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| 03:33.26 | tobobo | hey noobs |
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| 06:39.04 | SimonRaven | look who's talking ... |
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| 09:12.52 | svenl | hi all. |
| 09:13.12 | svenl | someone here knows how to control the fan in G5 machines ? |
| 09:13.42 | svenl | i loaded the therm_pm72 module, and the windfarm_pm112 stuff, but all fans are still full speed :/ |
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| 11:25.00 | fjnieto | hi. I lose my loopback network interface. someone can help? |
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| 13:58.03 | bluebirch | I'm getting the error "Failed to inititalize HFS working directories: No such file or directory" on a hformat in a chroot |
| 13:58.10 | bluebirch | outside the chroot it works |
| 13:58.40 | bluebirch | i'm trying to rerun yaboot which I broke |
| 13:59.08 | bluebirch | so if there is another way to fix yaboot thats just as good |
| 14:11.51 | pahartik | SimonRaven: whee, mysterious problem solved :) |
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| 14:14.00 | pahartik | SimonRaven: to add "CFLAGS" on recent Linux kernels, one should edit "arch/powerpc/Makefile" instead of "arch/ppc/Makefile" |
| 14:14.36 | johill | sounds like gentoo :P |
| 14:19.35 | pahartik | johill: Linux 2.6.16 sounds like Gentoo? |
| 14:19.53 | johill | no, messing around with the cflags |
| 14:21.37 | pahartik | johill: "building from source" even if Debian binary package is provided sounds more like Gentoo |
| 14:22.29 | johill | heh I guess so, though I keep patching my kernels so no real choice :) |
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| 14:41.43 | SimonRaven | pahartik: ah, ok. cool :) |
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| 15:33.26 | zasz | well |
| 15:33.52 | zasz | the oldworld powerbook is a slave bind9 server to my active directory DNS |
| 15:33.59 | zasz | that should be a good enough use |
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| 18:21.02 | lilgg- | Im trying to compile a new kernel from sources but im having a problem choosing the subarch type and the processor family. so anyone can help me out? |
| 18:21.05 | lilgg- | thanks |
| 18:21.27 | Corsac | what hardware do you have ? |
| 18:21.35 | lilgg- | an ibook |
| 18:21.46 | lilgg- | an ibook g4 1.33ghz* |
| 18:22.25 | Corsac | cat /proc/cpuinfo should help you |
| 18:22.32 | Corsac | cpu should be a 74* |
| 18:24.32 | lilgg- | true, its a 7447A but there's no such processor family in make menuconfig. |
| 18:27.22 | lilgg- | Corsac: i'm trying to choose the options from make menuconfig. apparently i'm ignoring what a 74* cpu's name is. do you know the choise i need to make from make menuconfig? |
| 18:28.24 | lilgg- | (or anyone else....) |
| 18:29.56 | Corsac | lilgg-: i'm on a powerbook g4 but it shouldn't be too different |
| 18:30.06 | Corsac | in Processor Type i've chosen 6xx/7xx/74xx |
| 18:31.18 | lilgg- | Corsac: is that the option before Pentium-Clasic? |
| 18:31.28 | Corsac | eh ? |
| 18:31.32 | Corsac | "pentium" ? |
| 18:31.56 | lilgg- | 586/k5/5x86/6x86/6x86MX ? |
| 18:32.09 | Corsac | meh |
| 18:32.17 | Corsac | you shouldn't have that on a ppc box, i guess |
| 18:32.49 | lilgg- | me too...which brings me to the question of which sub architecture i should be shoosing if not 'PC compatible' |
| 18:32.58 | lilgg- | probably not AMD Elan |
| 18:33.02 | lilgg- | neither Voyager |
| 18:33.03 | Corsac | well, were di you chose the subarch ? |
| 18:33.05 | lilgg- | nor SGI |
| 18:33.32 | lilgg- | i choose that from the ncurses menu after i issue 'make menuconfig' |
| 18:33.51 | Corsac | yeah but where in the menu ? |
| 18:34.49 | lilgg- | Processor type and features--> Subarchitecture Type |
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| 18:35.10 | Corsac | i don't have "processor type and features" |
| 18:35.12 | Corsac | :) |
| 18:35.17 | lilgg- | the pentium ones are under Processor type and features--> Processor familly |
| 18:35.46 | lilgg- | Corsac: should i not download the latest source tree from kernel.org and then compile it? |
| 18:36.03 | lilgg- | are there seperatee sources for PPC for the kernel?????? |
| 18:36.35 | Corsac | no i don't think so |
| 18:36.48 | Corsac | but it should detect your machine type when running make menuconfig, i guess |
| 18:38.51 | lilgg- | Corsac: when i'm on my pentium pc and i want to compile my own kernel for my own hardware i go to kernel.org, download the ~30MB sources, extract them and then choose acording to my hardware using 'make menuconfig' |
| 18:39.19 | lilgg- | isnt that the way i should go do choose according to hardware for my ibook as well? |
