| 00:02.12 | pahartik | deadcat: use "xmodmap" |
| 00:02.25 | deadcat | pahartik: for that button? |
| 00:03.02 | deadcat | but i dont know the key. it shows NoSymbol |
| 00:05.42 | pahartik | deadcat: maybe you want it to be "ISO_Level3_Shift"? |
| 00:05.57 | deadcat | pahartik: whats that? |
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| 00:10.02 | pahartik | deadcat: at least <Command> (keycode 115) produces "ISO_Level3_Shift" on my iBook G4 keyboard... |
| 00:10.14 | deadcat | let me try again |
| 00:10.27 | deadcat | pahartik: it used to show mod4 |
| 00:10.44 | pahartik | deadcat: using "xserver-xorg", it was different on "xserver-xfree86" |
| 00:11.12 | deadcat | maybe i havent checked in a while. |
| 00:11.18 | deadcat | since i map apple+p to screenshot |
| 00:11.29 | deadcat | i still get NoSymbol for keycode 115 |
| 00:13.15 | pahartik | deadcat: damn that |
| 00:13.53 | deadcat | pahartik: ya. damn |
| 00:15.44 | deadcat | pahartik: i have Driver kbd, CoreKeyboard, xorg pc104 us in InputDevice |
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| 00:22.43 | pahartik | deadcat: I have "xorg", "pc105", "fi"... |
| 00:23.02 | deadcat | ah |
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| 15:40.49 | nick01 | hi |
| 15:41.08 | nick01 | I tried debian etch and it didn't detect my hard disk |
| 15:41.24 | nick01 | I'm downloading the graphical installer now to try that too |
| 16:55.48 | Bor_Ed | [19:54] [IRCnet] nalle_ [nalle@hoasb-ff0fdd00-138.dhcp.inet.fi] [Nalle] has joined to IRCnet |
| 16:55.54 | Bor_Ed | whoops |
| 16:56.31 | simonrvn | heh |
| 16:56.40 | Bor_Ed | 'wrong channel' for a change |
| 16:57.05 | Bor_Ed | hey, you wouldn't happen to know by any change if beige g3 uses 3.3 or 5 volt dimms? |
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| 17:21.13 | simonrvn | beige g3 can use pc100 |
| 17:21.23 | simonrvn | oh, um, sec |
| 17:21.43 | Bor_Ed | pc100 for sure but what voltage |
| 17:21.49 | Bor_Ed | I know it's unbuffered sdram |
| 17:29.07 | simonrvn | nfc |
| 17:29.23 | Bor_Ed | ... |
| 17:29.28 | Bor_Ed | plain english? |
| 17:31.03 | simonrvn | @nfc |
| 17:31.04 | ravenbird | somebody said nfc was No Fucking Clue |
| 17:31.42 | Bor_Ed | pretty straight answer, thanks anyway :) |
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| 17:33.21 | simonrvn | i'll go check apple-history.com |
| 17:33.37 | simonrvn | oh, you knew that i got a beige g3 too? |
| 17:33.43 | Bor_Ed | doesn't mention even that much... lowendmacs gave some info |
| 17:33.52 | Bor_Ed | nope... when have you got that? |
| 17:33.53 | simonrvn | ok |
| 17:34.04 | simonrvn | a few weeks ago. 2-3 |
| 17:34.24 | Bor_Ed | got linux as standalone yet? |
| 17:35.59 | simonrvn | yup. booting off an apple53c875 card |
| 17:36.15 | Bor_Ed | ahh, not from mesh anyway? |
| 17:36.23 | simonrvn | i have the tower one, OF v2.0f1 |
| 17:36.33 | simonrvn | nope. too slow |
| 17:36.44 | simonrvn | 9-10 MB/s is too slow |
| 17:36.46 | Bor_Ed | I have the same OF... |
| 17:37.06 | Bor_Ed | ata bus gives now 3-4MB/s |
| 17:37.19 | simonrvn | i like being able to hold down opt-cmd-o-f to go to OF :) |
| 17:37.49 | Bor_Ed | yea, it's a nice compared to 7200 and such |
