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| 07:10.05 | deadcat | simonrvn: 12:36 <@simonrvn> forgot something (need usb and adb built-in i think; adb for kbd, and usb for the ports) |
| 07:10.55 | deadcat | simonrvn: i dont know the adb built-in, and when i try to make those =y it complains that the usb mouse and kb has to be M, and the debian stock has them unset |
| 07:12.32 | simonrvn | well, AFAIK, you have the slightly older white ibook, right? those had the kbd still living on the adb |
| 07:13.03 | deadcat | simonrvn: ya. those white ones are pretty new right? (= |
| 07:13.23 | deadcat | whats adb? |
| 07:15.10 | simonrvn | within the last 3-5 years. some are newer, some older. the older ones are adb based, the newer ones are usb (i *think* the macbooks are usb, too) |
| 07:15.31 | simonrvn | apple desktop bus. a daisy-chainable serial protocol |
| 07:15.45 | deadcat | i think mine is usb though. |
| 07:18.48 | deadcat | simonrvn: ok. maybe i should enable that ADB option to yes then |
| 07:19.32 | deadcat | and my .16.18 CONFIG_ADB is not set, that must be it |
| 07:19.37 | simonrvn | likely |
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| 17:57.49 | simonrvn | Corsac: thank you for your xfce packages |
| 17:59.01 | Bor_Ed | working xfce somewhere? |
| 17:59.46 | simonrvn | deb http://xfce.corsac.net unstable main |
| 17:59.46 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:59.52 | Bor_Ed | mmmm |
| 18:00.28 | Bor_Ed | works with dist-upgrade? |
| 18:00.47 | simonrvn | works ok. just updated here |
| 18:00.59 | simonrvn | you can take stuff off hold ;) |
| 18:01.05 | Bor_Ed | nice... xfce has been broken way too long |
| 18:05.04 | Curalton | and xubuntu? |
| 18:05.59 | Bor_Ed | no idea on ubu, doesn't like to play nice on oldworld I've figured |
| 18:07.50 | Curalton | can at least rip the pgks |
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| 18:23.35 | simonrvn | re |
| 18:24.20 | Bor_Ed | what the... the about screens info tab is in finnish even though I have en_US as $LANG :o |
| 18:26.02 | simonrvn | oops |
| 18:26.55 | Bor_Ed | $LANGUAGE though has fi listed too... but shouldn't the apps respect $LANG in the first place? |
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| 18:37.54 | stealth-fone | Hello, I'm hoping someone could please offer some advice. I have a PowerPC 7300/200 and I've got Debian 3.1 running with the 2.4.27-powerpc kernel. No matter what I append in quik.conf my resolution always reverts back to 640x480. |
| 18:38.17 | stealth-fone | I've used fbset and I know I can do 1024x768-60 with no problems, so I'm aty a bit of a loss. |
| 18:39.14 | Bor_Ed | the boot resolution can only be set from mockos control panels unless you find a way to hack the OF value from nvram |
| 18:40.55 | simonrvn | i think it changed, not sure |
| 18:41.47 | Bor_Ed | I still haven't had much luck even with booting this from quik |
| 18:42.38 | simonrvn | i got my beige to boot from a 53c875 card (scsi) |
| 18:42.39 | stealth-fone | Bor_Ed: Is there anyway to use fbset to resize the framebuffer before X11 starts? |
| 18:42.56 | simonrvn | AKA atto |
| 18:42.58 | Bor_Ed | sure, just add the line to for example /etc/rc.local |
| 18:43.20 | simonrvn | in OF is shows as /pci/Apple53c875Card/ |
| 18:43.35 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn: works with integrated scsi too, just not from ide |
| 18:43.42 | stealth-fone | Bor_Ed: I made a rcS.d startup script, it seems to only set the resolution of tty1. |
| 18:44.12 | Bor_Ed | ahh, fbset needs some switch to change every tty... can't recall offhand |
| 18:44.18 | simonrvn | yeh, i just didn't want to use the onboard, it being much slower than the atto card |
| 18:44.19 | stealth-fone | Sorry for bugging so much but X11 @ 640x480 is making me insane. |
| 18:44.28 | simonrvn | -a for all ttys |
| 18:44.31 | stealth-fone | lol |
| 18:44.44 | stealth-fone | Thank you both, I'll try it now. |
| 18:45.05 | Bor_Ed | hey, you can use the fbdev for X but select not to use console resolution... |
| 18:45.24 | Bor_Ed | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:45.36 | Bor_Ed | on Section "Device" |
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| 22:27.37 | Thorsten | hi everyone |
| 22:32.45 | Thorsten | Does anyone has an idea what is missing in my ibooks G4 kernel config if I get: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on uknown-block(0,0)? |
| 22:35.00 | _rene_ | your ide-controller? |
| 22:35.31 | Thorsten | I'll have a look ... |
| 22:36.03 | Thorsten | BLK_DEV_IDEDISK? |
| 22:36.24 | _rene_ | CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_PMAC |
| 22:36.47 | _rene_ | you have a powermac (well, ibook, but...) so you want powermac ide built-in ;-) |
| 22:36.56 | Thorsten | # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_PMAC is not set O:-) |
| 22:37.17 | _rene_ | and you also want CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_PMAC_ATA100FIRST=y |
| 22:38.01 | simonrvn | and might need ADB support if it's an older machine |
