| 00:08.35 | justinm | Bor_Ed |
| 00:09.01 | justinm | the iso works. I've got a shiny 400MB partition and I'm installing debian right now! |
| 00:09.15 | justinm | let me know if you want it. it's about 390 mb |
| 00:09.22 | justinm | (pm's are blocked) |
| 00:26.07 | zasz | This is exciting, soon my wallstreet will be debianized |
| 00:34.44 | zasz | i don't know why this is so exciting, I guess it's my first mac debian install :) |
| 00:38.43 | zasz | damn, it can't see my nic haha |
| 00:38.46 | zasz | ahh well |
| 00:38.58 | zasz | must have been something I did, it detected it before just fine. |
| 00:39.25 | zasz | i think it's the 2.6 kernel, let me try 24 |
| 00:43.50 | zasz | yes, that found my nic |
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| 02:37.44 | zasz | doh mouseemu only works under 2.6 :s |
| 02:37.47 | zasz | time to try an upgrade! |
| 02:53.29 | zasz | aww the upgrade complains because I'm not using quik |
| 02:53.37 | zasz | I'm using bootx, but of course apt doesn't know this |
| 02:53.46 | zasz | how can I get 2.6.8-3 on this sucker |
| 02:55.43 | zasz | screw it, I'll set use initrd to yes and see if ti breaks |
| 03:00.01 | zasz | bleh i'll re install debian and use the damn 2.6 kernel |
| 03:00.06 | zasz | i need mouseemu |
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| 04:09.50 | zasz | VFS: Cannot open root device "hda7" or unknown-block(0,0) <-- I get this with the 2.6 kernel but not 2.4... why is that |
| 04:17.18 | pahartik | zasz: driver module is not loaded? |
| 04:20.39 | zasz | not sure... I'm doing things just how I do them for the 2.4 kernel |
| 04:21.42 | zasz | and of course I need the 2.6 kernel for mouse emu heh |
| 05:11.37 | zasz | so I installed 2.6, it whined about not having a bootloader installed... I said continue anyway... so it installed. Now when I'm booting it always goes to 2.4 |
| 05:11.42 | zasz | how can I get it to boot 2.6 |
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| 05:15.10 | zasz | hmm i recreated the symlink and pointed it to the new kernel |
| 05:19.38 | zasz | how do I get bootx to boot my new 2.6 kernel? it keeps just going to 2.4 even though I installed 2.6 |
| 05:23.32 | pahartik | zasz: are you using "BootX" or "quik"? |
| 05:26.42 | pahartik | zasz: did you edit "/etc/quik.conf" or "/boot/etc/quik.conf"? |
| 05:27.36 | pahartik | zasz: did you read "man quik.conf"? |
| 05:27.52 | zasz | bootx |
| 05:27.57 | zasz | thanks for answering |
| 05:30.12 | zasz | does bootx use quik at all |
| 05:30.15 | pahartik | zasz: mount HFS+ or HFS filesystem and "cp -a" "kernel image" and "ramdisk image" from "/boot/" to proper location for "BootX" to load them from |
| 05:31.22 | zasz | k |
| 05:31.40 | pahartik | zasz: "BootX" runs from traditional MacOS, "quik" runs from OpenFirmware... they do not depend on each other at all |
| 05:31.47 | zasz | ok |
| 05:32.26 | zasz | What you're suggesting makes sense. BootX is using the kernel that I initially copied over (2.4), so now I must copy over the new one |
| 05:34.38 | pahartik | zasz: any "kernel image" and "ramdisk image" that one wants to boot with "BootX" needs to be on HFS+ or HFS filesystem |
| 05:36.15 | zasz | ok |
| 05:38.01 | zasz | arg mount doesn't recognize hfs or HFS... what am I supposed to mount it as |
| 05:39.14 | zasz | the man page says it supports hfs |
| 05:50.43 | zasz | i guess the stock kernel doesn't support hfs :) |
| 05:55.16 | zasz | hmount does it |
| 06:01.10 | zasz | hls is hard to use |
| 06:01.22 | zasz | I'm not sure how to go to the parent directory |
| 06:03.42 | zasz | hcd :: does it |
| 06:06.51 | zasz | quotes |
| 06:06.52 | zasz | got it |
| 06:07.01 | zasz | I should stop talking to myself shouldn't I |
| 06:07.11 | zasz | anyway I copied the kernel, let's see what the heck happens haha |
| 06:07.16 | zasz | I bet it will blow up |
| 06:08.24 | zasz | yep kernel panic, same error as before |
| 06:08.34 | zasz | there must be a missing driver or something in this 2.6 stock kernel |
