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| 00:01.44 | d4t2ilL4 | hello, do you guys support kuro-box questions here? |
| 00:05.28 | cyberfunk | i was just in OF, and tried to set boot device to /pci/mac-io/ide/ata-disk@0:2 |
| 00:05.31 | cyberfunk | and then tried to boot |
| 00:05.37 | cyberfunk | and it said it couldnt open it |
| 00:16.11 | simonrvn | cyberfunk: from bootx? no, you'd use hda2 or whatever it is (in the [/dev/] box |
| 00:16.23 | cyberfunk | yea that doesnt work at all |
| 00:16.26 | simonrvn | d4t2ilL4: no |
| 00:16.26 | cyberfunk | that crashes linux |
| 00:16.51 | cyberfunk | no, that was in OpenFirmware that i tried that |
| 00:16.59 | simonrvn | might need to specify root= (probably root=/dev/hda2). oh, ok |
| 00:17.03 | simonrvn | afk |
| 00:17.07 | cyberfunk | tried that too |
| 00:17.25 | cyberfunk | i'm back in linux by using an old 2.6.8 image and initrd i had from before stored on my drive |
| 00:19.25 | cyberfunk | my current problem is still that i cant copy over the current kernel/initrd, and that i cant boot from OpenFirmware |
| 00:19.41 | cyberfunk | gimme a message when you have some time, i'll mess w/ it on my own until then |
| 00:19.48 | cyberfunk | and hopefully not fuck anything up too bad |
| 00:21.44 | simonrvn | what crashes linux? |
| 00:22.01 | cyberfunk | putting /dev/hda2 in bootX |
| 00:22.24 | cyberfunk | but using a 2.6.8 kernel + a initrd ram disk from sarge |
| 00:22.28 | cyberfunk | works |
| 00:22.32 | cyberfunk | and boots the system |
| 00:23.03 | simonrvn | ok, first you only put hda2 there, it already has /dev/ programmed into it |
| 00:23.07 | cyberfunk | yea |
| 00:23.08 | cyberfunk | i know |
| 00:23.16 | cyberfunk | i only put hda2 |
| 00:23.21 | simonrvn | ok |
| 00:23.51 | simonrvn | ok, so what happens when you do put that there? |
| 00:24.16 | cyberfunk | you want me to do it right now ? |
| 00:24.51 | cyberfunk | i see the little penguin |
| 00:24.56 | cyberfunk | is scrolls through some stuff |
| 00:25.00 | cyberfunk | then hits and error message |
| 00:25.21 | cyberfunk | Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-click(0,0) |
| 00:25.26 | cyberfunk | unknown-Block |
| 00:25.29 | cyberfunk | rather |
| 00:25.39 | cyberfunk | <0> Rebooting in 180 secs... |
| 00:25.57 | simonrvn | ok. i thought so. you need the initrd, but you don't have it since you haven't been able to cp it over to mac os |
| 00:26.08 | cyberfunk | before that... it says VFS: Cannot open root device hda2 or unknown-block(0,0,) |
| 00:26.16 | cyberfunk | not true |
| 00:26.19 | cyberfunk | i have an initRD |
| 00:26.22 | cyberfunk | that i copied over |
| 00:26.27 | cyberfunk | when i was in sarge |
| 00:26.30 | cyberfunk | here's the thing |
| 00:26.45 | cyberfunk | i could only do this copy when i booted the INSTALLER kernel and initrd |
| 00:26.51 | cyberfunk | not from the booted OS |
| 00:27.00 | cyberfunk | cause the booted os write-locks it |
| 00:27.01 | simonrvn | you need to add the initrd to the ramdisk option to include the initrd |
| 00:27.11 | cyberfunk | huh? |
| 00:27.15 | cyberfunk | yes yes |
| 00:27.17 | cyberfunk | i know that |
| 00:27.22 | cyberfunk | i can boot linux that way |
| 00:28.10 | simonrvn | then you're not being very clear |
| 00:28.13 | cyberfunk | but it's not the current initrd/kernel it's the one i copied over from sarge |
