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| 13:31.52 | cfh | Hi all, what can i do to use suspend to disk with pbbuttonsd on my powerbook 12' ? if i try to lanch :echo "disk" >/sys/power/state it works good but if i try to use onBattery_KeyAction = suspend-to-disk of pbbuttons it doesnt work |
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| 13:47.31 | marculix | I've built 2.6.16.18 (using make oldconfig from my 2.6.3) and I added GARMIN support. I've got a kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs |
| 13:47.55 | marculix | someone successfully booted a 2.6.16.18 on his PowerBook G4 1Ghz? |
| 13:48.13 | marculix | I currently try to find out what the problem is... |
| 13:48.58 | Corsac | did you thought to pass --initrd option at make-kpkg ? |
| 13:49.38 | marculix | It's a custom built kernel |
| 13:49.45 | marculix | not the debian way |
| 13:51.10 | marculix | hm, thx btw |
| 13:51.14 | marculix | but I have ramdisk support |
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| 17:48.01 | Q-FUNK | could anybody explain to me the new debian ppc kernel nomenclature? |
| 17:52.32 | Q-FUNK | *tilt* |
| 17:53.04 | johill | Q-FUNK: as in? |
| 17:54.00 | Q-FUNK | linux-image-apus, linux-image-powerpc, linux-image-powerpc-miboot, linux-image-powerpc-smp, linux-image-powerpc64, linux-image-vserver-powerpc |
| 17:54.22 | Q-FUNK | some of those are obvious, others are not |
| 17:54.56 | chrisa | The only one not obvious to me is apus |
| 17:54.58 | Bor_Ed | they all seem to have a fit |
| 17:55.05 | Bor_Ed | apus == amiga power up system |
| 17:55.06 | chrisa | and I use the "If I don't know what it is, don't use it" approach |
| 17:55.12 | Bor_Ed | ppc upgrade for good ol' miggy |
| 17:55.28 | Q-FUNK | what's with the vserver variants, for instance? |
| 17:55.49 | Bor_Ed | virtual servers... has virtualization built in I'd guess |
| 17:56.18 | Q-FUNK | these packages depserately need a non-geek compliant description. |
| 17:56.25 | Bor_Ed | they don't have? |
| 17:56.51 | Q-FUNK | linux-image-vserver-powerpc: Linux kernel image on powerpc-class machines |
| 17:56.59 | Bor_Ed | noticed that one :) |
| 17:57.17 | johill | it's probably one that can run vserver instances in it :) |
| 17:57.25 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 17:57.45 | Q-FUNK | the long description should clearly explain what is the target hardware. |
| 17:58.07 | Bor_Ed | -miboot probably is oldworld standalone install |
| 17:58.18 | Bor_Ed | s/install/boot/g |
| 17:58.40 | Bor_Ed | thanks apt |
| 17:58.47 | Q-FUNK | that's a geek package name. |
| 17:58.55 | Bor_Ed | naa |
| 17:59.36 | Q-FUNK | we at least need the description to tell "This Linux kernel package is for early Power Macs with a 603 or 604 CPU." |
| 17:59.50 | Bor_Ed | it'll run on g3 too |
| 18:00.01 | Bor_Ed | as well as on g4 dual upgrades |
| 18:00.19 | Q-FUNK | well, no. package names would sugges the generic -powerpc for that |
| 18:00.52 | Bor_Ed | for example 9600 with dual g4 upgrade cpu still requires the -miboot or heavy hacking with quik |
| 18:01.14 | Q-FUNK | yup, but the miboot package would be unnecessary for newworld |
| 18:01.21 | Bor_Ed | true |
| 18:01.32 | Bor_Ed | and -powerpc64 for any ppc32 install |
| 18:03.23 | cfh | is there someone able to use pbbuttons and suspend to disk on powerbook 12? |
| 18:04.17 | Q-FUNK | linux-image-2.6.16-2-powerpc_2.6.16-14_powerpc.deb |
| 18:04.18 | Q-FUNK | linux-image-2.6.16-2-powerpc64_2.6.16-14_powerpc.deb |
| 18:04.18 | Q-FUNK | linux-image-2.6.16-2-powerpc-miboot_2.6.16-14_powerpc.deb |
| 18:04.18 | Q-FUNK | linux-image-2.6.16-2-powerpc-smp_2.6.16-14_powerpc.deb |
| 18:04.18 | Q-FUNK | linux-image-2.6.16-2-vserver-powerpc_2.6.16-14_powerpc.deb |
| 18:04.18 | Q-FUNK | linux-image-2.6.16-2-vserver-powerpc64_2.6.16-14_powerpc.deb |
| 18:05.11 | Bor_Ed | -powerpc probably is the save choice to pick |
| 18:05.22 | Q-FUNK | yup |
| 18:06.12 | Q-FUNK | 'mc' rocks |
| 18:06.29 | Bor_Ed | mc as in midnite commander? |
| 18:06.36 | Q-FUNK | yup |
| 18:06.46 | Bor_Ed | haven't used it since dos 5.2 or so |
| 18:06.52 | Q-FUNK | except that its utf-8 support is broken |
