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| 00:49.48 | Patrick` | I never got round to rolling my own kernels |
| 00:50.03 | Patrick` | the prepackaged ones worked and the machine was so slow it took 12 hours per aborted trial |
| 00:50.23 | Patrick` | disclaimer: I exclusively roll my own on x86, so it's not just laziness |
| 00:52.32 | SimonRaven | hmm |
| 00:52.39 | pahartik | Patrick`: my 100 MHz Alpha 21068 usually takes 10 hours to build Linux kernel, but that does not really matter |
| 00:53.55 | SimonRaven | just start the build, come back tomorrow ;) |
| 01:00.20 | Patrick` | yeah, and take the internet offline for another 20 minutes for no gain |
| 01:00.38 | Patrick` | I don't flat-out the cpu, ever, so there's no point unless I wanted features (which I don't) |
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| 01:52.59 | SimonRaven | pahartik: try 'CFLAGS="foo bar" make-kpkg ...' ? |
| 02:26.35 | pahartik | SimonRaven: that has not worked before (if I recall correctly), did not work now either |
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| 04:29.29 | SimonRaven | ok. oh well |
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| 11:19.05 | risc- | hi |
| 11:25.03 | pahartik | hello risc- |
| 11:25.43 | risc- | anyone here knows some nice window managers (not fluxbox)? I'd like to try something new :) |
| 11:26.02 | Patrick` | xfce4 |
| 11:26.13 | Patrick` | or for the minimalist in you, ratpoison |
| 11:26.18 | Patrick` | personally I use explorer.exe |
| 11:26.30 | risc- | :P |
| 11:26.31 | Patrick` | but I'm a washed-up old husk of a human being |
| 11:31.24 | pahartik | risc-: also "flwm" was nice and simple |
| 11:32.12 | risc- | anyone tried the current enlightenment? |
| 11:32.34 | risc- | it doesn't have to be too simple, I'd just like some fast wm :) |
| 11:32.55 | risc- | I remember myself using enlightenment 5years ago, but I have no idea hosw it evolved |
| 11:34.43 | risc- | brb |
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| 12:42.11 | demon | Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 4 ports, IRQ sharing disabled |
| 12:42.11 | demon | pmac_zilog: 0.6 (Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>) |
| 12:42.11 | demon | pmac_zilog: Error registering serial device, disabling pmac_zilog. |
| 12:42.11 | demon | pmac_zilog: Did another serial driver already claim the minors? |
| 12:42.14 | demon | anybody know anything about that? |
| 12:42.28 | demon | that didn't happen with 2.6.15-1-powerpc... |
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| 12:46.17 | risc- | anyone here using debian on a powerbook g4?? |
| 12:46.50 | assassin | I'm using it on an iBook G4 |
| 12:47.06 | risc- | using gnome? |
| 12:47.25 | risc- | i just installed it but i'm unable to set touchpad sensibility, it only changes on the usb mouse :s |
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| 12:54.51 | Corsac | risc-: i'm on a powerbook g4 5,6 |
| 12:55.02 | Corsac | but i don't use gnome |
| 12:55.51 | Corsac | but i can confirm, touchpad sensibility isn't changed by mouse settings |
| 12:56.13 | risc- | :s how can you change it? |
| 12:58.12 | Corsac | don't know, maybe on module properties |
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| 13:09.42 | assassin | risc-: man xorg.conf |
| 13:09.50 | assassin | there's mouse settings there |
| 13:09.58 | assassin | if you want a gui for it though |
| 13:10.22 | assassin | can't help |
| 13:10.55 | risc- | for the touchpad also? |
| 13:29.51 | assassin | risc-: yah |
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| 15:41.19 | risc- | is there a good java jdk for debian/ppc ? |
| 15:42.18 | Bor_Ed | yup, both from sun and ibm if you want properietary and tons of f/oss implementations |
