| 00:01.03 | gizmo | Corsac: apt-get dist-upgrade is complete. reboot now? :) |
| 00:01.54 | Corsac | yeah that could be a good idea |
| 00:02.06 | SimonRaven | though you don't need to |
| 00:02.29 | gizmo | i'm trying to boot now |
| 00:02.36 | gizmo | (normal mode, not single) |
| 00:02.59 | gizmo | nope :( same thing. |
| 00:03.05 | gizmo | HA! |
| 00:03.35 | gizmo | It worked! the infamous screen disappeared after a moment and now there's the gnome login screen \o/ |
| 00:03.40 | gizmo | thank you Corsac! |
| 00:04.19 | gizmo | there's a slight error on the right side of the display, though. |
| 00:04.31 | gizmo | weird stripes, approx. 200px of width |
| 00:05.28 | gizmo | where are the video settings in gnome? |
| 00:08.45 | gizmo | ugh, first crash :> |
| 00:09.54 | gizmo | hm. Now when I try to power it up, all I get is extremely loud cooler noise |
| 00:10.01 | gizmo | apple is quite clever :) |
| 00:11.38 | gizmo | are the ati drivers recommended? |
| 00:14.38 | Corsac | fglrx you mean ? |
| 00:14.47 | gizmo | https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27 |
| 00:15.27 | Corsac | they don't exist for linux/powerpc |
| 00:15.37 | gizmo | ah, okay. |
| 00:15.58 | gizmo | Hm, I can't get a better resolution as 1280*768 at the moment.. :\ |
| 00:17.22 | gizmo | how do I add a desktop background? I've picked one but nothing happens :\ |
| 00:30.46 | gizmo | I think that's enough for today :) |
| 00:31.28 | gizmo | good night |
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| 03:38.59 | sklerose | hello |
| 03:39.30 | sklerose | anyone knows of a decent X keymap for azerty ibook G4? |
| 03:39.41 | sklerose | a french keyboard |
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| 04:15.44 | aweil | are there some tips/site for configuring ibook wifi? |
| 04:31.44 | TBBle | aweil: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/ I'd speculate... See also apt-cache search bcm43xx |
| 04:33.55 | aweil | TBBIe: i'll try.. the real problem is that it should be working because is loaded by kernel, an we can configure it but doesn't connects :S . Thanks i'll check the link |
| 04:34.39 | aweil | or better #bcm-users. thanks |
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| 06:50.07 | svenl | Corsac: sure. yaboot has a netboot buffer, which Ethan Benson refused to grow too much. |
| 06:50.50 | svenl | Corsac: it is set to 6MB right now. I would just set it to something bigger, and rebuild yaboot, but then Ethan would probably excommunicate you or something over it :) |
| 06:51.08 | svenl | SimonRaven: the gtk installer used to be 20MB :) |
| 06:52.08 | SimonRaven | holy |
| 07:01.34 | svenl | SimonRaven: given that this included a fully un-stripped gtk app, and the removing of unused symbols found was not done, and it included multiple redundant full utf-8 graphical fonts, it is no surprise though. |
| 07:02.04 | SimonRaven | indeed it isn't |
| 07:11.01 | svenl | SimonRaven: the standard ramdisk is around 5-6 MB though, so the graphical apps and fonts only bring a 3MB overhead (compressed) which you can compare to your average gtk app ... |
| 07:11.57 | SimonRaven | full-blown gtp app is much larger ... |
| 07:12.02 | SimonRaven | gtk* |
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| 07:31.33 | Corsac | svenl: that's what i've done, it worked here |
| 07:31.57 | Corsac | svenl: the gtk installed booted, but then there was and endless loop at gtk initialization |
| 07:32.02 | svenl | Corsac: please file a bug report about your experience against yaboot. |
| 07:32.07 | Corsac | i guess i need to reportbug a bug agains gtk installer ? |
| 07:32.12 | Corsac | svenl: ok |
| 07:32.28 | svenl | Corsac: it is a yaboot bug, tag it d-i, and cc debian-boot. |
| 07:32.31 | svenl | don't mention me though. |
| 07:32.52 | SimonRaven | eb would have a fit |
| 07:32.53 | Corsac | (btw yaboot is orphaned, atm) |
| 07:33.05 | Corsac | svenl: and for the gtk-bug ? |
| 07:36.55 | svenl | Corsac: ah, ... so it is present still. |
| 07:37.22 | svenl | Corsac: that is a separate bug, and yes, you should file a bug against debian-installer for it. |
| 07:37.50 | svenl | SimonRaven: well, he is more calm now, that the fedora core guys have menaced to take over the yaboot maintainership :) |
| 07:38.33 | SimonRaven | ooh |