| 00:28.15 | cyberfunk | ok |
| 00:28.16 | cyberfunk | sorry |
| 00:28.20 | cyberfunk | heres whats going on |
| 00:28.55 | cyberfunk | when i installed sarge.. i couldnt boot afterwards |
| 00:28.58 | cyberfunk | cause quik wasnt working |
| 00:29.02 | cyberfunk | so i reset the firmware |
| 00:29.10 | cyberfunk | booted into mac os 9.2 |
| 00:29.40 | cyberfunk | used bootX to reboot into the INSTALLER |
| 00:29.59 | cyberfunk | from the installer-specific initrd |
| 00:30.18 | cyberfunk | then, dropped into a shell |
| 00:30.37 | cyberfunk | and copied over the initrd and kernel from the just installed system to my mac os 9 disk |
| 00:30.45 | cyberfunk | then rebooted AGAIN |
| 00:31.07 | cyberfunk | and set Boot X to use that Kernel and initrd to boot sarge |
| 00:31.11 | simonrvn | this is the 2.6.8 stuff, right? |
| 00:31.34 | cyberfunk | the initial sarge installer was 2.4 i think... ? |
| 00:31.39 | cyberfunk | not sure.. but in any case |
| 00:31.41 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 00:31.53 | cyberfunk | i have a 2.68 kernel/initrd image there now |
| 00:31.53 | simonrvn | never mind, i think i know anyway |
| 00:32.20 | simonrvn | ok. yeh, you *also* need to specify a root= in that big text box at the bottom of the bootx screen |
| 00:33.17 | simonrvn | seems redundant, but has to be done |
| 00:34.18 | cyberfunk | ok |
| 00:34.21 | cyberfunk | hold on one sec |
| 00:34.26 | cyberfunk | i just rebooted into the installer |
| 00:34.39 | cyberfunk | i'm going to copy my etch kernel over to my mac os 9 drive |
| 00:34.45 | cyberfunk | so i can use the latest kernel |
| 00:34.51 | cyberfunk | i'll do the initRD too |
| 00:35.23 | simonrvn | yeh. i do the whole shebang, System.map, config, vmlinux, and initrd (if any) |
| 00:35.30 | cyberfunk | ? |
| 00:36.01 | cyberfunk | how do i list all attached devices |
| 00:36.19 | simonrvn | where? |
| 00:36.23 | cyberfunk | and their matching "/dev's" |
| 00:36.26 | simonrvn | and which ones? |
| 00:36.34 | cyberfunk | i dont remember which HD is which |
| 00:36.37 | simonrvn | mount |
| 00:36.48 | cyberfunk | no |
| 00:36.51 | cyberfunk | the non-mounted ones |
| 00:36.52 | cyberfunk | like |
| 00:36.55 | cyberfunk | one se |
| 00:36.57 | cyberfunk | sec |
| 00:36.57 | cyberfunk | nm |
| 00:37.08 | simonrvn | you'll need to use mac-fdisk -l /dev/ide/<tab><tab> to the right one |
| 00:37.19 | cyberfunk | yea nm |
| 00:37.20 | cyberfunk | i found it |
| 00:37.37 | cyberfunk | now, how the hell come i can mount my os9 disk when i boot the installer's initrd |
| 00:37.43 | cyberfunk | without that annoying write-check |
| 00:37.58 | cyberfunk | i.e. the one that write-locks the disk ? |
| 00:38.18 | simonrvn | try mouting it, then re-mounting it rw |
| 00:38.28 | simonrvn | mount -o remount,rw /path |
| 00:38.36 | cyberfunk | no |
| 00:38.41 | cyberfunk | i DONT have the problem in the installer |
| 00:38.43 | cyberfunk | where i am now |
| 00:38.48 | cyberfunk | i do in the regular boot |
| 00:38.55 | cyberfunk | thats why i rebooted to the installer |
| 00:38.57 | cyberfunk | to do this copy |
| 00:39.16 | simonrvn | oh i see |
| 00:39.42 | cyberfunk | fck |
| 00:39.45 | cyberfunk | now it's a readonly ?? |
| 00:40.08 | cyberfunk | argh |
| 00:40.09 | cyberfunk | one sec |
| 00:40.40 | cyberfunk | uh |
| 00:41.06 | cyberfunk | fuck ! |