| 15:44.50 | risc- | does the jdk download on sun.com works for linuxppc? |
| 15:46.07 | Bor_Ed | they have embeddable version of 1.4.2 for linux/ppc |
| 15:46.36 | risc- | mhm |
| 15:47.20 | Bor_Ed | it's full j2re/jdk though |
| 15:47.31 | risc- | any idea where it is on the website? |
| 15:47.46 | Bor_Ed | downloaded it just a while back... lessee if I have the link |
| 15:48.20 | assassin | risc-: Ibm has one |
| 15:48.37 | Bor_Ed | http://java.sun.com/j2se/embedded/survey.html |
| 15:48.44 | risc- | I guess the sun one is better? |
| 15:48.46 | Bor_Ed | ibm has 1.5.0 though |
| 15:48.54 | risc- | which one is better? |
| 15:48.57 | assassin | the ibm is better |
| 15:49.01 | assassin | but harder to install |
| 15:49.02 | Bor_Ed | ibm is more recent |
| 15:49.12 | risc- | k |
| 15:49.15 | Bor_Ed | assassin: harder to install? untar and make 2 symlinks :) |
| 15:49.26 | risc- | isn't it in apt? |
| 15:49.44 | risc- | k it isn't lol |
| 15:49.45 | Bor_Ed | nope |
| 15:49.52 | assassin | Bor_Ed: and export? |
| 15:50.14 | Bor_Ed | assassin: never have done any exports with ibm java and it has worked standalone as well as browser plugin |
| 15:50.34 | risc- | mhm |
| 15:50.37 | assassin | risc-: ibm wants you to fill out surveys for it, so they fullfill global domination |
| 15:50.58 | Bor_Ed | ibm won't let download if location is on certain countries... this being one of those |
| 15:51.12 | risc- | he? |
| 15:51.15 | assassin | not like there's free proxies or anything |
| 15:51.27 | Bor_Ed | well yea... and tor network |
| 15:51.42 | assassin | tor makes me happy |
| 15:52.31 | risc- | bleh you need to register |
| 15:52.43 | assassin | risc-: gmail ;) |
| 15:53.02 | assassin | I've never gotten spam from ibm though |
| 15:53.38 | risc- | mhm, anyone can type an at for me? can't find it on my keymap :p |
| 15:53.50 | assassin | shift 2? |
| 15:54.00 | assassin | @ |
| 15:54.19 | assassin | he must be on one of those euro keyboards |
| 15:54.20 | risc- | i don't have a descent keymap for my belgian keyboard layout (pb) |
| 15:54.34 | assassin | heh yeah ;) |
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| 15:56.12 | Corsac | johill: \o/ |
| 15:56.28 | risc- | mhm, which download do you need? 32-bit pSeries? |
| 15:57.15 | assassin | yah |
| 15:57.37 | Bor_Ed | if you have adb keyboard, it works as pc105 keyboard... could work on usb kb too |
| 15:58.05 | risc- | adb stands for? |
| 15:58.26 | risc- | assassin: J2SE 5.0? |
| 15:58.33 | Bor_Ed | apple desktop bus == oldworld keyboard |
| 15:59.09 | risc- | ic |
| 16:00.31 | assassin | risc-: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Desktop_Bus |
| 16:01.16 | pahartik | risc-: "adb" stands for "ADB" |
| 16:01.28 | Bor_Ed | my bad... capital letters :o |
| 16:04.56 | risc- | :) |
| 16:04.57 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: yes... :) |
| 16:05.18 | Bor_Ed | buggr finn screwing the dot |
| 16:05.24 | risc- | mhm, Bor_Ed J2SE 5.0 = java 1.5.0? |
| 16:05.30 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 16:06.16 | risc- | ibm-java2-sdk-20-linux-ppc is the one? |
| 16:06.33 | Bor_Ed | I'd guess so |
| 16:06.38 | assassin | you want that... jre... and javacom |
| 16:06.39 | risc- | mhm, there's no jdk |
| 16:06.50 | risc- | only sdk / jre |
| 16:06.56 | Bor_Ed | sdk == software developer kit == java development kit |
| 16:07.20 | risc- | oh stupid mistake :p |
| 16:07.26 | risc- | k |
| 16:20.30 | risc- | it's probably not good if i get some error on loading libstdc++.so.5 :s |
| 16:21.03 | risc- | nvm |
| 16:21.35 | risc- | mhm |
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| 16:27.05 | risc- | Bor_Ed: is your gccveersion <4 ? |