| 07:38.46 | Corsac | meh, why #242348 isn't listed on yaboot bugs page ? |
| 07:39.18 | svenl | yaboot is orphaned anyway. |
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| 07:52.04 | Corsac | johill: \o/ |
| 07:52.10 | johill | morning :) |
| 07:52.13 | johill | don't you ever sleep? ;) |
| 07:52.38 | Corsac | never ! |
| 07:54.03 | johill | good to know, at least then I don't have to feel bad about sleeping ;) |
| 07:54.35 | Corsac | :) |
| 07:55.08 | johill | did your ipv6 work out? |
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| 07:55.33 | korsak | it seems so |
| 07:55.34 | korsak | :) |
| 07:56.01 | korsak | (but that ip is really...) |
| 07:58.50 | johill | :) |
| 07:59.09 | johill | I'm going to install radvd for my home subnet once I get my own subnet allocation |
| 07:59.20 | johill | let the stupid router do it for me :) |
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| 08:00.01 | korsak | well |
| 08:00.04 | korsak | look at the end |
| 08:00.11 | korsak | 11:24ff:fe96:be70 |
| 08:00.21 | korsak | does it not remember you something ? :) |
| 08:00.56 | korsak | (but my prefix is a 6to4 one, maybe that's why i don't have a reverse) |
| 08:01.26 | SimonRaven | yes, that's a v6 ip |
| 08:01.35 | johill | that's your mac in there |
| 08:01.36 | SimonRaven | no, your dns isn't set up |
| 08:01.48 | korsak | SimonRaven: it should be |
| 08:01.48 | johill | 00:11:24:96:be:70 |
| 08:01.52 | korsak | johill: :) |
| 08:02.05 | SimonRaven | not necessarily |
| 08:02.06 | korsak | SimonRaven: but I may have made a mistake on my reverse zone, though |
| 08:02.35 | korsak | Host 0.7.e.b.6.9.e.f.f.f.4.2.1.1.2.0.0.0.0.0.c.b.a.c.0.e.2.5.2.0.0.2.ip6.arpa not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) |
| 08:03.03 | korsak | but the trace stops at 2.0.0.2.ip6.arpa. 172800 IN SOA ns3.apnic.net. dns-admin.apnic.net. 2004074187 7200 1800 604800 172800 |
| 08:03.32 | SimonRaven | dig -x 2002:... +trace |
| 08:03.48 | korsak | yes, my last line is the last line of that :) |
| 08:03.53 | SimonRaven | ok |
| 08:04.12 | korsak | http://heracles.corsac.net/~corsac/reverse.txt |
| 08:04.45 | korsak | but I don't know if I need to setup something for working reverse |
| 08:04.57 | korsak | the zone is loaded in bind |
| 08:05.33 | johill | assuming you're assigned already, it should "just" be a matter of finding the right zone entries :) |
| 08:05.39 | SimonRaven | there's a site that has a script to set up your ipv6 zones. input proper info and voila |
| 08:05.43 | Corsac | svenl: http://www.freenews.fr/index.php?itemid=3316 |
| 08:05.56 | Corsac | SimonRaven: that's what i've done :) |
| 08:06.04 | SimonRaven | ok |
| 08:06.14 | korsak | ; Zone file built with the fpsn.net IPv6 Reverse DNS zone builder |
| 08:06.14 | korsak | ; http://tools.fpsn.net/ipv6-inaddr |
| 08:06.24 | SimonRaven | *nods* |
| 08:06.30 | korsak | but i'm not sure I'm « assigned » |
| 08:06.52 | johill | what's the name of your rdns server |
| 08:07.27 | korsak | ns.corsac.net |
| 08:07.40 | johill | wait aren't you using the anycast ipv6 stuff? |
| 08:07.45 | johill | in that case you cannot have rdns |
| 08:07.54 | korsak | i'm using 6to4 tunneling |
| 08:07.59 | johill | ok |
| 08:08.02 | korsak | free doesn't have native ipv6 |
| 08:08.15 | johill | right, and we see your mac. ok never mind |
| 08:08.41 | johill | anyway, wherever you got your /48 from (I assume you have one since you got the mac in there) you'll have to tell them to assign your dns server to the rdns for that /48 |
| 08:09.25 | korsak | well, in 6to4 you don't get your /48 from anywhere :/ |
| 08:09.35 | johill | what's your configuration setup now? |
| 08:09.57 | korsak | johill: the prefix is made by my static ipv4 address (82.224.202.188) |
| 08:10.02 | korsak | in the 2002: part |
| 08:10.10 | johill | ah right you're 2002 |
| 08:10.20 | korsak | i have a /64 prefix based on 2002:82.224.202.188:: :) |
| 08:10.26 | johill | real addresses are 2001 ;) |
| 08:10.32 | johill | you can't have rdns then |
| 08:10.32 | korsak | yeah |
| 08:10.35 | korsak | mpf |
| 08:10.47 | korsak | i may change to a tunnel broker made solution |
| 08:11.05 | johill | yeah, check out sixxs.net, lots of admin overhead but they have PoP's everywhere |
| 08:13.10 | korsak | uh, i should add an entry in ripe services ? |