| 00:41.13 | cyberfunk | it wont let me copy |
| 00:41.18 | cyberfunk | says it's a readonly file system |
| 00:41.26 | cyberfunk | but mount didnt gimme any warnings ! |
| 00:41.42 | simonrvn | busybox mount is very basic |
| 00:41.44 | cyberfunk | and mount says that /dev/hdd6 on /mnt/os9 type hfsplus (rw) |
| 00:41.51 | cyberfunk | RW !! |
| 00:41.56 | simonrvn | cat /proc/mounts |
| 00:42.14 | cyberfunk | no such file/dir |
| 00:42.24 | cyberfunk | i chrooted to my normal root drive |
| 00:42.26 | cyberfunk | btw |
| 00:42.41 | simonrvn | mount it |
| 00:42.46 | cyberfunk | mount what? |
| 00:42.50 | simonrvn | /proc |
| 00:43.08 | cyberfunk | did |
| 00:43.18 | cyberfunk | there's a line when i say cat /proc/mounts |
| 00:43.28 | cyberfunk | /dev/hdd6 /mnt/os9 hfsplus ro 00 |
| 00:45.41 | simonrvn | so remount it rw (or try anyway, might not let you) |
| 00:45.59 | simonrvn | you'll have to go back to mac os, and run disk first aid on it |
| 00:46.00 | cyberfunk | how? |
| 00:46.07 | cyberfunk | i've done that |
| 00:46.09 | simonrvn | mount -o remount,rw /path |
| 00:46.18 | cyberfunk | what do i replace /path w/ ? |
| 00:46.40 | cyberfunk | /mnt/os9 ? |
| 00:47.00 | simonrvn | yes |
| 00:47.04 | cyberfunk | yea |
| 00:47.08 | cyberfunk | command took |
| 00:47.11 | cyberfunk | it's still RO |
| 00:47.54 | simonrvn | with /proc/mounts output? |
| 00:47.58 | cyberfunk | yea |
| 00:48.05 | cyberfunk | you think it worked before cause it just wasnt damaged? |
| 00:48.24 | simonrvn | yes. if it's been marked unclean, it won't be possible to mount it rw |
| 00:48.39 | simonrvn | you'll have to run disk first aid on it |
| 00:48.44 | cyberfunk | ok... |
| 00:48.44 | cyberfunk | well |
| 00:48.49 | cyberfunk | even if I DO do that |
| 00:49.20 | cyberfunk | and copy over the initrd and the current kernel (which should be the same as the one iv'e already got, right ? i.e. the kernel didnt change from sarge to etch ?) |
| 00:49.42 | cyberfunk | then where does that get me ? |
| 00:50.00 | simonrvn | it won't upgrade the kernel from under you, no. ever. it'll say so, and it defaults to not doing it, to prevent accidents |
| 00:51.12 | simonrvn | so you're safe |
| 00:51.25 | cyberfunk | i.e. |
| 00:51.42 | cyberfunk | i can use the old sarge kernel and the old sarge initrd to boot my new system ? |
| 00:51.47 | cyberfunk | and there should be any difference/ |
| 00:51.48 | cyberfunk | ? |
| 00:51.56 | cyberfunk | or do i need the new initrd ? |
| 00:52.08 | simonrvn | for now, at least until you can |
| 00:52.13 | simonrvn | ...copy it over |
| 00:52.29 | cyberfunk | ok |
| 00:52.38 | cyberfunk | but this doesnt solve the fundalmental problem w |
| 00:52.50 | cyberfunk | which is.. how do i boot straight from firmware? |
| 00:52.58 | simonrvn | you'll have to go through all that shite to chroot to your system, then start it up manually |
| 00:53.02 | cyberfunk | (running disk first aid on my root drive now) |
| 00:53.17 | simonrvn | which is: |
| 00:53.37 | simonrvn | mount everything, once you've remounted / r/w |
| 00:53.55 | simonrvn | (mount everything == mount -a) |
| 00:54.10 | cyberfunk | start what up manually? |
| 00:54.19 | simonrvn | your system |
| 00:54.24 | cyberfunk | wiat |
| 00:54.38 | cyberfunk | i can currently do it fine from bootX |
| 00:54.43 | simonrvn | ok |
| 00:54.52 | cyberfunk | using the ram disk |