| 06:08.39 | zasz | this is going to drive me nuts |
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| 07:06.19 | zasz | figured it out, I wasn't using the 2.6 initrd in bootx |
| 07:37.39 | zasz | Bor_Ed |
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| 13:39.17 | johill | anyone have a new xorg installed? my keyboard (apple usb keyboard) is all messed up |
| 13:39.27 | johill | got it configured using evdev and normal pc104 kbd |
| 13:42.53 | Corsac | i have |
| 13:43.04 | Corsac | and i had to move my personal keymap to another location |
| 13:43.15 | Corsac | in xorg 6.9 it was in /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/ |
| 13:43.41 | Corsac | now in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ |
| 13:44.05 | Corsac | (i mean my powerbook french keyboard) |
| 13:44.18 | johill | I never used a personal keymap with it |
| 13:44.30 | johill | but now when I press the apple key I get a comma, how useless |
| 13:46.36 | johill | I'll try to configure the other input stuff later, have to go now |
| 13:48.21 | Corsac | my keymap isn't like the other french macintosh ones :/ |
| 13:48.27 | Corsac | <> and @# are inversed |
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| 15:37.45 | zasz | so |
| 15:37.53 | zasz | I'm happy to say I've offically joined the DebianPPC fold |
| 15:38.26 | zasz | I'm usin bootx, but linux itself is running like a beat (for a g3 200mhz with 96mb ram) |
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| 16:40.51 | Bor_Ed | zasz: just put the file somewhere I can wget it or so? |
| 16:43.19 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: "wget" can act as HTTP client or FTP client |
| 16:43.38 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: yea, I ain't that picky :) |
| 17:00.34 | zasz | Bor_Ed: it's not a legal download |
| 17:00.46 | Bor_Ed | and? :) |
| 17:00.49 | zasz | haha |
| 17:00.57 | zasz | i dunno if I will get banned for posting it |
| 17:00.58 | zasz | :( |
| 17:01.10 | zasz | are you an op ? |
| 17:01.13 | Bor_Ed | put it to /msg query then |
| 17:01.14 | Bor_Ed | naa |
| 17:01.26 | zasz | k I'll put up an ftp |
| 17:01.28 | zasz | hold onz |
| 17:04.13 | zasz | ok, the retail iso for mac os 9 is here: |
| 17:04.22 | zasz | ftp://cerberus.n0de.ws |
| 17:04.25 | zasz | username: macos |
| 17:04.28 | zasz | password: macos |
| 17:04.37 | zasz | I don't condone piracy, but I needed it to boot linux |
| 17:04.42 | zasz | BUY IT IF YOU ACTUALLY USE IT |
| 17:05.00 | Bor_Ed | I need to fix the install which was here originally and is messed up now so... |
| 17:05.34 | zasz | plus macintosh doesn't even sell it anymore... they should just open it like 7.0 |
| 17:05.40 | zasz | or at least open 8.5 |
| 17:05.43 | zasz | or 8 |
| 17:05.48 | Bor_Ed | 8.1 would be just fine |
| 17:06.07 | zasz | how's the speed |
| 17:06.16 | zasz | my cable can upload atlike 130KB/s |
| 17:06.33 | Bor_Ed | looks like the whole chan is downloading it now... can't get even the file listing :) |
| 17:06.39 | zasz | don't use pasv then |
| 17:06.43 | zasz | :| |
| 17:07.02 | zasz | you are the only one connected |
| 17:07.24 | Bor_Ed | then something is keeping the buggr not listing |
| 17:08.01 | Bor_Ed | ahh |
| 17:08.40 | zasz | it was your pasv wasn't it |
| 17:08.41 | Bor_Ed | got it going |
| 17:08.45 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 17:14.07 | zasz | kool |
| 17:14.12 | zasz | well get it while you can people |
| 17:14.43 | zasz | it was easy to find actually, just took 4 days to download heh |
| 17:15.24 | Bor_Ed | haven't found any image that has worked on this box so far... lets see if this does |
| 17:15.52 | zasz | it's bootable and everything :) I reformatted my wallstreet with it |
| 17:16.13 | zasz | I would have had to ebay the sucker otherwise |
| 17:16.14 | Bor_Ed | hmm, I hope it works on this one too, most don't either boot or refuses to install |
| 17:16.24 | zasz | what model do you have |
| 17:16.32 | Bor_Ed | beige g3 :) |