| 08:13.44 | johill | you'd probably have to unless you have one already :) |
| 08:14.07 | korsak | i don't :) |
| 08:14.21 | korsak | well maybe i have (from my domain name) but i don't know if it feets |
| 08:14.39 | korsak | fits |
| 08:15.40 | johill | it doesn't ;) |
| 08:15.45 | korsak | ok :) |
| 08:16.19 | johill | thing with sixxs is that you'll have to wait a week before you can have a /48 |
| 08:16.27 | johill | and you need to keep your tunnel up for most of the time |
| 08:16.34 | johill | read the faq on credits first :) |
| 08:16.53 | johill | I'm having my linksys do it which is always online, so no big deal, but ... |
| 08:17.42 | korsak | with an openwrt firmware ? |
| 08:18.03 | johill | yes |
| 08:18.38 | korsak | ok |
| 08:25.28 | johill | ok, I'll continue cleaning up via-pmu.c :) |
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| 08:35.48 | risc- | morning |
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| 08:49.54 | korsak | johill: i've subscribed to sixxs, now waiting :) |
| 08:50.28 | johill | they do everything manually |
| 08:50.51 | korsak | yeah, i've seen |
| 08:51.03 | korsak | * = Depending on the time of day, mostly <30 minutes, but at most in 24 hours. |
| 08:51.10 | korsak | aiccu is proprietary ? |
| 08:55.00 | johill | no, aiccu is gpl I think |
| 08:55.15 | johill | look on their download page |
| 08:56.11 | johill | mwahaha. hopefully that'll cut down on the 1300+ spams I get per months (all filtered though!) |
| 08:56.46 | korsak | i don't know why my spamassassin-enabled amavisd lets so many spams go |
| 08:58.03 | johill | I have dspam which filters them out into a spam folder, but it still annoys me that it is so full |
| 08:59.05 | korsak | erf, the "stable" aiccu packages is: aiccu_2004-09-17-beta2b_i386_woody.deb |
| 08:59.06 | korsak | hihi |
| 09:00.21 | johill | heh |
| 09:00.35 | johill | the openwrt package works for me |
| 09:01.03 | korsak | i've installed the "unstable" ( aiccu_2005-01-31_i386.deb ) package |
| 09:01.42 | johill | :) |
| 09:01.43 | korsak | i have an wrt54g router in front of my server, but i don't want to touch it |
| 09:01.44 | johill | back in a bit |
| 09:01.47 | korsak | ok |
| 09:01.47 | johill | heh |
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| 09:37.39 | johill | bah. like people on debian-powerpc don't care about new feature patches. |
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| 09:54.15 | risc- | anyone here running kernel 2.6.17-rc3? |
| 09:56.27 | johill | risc-: not yet, still running wireless-dev git which is somewhere between rc2 and rc3 |
| 09:57.55 | risc- | I installed the 2.6.15 kernel with the patch for softmac (to get airport extreme working), then I'm trying to compile the standalone bcm43xx and it simply fails |
| 09:58.06 | risc- | stuff like: 932: error: syntax error before ‘bcm43xx’ |
| 09:59.25 | johill | yeah well, it comes with bcm43xx now |
| 09:59.41 | johill | and all relevant softmac patches too I think |
| 09:59.50 | risc- | ? |
| 10:00.05 | risc- | ah the kernel |
| 10:00.35 | risc- | yes, I tried the kernel but I need to work on a new kernel config file cause I'm kinda new with my powerbook's hardware |
| 10:01.03 | johill | well what I'm saying is that you don't need to patch 2.6.17-rc3 for bcm43xx |
| 10:04.06 | risc- | i know |
| 10:04.30 | risc- | i had 2.6.17-rc3 kinda working, my ae was detected |
| 10:04.32 | johill | ah I misread you, I thought you were trying to patch 2.6.17-rc3 |
| 10:04.39 | risc- | but when i tried iwlist eth1 |
| 10:04.42 | risc- | it gave me some error |
| 10:04.51 | johill | surely iwlist eth1 scan |
| 10:04.57 | johill | did you ifconfig eth1 up first? |
| 10:05.03 | risc- | SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory |
| 10:05.09 | risc- | when i tried to get it up |
| 10:05.10 | johill | you didn't install firmware |
| 10:05.21 | johill | have you ever looked at the kernel messages? |
| 10:05.55 | risc- | yeah google also told me that |
| 10:05.57 | risc- | kernel messages? |
| 10:06.03 | risc- | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:08.32 | johill | dmesg |
| 10:09.09 | risc- | jupz didn't checked it yesterday |
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| 10:16.47 | risc- | aight, testing |