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| 17:38.40 | simonrvn | for sure. even the power tower pro i couldn't do that (same 1.0.5 version as the 7200+) |
| 17:38.52 | Bor_Ed | rite |
| 17:39.20 | Bor_Ed | still u-boot or openhackware on the rom slot wouldn't hurt a bit on the beige g3 :) |
| 17:39.55 | simonrvn | yeh, that's true. the cpu on it is OCed at 333, bus running at 117 or such (half cpu) |
| 17:40.24 | Bor_Ed | 117? |
| 17:40.34 | Bor_Ed | it only goes to 83 without switching smd components |
| 17:43.04 | simonrvn | uses 3.3V unbuffered 100 MHz 168-pin SDRAM |
| 17:43.13 | simonrvn | oh, the cache speed |
| 17:43.13 | Bor_Ed | danke |
| 17:43.36 | simonrvn | oh good, so i can get 256 MB modules |
| 17:43.38 | Bor_Ed | cache runs at .5 or .33 processor speed |
| 17:43.44 | Bor_Ed | it maxes out at 768 |
| 17:43.46 | simonrvn | this one at 0.5 |
| 17:43.48 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 17:44.45 | simonrvn | i have the personality card on it (called perch in OF) |
| 17:45.05 | Bor_Ed | I have one too, just the audio one |
| 17:45.18 | Bor_Ed | isn't OF tree available somewhere on /proc ? |
| 17:47.38 | simonrvn | /proc/device-tree |
| 17:48.17 | Bor_Ed | yea, didn't find the chip yet there though |
| 17:52.01 | Bor_Ed | hmm, you know g3 requires 2 sided sdram sticks btw? |
| 17:54.37 | simonrvn | yeh. for the 256 MB modules |
| 17:55.11 | Bor_Ed | for lower too, I recall 32M was max for single sided |
| 17:55.46 | simonrvn | that's not what it says on the page # http://www.lowendmac.com/ppc/g3b.shtml |
| 17:57.46 | Bor_Ed | hmm, I don't get the dual side from those specs at all |
| 18:07.33 | simonrvn | RAM: at least 32 MB (expandable to 768MB, desktop version requires low profile DIMMs), uses 3.3V unbuffered 100 MHz 168-pin SDRAM, 3 sockets accept 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, or 256MB DIMMS (some tall DIMMs may not fit desktop case) |
| 18:07.53 | simonrvn | The beige G3 supports 256 MB DIMMs, but they must be built using 128 Mb chips. DIMMs built with 256 Mb chips will work, but the memory controller will only see the first 128 Mb of each chip. Compatible 256 MB DIMMs will have 16 memory chips, eight on each side. |
| 18:08.12 | Bor_Ed | aww, missed that |
| 18:08.22 | Bor_Ed | so smaller ones work as single sided too |
| 18:09.03 | simonrvn | Although Apple technical documents state that the densest DIMM supported by the Gossamer and Artemis main logic boards is a dual-banked 128MB DIMM using a maximum of sixteen 64Mbit SDRAM devices, testing has demonstrated that max configurations of 768MB are feasible in these three-slot machines using three 256MB SDRAM DIMMs employing thirty-two CMOS 16Mx4 bit Synchronous-DRAM devices in a 1.15-inch high form factor. These DIMMs are appropriate |
| 18:09.03 | simonrvn | for use in either Desktop (DT) or MiniTower (MT) versions of the beige Macintosh G3, and are designed to support bus speeds of 66MHz, 83MHz, or 100MHz. |
| 18:09.15 | simonrvn | from http://www.macgurus.com/products/motherboards/mbppcg3mini.php |
| 18:09.58 | Bor_Ed | that's what I've been looking for for a good while, nice find :) |
| 18:13.43 | simonrvn | np. i figured the more detailed specs, the better :) |