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| 18:50.13 | pahartik | lilgg-: your description of "make menuconfig" sounds strange... |
| 18:51.58 | lilgg- | pahartik: you mean the subarchitecture and processor familly submenus? |
| 18:52.10 | Corsac | lilgg-: you try to make menuconfig on the pentium or on the ibook |
| 18:52.34 | lilgg- | Corsac: the pentium indeed |
| 18:52.48 | lilgg- | is that why it gives me different menus? |
| 18:52.49 | lilgg- | wow |
| 18:53.12 | lilgg- | the pentium to answer to Corsac |
| 18:53.38 | Corsac | well, do that on the g4 |
| 18:53.40 | pahartik | lilgg-: you are trying to cross-compile Linux kernel then? |
| 18:54.32 | lilgg- | Corsac: i just did make menuconfig on the g4 and got some nasty errors from scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/chechklist.o |
| 18:54.39 | lilgg- | pahartik: no |
| 18:54.55 | lilgg- | Error 1 from checklist.o |
| 18:54.58 | lilgg- | :'( |
| 18:55.23 | pahartik | lilgg-: Linux 2.6.16? |
| 18:55.25 | lilgg- | errors about some undeclared functions |
| 18:55.37 | lilgg- | pahartik: yeah, linux 2.6.16.2 |
| 18:56.18 | pahartik | lilgg-: maybe you should try "make distclean" before "make menuconfig"? |
| 18:56.28 | lilgg- | let's |
| 18:57.03 | lilgg- | nop |
| 18:57.11 | lilgg- | same error |
| 18:57.34 | lilgg- | the source tree was cleanly extracted before issuing 'make menuconfig' for the first time |
| 18:57.53 | Bor_Ed | try make defconfig before menuconfig |
| 18:57.58 | pahartik | lilgg-: your build environment is somehow broken... |
| 18:57.58 | lilgg- | lets |
| 18:58.45 | Bor_Ed | it helps to apt-get install kernel-package build-essential ncurses5-dev too |
| 18:59.34 | lilgg- | Bor_Ed: "Can't find default configuration " arch/powerpc/configs/ppc_defconfig"! " |
| 19:00.19 | Bor_Ed | hmm,works here(tm) |
| 19:00.23 | lilgg- | hmmm |
| 19:00.51 | lilgg- | well the problem is that g4 has not net connection atm so i guess i would have to go back home to apt-get the above Bor_Ed sugested |
| 19:01.17 | lilgg- | is there something else to note? |
| 19:03.27 | lilgg- | Bor_Ed: is it ncurses that is not installed? |
| 19:03.28 | pahartik | lilgg-: my custom Linux 2.6.16 package built from Debian linux-source-2.6.16 package works just fine on iBook G4 (late 2004) |
| 19:04.08 | Bor_Ed | looks like ncurses-dev... though haven't had such error in ages |
| 19:04.09 | lilgg- | mine is mid 2005; could you send me your .config though? |
| 19:04.30 | lilgg- | hmmmm Bor_Ed |
| 19:05.00 | Bor_Ed | kernel-package assumes you use make config to drop the deps afaik |
| 19:05.02 | pahartik | lilgg-: http://pahartik.iki.fi/~pahartik/config-2.6.16-kiara-pahartik |
| 19:05.48 | lilgg- | thanks alot dude! |
| 19:07.54 | pahartik | lilgg-: my config does have support for ADB input devices that older iBook G4 had, I do not know what to change for USB input devices... |
| 19:09.08 | lilgg- | pahartik: thank you ill check it when i get home. bubye |
| 19:13.21 | netman2 | hi there |
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| 23:23.02 | jck77 | <-- need help with the xserve settings on a imac g4 700hz 15" flat panel |
| 23:23.42 | jck77 | my screen get all red |
| 23:23.43 | pahartik | jck77: iMac is not Xserve... |
| 23:23.52 | jck77 | umm |
| 23:24.02 | jck77 | what i should run? |
| 23:24.48 | jck77 | i test with the ubuntu live cd to see the config file, and it use xorg |
| 23:26.07 | jck77 | so it won't work? |
| 23:26.25 | pahartik | jck77: oh, X11 server... "xserver-xorg" should work just fine |
| 23:26.46 | jck77 | umm |
| 23:27.06 | jck77 | ok thanks i'm gonna try that |
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| 23:50.39 | Patrick` | how in the name of GOD do I get a 6500 open |
| 23:51.07 | Patrick` | I tried sprinkling it with holy water and reciting the book of revalations |
| 23:52.36 | jck77 | pahartik: i don't see the xserver-xorg in the source list i mean i do the apt-cache search and don't display any package |
| 23:52.43 | jck77 | :-/ |
| 23:54.32 | jck77 | that package is in the sid or unstable source list? |
| 23:57.36 | pahartik | jck77: of "xserver-xorg" I am using version from "etch" branch on iBook G4, have been trying version from "sid" branch on PowerMacintosh 5500 but it has not worked for me yet |
| 23:58.40 | pahartik | jck77: http://packages.debian.org/xserver-xorg |
| 23:58.49 | Patrick` | seriously, the 6500 has all these guides online about how to open it and they all 404 or want money |
| 23:59.03 | Patrick` | it looks like the top is meant to slide off as step 1, but no go |
| 23:59.11 | Patrick` | and yes I took the screw out |
| 23:59.44 | jck77 | i see |