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| 10:31.06 | gizmo | how do I exit single-user mode and go over to mode 2? |
| 10:31.46 | johill | just exit the root shell |
| 10:31.55 | johill | it told you that when you logged in... |
| 10:33.20 | gizmo | okay, sorry. |
| 10:36.16 | gizmo | Hm.. Somehow Gnome or xserver won't let me choose the "correct" screen resolution of 1440*960, how can I fix this? 1440*900 is quite faultive :\ 1280* is the best possible at the moment but it's ugly.. |
| 10:37.18 | johill | because you haven't configured it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 10:37.31 | johill | go in there and find all the 1440x900 and replace them with 1440x960 |
| 10:40.36 | gizmo | k |
| 10:41.13 | gizmo | haha, weird problem, what's the "del" in debian on ppc? :) it's not fn+backspace ;) |
| 10:45.29 | gizmo | do I have to reboot to apply the new xorg.conf? |
| 10:46.41 | Corsac | no, just restart X |
| 10:46.57 | johill | it is fn-backspace if the kernel had the right control enabled |
| 10:47.00 | johill | that way, it doesn't exist |
| 10:47.09 | johill | I hope there's a kernel bug open ;) |
| 10:47.20 | Corsac | johill: meh? |
| 10:47.32 | johill | well the kernel has fn-backspace for del if you configure it correctly |
| 10:47.40 | johill | afaik, debian still doesn't configure it correctly |
| 10:47.43 | Corsac | and by default it's not configurer correctly ? |
| 10:47.44 | Corsac | ah, yes |
| 10:47.49 | Corsac | that's possible |
| 10:47.57 | johill | haven't checked lately |
| 10:48.21 | Corsac | CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT_POWERBOOK ? |
| 10:48.50 | johill | right |
| 10:49.48 | gizmo | what's the command to restart X? |
| 10:50.07 | johill | /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 10:51.13 | Corsac | corsac@hidalgo: grep powerbook /boot/config-2.6.16-1-powerpc [~] |
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| 10:51.16 | Corsac | # CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT_POWERBOOK is not set |
| 10:51.19 | Corsac | meheh |
| 10:51.29 | gizmo | wow, logging out didn't work :( |
| 10:51.43 | johill | while you're at it, mind checking if there's a bug against linux-image or so? :) |
| 10:51.58 | Corsac | johill: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=336382 |
| 10:52.11 | johill | oh yours even :) |
| 10:52.13 | Corsac | :)) |
| 10:52.34 | johill | wait I remember talking about this with you now. heh |
| 10:52.41 | Corsac | yes |
| 10:52.59 | johill | "what't the state of that in linux image 2.6.12?" |
| 10:53.01 | johill | meh |
| 10:53.32 | Corsac | the two bugs I opened this morning aren't ack'ed :( |
| 10:53.42 | johill | bug tracker lagging? |
| 10:57.16 | gizmo | 60hz is a good refresh rate for the powerbook panel, right? |
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| 11:05.39 | gizmo | Hm, there is no flashplayer for 'ppc' architecture? :( |
| 11:06.43 | Corsac | no |
| 11:06.46 | Corsac | well |
| 11:06.50 | Corsac | there is, but really unstable |
| 11:07.57 | gizmo | I won't bother then. I mostly avoid flash pages anyway. |
| 11:08.51 | gizmo | next: how do I get the sound working? :) |
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| 11:15.51 | gizmo | alsa doesn't work as of yet L\ |
| 11:16.43 | johill | install snd-aoa |
| 11:16.51 | johill | snd-powermac will never work on your machine |
| 11:17.24 | johill | unless someone fixes it, which is highly unlikely since... who would? :) |
| 11:18.59 | gizmo | snd-aoa = package? |
| 11:19.41 | johill | no |
| 11:19.51 | johill | my new sound driver |
| 11:20.06 | johill | google for the right link, I don't know it off the top of my head either ;) |
| 11:20.22 | johill | Corsac: with the led patch, do you also get spurious mouse button presses if you enable it? weird |
| 11:20.47 | johill | wow, the led interface has a stupid bug |
| 11:20.50 | Corsac | what do you mean by spurious ? |
| 11:20.58 | johill | well I didn't click the mouse button |
| 11:21.25 | johill | nah, must've been fluke, I don't get them. something else unrelated probably |
| 11:22.04 | johill | johannes:/sys/class/leds/pmu-front-led# echo 255 > brightness |
| 11:22.04 | johill | bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument |
| 11:22.07 | johill | but the led turns on |
| 11:22.08 | johill | suckers |