| 00:55.08 | simonrvn | yeh but don't you only have the install initrd there? |
| 00:55.09 | cyberfunk | adding the root=/dev/hda2 line didnt help anything |
| 00:55.14 | simonrvn | :/ |
| 00:55.23 | cyberfunk | no, i also have the sarge initrd there |
| 00:55.30 | simonrvn | oh, so np then |
| 00:55.37 | cyberfunk | ? |
| 00:55.50 | simonrvn | @np |
| 00:55.51 | ravenbird | methinks np is "no problem", or "null pointer", or "no pants", or non-deterministically polynomial, or ¡ningún problema! |
| 00:55.55 | cyberfunk | hahahah |
| 00:55.59 | cyberfunk | i KNOW what np means |
| 00:56.02 | cyberfunk | i meant |
| 00:56.06 | cyberfunk | why is it not a problem |
| 00:56.11 | cyberfunk | is the sarge initrd the same as the etch initrd? |
| 00:56.22 | simonrvn | no, but it'll work for now |
| 00:56.26 | cyberfunk | dont i need to copy over the new etch initrd ? |
| 00:56.30 | cyberfunk | ok |
| 00:56.37 | cyberfunk | so what do i want to do at this point ? |
| 00:56.50 | simonrvn | of course you'll have to cp over any updates, etc. that's normal |
| 00:56.59 | cyberfunk | is the KERNEL updated? |
| 00:57.14 | cyberfunk | or can i continue to use the 268 one i have from sarge ? |
| 00:57.16 | simonrvn | you tell me. less /var/log/aptitude |
| 00:57.22 | cyberfunk | haha |
| 00:57.24 | cyberfunk | i'm in 9 |
| 00:57.25 | cyberfunk | atm |
| 00:57.27 | simonrvn | did you tell it to? |
| 00:58.12 | cyberfunk | yes, cause i tried bootX w/ the root= option |
| 00:58.14 | cyberfunk | and it didnt work |
| 00:58.21 | cyberfunk | so i rebooted, disk first aided |
| 00:58.26 | cyberfunk | and now i'm rebooting into linux |
| 00:58.28 | cyberfunk | w/ the ram disk |
| 00:58.57 | cyberfunk | (option in bootx) |
| 00:59.10 | cyberfunk | so now i'm in linux, should i try one more time to mount the os9 drive? |
| 00:59.46 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 00:59.52 | cyberfunk | uh.. wtf |
| 00:59.57 | cyberfunk | my root filesystem check failed? |
| 01:00.09 | cyberfunk | (diff from os9 ) |
| 01:00.13 | cyberfunk | it's still booting |
| 01:00.52 | cyberfunk | oh, annoying, it's booting into X |
| 01:01.02 | cyberfunk | alright |
| 01:01.06 | cyberfunk | i got a root prompt |
| 01:01.29 | cyberfunk | fck ! |
| 01:01.33 | cyberfunk | still readonly |
| 01:01.48 | cyberfunk | mount -t hfsplus /dev/hdd6 /mnt/os9 |
| 01:02.26 | cyberfunk | ok |
| 01:02.28 | cyberfunk | so what should i do ? |
| 01:02.53 | simonrvn | mount -o remount,rw /mnt/os9 again |
| 01:03.43 | cyberfunk | same warning |
| 01:03.55 | cyberfunk | still RO |
| 01:04.46 | cyberfunk | oh... when i was just running the installer initrd image.. iwas using the current linux kernel 2.6.8 |
| 01:04.52 | cyberfunk | not the 2.4 one that it came w/ |
| 01:05.04 | cyberfunk | maby i should try that and it'll magically let me write to the disk |
| 01:05.05 | cyberfunk | ? |
| 01:05.40 | simonrvn | no, won't matter i don't think. if you want, go ahead and try it, but i don't think it'll matter |
| 01:05.58 | cyberfunk | ok |
| 01:06.19 | cyberfunk | is there a way to do that mkvmlinuz thing right from the firmware |
| 01:06.23 | cyberfunk | and get around all this ? |
| 01:06.28 | cyberfunk | isnt that the point of that damn thing |
| 01:06.29 | cyberfunk | ?> |
| 01:06.43 | pahartik | cyberfunk: did you get that installed Debian GNU/Linux system booted with kernel from stable? |