| 18:16.11 | Bor_Ed | true |
| 18:16.29 | Bor_Ed | there's just rumours and random specs on most sites about the buggr |
| 18:17.18 | simonrvn | @beige g3 RAM is <reply> The beige G3 supports 256 MB DIMMs, but they must be built using 128 Mb chips. DIMMs built with 256 Mb chips will work, but the memory controller will only see the first 128 Mb of each chip. Compatible 256 MB DIMMs will have 16 memory chips, eight on each side. |
| 18:17.20 | ravenbird | simonrvn: okay |
| 18:17.25 | simonrvn | @beige g3 ram |
| 18:17.26 | ravenbird | The beige G3 supports 256 MB DIMMs, but they must be built using 128 Mb chips. DIMMs built with 256 Mb chips will work, but the memory controller will only see the first 128 Mb of each chip. Compatible 256 MB DIMMs will have 16 memory chips, eight on each side. |
| 18:17.47 | Bor_Ed | any way to make it plain english? :) |
| 18:21.16 | simonrvn | @beige g3 RAM 0 |
| 18:21.17 | ravenbird | sources: http://www.lowendmac.com/ppc/g3b.shtml and http://www.macgurus.com/products/motherboards/mbppcg3mini.php |
| 18:22.13 | simonrvn | @beige g3 RAM 0 is also see <beige g3 ram> <beige g3 ram 2> <beige g3 ram 3> <beige g3 ram 3a> <beige g3 ram 4> |
| 18:22.14 | ravenbird | simonrvn: okay |
| 18:22.28 | simonrvn | if you like :) |
| 18:23.40 | Bor_Ed | why thank you :) |
| 18:27.04 | simonrvn | eh, doing that will make those longer though, come to think of it |
| 18:27.23 | Bor_Ed | probably |
| 18:27.35 | Bor_Ed | just give crucial part number as a reply for the trigger? :) |
| 18:29.05 | simonrvn | http://www.macgurus.com/productpages/ram/mgram.php |
| 18:29.12 | simonrvn | near the bottom |
| 18:30.01 | Bor_Ed | something like that yea :) |
| 18:31.45 | Bor_Ed | deosn't really help me but gives the specs to local comp store |
| 18:33.00 | simonrvn | crucial.com is more expensive |
| 18:33.10 | simonrvn | like 10 usd more |
| 18:33.42 | Bor_Ed | crucial model numbers are understood in every comp store so compatible sticks from other manufacturers are easy to find too |
| 18:34.29 | simonrvn | crucial only lists the 128 MB |
| 18:34.49 | Bor_Ed | well, even that's improvement from 160 total from now |
| 18:34.59 | simonrvn | 32x4 build, 8 NS, CL2 for the 256 MB |
| 18:35.06 | simonrvn | 100 MHz speed |
| 18:35.26 | simonrvn | http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.asp?model=Power+Mac+G3+Tower+Rev%2E1+or+2+Gossamer+%28Beige%29&tabid=AM |
| 18:35.27 | Bor_Ed | that's what I've gathered so far... and 1.15" height |
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| 18:36.43 | simonrvn | @beige g3 ram 0 is also http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.asp?model=Power+Mac+G3+Tower+Rev%2E1+or+2+Gossamer+%28Beige%29&tabid=AM -- these are only the 128 MB, 256 MB here: http://www.macgurus.com/productpages/ram/mgram.php : "PC100 DIMM 168 pin 3.3v SDRAM low profile 32x4 build" |
| 18:36.44 | ravenbird | simonrvn: okay |
| 18:36.49 | nick01 | can somebody help me configure the sound ? alsaconf didn't detect it :( |
| 18:36.51 | simonrvn | @beige g3 ram 0 |
