |
| 19:20.01 | Bor_Ed | even from windoofs with rawwrite |
| 19:21.58 | zasz | I take it the mac tools required are not there by default |
| 19:22.25 | zasz | I see drive setup |
| 19:22.32 | Bor_Ed | I really don't use mac os to other than boot linux here |
| 19:22.51 | Bor_Ed | can't really help on that side |
| 19:22.52 | zasz | I don't use mac os at all hah! |
| 19:23.07 | Bor_Ed | you lucky... |
| 19:23.58 | zasz | bleh lets format this sucker and see what happens |
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| 19:24.13 | Bor_Ed | yay! |
| 19:24.51 | zasz | patches are for the weak of heart |
| 19:25.24 | Bor_Ed | this ain't the same gear though |
| 19:25.27 | zasz | heheeh |
| 19:25.29 | zasz | ah |
| 19:25.55 | zasz | well if I need bootx to boot linux, and bootx runs in mac OS, and linux whipes the mac os partition.. how will linux boot again? lol |
| 19:26.01 | Bor_Ed | just beige g3 (also known as major pita on getting anything else than mac os to run) |
| 19:26.23 | zasz | i take it you don't need bootx if you sucessfully install linux |
| 19:26.25 | zasz | I HOPE |
| 19:26.41 | Bor_Ed | debian install enables quik and your lappie should work with it |
| 19:27.06 | zasz | it's just sitting at scanning /dev/discs/disc0/disc |
| 19:27.53 | zasz | maybe I'll make coffee. Milk expired 3 days ago |
| 19:28.25 | Bor_Ed | I'll need to split soon... work in 6 hours |
| 19:29.19 | zasz | what do you do |
| 19:30.37 | Bor_Ed | I make frequency converters to industry |
| 19:32.34 | zasz | sounds neat, although I do not use them |
| 19:32.39 | zasz | or really know what they do :) |
| 19:32.42 | Bor_Ed | you do... daily... |
| 19:33.21 | zasz | maybe, since I don't know what they do :) |
| 19:33.23 | Bor_Ed | escalators, elevators, lifts, AC's and so on use frequency converters to control the speed of the motors |
| 19:34.29 | zasz | ah, i see |
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| 19:35.16 | zasz | I wonder why the debian installer seems to just hang at "Scanning /dev/discs/disc0/disc (in Cleanup at Startup/)..." |
| 19:35.24 | zasz | I suppose I'll just wait. |
| 19:36.14 | Bor_Ed | try with 2.4 kernel |
| 19:36.30 | Bor_Ed | it probably works for your gear |
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| 19:37.13 | zasz | ok |
| 19:37.16 | Bor_Ed | I'm off, need some sleep grmbl |
| 19:37.34 | zasz | alright, thank you for your assistance! |
| 19:37.38 | zasz | sleep well |
| 19:38.02 | TeLLuS | Beige G3 with OF 2.01 and quik would not boot from IDE trying SCSI.. |
| 19:38.30 | zasz | i have a powerbook G3 |
| 19:38.34 | zasz | 2.0.1 OF |
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| 20:09.57 | fulldisclosure | Hi. |
| 20:27.49 | zasz | hi |
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| 21:19.28 | fulldisclosure | hi |
| 21:19.40 | fulldisclosure | i have no sound in debian sid with 2.6.15 |
| 21:19.43 | fulldisclosure | i have no sound in debian sid with 2.6.16 |
| 21:22.33 | Q-FUNK | is the alsa module loaded? |
| 21:31.00 | fulldisclosure | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:37.33 | zasz | so, I just got debian installed on this g3 powerbook. Now the bootup screen is just black. |
| 21:43.16 | zasz | did the installer not configure quik properly or something |
| 21:44.06 | zasz | shitft+fn+ctrl+power shuts it off, but when I turn it on I just see the floppy with the question mark |
| 21:49.46 | zasz | hmm I don't think I should have used quik |
| 21:49.55 | zasz | damn, I need mac OS 8.5 media now |
| 21:50.05 | zasz | or a g3 wallstreet restore disk |
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| 22:27.57 | SimonRaven | with a nick like that, you'd think s/he'd fully disclose useful info ... |
| 22:37.07 | Q-FUNK | heh |
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| 23:29.54 | TeLLuS | quik installer got a problem with nonexisting /proc/device-tree Should it be there? |
| 23:31.31 | SimonRaven | is /rpoc mounted? |
| 23:31.33 | SimonRaven | proc* |
| 23:32.02 | TeLLuS | Yepp |
| 23:33.16 | SimonRaven | how about device-tree, there? |
| 23:35.03 | TeLLuS | Yes, that was my question, does anyone have it? I don't. If anyone else got it I have to use another kernel or load another module.. |
| 23:35.49 | SimonRaven | it should be there. are you using the beta installer (etch)? |
| 23:36.08 | TeLLuS | yes.. |
| 23:36.32 | TeLLuS | 060416 |
| 23:37.28 | SimonRaven | ah. ask in #debian-boot |
| 23:37.42 | SimonRaven | someone didn't configure that kernel properly |
| 23:42.47 | TeLLuS | Yes, I will first try write OF boot-device and boot-command myself instead.. |
| 23:49.24 | TeLLuS | Will try another kernel another day.. |