| 01:07.10 | cyberfunk | i have etch installed |
| 01:07.21 | cyberfunk | and i'm booting using the installed kernel/initrd from sarge |
| 01:07.27 | cyberfunk | and i can get it to run like that |
| 01:07.38 | cyberfunk | but i cant get mklinuz or quik to work |
| 01:07.49 | simonrvn | whether you're using quik or mkvmlinuz doesn't matter, either way you're still avoiding the bootx garbage |
| 01:08.10 | cyberfunk | and i cant copy the new kernel/initrd over to my mac os 9 disk because it's somehow now writelocked from linux side |
| 01:08.23 | cyberfunk | i know |
| 01:08.30 | cyberfunk | i think mklinuz has a chance at sucess tho |
| 01:08.35 | cyberfunk | i already ran it |
| 01:08.44 | cyberfunk | i just dont know what to type into OF to try to make it work |
| 01:09.18 | cyberfunk | oh SNAP |
| 01:09.22 | simonrvn | i don't either ;) |
| 01:09.31 | cyberfunk | i know how i can move the current kernel file and init RD |
| 01:09.38 | cyberfunk | over to my mac os 9 drive |
| 01:09.42 | cyberfunk | USB stick baby ! |
| 01:09.54 | cyberfunk | (I have a USB PCI card in the machine) |
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| 01:10.13 | cyberfunk | fck |
| 01:10.18 | cyberfunk | i hate when i do that !! |
| 01:10.21 | cyberfunk | Apple-W |
| 01:10.24 | cyberfunk | wwrong keyboard |
| 01:10.36 | cyberfunk | you think that will work ? |
| 01:10.45 | cyberfunk | mac os 9 sees the stick |
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| 01:10.53 | cyberfunk | damn it |
| 01:10.53 | pahartik | cyberfunk: so newer kernel does not work? "linux-image-2.6.15-1-powerpc"? |
| 01:10.55 | cyberfunk | i did it again |
| 01:11.06 | cyberfunk | uh.... whats there? |
| 01:11.07 | cyberfunk | that? |
| 01:11.12 | cyberfunk | and where should i have gotten it from? |
| 01:11.19 | cyberfunk | i dont have that anywhere on my system |
| 01:12.28 | cyberfunk | how do i mount a usb disk ? |
| 01:13.14 | simonrvn | uses the scsi sub-system, so it's mounted like a scsi drive |
| 01:14.12 | cyberfunk | .....? |
| 01:14.32 | cyberfunk | is there a way to automount it ? |
| 01:14.41 | simonrvn | several |
| 01:15.00 | pahartik | cyberfunk: should show up under "/dev/scsi/" |
| 01:15.45 | simonrvn | or /dev/sd* if you're not using that abomination of devfs |
| 01:15.50 | simonrvn | ;p |
| 01:16.10 | cyberfunk | there's a billion sd*'s |
| 01:16.22 | cyberfunk | how do i know which is mapped to the device? |
| 01:16.45 | simonrvn | first one |
| 01:17.00 | simonrvn | since you don't have any other scsi devices. check dmesg first |
| 01:17.07 | simonrvn | ...make sure it was detected |
| 01:17.24 | cyberfunk | for what.... |
| 01:17.39 | simonrvn | anything that says usb ;) |
| 01:17.50 | cyberfunk | dmesg | grep "usb" |
| 01:18.12 | cyberfunk | usb 1-1: new full speed usb device using address 2 ? |
| 01:18.12 | simonrvn | grep -i |
| 01:18.21 | simonrvn | yeh, look down from there |
| 01:19.03 | cyberfunk | scsi0: SCSI emulation for USB mass storage devices |
| 01:19.22 | cyberfunk | usb mass storage dev. found at 2 |
| 01:19.24 | simonrvn | gotcha |
| 01:19.31 | cyberfunk | ? |
| 01:19.37 | cyberfunk | mount /dev/scsi0 ? |
| 01:19.44 | simonrvn | no, sda |
| 01:20.04 | cyberfunk | -t usbfs? |
| 01:20.52 | simonrvn | no, whatever fs it was formatted with |
| 01:20.58 | cyberfunk | uh..... |