| 18:36.52 | ravenbird | sources: http://www.lowendmac.com/ppc/g3b.shtml and http://www.macgurus.com/products/motherboards/mbppcg3mini.php, or see <beige g3 ram> <beige g3 ram 2> <beige g3 ram 3> <beige g3 ram 3a> <beige g3 ram 4>, or http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.asp?model=Power+Mac+G3+Tower+Rev%2E1+or+2+Gossamer+%28Beige%29&tabid=AM -- these are only the 128 MB, 256 MB here: ... |
| 18:39.01 | Bor_Ed | gives at least direct links to some sources now... but what's the percentage of questions on chan based on ram on beige g3? :D |
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| 18:39.41 | nick01 | plase help - I have no sound |
| 18:39.53 | simonrvn | tell us what's going on first |
| 18:39.57 | nick01 | alsaconf did not detect it |
| 18:40.18 | simonrvn | Bor_Ed: hey, at least a few people will care, and it's in a database now ;) |
| 18:40.22 | nick01 | the sound card |
| 18:40.49 | simonrvn | we know it's the sound card. what's the problem: what have you done, what are the symptoms etc. |
| 18:40.51 | Bor_Ed | true that... nice to have something 'real' info on the db too and not just some newworld crap :P |
| 18:40.58 | simonrvn | ;) |
| 18:41.09 | nick01 | simonrvn, I only tried alsaconf- it couldn't detect anything |
| 18:41.32 | nick01 | simonrvn, this is an ibook g3 300 mhz clamshell |
| 18:41.37 | simonrvn | usually it's just modprobe snd-powermac |
| 18:42.00 | Bor_Ed | or snd_powermac |
| 18:43.00 | simonrvn | same driver/codec |
| 18:43.02 | nick01 | it worked how do I test it ? |
| 18:43.21 | nick01 | btw the mixer still doesn't work |
| 18:43.26 | Bor_Ed | I've never even noticed that with '-' |
| 18:43.44 | nick01 | strange thing is I think I heard a beep when gdm started |
| 18:43.49 | simonrvn | do modprobe snd-pcm-oss then do |
| 18:43.56 | simonrvn | cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp or dsp0 |
| 18:44.10 | simonrvn | you need the device files |
| 18:44.42 | simonrvn | sh /usr/share/alsa-base/snddevices |
| 18:44.43 | nick01 | it worked I hear it |
| 18:44.58 | simonrvn | see? easy :) |
| 18:45.20 | nick01 | let me reboot and see how it works without modprobing anything cause the mixer still doesn't work |
| 18:45.31 | simonrvn | now just do echo snd-powermac >> /etc/modules and echo snd-pcm-oss >> /etc/modules |
| 18:45.54 | nick01 | after I reboot brb |
| 18:46.08 | Bor_Ed | reboot, linux, ??? |
| 18:46.13 | simonrvn | *shrug* |
| 18:46.34 | Bor_Ed | though I don't tend to interact with the country he's from... too many stubborn kiddos online from there |
| 18:47.12 | simonrvn | he's ok, haven't seen him cause trouble anywhere |
| 18:47.57 | simonrvn | bbiab |
| 18:47.57 | Bor_Ed | yea, didn't know that the oss emulation needs to be loaded too though |
| 18:48.08 | simonrvn | yeh, otherwise no /dev/dsp* |
| 18:48.37 | Bor_Ed | oh |
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| 18:49.55 | nick01 | please tell me again how to test the sound cause I heard a beep |
| 18:50.05 | nick01 | simonrvn, ? |
| 18:50.06 | Bor_Ed | cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp or dsp0 |
| 18:51.12 | nick01 | it works without modprobing then why didn't alsa detect my sound card and why isn't the mixer working ? |
| 18:51.42 | Bor_Ed | does aumix work instead of alsamixer? |
| 18:52.02 | nick01 | alsamixer works the gnome mixer doesn't |
| 18:53.02 | Bor_Ed | try the modprobe snd-pcm-oss too |
