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00:31.49kreuterevening, #debianppc.  anybody here using a powerbook 5,8?
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10:06.28johillhrm now this is odd
10:06.41johillnow that I actually power down the phy, wol doesn't work, though the code is bypassed
10:15.08johilloh well
10:18.41Corsacdoes someone use rhythmbox or quodlibet on unstable/ppc ?
10:19.03johillI use rhythmbox
10:19.11Corsacdoes it work currently ?
10:19.16johillyes
10:19.17Corsaci have gstreamer problems i guess
10:19.28Corsacno sound from quodlibet or rhythmbox
10:19.42Corsac(but in gstreamer-properties when I test i get the sound)
10:19.55johillhm
10:19.57johilldunno
10:20.00johillI'm using snd-aoa too though
10:20.42Corsacwell i have sound, my soundcard works well from vlc or xfmedia
10:20.46johillok
10:20.59Corsacso i don't know :/
10:21.15johillthough actually, alsa configuration is different for snd-aoa and snd-powermac
10:21.24johillah but vlc also uses alsa right?
10:22.02johillwow, I currenlty have 9 own patches in my kernel
10:22.03Corsacyes
10:23.28johillyou could try running some gst tests
10:23.54johilland rhythmbox in gst debug mode though I forgot how
10:24.21Corsacdo you have gtstreamer 0.8 or 0.10 ?
10:24.22Corsac(or both ?)
10:24.37Corsacit seems that gst-properties are in 0.8
10:24.48Corsacand rhythmbox/quodlibet seem to use0.10
10:25.11johill0.10
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10:25.20Corsaconly ?
10:25.32johillno
10:25.38Corsac(here gnome-media depends on 0.8)
10:25.41johillyeah
10:25.46johillbut rhythmbox uses 0.10
10:26.17Corsaci want my sound back :(
10:27.10johillactually, my system doesn't seem to be quite up-to-date
10:27.13johillbut gstreamer is
10:27.26Corsaci think there was a gstreamer update recently
10:27.35johillI'm only getting gstreamer0.10-tools
10:27.39johillas new
10:32.48Corsachmh, rhythmbox -d doesnt give anything
10:32.55johillno, some env variable
10:33.02johillGST_DEBUG=all or something
10:33.04Corsacit thinks the music is playing correctly I guess
10:33.50johillnow, the other question is why the gnome mixer applet doesn't like snd-aoa
10:37.19johillhah, I hate smtp servers that require rDNS even over IPv6 but don't even have it themselves
10:38.04Corsacgimme my sound back !
10:38.57johillheh it just stopped working for me too
10:39.26johilllooks like the new libasound2 is to blame
10:39.35johillor at least gstreamer/asound interaction
10:43.01Corsacyeah i'm reinstalling gstreamer0.8 to test
10:43.45johillI'm trying to downgrade libasound
10:43.49johillgive me a minute
10:45.44johillheh, g-p-m all the suddne got new icons
10:46.30Corsachmh, no audiotestsrc in gstreamer0.8 ?!
10:46.36johillheh
10:48.09johillback later, lunch
10:48.18Corsac:)
10:48.30johillwill then test the older alsa libs
10:54.22Corsac** (gst-launch-0.10:28581): CRITICAL **: gst_ring_buffer_open_device: assertion `GST_IS_RING_BUFFER (buf)' failed
10:54.25CorsacERROR: Pipeline doesn't want to pause.
10:54.28CorsacSetting pipeline to NULL ...
10:54.30CorsacFREEING pipeline ...
10:54.32Corsac(gst-launch-0.10:28581): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_object_unref: assertion `GST_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
10:54.45Corsac(can't test oss, there is no more oss in my kernel :p)
10:56.12Corsacand esound seems to use oss :)
10:56.20Corsac(at least it wants a /dev/dsp)
11:16.21johillback
11:16.29johillI got those errors too
11:16.53johillsame with old libasound2
11:18.40Corsaci only have alsa running here, so can't test :/
11:19.11johillok works when downgrading libgstreamer
11:19.20Corsacto testing one ?
11:19.21johilldpkg - warning: downgrading libgstreamer0.10-0 from 0.10.5-1 to 0.10.4-1.
11:19.47johillI still had the package :)
11:19.50Corsacok
11:19.57johillif you need it let me know
11:22.00Corsacyeah, it would be nice :)
11:22.12Corsacmaybe endianess problems ?