| 01:20.58 | cyberfunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.01 | simonrvn | probably vfat |
| 01:22.10 | cyberfunk | it doesnt like that |
| 01:22.22 | cyberfunk | cant find valid fat filesystem on dev da |
| 01:22.23 | cyberfunk | sda |
| 01:22.33 | demon | is it a fixed disk? |
| 01:22.47 | demon | if so, you need to find out what partition to mount |
| 01:22.49 | cyberfunk | ? |
| 01:22.54 | cyberfunk | it's a usbstick |
| 01:22.59 | demon | then yes |
| 01:23.00 | cyberfunk | pen drive |
| 01:23.03 | demon | it's partitioned |
| 01:23.06 | demon | try sda1 |
| 01:23.27 | demon | unless you've changed the partitions (sounds like you didn't), that's probably the one to look at |
| 01:23.54 | simonrvn | ok |
| 01:24.17 | cyberfunk | got it ! |
| 01:24.20 | cyberfunk | (sda1) |
| 01:24.30 | cyberfunk | how do you list partitions on a device? |
| 01:24.43 | cyberfunk | on a mac drive its' mac-fdisk -l /dev/DEVICE |
| 01:24.50 | cyberfunk | but in general ? |
| 01:25.05 | demon | well, the easiest way to just see what partitions the system knows about, 'cat /proc/partitions' |
| 01:25.22 | demon | that'll show all the wholedisk and partition block devices the system knows about |
| 01:26.21 | cyberfunk | oh |
| 01:26.24 | cyberfunk | and on a specific device? |
| 01:26.35 | cyberfunk | got the kernel and the initrd onto the usb drive! |
| 01:26.43 | cyberfunk | rebooting... copying to my os9 drive |
| 01:27.38 | simonrvn | weeeee |
| 01:27.41 | simonrvn | :) |
| 01:28.47 | demon | you can probably use parted to list the contents of a partition table... 'parted /dev/sda print' would work |
| 01:29.06 | cyberfunk | "parted" |
| 01:29.06 | cyberfunk | ? |
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| 01:29.17 | cyberfunk | FUCK |
| 01:29.22 | cyberfunk | i have to stop doing that |
| 01:29.30 | cyberfunk | (got 3 keyboards in front of me)( |
| 01:30.27 | cyberfunk | ok |
| 01:30.45 | cyberfunk | i'm rebooted on the etch initrd/kernel |
| 01:30.57 | cyberfunk | wait... question |
| 01:31.03 | cyberfunk | when i updated from sarge to etch |
| 01:31.08 | cyberfunk | did it NOT update my kernel ? |
| 01:31.15 | cyberfunk | what's the kernel that ships w/ etch ? |
| 01:31.34 | simonrvn | the default one is 2.6.15 IIRC. |
| 01:31.45 | cyberfunk | but i'm still using 2.6.8 |
| 01:31.51 | cyberfunk | will that be a problem? |
| 01:32.36 | demon | no, but it may not update until you run 'apt-get install linux-image-2.6-powerpc' |
| 01:33.16 | cyberfunk | will that come w/ a new initrd too ? |
| 01:33.25 | demon | it will generate one, yes |
| 01:37.33 | cyberfunk | ok |
| 01:37.35 | cyberfunk | well |
| 01:37.36 | cyberfunk | so |
| 01:37.40 | cyberfunk | now my problem is there |
| 01:37.41 | cyberfunk | this |
| 01:37.46 | cyberfunk | well |
| 01:37.50 | cyberfunk | a couple things |
| 01:38.00 | cyberfunk | first, how do i turn off the xserver starting at login ? |
| 01:38.04 | cyberfunk | or boot, rather |
| 01:38.15 | cyberfunk | i want it to only start when i tell it to via startx |
| 01:38.30 | cyberfunk | and second... should I just be happy w/ using bootX? |
| 01:40.13 | cyberfunk | also... if i want to upgrade the kernel, do i want linux-image-2.6-powerpc or linux-image-2.6.15-1-powerpc ? |
| 01:40.28 | cyberfunk | or even linux-image-powerpc |
| 01:40.29 | cyberfunk | ? |
| 01:49.51 | cyberfunk | helloooo out there? |
| 01:49.55 | cyberfunk | :) |