| 18:53.21 | nick01 | I did that and the mixer still didn't work |
| 18:53.57 | Bor_Ed | hmm, gnome-mixer probably uses esd... do you have it running? |
| 18:54.05 | nick01 | it sais I might not have the necessary gstreamer stuff |
| 18:54.13 | nick01 | dunno |
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| 18:55.51 | Bor_Ed | you're running sid or sarge? |
| 18:55.59 | nick01 | etch :) |
| 18:56.08 | Bor_Ed | that'll explain... |
| 18:56.13 | nick01 | lol |
| 18:56.18 | Bor_Ed | it has worst from sarge and sid |
| 18:56.34 | Bor_Ed | try another daily build or try to upgrade |
| 18:56.48 | nick01 | I tried todays build |
| 18:57.25 | Bor_Ed | the success of getting a working setup with etch is pretty much as easy as winning the jackpot on lottery |
| 18:58.06 | nick01 | all I want is the damn mixer to work :( |
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| 18:58.54 | Bor_Ed | use alsamixer until it gets upgraded |
| 18:59.31 | nick01 | ok :| is there a runlevel editor available something to remove unneded services ? |
| 18:59.55 | Bor_Ed | chkconfig/win 7 |
| 19:00.02 | Bor_Ed | wrong window (tm) |
| 19:00.10 | nick01 | k |
| 19:01.33 | Bor_Ed | there used to be chkconfig... though you can manually remove/add the symlinks in /etc/rc*.d land too |
| 19:01.55 | tcsetattr | rcconf |
| 19:01.59 | Bor_Ed | that too |
| 19:01.59 | simonrvn | back |
| 19:02.22 | nick01 | T55:~# rcconf |
| 19:02.22 | nick01 | -su: rcconf: command not found |
| 19:02.22 | nick01 | T55:~# |
| 19:02.28 | simonrvn | @installit |
| 19:02.29 | ravenbird | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. if someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get |
| 19:02.46 | nick01 | what will rcconf do >? |
| 19:02.57 | simonrvn | what you asked |
| 19:03.16 | nick01 | ncurses ? |
| 19:03.27 | simonrvn | yes |
| 19:03.31 | nick01 | k |
| 19:05.25 | nick01 | what's exim4 ? |
| 19:05.33 | Bor_Ed | SMTP |
| 19:05.50 | nick01 | sysklogd ? |
| 19:05.58 | Bor_Ed | service logger |
| 19:06.04 | nick01 | do I need it ? |
| 19:06.16 | Bor_Ed | depends if you run public services |
| 19:06.27 | nick01 | like web servers ? I don't |
| 19:06.53 | Bor_Ed | web, ssh, ftp, whatever |
| 19:08.02 | nick01 | vlc is not in the repository >? :( |
| 19:08.40 | Bor_Ed | is too |
| 19:09.16 | nick01 | Pachetul vlc nu este disponibil, dar este menţionat de către alt pachet. |
| 19:09.16 | nick01 | Aceasta ar putea însemna că pachetul lipseşte, s-a învechit, sau |
| 19:09.16 | nick01 | este disponibil numai din altă sursă |
| 19:09.16 | nick01 | E: Pachetul vlc nu are nici un candidat la instalare |
| 19:09.16 | Bor_Ed | ahh, you had etch... it's on sid at least |
| 19:09.20 | Bor_Ed | Filename: pool/main/v/vlc/vlc_0.8.5.debian-1_powerpc.deb |
| 19:09.26 | nick01 | :(\ |
| 19:09.41 | nick01 | does that mean I have to install sid ? |
| 19:10.02 | Bor_Ed | when you paste (short) pastes, do: LANG=C command parameters |
| 19:10.07 | Bor_Ed | we'll get english output then |
| 19:10.42 | Bor_Ed | you could upgrade to sid but I'd recommend installing sarge... it's well supported on your hardware |
| 19:11.33 | nick01 | isn't it strange that it is in sid but not in etch ? |