| 11:23.35 | Corsac | i've weird behaviour with my wheel mouse in firefox (wheel up sometimes do"Back") |
| 11:27.38 | gizmo | I can't find snd-aoa or find out how to handle it :( |
| 11:27.53 | gizmo | I've got this: http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/snd-aoa.git/ |
| 11:36.11 | johill | yeah now install cogito and clone it |
| 11:41.46 | gizmo | Um, what's "cogito"? |
| 11:42.40 | johill | a source code management system |
| 11:43.17 | gizmo | k, thanks |
| 11:46.33 | gizmo | does it matter where I clone it? |
| 11:48.01 | gizmo | I tried to clone it to the desktop, but I got this: cg-fetch: unable to get the HEAD branch |
| 11:48.02 | gizmo | :( |
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| 11:51.56 | gizmo | tried to do a new login but it always crashes there :( |
| 11:57.12 | gizmo | hm, what can I do if the cg-fetch fails? |
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| 12:13.58 | johill | you want cg-clone |
| 12:14.49 | gizmo | well I did this: cg clone url snd-aoa |
| 12:14.54 | gizmo | then I got the error.. |
| 12:16.41 | gizmo | "Fetching head... /usr/bin/cg-fetch: line 155: curl: command not found <br /> cg-fetch: unable to get the HEAD branch" |
| 12:16.42 | gizmo | :\ |
| 12:16.46 | johill | hah |
| 12:16.50 | johill | missing dependency on curl then |
| 12:16.57 | johill | install curl and file a bug report on cogito |
| 12:17.32 | gizmo | apt-get install curl ? |
| 12:18.26 | gizmo | where do I file bug reports? |
| 12:18.45 | johill | reportbug |
| 12:25.19 | gizmo | I get a list of bugs. What would "my" bug look like? |
| 12:25.49 | johill | missing dependency on curl |
| 12:26.36 | johill | probably like this one though |
| 12:26.36 | johill | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=350919 |
| 12:26.42 | johill | so don't bother |
| 12:27.24 | gizmo | hm.. how can I cancel? |
| 12:27.49 | johill | ctrl-c :) |
| 12:27.58 | gizmo | :) |
| 12:27.59 | johill | or strg-c for your keyboard mabye ;) |
| 12:28.13 | gizmo | it's a swiss (french) keyboard. it's ctrl |
| 12:28.47 | gizmo | I've cloned the snd-aoa. What now? :) |
| 12:29.31 | johill | go into it and compile it etc. |
| 12:29.56 | gizmo | make fails :( |
| 12:30.53 | johill | compile your own kernel then ;) or install the right linux-source package and hope it works |
| 12:32.04 | gizmo | you're aware I'm a novice, right? :> |
| 12:35.22 | gizmo | hmpf :( |
| 12:35.56 | johill | just build your own kernel, install kernel-package, read its docs, make your own kernel deb, and install that |
| 12:35.57 | johill | :) |
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| 12:40.41 | gizmo | that'll be fun :\ |
| 12:40.45 | gizmo | thanks. |
| 12:41.49 | johill | while at it, configure the powerbook hid support too :) |
| 12:42.37 | gizmo | what's "hid"? |
| 12:43.13 | gizmo | nevermind. |
| 12:43.31 | gizmo | it's not that buggy, is it? |
| 12:44.18 | gizmo | I'm currently browsing your(?) MoinMoin page a lot, I'll try to get everything working like you(?) have. |
| 12:45.33 | pahartik | gizmo: "HID" stands for "Human Interface Device" and usually refers to Bluetooth or USB keyboards and other input devices |
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| 13:11.48 | Corsac | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=341597 \o/ |
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| 13:42.01 | Corsac | Subject: [SixXS] User Approved (YP195-RIPE) \o/ |
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| 14:00.11 | johill | Corsac: :) |
| 14:00.19 | johill | Corsac: can you test if 2001:618:400:2ca6::1 has rdns? |
| 14:00.59 | Corsac | Host 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.6.a.c.2.0.0.4.0.8.1.6.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) |
| 14:01.14 | johill | hrm |
| 14:01.23 | johill | I wonder why not, I delegated rdns |
| 14:02.47 | Corsac | well |
| 14:02.54 | Corsac | 0.8.1.6.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa. 172800 IN NS ns.ipv6.bt.com. |
| 14:02.54 | Corsac | 0.8.1.6.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa. 172800 IN NS dns0.axion.bt.co.uk. |
| 14:02.54 | Corsac | ;; Received 151 bytes from 2001:660:3006:1::1:1#53(ns3.nic.fr) in 70 ms |
| 14:02.54 | Corsac | ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
