| 00:01.57 | mada | yeah, sorry |
| 00:01.59 | mada | i was afk |
| 00:02.17 | mada | testing-etch ... because i need the bcm43xx wifi drivers and they are only in testing branch |
| 00:04.55 | mada | simonrvn: ? |
| 00:09.39 | simonrvn | yeh, well it's also got issues, as you saw :) |
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| 00:14.09 | mada | well, i haven't even made it that far ... |
| 00:14.29 | mada | i had to put in the repositories by hand and i am now apt-get installing an entire system |
| 00:14.35 | mada | (basically) |
| 00:15.27 | mada | i booted only a base system, didn't even have apmd installed |
| 00:16.23 | mada | i am in the process of the wonderful apt-get install gnome-core .... once that is done i will get an xserver, etc. |
| 00:16.53 | mada | anything else that is concidered a necessity for laptop installs? .... i've never had to do a package by package install before |
| 00:17.23 | Adrian | mouseemu? |
| 00:21.15 | simonrvn | run aptitude once you've installed it. it should fetch what you need, and you can add stuff while in it |
| 00:22.34 | mada | aptitude ... rumor has it that program is a pain in the ass to navigate |
| 00:22.39 | mada | any tips? |
| 00:23.46 | simonrvn | not really. hit enter a lot on the texts |
| 00:24.09 | simonrvn | oh, and [,] to expand/contract |
| 00:24.37 | mada | ok, cool .. and that will grab everything i need? |
| 00:26.16 | simonrvn | ordinarily it should - a partially aborted install i'm not sure how it'll behave, but due to the deps it should by itself |
| 00:27.10 | mada | ok, cool .... i didn't really abort the install, i just kinda ignored that it couldn't successfully configure apt |
| 00:27.44 | simonrvn | ok. you added testing security too? |
| 00:28.33 | simonrvn | @testing security |
| 00:28.34 | ravenbird | Don't use http://security.debian.org/dists/testing/updates/, but see http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/ ;) |
| 00:28.40 | mada | no, that one worked in the config so i didn't have to ... but http.us.debian.org wouldn't work in the installer, but when i edited it by hand it acts like very other install i have ever done does |
| 00:28.47 | simonrvn | hmm i wonder if that's the correct one |
| 00:28.53 | simonrvn | sec |
| 00:28.58 | Adrian | all i need to get working on my ibook now is the airport extreme :\ |
| 00:28.59 | mada | k |
| 00:29.43 | simonrvn | @testing security |
| 00:29.43 | ravenbird | Put "deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in testing. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade". |
| 00:29.46 | simonrvn | ^^ |
| 00:30.05 | mada | Adrian: apt-get install bcm43xx-modules-2.6.15-1-powerpc |
| 00:30.41 | simonrvn | might want the source if it's an older kernel. i *think* that drivee got added to recent 2.6 |
| 00:30.45 | simonrvn | driver* |
| 00:30.46 | mada | why stable/updates if i run testing? |
| 00:31.00 | simonrvn | eh, that's a typo |
| 00:31.05 | mada | rgr |
| 00:31.27 | mada | i think i have the right one ... once it is done with the gnome apt-get install ... i will check it |
| 00:31.51 | mada | and does the command aptitude upgrade and aptitude update work? or was that meant to be apt-get? |
| 00:31.58 | simonrvn | just do s,stable,testing, |
| 00:32.05 | simonrvn | no, that's correct |
| 00:32.11 | mada | interesting |
| 00:32.13 | mada | never heard of it |
| 00:32.21 | mada | what's the difference? |
| 00:33.13 | simonrvn | man aptitude ;) |
| 00:33.17 | mada | rgr |
| 00:33.31 | mada | gg man |
| 00:34.48 | Adrian | i am on unstable and there are no bcm43xx modules when i search apt-cache |
| 00:37.28 | mada | how do you change betweeen ttys on an iBook? |
| 00:37.55 | mada | Adrian: i don't see how that is possible ... i am on testing and i have it |
| 00:38.24 | mada | check your /etc/apt/sources.list make sure it says contrib |
| 00:38.33 | Adrian | oh that will be it |
| 00:38.38 | Adrian | thanks |
| 00:38.49 | mada | yeah, should have mentioned that part ... no prob |
| 00:39.04 | mada | its still a beta driver, but i have read all over forums that it functions |
| 00:39.15 | Adrian | i only installed this yesterday |
| 00:39.20 | mada | Adrian: how do i change between ttys on an iBook? |
| 00:39.28 | Adrian | mada: i have no idea |
| 00:39.31 | mada | i am just installing now, finally ditching os x |
| 00:39.35 | mada | blargh .... |
| 00:39.48 | mada | i did it by accident, now i can't get back to tty1 |
| 00:39.50 | Adrian | yeah os x was starting to piss me off |
| 00:40.50 | Curalton | ctrl alt fn f1 iirc |
| 00:40.56 | mada | me too, i am a computer science major and i couldn't develop software on it worth a shit .... my laptop was rendered useless and i was always doing work on my debian desktop and now that semester is over i have the time to sort out a powerpc debian installation |
| 00:41.04 | mada | Curalton: thanks a million |
| 00:41.14 | Curalton | the F1-12 keys are special keys by default |
| 00:41.31 | Curalton | though in my current sid they are normal f-keys again |