| 16:41.08 | Bor_Ed | 4.something |
| 16:42.43 | Bor_Ed | gcc version 4.0.4 20060422 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.3-2) |
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| 17:02.15 | lazy_ | i get 33 bogomips on beige mac g3, linux-2.6.16, any ideas? |
| 17:02.27 | lazy_ | about 466 would be normal |
| 17:03.12 | Bor_Ed | buggy kernel |
| 17:11.28 | Corsac | nop |
| 17:11.34 | Corsac | bogomips calcul has changed |
| 17:11.42 | Corsac | bogomips : 36.73 |
| 17:11.44 | Corsac | clock : 749.999000MHz |
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| 17:12.25 | Bor_Ed | clock : 315.000000MHz |
| 17:12.28 | Bor_Ed | bogomips : 39.16 |
| 17:12.31 | Bor_Ed | I'll be damned |
| 17:26.21 | risc- | Bor_Ed: and you can use ibm's jdk? |
| 17:28.00 | Bor_Ed | I don't have it installed currently... just the sun one |
| 17:28.13 | risc- | mhm, I think I'll go for the sun one |
| 17:28.42 | Bor_Ed | sun requires one limb, one organ and both testicles on the survey before you can download the sdk |
| 17:28.47 | risc- | because ibm's jdk needs libstdc++.so.5 and gcc 4 has .6 and a symlink doesn't seem to work 'good' |
| 17:33.23 | _rene_ | then just install 4 in addition? |
| 17:33.26 | _rene_ | err |
| 17:33.26 | _rene_ | 5 |
| 17:33.33 | risc- | how? |
| 17:33.37 | _rene_ | err= |
| 17:33.38 | _rene_ | think? |
| 17:33.41 | _rene_ | apt-get install libstdc++5 |
| 17:34.02 | risc- | oh you can simply install it like that, I thought u had to install gcc3 |
| 17:34.15 | pahartik | risc-: "dpkg --search /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5" says "libstdc++5: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5" |
| 17:34.46 | risc- | ok, that works, thanks |
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| 18:08.00 | risc- | ok, problems :s |
| 18:08.44 | risc- | i installed debian on my powerbook, works great, rebooted once, works great, rebooted twice, boots a while then tells me /dev/hda6 (here is debian) does not exist :s |
| 18:09.02 | Corsac | >< |
| 18:10.18 | risc- | strange thing is, my kernel is on the same partition and gets booted |
| 18:11.08 | risc- | i8042.c: No controller found. |
| 18:11.39 | risc- | FATAL: Error inserting i8042 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-powerpc/kernel/drivers/input/serio/i8042.ko): No such device |
| 18:11.50 | risc- | ALERT! /dev/hda6 does not exist. Dropping to a shell! |
| 18:12.44 | assassin | try upgrading your kernel |
| 18:14.12 | risc- | i can't get in |
| 18:17.17 | risc- | mhm |
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| 18:22.37 | mcgreg | does anyone knows how I can check the inode-size of a partition, filesystem? |
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| 19:37.33 | risc- | errr |
| 19:38.44 | risc- | I'm trying to compile a kernel from a chroot using the debian install disk, but i got the error dnsdomainname: No address associated with name and ld: arch/powerpc/kernel/head_32.o: No Such File or Directory at the end, does anyone know how I can get arround this? |
| 20:07.24 | SimonRaven | 2 differnet issues. 1) your hostname and dnsdomainname aren't set 2) try rebuilding, and searching the web for an answer by using the error output as a starting point |
| 20:08.48 | risc- | tried the last part |
| 20:09.04 | risc- | tried rebuilding |
| 20:11.56 | risc- | is it normal that head_32.o isn't there? |
| 20:14.33 | SimonRaven | no, unless there's a bug. hence the google search with the error |
| 20:15.03 | SimonRaven | er, no, it's supposed to be there, probably a bug. |
| 20:21.38 | risc- | :s |
| 20:25.33 | risc- | and i can no longer boot into my 2.6.15-1 |
| 21:17.13 | zasz | good aft ppc fans |
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