| 14:03.24 | Corsac | (they dont ping) |
| 14:03.33 | Corsac | From v6-tunnel-largo-adastral.ipv6.btexact.com icmp_seq=1 Destination unreachable: Address unreachable |
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| 14:04.01 | johill | hrm |
| 14:05.58 | Corsac | control@debian.org seems completely down |
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| 14:11.42 | Corsac | arf. |
| 14:11.56 | Corsac | just received the ack |
| 14:14.47 | johill | heh |
| 14:16.11 | Corsac | (but nothing for the two bug of this morning) |
| 14:16.45 | johill | heh |
| 14:16.50 | johill | maybe stuck on your mail server queue? |
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| 14:18.10 | Corsac | no, they're not in the web BTS |
| 14:22.00 | johill | Corsac: actually, aiccu is bsd |
| 14:22.02 | johill | licensed |
| 14:22.36 | Corsac | so ? |
| 14:22.39 | Corsac | ah, yes |
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| 14:42.01 | gizmo | Hm, do you think I can get my canon printer (wireless) to work in debian? :) |
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| 14:55.53 | SimonRaven | linux-printing.org |
| 14:56.44 | Corsac | The SixXS Staff have honored your request for a tunnel \o/ |
| 14:56.49 | johill | :) |
| 14:57.12 | SimonRaven | Corsac: i'm still working on it |
| 14:57.20 | Corsac | SimonRaven: ? |
| 14:57.34 | SimonRaven | sixxs |
| 14:57.42 | Corsac | you're a staff member ? |
| 14:57.58 | SimonRaven | no, i'm editing my person object |
| 14:58.02 | Corsac | ok :) |
| 14:58.08 | SimonRaven | :) |
| 14:58.18 | SimonRaven | hehe |
| 14:59.04 | SimonRaven | editing the address so it isn't all on one line, waiting for the db update |
| 14:59.14 | gizmo | SimonRaven: linux-printing doesn't support my printer :( |
| 14:59.52 | SimonRaven | then you'll have to find a ppd for it from your manufacturer |
| 15:01.15 | gizmo | what's a ppd? |
| 15:01.31 | gizmo | "PostScript Printer Description"? |
| 15:04.59 | johill | gosh |
| 15:05.05 | johill | the lmu has an entry in the device tree |
| 15:05.08 | johill | and I go hunting for it |
| 15:05.16 | johill | arf. who wrote pbbuttonsd? |
| 15:08.59 | SimonRaven | yup |
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| 15:27.09 | johill | hmm |
| 15:27.15 | johill | my lmu driver doesn't work |
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| 15:29.46 | johill | heh it isn't even invoked |
| 15:29.48 | johill | boggle |
| 15:30.24 | Corsac | gngn |
| 15:30.29 | Corsac | sixxs tunnel doesnt work |
| 15:30.33 | johill | works for me :) |
| 15:30.37 | johill | with aiccu |
| 15:31.05 | Corsac | From ip6-localhost icmp_seq=1 Destination unreachable: Address unreachable |
| 15:31.15 | Corsac | but it worked |
| 15:31.16 | johill | ohh, missing braces. sucks |
| 15:31.17 | Corsac | i guess |
| 15:31.21 | Corsac | ? |
| 15:32.00 | johill | hah works now |
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| 15:35.04 | Corsac | traceroute to 2001:6f8:202:d6::1 (2001:6f8:202:d6::1) from 2001:6f8:202:d6::2, 30 hops max, 16 byte packets |
| 15:35.07 | Corsac | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:35.11 | Corsac | does it speaks ? :/ |
| 15:35.29 | gizmo | where do I see what kernel I am using? |
| 15:35.36 | Corsac | gizmo: uname -a |
| 15:35.42 | gizmo | merci |
| 15:37.17 | gizmo | how can I have a newer kernel than the most recent on kernel.org? |
| 15:37.25 | Corsac | code it ? |
| 15:38.20 | gizmo | Um, what I meant, how is it possible to have a newer without it having coded.. because I happen to have a newer but I didn't do anything.. |
| 15:39.35 | pahartik | gizmo: you are just confused by something |
| 15:41.12 | gizmo | hm. kernel.org doesn't list my 2.6.16-1-powerpc kernel. |
| 15:41.46 | johill | well duh, that's a debian version |
| 15:41.47 | pahartik | gizmo: it is Linux 2.6.16... |
| 15:42.07 | gizmo | that's what uname -a gave me. what part is the kernel, then? :> |
| 15:43.03 | pahartik | gizmo: ...with appropriate patches... |
| 15:44.03 | gizmo | you know, it's very complicated to understand what "you guys" are talking about. I'm sorry if I've annoyed you, but there are actually people who aren't into debian as long as you are. :) |
| 15:44.15 | Corsac | --- www.kame.net ping statistics --- |
| 15:44.15 | Corsac | 2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 1001ms |