11:22.28johillhttp://johannes.sipsolutions.net/files/libgstreamer0.10-0_0.10.4-1_powerpc.deb
11:22.28Corsacfakesink works correctly
11:22.36johillstill uploading
11:22.42Corsacok, let me know :)
11:22.49johilldone
11:23.31johillI'll report a bug
11:23.41Corsacok
11:23.42johillno wait, my mail setup is broken
11:23.44johill:/
11:23.48Corsacdo you want me to do it ?
11:23.49johillcan you do instead?
11:24.06johillI always have to work around my mail setup currently which is awkward
11:25.07CorsacUnpacking replacement libgstreamer0.10-0 ...
11:25.08Corsacdpkg-deb (subprocess): short read in buffer_copy (failed to write to pipe in copy)
11:25.12Corsac?!
11:25.36johilleh
11:25.39johillsha1sum of the file?
11:25.50johillshould be 2b458070dfb1ce30b6f67324dd8fe82961ab5b20
11:25.52Corsacc56f935c1a18b3d75ffdcee75589fa680cf3bbc8  libgstreamer0.10-0_0.10.4-1_powerpc.deb
11:25.55Corsacmeh
11:25.56Corsacredownloading
11:26.02johillyeah
11:26.08Corsac611,336 (597K) ?
11:26.27johilluh
11:26.33johillmy uplaoded file is broken too
11:26.36johilllet me re-upload
11:26.37Corsacmeh
11:26.59johillah no bugger
11:27.07johillI sha1sumed the wrong file
11:27.21johillshould be 787fa2c410c0a2301778ff98121a3d4c3be7bb5e
11:27.29johillreuploading anyway
11:27.40johill611336 bytes
11:27.48Corsacok :)
11:27.49johilldone re-uploading
11:27.56johillfile on server is fine
11:29.06johillheh you need to downgrade gstreamer-tools too
11:29.35johillgstreamer0.10-tools_0.10.4-1_powerpc.deb, same dir
11:29.48johill0cbb2ee754514384350ef4d078465803d40d9b63
11:30.29Corsacthanks
11:31.03Corsacdone
11:32.43johillI'll leave them up in case someone else comes along
11:32.47johillfeel free to give out the URLs
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12:04.24jcmhi, searching for help about xorg.conf and keyboads on PIsmo/unstable. Used to work with XFree86. I have no more kbd input in gnome.
12:08.24risc-mhm
12:08.32risc-johill: u there?
12:08.39johillyeah sort of ;)
12:10.11risc-aha
12:10.15risc-got something for you
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12:10.29risc-the wireless network on my school tends to fail
12:10.42risc-can I dcc you a log?
12:10.53johillI don't think dcc works here
12:10.58johilljust put it up on pastebin or something
12:11.11johillmaybe it now kicks you out because you are setting the flag ;)
12:11.24risc-I don't think so
12:11.37risc-that network is always weird
12:11.43johillat my uni too
12:11.45risc-allthough with osx it works slow but ok it works
12:11.55johillI need to do it all manually and even set the AP address, then it sometimes works
12:11.59risc-sometimes i get disconnected if my bandwidth is too high
12:12.07johilllol
12:12.08risc-but i reconnect and it works
12:12.13risc-but in linux... it's something else
12:12.14risc-one sec
12:12.44risc-http://users.pandora.be/wout/wlhogent
12:14.44johillit's associated though it seems to keep doing that
12:15.32risc-the bahaviour i have in OSX sometimes is that it disconnects me from time to time
12:15.38risc-so it might be that
12:20.02johillyeah and it seems to reassociate
12:20.03johillso I dunno what hsould be wrong
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13:06.02risc-mgm
13:06.03risc-mhm
13:34.43risc-johill: what app do you use for programming?
13:49.41pahartikrisc-: probably "GNU C compiler" and "GNU Emacs"...
13:50.05CorsacEmacs is an os
13:50.32simonrvnoh leave the emacs freak be, it's just as valid as vim
13:50.36simonrvn:)
13:52.47pahartikCorsac: you are running Debian GNU/Emacs/Linux operating system too?
13:53.57Corsacnop, don't use emacs :)
13:54.29simonrvnhehe
13:54.35risc-never used emacs, only nano & vi/vim
13:54.36simonrvn@pahartik++
13:55.55Corsac@karma pahartik
13:55.56ravenbirdpahartik has karma of 1
13:56.14Corsacblootbot ?
13:56.24simonrvnyup
13:56.37Corsac(does someone know a karma script using tcl (beside karma13.tcl which needs a "fastbase sql" which i don't know about) ?
13:56.57simonrvngoogle?
13:57.00simonrvn;p
13:57.25Corsacgoogle doesnt know :)
14:00.43simonrvn:|
14:01.15pahartikCorsac: maybe AltaVista knows?