| 22:39.44 | Thorsten | OK, new hope :) |
| 22:40.14 | Thorsten | Are there any reference configs available? |
| 22:40.30 | simonrvn | best is lspci ;p |
| 22:41.16 | simonrvn | seriously, though, there are some, but as convenience, as as reference |
| 22:41.24 | simonrvn | not as ref* |
| 22:41.51 | _rene_ | Thorsten: my one (a bit older ;) ) is at zyklop.dyndns.org/~rene/iBook |
| 22:42.00 | _rene_ | iBook G4 12" 1.33Ghz |
| 22:42.08 | Thorsten | My current one is http://www.tgunkel.de/it/hardware/doc/ibook_g4_linux_data/ibook_g4_kernel_config2.txt but I'm sure some of the options are useless for me and others are missing. |
| 22:42.30 | Thorsten | Mine is a G4 12 1 Ghz |
| 22:42.51 | _rene_ | Thorsten: I know. I used your doc as starting point with my first iBook (which broke) ;) |
| 22:42.59 | simonrvn | what i do is research research research then build a custom one, booted from a working one (the install kernel) |
| 22:43.37 | Thorsten | _rene_, I hope not because of my config ;-) |
| 22:43.42 | _rene_ | err, wait, permissions borked |
| 22:43.44 | _rene_ | *fixing* |
| 22:44.03 | _rene_ | Thorsten: no, liquid fell and decided to flow on it.. |
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| 22:44.49 | simonrvn | i like the new x, it cleans itself up after the process keeping a lot of image info in mem is gone, instead of *staying* bloated. feature i've been waiting for for a long time |
| 22:45.00 | _rene_ | Thorsten: fixed |
| 22:45.05 | Thorsten | thx |
| 22:45.33 | Thorsten | I'm curious to see if recent kernels will support airport extreme out of the box |
| 22:45.38 | simonrvn | e.g., was looking at some dumb image-heavy site : x at 96 MB; konqueror quits, drops to 56 MB |
| 22:45.49 | _rene_ | they do, am online with it currently |
| 22:45.55 | _rene_ | it has some flaws, though, still |
| 22:46.07 | _rene_ | you might have luck and it works or you have bad luck |
| 22:46.12 | simonrvn | _rene_: what are they? (JIC someone asks and you're not here) |
| 22:46.21 | Thorsten | atm I have an older kernel with patches to support it |
| 22:46.22 | _rene_ | so if you have a usb wlan thingy I'd carry it with me anyway |
| 22:46.32 | _rene_ | ("saved" me in mexiko city ;) ) |
| 22:46.44 | _rene_ | simonrvn: "newer kernels" |
| 22:47.10 | simonrvn | no, i meant the flaws, sorry |
| 22:47.20 | _rene_ | ah |
| 22:47.28 | Thorsten | what flaws? I sometimes loose connection but I'm never sure if it the cisco vpn or the airport driver :-) |
| 22:47.39 | _rene_ | no TX rate control yet, so if your AP is far away you might have lost already |
| 22:47.53 | simonrvn | ok |
| 22:48.10 | _rene_ | sometimes you need to rmmod/modprobe after something to get it working again |
| 22:48.23 | _rene_ | (especially after sleep, or when associating once failed) |
| 22:48.35 | Thorsten | yes, I alread have a script for it ;-) |
| 22:48.48 | _rene_ | it also seems to have *some* problems with the AP detection code still |
| 22:48.59 | _rene_ | and rule #1: ifconfig eth1 up before anything else :O) |
| 22:49.14 | simonrvn | it's nice to actually have one. you can only build on that now :) |
| 22:49.15 | _rene_ | rule #2: use 11M |
| 22:49.28 | _rene_ | (thankfully default in newer ones) |
| 22:50.12 | Thorsten | Can I just issue make-kpkg kernel_image or do I have to clean previous builds befor that? |
| 22:50.29 | _rene_ | oh, and you have a bit of problems with dhcp. when the lease gets renewed you fall off |
| 22:50.45 | _rene_ | which incidentially is bad if the lease time is a few mins ;-) |
| 22:50.50 | Thorsten | thats sounds interessting |
| 22:50.58 | simonrvn | eh, that would quickly get annoying |
| 22:51.03 | _rene_ | simonrvn: exactly |
| 22:51.11 | Thorsten | That might happen for me. This is a bug in the airport driver? |
| 22:51.32 | _rene_ | Thorsten: yes, probably. I am not sure about exactly |
| 22:51.40 | _rene_ | I just noticed that at debconf6 :) |
| 22:52.06 | _rene_ | and someone told me it's the wlans' driver fault, but I didn't look close and just used wired net :) |
| 22:52.31 | Thorsten | One might expect that it shouldn't matter what's in the packages that should be transported |
| 22:52.52 | simonrvn | packets maybe? |
| 22:53.00 | Thorsten | hups |
| 22:53.05 | simonrvn | :) |
| 22:53.18 | _rene_ | as said, someone told me. I didn't verify that. I just had problems and resorted to wire. |
| 22:54.24 | _rene_ | at the moment, the only place where it works reliable for me is my own wlan at home ;-) |
| 22:56.39 | Thorsten | It works well for me at home and I need to restart it often at my university. But I also have to restart the ciso vpn client in OSX from time to time so I can't tell for sure who's to blame without further investigation |
| 22:57.28 | Thorsten | 2.6.17-rc5 just booted :-) thx! |
| 22:58.23 | simonrvn | ~kernel |
| 22:58.54 | simonrvn | hmm hopefully they got the aicXXX drive fixed, and the xfs driver fixed |
| 22:58.57 | simonrvn | r |
| 23:10.53 | Thorsten | ok, and airport works out of the box :-) |