| 15:44.17 | Corsac | woot. |
| 15:45.18 | pahartik | gizmo: to see details, one can use "zless /usr/share/doc/linux-image-$(uname --release)/changelog.Debian.gz" |
| 15:50.33 | gizmo | thank you. |
| 15:54.23 | Corsac | hmmh, but now i don't have a subnet |
| 15:54.24 | pahartik | gizmo: Linux kernel versioning changed on Linux 2.6.11, as they started using extraversion with additional dot and number on official releases |
| 15:54.28 | Corsac | until at least a week |
| 15:58.06 | gizmo | where do I change the settings of the touchpad? it works just fine but it's so slow :\ |
| 15:59.20 | pahartik | gizmo: Debian did not adopt that directly, so Debian kernels have versions like "2.6.16-10" while matching upstream Linux kernel source is "2.6.16.11" |
| 15:59.57 | gizmo | pahartik: I see. |
| 16:07.45 | gizmo | how do I restart X again? :\ |
| 16:07.47 | risc- | anyone here using e17? |
| 16:07.56 | gizmo | I don't want to log out, because the system will crash! |
| 16:39.45 | gizmo | how do I completely disable "tapping" in the synapctics touchpad drivers? |
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| 16:41.07 | Curalton | tap notap |
| 16:41.23 | Curalton | or, .. some other binary than tap |
| 16:41.34 | Curalton | also iirc ppbuttonsd has a corresponding option |
| 17:26.36 | Corsac | is there anybody using ipv6 here ? |
| 17:27.07 | SimonRaven | i was for a while |
| 17:38.18 | pahartik | Corsac: I would like to try, but I do not think local ISPs offer that |
| 17:39.20 | Corsac | try tunnel brokers |
| 17:41.48 | pahartik | Corsac: are there any in Finland? (I just do not like idea of having other end of tunnel on other edge of internet) |
| 17:43.17 | Corsac | i don't know |
| 17:43.19 | Corsac | i guess |
| 17:44.07 | Corsac | pahartik: https://noc.sixxs.net/pops/ |
| 17:47.17 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: some dudes at local chan I use have had finnish tunnels |
| 17:52.06 | Q-FUNK | does ipv6 actually give end-to-end connectivity? |
| 17:53.51 | Q-FUNK | in asense, it would be nice to be able to have e.g. dcc and ftp from/to any workstation here |
| 17:55.42 | Bor_Ed | the dude on local chan has used ipv6 tunnel to give virtual host ssh shells |
| 17:58.17 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: you get five public IPv4 addresses from Sonera anyway, but you would like to use IPv6 provided by third party as you could have static addresses that way? |
| 17:58.54 | Q-FUNK | I would like static addresses within my intranet, but hosts acessible form the outside as well. |
| 18:00.05 | SimonRaven | that's where the link-local addresses come in |
| 18:01.33 | Q-FUNK | although i have a feeling that Sonera prevents incoming connections, since their ULA states that we cannot run servers. |
| 18:01.45 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: most hosts of my LAN have two IP addresses, 80.221.142.206/23 and 192.168.1.0/24 |
| 18:02.16 | Q-FUNK | i thought about trying that too |
| 18:02.29 | Bor_Ed | elisa blocks tcp and udp 25... I've been thinking of getting a tunnel because of that |
| 18:02.44 | Q-FUNK | all of tcp, plus udp 25? |
| 18:03.19 | Bor_Ed | tcp/udp/25 |
| 18:03.29 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: AFAIK, Sonera only blocks outgoing SMTP (it is required to go through their mail servers) |
| 18:03.35 | Bor_Ed | other ports are open, even in windoofs wormholes |
| 18:03.49 | Bor_Ed | -in |
| 18:05.13 | Q-FUNK | http://84.249.18.46 |
| 18:05.18 | Q-FUNK | do you get anything there? |
| 18:06.08 | Bor_Ed | doesn't seem to load |
| 18:07.49 | Q-FUNK | right, so i would guess they filter incoming |
| 18:08.10 | Bor_Ed | try to run in 8080 |
| 18:08.17 | Bor_Ed | it's usually open for some reason |
| 18:08.24 | Q-FUNK | 8080 is proxy |
| 18:08.28 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 18:09.38 | Q-FUNK | just added 8080 |
| 18:09.55 | Q-FUNK | any better? |
| 18:09.59 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: "lynx" got timeout, "curl" got timeout (on "http://84.249.18.46/") |
| 18:10.10 | Q-FUNK | what about with :8080 ? |
| 18:10.23 | Bor_Ed | loading 8080 |
| 18:10.26 | Bor_Ed | lessee |
| 18:10.35 | Bor_Ed | bombed |
| 18:11.31 | Q-FUNK | hm? |
| 18:11.37 | Bor_Ed | no go |
| 18:11.58 | Q-FUNK | right. i guess they indeed filter |