| 01:51.10 | pahartik | cyberfunk: "linux-image-powerpc" depends on "linux-image-2.6-powerpc" |
| 01:52.05 | pahartik | cyberfunk: "linux-image-2.6-powerpc" depends on "linux-image-2.6.15-1-powerpc" |
| 01:53.21 | pahartik | cyberfunk: (currently in "etch", and specific version "2.6.15-8" of those) |
| 01:58.37 | cyberfunk | sooo.. |
| 01:58.40 | cyberfunk | i should install ? |
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| 01:59.20 | meta-ridley | for some reason i can't get dev.mac_hid.mouse* to work |
| 02:00.08 | meta-ridley | any ideas? |
| 02:00.55 | simonrvn | cyberfunk: you may have to stick with bootx if quik doesn't work |
| 02:01.09 | cyberfunk | no mkvcmlinuz |
| 02:01.14 | cyberfunk | ? |
| 02:01.20 | meta-ridley | im even using an older kernel |
| 02:01.50 | pahartik | meta-ridley: what happened? |
| 02:02.28 | meta-ridley | i can't get emulatation of 2nd/3rd mouse buttons to work anymore |
| 02:02.39 | meta-ridley | emulation |
| 02:02.55 | meta-ridley | im even back to using an older kernel |
| 02:03.31 | meta-ridley | im using fn+alt/ctrl for mouse 2 and 3 |
| 02:03.38 | meta-ridley | xev can see the key presses |
| 02:06.53 | simonrvn | cyberfunk: same diff, just skipping the bootloader. like i told you earlier, it's a firmware and hardware issue, not a quik issue |
| 02:11.05 | cyberfunk | haha |
| 02:11.17 | cyberfunk | well upgrading to 2.6.15-1 definately DIDNT work |
| 02:11.41 | cyberfunk | i copied over the initrd and the kernel |
| 02:11.56 | cyberfunk | and it caused some some wierd so of crash i've never seen on attempted boot |
| 02:12.01 | cyberfunk | dropped me into a debugger |
| 02:12.29 | cyberfunk | can i uninstall the 2.6.15 kernel package and the udev that goes w/ it ? |
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| 02:14.47 | cyberfunk | hahaha |
| 02:14.55 | cyberfunk | it really doesnt matter what i have in /boot at all |
| 02:14.56 | cyberfunk | aaha |
| 02:15.31 | cyberfunk | i just realized this |
| 02:16.12 | pahartik | cyberfunk: when booting with BootX it does not matter |
| 02:17.42 | cyberfunk | yea |
| 02:17.43 | cyberfunk | i mean |
| 02:17.44 | cyberfunk | i knew that |
| 02:17.49 | cyberfunk | in the back of my head |
| 02:17.52 | cyberfunk | but it's sorta fcked up |
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| 11:28.48 | Corsac | mpf |
| 11:28.58 | Corsac | can't remove snd-aoa-fabric :( |
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| 14:30.56 | Patrick`_ | yesterday someone told me the OF commands I'd need to issue in order to pass arguments to quik |
| 14:31.19 | Patrick`_ | and I didn't write them down. I need to boot off a different root FS so I can try to recover my root FS on which chatlogs are stored. So no, this isn't laziness |
| 14:31.31 | Patrick`_ | the same box also runs DNS which is down, so I can't google |
| 14:32.54 | Patrick`_ | specifically, I want to give my kernel a new root=/dev/stuff argument |
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| 14:36.41 | Patrick`_ | even if someone can just check the logs from the last time I was here I'd be much appreciative |
| 14:37.00 | Patrick`_ | (already connected to freenode) |
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| 18:46.43 | Corsac | hmhm, there is no more bcm43xx in 2.6.17-rc6 ? |
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