14:01.40simonrvnor yahoo, or askjeeves, or *shudder* msn, or ...
14:15.24Corsac@[karma]++
14:15.29Corsactoo bad :(
14:25.01risc-is it normal java on linuxppc is slower than on osx?
14:52.32johillrisc-: joe
14:57.05Corsacjohill: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=365724
14:57.37johillheh ok
14:57.42johillthanks for letting me know
14:57.46johillI'm off again :)
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16:48.32onidhi, what filesystem need i choose for a  Apple_UNIX_SVR2 partition?
16:49.31Bor_Edext2 or ext3 will do fine
16:50.32onidaham. so that means that  Apple_UNIX_SVR2 is not the actual FS but the partition type or something like that, correct?
16:50.50Bor_Edyup
16:51.06onidso how can one find out the FS of a certain partition?
16:51.38Bor_Edmac-fdisk -l /dev/hda for example should tell something
16:53.19onidit said the same  Apple_UNIX_SVR2 one but then i looked into /etc/fstab and found out it's an ext3 one
16:53.33onidgreat
16:54.37onidthat still does not explain why i get a kernel panic about not syncing and VFS: Unable to mount root fs
16:54.39onid:s
16:54.53onidhttp://venus.cslab.aueb.gr/~georgie/pub/kpanic.jpg
16:54.55Bor_Edprobably not
16:55.22Bor_Edyou have initrd loaded?
16:55.27onidBor_Ed my other thought from my readings was something that had to do with initrd
16:55.29onidaham!
16:55.33onidwhat's that?
16:55.57Bor_Eddepends on the bootloader you're using
16:56.02onidyaboot it isi
16:56.24Bor_Edyou'll need to add initrd=/path/to/initrd.gz to it and reinstall the binary
16:56.30Bor_Edto its conf that is...
16:56.49onidhmmmm
16:57.21onidin order to get a initrd.gz file what need to be enabled in menuconfig?
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17:05.47risc-onid: you need to create the initrd.img file yourself using yaird
17:05.47onidhmmmm
17:05.48onidfrom what i read that's a RAM disk image. coorect?
17:05.50risc-yes
17:05.51onidwhy is that needed in oderd to boot?
17:06.06risc-contains modules
17:06.09risc-afaik
17:06.35risc-read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/initrd.txt
17:07.01onidbut i choose the filesystems not as modules
17:10.53Bor_Edself compiled kernels shouldn't need initrd, debian ships images just to get the linux up on unsupported hardware and filesystems
17:11.20onidmy point of view as well Bor_Ed
17:11.53onidbut why do i get that error??? http://venus.cslab.aueb.gr/~georgie/pub/kpanic.jpg
17:12.05Bor_EdI used to have kernel here without initrd... and then bombed the HD, thanks to braindead apple installer
17:12.19Bor_Edthat error could come if you don't have the root filesystem supported on kernel
17:12.25Bor_Edit can't be built as module
17:13.30onidi know that and i'v got CONFIG_EXT3_FS=y
17:13.47Bor_Edhmm, no idea then
17:14.18onidis there any chance it could be a devfs / udev thing?
17:14.38Bor_Eddunno, I don't use such
17:14.58onidbut then again the iBook i'm working on seems to have a static /dev
17:15.00onid;/
17:16.45pahartikonid: type of partition tables used (when booting from block device with partition table) needs to be supported by kernel
17:17.47pahartikonid: type of device booting is attempted from needs to be supported by kernel
17:18.21pahartikonid: bus that device is connected to needs to be supported by kernel
17:18.22onidpahartik i have compiled with y all Partition Types just in case
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17:22.34risc-onid: are you sure your ata stuf is in it?
17:22.54onidrisc- what do u mean?
17:23.12onidchipsets suport?
17:23.41risc-CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_PMAC ?
17:23.49risc-IDE support I mean
17:24.39onidAHA!
17:24.45onidthat was not set!
17:24.49onidbingo! (i hope)
17:25.11risc-I'm out of suggestions if that's not going to work
17:25.17onidhahaha
17:35.59risc-did it work?
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17:41.48onidrebooting now risc-
17:43.38onidsame error risc-
17:43.48oniddamn iBook
17:43.51onid:'(
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17:45.40pahartikonid: my iBook G4 is running my custom "linux-image-2.6.16" without "initrd image" just fine...
17:46.52onidpahartik do yo uohave ur .config handy?
17:48.33pahartikonid: http://pahartik.iki.fi/~pahartik/config-2.6.16-kiara-pahartik
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22:13.54Corsacok, now rhythmbox segfaults, due to (it seems) something in gstreamer/altivec
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