| 19:12.06 | Bor_Ed | not really... sid is the bleeding edge debian setup with packages that aren't ready for production machines |
| 19:12.58 | nick01 | grr |
| 19:13.00 | simonrvn | it's got fresher bits than gentoo's stuff |
| 19:13.31 | Bor_Ed | gentoofs ain't linux in the first place... except the kernel for some parts :P |
| 19:13.51 | simonrvn | doh! got me :) |
| 19:13.56 | simonrvn | hehehe |
| 19:14.16 | nick01 | any other way to watch divx and xvid ? |
| 19:14.17 | Bor_Ed | fuck-upstream-patch.p1337 :D |
| 19:14.21 | Bor_Ed | mplayer |
| 19:14.45 | nick01 | u mean I just apt-get install mplayer and it will come with all the codecs ? |
| 19:14.49 | Bor_Ed | deb http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/linux-ppc/debian/ mplayer/ to /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 19:15.09 | Bor_Ed | add ^ and it'll install all the free codecs and so on |
| 19:15.10 | nick01 | k |
| 19:15.28 | Bor_Ed | just no wmv9 and partly shaky support for nsv... |
| 19:17.03 | nick01 | is that mplayer etch compatible ? |
| 19:17.39 | Bor_Ed | installs at least to sarge and sid so I'd guess it'll install on etch too |
| 19:17.58 | nick01 | I get a W: GPG error: http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de mplayer/ Release: |
| 19:18.09 | nick01 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:19.31 | Bor_Ed | ignore that |
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| 19:20.57 | nick01 | ffmpeg is not on the list of packages to be installed |
| 19:21.08 | nick01 | :{ |
| 19:21.17 | Bor_Ed | etch... |
| 19:21.29 | nick01 | ? |
| 19:21.52 | Bor_Ed | it might work tomorrow or next week or when it moves to stable or... |
| 19:22.18 | nick01 | is there another repo that might have ffmpeg for etch ? |
| 19:22.43 | Bor_Ed | none that I know of... simonrvn ? |
| 19:23.11 | nick01 | or is it easy to compile or it has lots of arcane deps ? |
| 19:23.30 | Bor_Ed | it has tons of deps |
| 19:23.34 | nick01 | :( |
| 19:23.54 | simonrvn | tonnes of deps.. ffmpeg is in sid, there might be a testing line .... ? |
| 19:24.08 | simonrvn | oh, maybe not, but it's somewhere |
| 19:24.14 | nick01 | is there any way to check if ffmpeg is already installed ? |
| 19:25.47 | Bor_Ed | dpkg -l|grep ii|grep ffmpeg |
| 19:25.57 | Bor_Ed | there's better way too, just don't recall offhand |
| 19:26.16 | nick01 | not installed I guess |
| 19:27.01 | nick01 | yay ! apt-get install ffmpeg found it |
| 19:27.10 | nick01 | do u think mplayer will use it ? |
| 19:27.34 | Bor_Ed | it'll use it |
| 19:28.13 | Bor_Ed | apt-cache show mplayer-powerpc shows the deps among others |
| 19:31.41 | nick01 | now it wants me to insert the first cd- I netinstalled :* |
| 19:31.57 | simonrvn | comment that out, the cd-rom line, then run update |
| 19:32.31 | nick01 | it worked I inserted the netinstall cd |
| 19:34.40 | simonrvn | won't need it much anyway. the network-fetched stuff is going to be more up to date |
| 19:35.04 | nick01 | damn |
| 19:35.11 | nick01 | mplayer is not in the menu |
| 19:36.29 | nick01 | where do I configure to open avi mpg and such files with mplayer ? |
| 19:37.50 | Bor_Ed | gmplayer goes to the menu on next login |
| 19:38.32 | simonrvn | or run update-menus |