| 17:17.14 | zasz | pahartik: :s |
| 17:17.25 | zasz | oh Bor_Ed, it should work fine |
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| 17:19.05 | zasz | pahartik, don't suppose you could send me ISOs for those? |
| 17:19.21 | zasz | system 8 would be nice (smaller boot partition) since I can't seem to get quik going. |
| 17:19.38 | zasz | I won't tell anyone. |
| 17:20.09 | Bor_Ed | I'd guess he has finnish version of those... |
| 17:20.12 | zasz | spare a lil bandwidth govna? |
| 17:20.16 | zasz | oh no, finnish! |
| 17:20.38 | zasz | if I can't read it it will be of less use to me haha |
| 17:21.39 | Bor_Ed | sometimes I have hard time reading it too |
| 17:22.29 | zasz | Bor_Ed: is he ignoring us or just afk |
| 17:22.59 | Bor_Ed | maybe both |
| 17:23.04 | Bor_Ed | no idea |
| 17:24.48 | zasz | haha |
| 17:24.50 | zasz | ahh well |
| 17:25.06 | zasz | didn't the fins do better in hockey then the canadians |
| 17:25.20 | zasz | in Torino |
| 17:25.28 | Bor_Ed | don't follow that |
| 17:27.23 | zasz | oh, ok |
| 17:27.44 | zasz | am I the only one who loves how debian runs on so many arches!? |
| 17:28.07 | Bor_Ed | I have ppc and been trying to get to run on arm... still working on it though |
| 17:28.16 | Bor_Ed | used to have hp-pa too |
| 17:32.54 | zasz | the major reason I like it is because you can put an upto date and useful OS on old hardware that wouldn't be useful otherwise |
| 17:33.05 | zasz | i guess I'm just stating the obvious |
| 17:33.56 | Bor_Ed | and on most arches that can be done without the original outdated OS too, though oldworld and nubus apples as well as epoc on arm aren't that easy |
| 17:35.54 | zasz | yea, i think with enough dedication I could do it with quik |
| 17:36.00 | zasz | I'm just too lazy to do it really. |
| 17:36.51 | Bor_Ed | yea, it'd work here probably if I reformat the / to ext2 |
| 17:36.55 | Bor_Ed | just been lazy too |
| 17:39.59 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: "quik" is happy with "ext3" "/" and "ext2" "/boot/" |
| 17:40.35 | zasz | pahartik: are your mac os versions english or finnish |
| 17:40.44 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: tell it to this install then... well, could be the ide bus too for booting, might have to test with scsi at some point too |
| 17:42.06 | zasz | quik is happy with ext3? the installer tells me the oposite |
| 17:42.28 | Bor_Ed | it works with clean ext3 |
| 17:42.47 | pahartik | zasz: finnish versions, and I do not have permission from Apple to redistribute copies of MacOS |
| 17:42.49 | zasz | my wallstreet goes completely black right after the chime even if I install quik on ext2. |
| 17:43.41 | Bor_Ed | could be just some quik conf option... possibly video |
| 17:44.21 | zasz | yep probably. but how can I edit that file when mac OS has been obliterated |
| 17:44.38 | zasz | and I have no floppy drive |
| 17:44.41 | Bor_Ed | aww right, you still don't have the floppy |
| 17:44.43 | zasz | and the cd doesn't boot |
| 17:44.45 | zasz | heh |
| 17:45.06 | zasz | if the cd booted I'd be golden... just throw up a shell |
| 17:45.31 | pahartik | zasz: install of "quik" does not destroy bootability of traditional MacOS (AFAIK) |
| 17:45.34 | Bor_Ed | oldworld won't boot linux cd :/ |
| 17:45.44 | zasz | probably not worth all the time it would take just to save 300mb. |
| 17:46.02 | zasz | pahartik: it destroyed it on my wallstreet, I had to re install mac OS |
| 17:46.07 | Bor_Ed | yea... and when the OF goes bananas, it's easier to fix within mac os |
| 17:47.20 | pahartik | zasz: "zap PRAM" to boot MacOS again... or use "bye" on interactive OpenFirmware console |
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| 17:48.16 | zasz | i did zap the pram, I just get a floppy drive with a question mark. This is understandable because during my linux install I deleted the mac os partition to give linux all the room it needed |
| 17:48.30 | zasz | none the less, bootx is adequate |