| 18:09.00 | simonrvn | it actually has support now. which is cool in of itself |
| 18:48.12 | chrisa | I should look into driver support for the wireless in the newer macbooks |
| 18:48.18 | chrisa | The cost of the system is appealing |
| 18:51.21 | Corsac | wireless on the macbooks is atheros |
| 18:51.50 | Curalton | macbooks are off topic here :P |
| 18:52.51 | Bor_Ed | #debian handles peecee gear |
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| 18:54.49 | chrisa | Indeed, it's not ppc. But there's probably some apple 'charm' in those buggers that you'd need ppc experience with |
| 18:55.11 | Bor_Ed | but under the hood they are peecees, unfortunately |
| 18:55.37 | Bor_Ed | there was apple charm on m68k macs too... |
| 18:55.50 | chrisa | My first gen g4 has taken quite a beating, still debating whether to replace it or not |
| 18:57.47 | Corsac | chrisa: well there is no openfirwmare and no ppc |
| 18:58.01 | Curalton | the new macbooks have about 2x sized batteries compared to the g4 ibooks, speaks for ppc |
| 18:58.04 | Bor_Ed | EFI is more or less OF port to peecees |
| 18:58.40 | chrisa | Curalton: Do you mean in capacity or physical size? |
| 18:58.59 | chrisa | hmm come to think of it, has apple completely discontinued ppc laptops now then? |
| 18:59.06 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 18:59.09 | Curalton | physical size foremost, haven't checked how many w they hold |
| 19:00.31 | Curalton | bleh, searching google for such things as batterycharge and ibooks just finds the a lot of shops |
| 19:00.45 | Curalton | Google Search __________________ [x] I don't want to buy your shit! |
| 19:02.42 | Curalton | the glossy screen also keeps me from getting one |
| 19:03.34 | chrisa | I'm somewhat torn on the glossy screen |
| 19:03.43 | Curalton | "55-watt-hour lithium-polymer battery" |
| 19:03.52 | chrisa | On one hand, I can't see anything on my ibook if natural light is present (ie: outdoors) |
| 19:04.32 | Curalton | storelights were enough to show me that these screens are a cheap marketing gag |
| 19:04.42 | Curalton | look nice and shiny from afar, thats all |
| 19:04.50 | johill | probably nice for watching movies in bed |
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| 19:04.54 | johill | but aside from that... :) |
| 19:04.57 | Curalton | yeh |
| 19:05.21 | chrisa | Quite a glare? |
| 19:07.16 | chrisa | Another drawback is that the macbooks have a shoddier video chipset than my 3 year old ibook |
| 19:07.27 | Curalton | i hope apple back off from these screens, then i might get one after this ibook G3 is worn out |
| 19:09.18 | Curalton | backs* |
| 19:10.05 | chrisa | Unfortunately, it seems like a lot of companies are using the intel chipset for the video in their smaller models (12-13") |
| 19:10.15 | chrisa | and the pro models are 15", too big for me |
| 19:10.45 | johill | I think that might actually hurt apple in the long run |
| 19:10.58 | johill | all the cheapo things have these 'cool' glare screens now... |
| 19:11.11 | chrisa | I've still yet to see the screen in person |
| 19:11.14 | chrisa | Is it that annoying? |
| 19:11.37 | Curalton | Matte display for MacBook - http://www.petitiononline.com/38djhak2/petition.html |
| 19:12.25 | johill | heh |
| 19:12.37 | johill | there must be a petition for *everything* :) |
| 19:12.38 | Curalton | yep, though probably depends how easy you can filter out a semi-mirroring display |
| 19:14.21 | johill | haha |
| 19:14.27 | johill | comments are fun too |
| 19:14.29 | johill | "i dont need a mirror, I need a mac!" |
| 19:19.21 | Corsac | well, now you can chose mat screen when bying a mbp |
| 19:23.20 | chrisa | Too bad mbps are enormous |
| 19:23.48 | Curalton | ill probably have a good lock at normal x86 subnotebooks too :/ |
| 19:23.53 | Curalton | look* even |
| 19:24.14 | chrisa | I was looking at them, problem is to get something the same size/specs as a MB I always seemed to have a cost of about +700$ |
| 19:27.25 | Curalton | then ill wait for cellphones to become more powerfull |
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