| 19:38.39 | nick01 | k but how do I configure avi files to be opened with mplayer not totem ?> |
| 19:40.30 | simonrvn | select it in the gnome media thingy |
| 19:40.37 | nick01 | where ? |
| 19:41.34 | simonrvn | desktop -> preferences in gnome (if you're running gnome, which you seem to be doing) |
| 19:42.41 | nick01 | that only configures input and output for alsa and stuff |
| 19:43.01 | simonrvn | but you could've found that yourself, right :) ? some other thing, go look |
| 19:43.13 | nick01 | I looked |
| 19:43.18 | nick01 | can't find anything |
| 19:44.42 | nick01 | what was the name of those things - gnome system tools ? how do I install them >? |
| 19:50.45 | nick01 | I can't get any sound in mplayer |
| 19:50.49 | nick01 | HELP !!! |
| 19:51.08 | nick01 | simonrvn, ? |
| 19:51.13 | nick01 | Bor_Ed, ?> |
| 19:52.03 | Bor_Ed | you need to tell mplayer to use esd audio... mplayer -ao esd for example |
| 19:52.25 | nick01 | I tried that I configuredd it in gmplayer |
| 19:52.28 | nick01 | didn't work |
| 19:53.03 | Bor_Ed | then install and run esound before launching mplayer |
| 19:53.09 | nick01 | how ? |
| 19:53.17 | Bor_Ed | apt-get .... |
| 19:54.03 | nick01 | esound is already installed |
| 19:54.26 | Bor_Ed | it should be running too, process name is esd |
| 19:54.46 | nick01 | it's not runing |
| 19:54.50 | nick01 | rfunning |
| 19:55.16 | Bor_Ed | then run it... esd& on console as user |
| 19:55.33 | Bor_Ed | and enable it on gnome control center |
| 19:55.50 | nick01 | /dev/dsp: Permission denied |
| 19:56.26 | Bor_Ed | add yourself to audio group and relogin |
| 19:56.41 | Bor_Ed | or chmod 666 /dev/dsp , not recommended way though |
| 19:58.25 | nick01 | k brb |
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| 20:02.27 | nick01 | tks ! it worked now even the mixer is fine |
| 20:02.38 | Bor_Ed | :) |
| 20:02.57 | nick01 | but I still dunno what the heck is it using alsa oss or what ? |
| 20:03.06 | Bor_Ed | esd |
| 20:03.10 | Bor_Ed | or esound |
| 20:03.23 | nick01 | yeah but below that it must be alsa or oss |
| 20:03.29 | Bor_Ed | alsa then |
| 20:04.01 | nick01 | snd_powermac 51552 2 |
| 20:04.01 | nick01 | snd_pcm_oss 63648 1 |
| 20:04.01 | nick01 | snd_mixer_oss 21536 1 snd_pcm_oss |
| 20:04.01 | nick01 | snd_pcm 102788 2 snd_powermac,snd_pcm_oss |
| 20:04.03 | nick01 | snd_timer 27620 1 snd_pcm |
| 20:04.05 | nick01 | snd 67412 7 snd_powermac,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer |
| 20:04.07 | nick01 | soundcore |
| 20:04.09 | nick01 | what's that ? |
| 20:04.11 | nick01 | oss ? |
| 20:04.13 | Bor_Ed | alsa |
| 20:04.20 | nick01 | alsa with oss emulation ? |
| 20:04.24 | Bor_Ed | oss would be dmasound_pmac |
| 20:04.53 | Bor_Ed | it's alsa with oss emulation |
| 20:05.06 | nick01 | why not alsa itself ? |
| 20:05.27 | Bor_Ed | some apps still aren't compatible with alsa so compability is needed |
| 20:05.30 | nick01 | and why isn't alsaconf detecting the sound card ? |
| 20:05.34 | nick01 | k |
| 20:06.01 | Bor_Ed | alsaconf doesn't detect the sound chip since it's on i2c or similar bus, not on pci |
| 20:06.16 | nick01 | I c |
| 20:07.13 | nick01 | tks for helping :) |
| 20:07.26 | Bor_Ed | no prob |
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