| 17:50.10 | pahartik | zasz: and I think it is up to OpenFirmware to initialize console... if it is black, settings are wrong or OpenFirmware does not know how to do it on that hardware... |
| 17:50.58 | zasz | interesting. Perhaps I need to update OF |
| 17:51.05 | Bor_Ed | no can do |
| 17:51.14 | Bor_Ed | though you can patch it with systemdisk |
| 17:51.20 | demon | yeah, that's just the way oldworld works |
| 17:51.33 | zasz | i think im on of 2.0.1 |
| 17:51.42 | Bor_Ed | the same thingy |
| 17:51.43 | demon | sounds about right |
| 17:51.52 | zasz | is that updateable |
| 17:51.55 | demon | nope |
| 17:52.08 | pahartik | zasz: you are correct, traditional MacOS is not bootable if it is removed from media it was installed on... |
| 17:52.52 | zasz | of course |
| 17:53.21 | zasz | I could get quik to work if I bought a floppy for this thing- aint gonna happen though :p |
| 17:53.34 | zasz | as long as linux can run on it I'm happy |
| 17:55.53 | zasz | pahartik, do you think it's a problem with the quik config or the wallstreets OF |
| 17:55.58 | zasz | I highly suspect it's OF |
| 17:56.16 | zasz | because the default quik config must know how to display text on a console ... |
| 17:56.33 | zasz | or else svenl would be up to his neck in emails :p |
| 17:57.02 | demon | it uses openfirmware's text i/o stuff |
| 17:57.17 | pahartik | zasz: OpenFirmware should initialize console |
| 17:57.27 | demon | though it's likely that your openfirmware isn't set up to output to the local console |
| 17:57.32 | Bor_Ed | probably would need the output-device changed from screen to the ATY device |
| 17:57.34 | demon | that's common with the oldworld systems |
| 17:58.03 | demon | Bor_Ed: isn't 'screen' just an alias for the integrated graphics device though? |
| 17:58.29 | Bor_Ed | demon: in most occasions... though at least pmac 4400 requires the correct devicee |
| 17:58.39 | demon | mmm... fun |
| 17:58.50 | Bor_Ed | OF works but booting doesn't |
| 17:59.12 | demon | weird |
| 17:59.39 | Bor_Ed | it was a weird box from pretty much every front... kinda like this beige g3 is |
| 17:59.43 | demon | heh... oldworld was really rather ghetto :/ |
| 17:59.55 | Bor_Ed | was?? is damnit! |
| 18:04.24 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: you could go to store and get "iBook G4", as they are still available |
| 18:05.15 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: not with my salary, nope... |
| 18:06.58 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: I only had to pay my "iBook G4" loan for one year |
| 18:07.51 | Bor_Ed | I'd pay it for several... and most expensive computer I've had so far has been this g3... was 55 euros with 21" tube |
| 18:09.40 | Bor_Ed | could possibly get a macmini from couple of overtime weekend paychecks but dunno, it'd be better choice to drop the dough to ODW in that case |
| 18:12.21 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: as I have enjoyed becoming increasingly mobile, next thing I am looking forward to have is "Nokia 770"... |
| 18:13.04 | Bor_Ed | just drop ~350 to the table and that's it |
| 18:14.36 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: yes... it would be easy to decide right away if I had job |
| 18:15.16 | Bor_Ed | not easy decision even after doing some overtime last weekend |
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| 18:45.54 | zasz | do you guys like living in finland? |
| 18:46.32 | Bor_Ed | it's not as bad as it sounds |
| 18:46.46 | zasz | I thought it was nice there |
| 18:47.25 | Bor_Ed | well it's ok |
| 18:52.11 | pahartik | zasz: I like my life as finnish rodent |
| 18:52.36 | zasz | lol |
| 18:53.20 | zasz | not to mention the beautiful fjords |
| 18:53.33 | Bor_Ed | that'd be norway... |
| 18:54.15 | zasz | sorry man |
| 18:54.37 | Bor_Ed | no problemo, it's just 1 country left from there |
| 18:54.41 | zasz | you can see how well the canadian education system has taught me about the world. |
| 18:55.01 | zasz | (still better then the american system though) |
| 18:55.01 | Bor_Ed | scandinavia ain't that easy |