| 18:12.15 | Bor_Ed | I can drop an nmap scan if you wish |
| 18:12.23 | Q-FUNK | :21 |
| 18:12.59 | Bor_Ed | 'has been disabled for security reasons' |
| 18:13.06 | Bor_Ed | this end whines that |
| 18:13.25 | Q-FUNK | right. so they indeed do filter ports out. |
| 18:13.38 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: "lynx" got timeout, "curl" got timeout (on "http://84.249.18.46:8080/") |
| 18:13.56 | Bor_Ed | I have ftpd for public access here as I have ssh... |
| 18:14.06 | Bor_Ed | this end just blocks the buggr port 25 |
| 18:14.30 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: http://pahartik.iki.fi/ |
| 18:15.15 | Q-FUNK | interesting |
| 18:17.02 | Q-FUNK | Bor_Ed: are you nmap'ing ? |
| 18:17.14 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: I have not noticed any filtering... announcement of blocking outgoing SMTP was made about two weeks before it was enabled... some two years ago |
| 18:17.24 | Q-FUNK | odd |
| 18:17.59 | Bor_Ed | Q-FUNK: nope... I don't do such unless requested... privacy/cracking etc thingies you know :) |
| 18:18.08 | Q-FUNK | odd |
| 18:18.13 | Q-FUNK | my host is suddenly super slow |
| 18:18.19 | Q-FUNK | or well, the router is |
| 18:18.27 | Bor_Ed | but if you want it, just say the word |
| 18:18.30 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: what is one expected to see at "http://84.249.18.46/"? |
| 18:18.47 | Q-FUNK | pahartik: smokeping's default index |
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| 18:32.34 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: http://www.sonera.fi/artikkeli/0,3842,l-fi_h-11184_a-262310,00.html#etatyo |
| 18:34.30 | Bor_Ed | what the... the domain hasn't moved yet under telia.se :o |
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| 18:40.06 | Q-FUNK | scaning myself from fishpool, i get ports i'm not even running. |
| 18:42.11 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: how many public IPs are you using? |
| 18:43.30 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: is ADSL device acting as bridge? are your workstations behind NAT? |
| 18:45.31 | Q-FUNK | pure bridge mode. workstations are behind nat, but not the apache2 on the bridge host. |
| 18:45.35 | Q-FUNK | one ip |
| 18:53.22 | Bor_Ed | pahartik, Q-FUNK, the service was xs26 and had servers in esbo among other locations... been down for a month or so though |
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| 19:09.03 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: are you sure your own netfilter rules or apache itself are not blocking connections from outside? |
| 19:11.28 | Q-FUNK | DOH |
| 19:11.30 | Q-FUNK | yes |
| 19:11.37 | Q-FUNK | netfilter |
| 19:11.39 | Q-FUNK | works now |
| 19:12.01 | Q-FUNK | at the normal :80 |
| 19:12.39 | Q-FUNK | http://84.249.18.46/ |
| 19:13.24 | Bor_Ed | works |
| 19:13.55 | Bor_Ed | surina connectivity? didn't know they have such thing :P |
| 19:14.40 | Q-FUNK | hm? |
| 19:15.02 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: damn that |
| 19:15.07 | Bor_Ed | that company doesn't have too good reputation outside kehä-III |
| 19:21.11 | Q-FUNK | firggin sonera: they sent a change of service notification 2 days ago. they say that they must send one according to soem viestintävirasto regulation. |
| 19:21.49 | Q-FUNK | then they give a generic link to their internet service's default page, instead of pointing to a tiedote that says exactly what changed |
| 19:21.54 | Bor_Ed | yup, port 25 blocking... it was recommendation though, not some directive |
| 19:22.34 | Bor_Ed | anyway, every .fi isp got screwed with that |
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| 19:30.55 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: are you referring to some specific document? |
| 19:34.31 | Q-FUNK | Internet- ja laajakaistaliittymien palvelukuvaukset muuttuvat - apr.28 |
| 19:35.45 | Q-FUNK | a notice sent to all cusotmers on that date |
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| 19:35.54 | Q-FUNK | changes taking effect on june 1st. |
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| 20:11.34 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: I suppose I will see it someday on paper then |
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