| 00:41.36 | mada | Curalton: rgr, i should have known that ... just couldn't figure out the key combo to switch |
| 00:41.45 | mada | interesting |
| 00:41.52 | Curalton | you can change that with pbbuttonsd |
| 00:42.00 | Curalton | running out of fingers i guess ;) |
| 00:42.15 | mada | naw, i don't really mind i guess ... just didn't know |
| 00:42.17 | mada | lol, yeah |
| 00:42.45 | mada | guh ... the faster the internet gets the slower it gets |
| 00:43.02 | mada | i'm too impatient because i know how fast these downloads could be going |
| 00:57.04 | Adrian | mada: is there a howto somewhere on how to set this up? |
| 00:58.10 | Curalton | ibook g4 airport extreme setup? |
| 00:58.16 | Adrian | yeah |
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| 01:06.06 | Curalton | hm, hate to throw the word in again, but: google |
| 01:06.24 | Curalton | probably compile stuff yourself etc. |
| 01:10.57 | mada | uhmmm... i think in the readme there is something to help |
| 01:11.12 | mada | i don't know, just read about it in a forum .... haven't done it myself yet |
| 01:12.59 | Curalton | made it to work with someones G4 last december, must have been one of the first releases |
| 01:13.09 | mada | sweet |
| 01:13.22 | Curalton | was quite buggy, catching a essid seems POM-dependent at least |
| 01:13.23 | mada | yeah, debian testing/unstable has a module for it now |
| 01:13.32 | Curalton | good i have a trusty G3 ibook |
| 01:13.48 | mada | nice |
| 01:14.09 | mada | are the airport and airport extreme cards interchangable in the laptops? |
| 01:14.14 | Curalton | not at all |
| 01:14.22 | mada | shit |
| 01:14.25 | Curalton | airport is pcmcia, AE something like mini pci |
| 01:14.39 | mada | yeah ... sounds about right |
| 01:15.10 | mada | oh well, as long as i can get it to function on some level i will be fine |
| 01:15.42 | Curalton | i guess it is useable by now |
| 01:15.57 | Curalton | might need openvpn or ssh for encryption |
| 01:16.27 | mada | yeah, don't doubt it |
| 01:16.58 | mada | heh .. all that download time and like 5-10 minutes of unpacking and setup |
| 01:17.16 | Curalton | anyhow, late over here. ill catch some sleep |
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| 01:17.33 | mada | kk, bye Curalton |
| 01:17.46 | Curalton | blessings of $GEEK_GODDESS upon ye (is there one yet?) |
| 01:18.13 | Curalton | athene, id wager |
| 01:19.05 | mada | i'm game |
| 01:19.24 | Curalton | heh |
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| 01:48.29 | mada | anyone have any success trying to play starcraft or war3 on their powerpc linux machine? |
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| 04:57.49 | mada | hod exactly would i go about right clicking on an iBook annnnd what is the wifi configuration command? |
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| 06:08.57 | odat | hi everyone |
| 06:09.04 | odat | anyone familiar with bootx? |
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| 06:16.10 | odat | anyone? |
| 06:24.29 | odat | hello? |
| 06:30.37 | Adrian | hello |
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| 09:32.36 | Corsac | johill: \o/ |
| 09:32.40 | johill | :) |
| 09:32.44 | Corsac | how are you ? |
| 09:32.55 | johill | fine thanks, you? |
| 09:33.08 | Corsac | fine |
| 09:34.10 | johill | trying to patch exim right now... heh |
| 09:36.14 | johill | it has a bunch of negative lists. how annoying |
| 09:36.19 | johill | positive lists are much easier to edit |
| 09:37.20 | Corsac | gn ? |
| 09:37.50 | johill | exim has a control acl thingie where you can say to not make local fixups |
| 09:37.59 | johill | control=suppress_local_fixups or something like that |
| 09:38.15 | johill | thing is |
| 09:38.18 | johill | you can't ever use it |
| 09:38.23 | johill | on non-smtp transactions |
| 09:38.29 | johill | (locally submitted mail) |
| 09:38.32 | johill | so that sucks |
| 09:38.33 | johill | :) |
| 09:38.57 | johill | so I'm trying to add support for an acl to exim that is run before anything else on local submissions |
| 09:39.22 | Corsac | ok |
| 09:39.36 | Corsac | (gngnmng, why on earth doesn't evolution manage to verify -that- signature) |
| 09:39.42 | johill | huh? |
| 09:39.52 | johill | gpg :) |
| 09:40.02 | Corsac | yes |
| 09:40.17 | Corsac | problems with agent I guess |
| 09:40.22 | Corsac | i use seahorse-daemon currently |
| 09:40.37 | Corsac | but it seems that nobody can connect to the daemon |
| 09:40.40 | johill | heh |
| 09:40.42 | Corsac | don't really know why |
| 09:41.07 | johill | no idea, I don't use that |
| 09:42.36 | johill | gotta go, have a nice sunday :) |
| 09:42.49 | Corsac | you to :) |
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| 14:58.46 | MasterTom | Hello people. |
| 14:59.00 | MasterTom | what html editors are there for Linux? |
| 15:01.01 | Oryn | mozilla-composer |
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| 15:01.23 | Corsac | nvu, bluefish, amaya, vim |
| 15:17.34 | _rene_ | and quanta |
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