| 18:59.24 | Q-FUNK | Bor_Ed: 2 countries left |
| 19:01.06 | Q-FUNK | zasz: think of finland as northern ontario or western quebec: a bit hilly, no real montains, lots of lakes and trees everywhere. |
| 19:02.22 | Bor_Ed | Q-FUNK: norway shares border line with finland and I practically live already in sweden if you meant that one |
| 19:03.18 | Q-FUNK | well, true |
| 19:03.36 | Q-FUNK | although technically, finnmark is lappi with a lot of savo mixed in |
| 19:03.50 | Bor_Ed | mmmkay |
| 19:04.47 | Q-FUNK | think meijän kieli från thornsdahl, only even older and weirder |
| 19:05.22 | Bor_Ed | try närpes some day |
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| 19:32.15 | zasz | yes? |
| 19:53.08 | Bor_Ed | zasz: works, cheers man |
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| 19:57.06 | Patrick` | old world macs just can't boot off CD full stop? |
| 19:57.40 | Bor_Ed | it boots from mac OS cds, linux and other unices are no go though |
| 19:58.59 | Patrick` | Blast. |
| 19:59.19 | Patrick` | but any linux boot floppy should be able to boot any linux CD? |
| 19:59.25 | Patrick` | (or other unices) |
| 19:59.29 | Bor_Ed | in theory, yea |
| 20:00.01 | Patrick` | I've got this cracking 4400 debian box and one of my friends picked up some other old world macs, wants a different distro |
| 20:00.35 | Patrick` | I'm wondering if install CDs will generally be made in such a way that once they're booted, they don't care what world the mac is? |
| 20:00.45 | Bor_Ed | that should be able to boot at least netbsd from floppies among with debian... and ubuntu probably would install from debian floppies too |
| 20:00.59 | Patrick` | yeah, ubuntu is one candidate |
| 20:01.18 | Patrick` | they may have thier own floppes |
| 20:01.24 | Bor_Ed | worth trying to bootstrap that from debian boot frloppies |
| 20:01.36 | Patrick` | this is the problem when you're dealing with an architecture that has no non-obsolete examples |
| 20:01.36 | Bor_Ed | or native if available |
| 20:02.39 | Patrick` | ok, we could split hairs and point out the Gc accelerator cards but you know what I mean |
| 20:02.45 | Patrick` | *G4 |
| 20:03.56 | Bor_Ed | I still have the stock g3, just clocked a bit |
| 20:04.42 | Patrick` | I don't suppose you're a guru of the 4400? |
| 20:04.51 | Patrick` | the ram situation is interesting |
| 20:04.51 | Bor_Ed | I've had couple of those |
| 20:05.07 | Bor_Ed | it uses 5V edo sticks iirc |
| 20:05.18 | Patrick` | the 4400/160 is supposed to take 32,32,32 and the 4400/200 is supposed to take 32,64,64 |
| 20:05.34 | Bor_Ed | I've only messed with 200's |
| 20:05.42 | Patrick` | but, they both have (roughly) the same mobo to the extent where people have claimed to be able to overclock it with a soldering iron |
| 20:05.57 | Patrick` | I've bought more ram, waiting for it to arrive before I discover it's the wrong kind |
| 20:06.08 | Bor_Ed | right |
| 20:06.51 | Patrick` | the only other difference is that the 160 has 3 pci slots and the 200 has apparently 2 plus one other |
| 20:06.59 | Patrick` | but those are on a riser that I'd assume can be trivially swapped |
| 20:07.23 | Bor_Ed | yea, the 200 had the extra slot... with nic in my box |
| 20:07.49 | Patrick` | aah, it's some sort of special nic slot? |
| 20:08.05 | Bor_Ed | something like that |
| 20:08.20 | pahartik | Patrick`: probably CommSlot II |
| 20:08.20 | Patrick` | huh, and here I was worrying about the nic |
| 20:08.25 | Patrick` | yeah, sounds right |
| 20:08.30 | Patrick` | I was just reading about it |
| 20:08.39 | Bor_Ed | Expansion Slots: 2 12" PCI, 1 7" PCI, comm II |
| 20:08.46 | Patrick` | anyway, I wouldn't mind if the ram didn't work |
| 20:08.49 | Patrick` | it's a cracking machine |
| 20:08.57 | Patrick` | run my home network for 3 years now |
| 20:09.10 | Patrick` | just put a laptop hard drive in it and ghetto'd the PSU to use a silent fan |
| 20:12.46 | Patrick` | it'd be nice to have a sort of long-lived ebay where you listed your obsolete spare parts and then people could buy them a year later or whatever |
| 20:12.53 | Patrick` | it'd help me find cool things to put in the L2 slot |
| 20:13.11 | Bor_Ed | try sonnettech.com |
| 20:13.53 | Patrick` | I'm avoiding proper stores |
| 20:13.59 | Patrick` | in practice they charge more than it cost retail |
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| 20:15.54 | Patrick` | I'll let you know about the RAM, at least it'll be on record |
| 20:16.16 | Bor_Ed | haven't had 4400's since '02 or so |
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| 20:16.44 | Patrick` | yer loss, cracking little machine |
| 20:16.52 | Patrick` | not what I'd call overpowered but it gets the job done |
| 20:17.01 | Patrick` | if the job is taking 7 minutes to boot |
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| 21:50.47 | zasz | Bor_Ed |
| 21:50.52 | zasz | did it work |
| 21:51.02 | zasz | i must know, now :L |
| 21:51.27 | zasz | <Bor_Ed> zasz: works, cheers man |
| 21:51.29 | zasz | yessssss |
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| 21:59.02 | mikearthur | if I install Debian on an Old World PowerMac, can I wipe OS9? |
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| 22:13.18 | zasz | whoa |
| 22:15.59 | Patrick` | it's cool, I got it |
| 22:16.02 | Patrick` | an old friend |
| 22:16.08 | Patrick` | who can sometimes be ... impatient |
| 22:16.23 | Patrick` | not the right attitude for old-world powermacs |
| 22:16.26 | Patrick` | mmm, 100 MHz |
| 22:16.33 | zasz | lol you're telling me |
| 22:16.46 | zasz | I got an old world powermac going without a floppy drive last weekend |
| 22:16.53 | Patrick` | sheesh |
| 22:16.54 | zasz | my first powerpc debian setup |
| 22:16.56 | Patrick` | you're insane |
| 22:16.57 | zasz | talk about patience. |
| 22:17.14 | Patrick` | it was one of those "if it reboots in the next half hour, I'm totally STUFFED" moments? |
| 22:17.27 | Patrick` | well, not really a moment |
| 22:17.35 | zasz | botched mac OS, coudln't boot. found os 9, downloaded it, reformatted, installed, installed debian multiple times until i got it working |
| 22:17.43 | Patrick` | it's not so bad now with 2.6 but when I go in with the rescue floppies and it turns off DMA, it can take literally 3 or 4 minutes to boot |
| 22:17.44 | zasz | tweaked video setup, tweaked x, etc etc |
| 22:17.55 | zasz | needless to say I went to sleep at 2am and got 4.5 hours of sleep |
| 22:17.59 | Patrick` | heh |
| 22:18.01 | Patrick` | best thing for it |
| 22:18.14 | zasz | yah I have 2.6 as well |
| 22:18.21 | Patrick` | when I got my 160MHz MONSTER working, I basically skipped a whole sleep and worked until 1am the next day |
| 22:18.28 | zasz | haha |
| 22:18.34 | zasz | it's oddly fun though |
| 22:18.37 | Patrick` | yeah |
| 22:18.42 | Patrick` | I kept changing my mind |
| 22:18.53 | zasz | because although it was time consuming, I was progressing forward all the time |
| 22:18.54 | Patrick` | it has scsi, so I didn't know what hard drive type to install on |
| 22:19.07 | zasz | when I reached an impass I'd go eat or something then I'd try a few other things |
| 22:19.10 | Patrick` | I went with the one that didn't sound like a washing machine taxi-ing on the runway |
| 22:19.12 | zasz | ooooh |
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| 23:07.03 | jsn | I'm now on 2.6.15-1 and have dmasound_pmac loaded. Sound is working. but alsamixer... |
| 23:07.10 | jsn | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 23:11.23 | tcsetattr | uh, I may a bit off here... but isn't dmasound_pmac an OSS module? |
| 23:12.21 | tcsetattr | ALSA modules start with "snd" usually |
| 23:18.30 | jsn | oh, well, i guess it was just the connection |
| 23:18.36 | jsn | now sound is fine, crazy me |
| 23:18.52 | jsn | Was listening to Damon Runyon Theatre |
| 23:19.08 | jsn | http://65.30.147.93:8000 |
| 23:19.14 | jsn | old time radio stuff, but anyway |
| 23:20.30 | jsn | alsaconf didn't find the card, that's my alsa troubles i guess |