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| 09:43.32 | syn | hi |
| 09:43.41 | syn | i didn't know where to ask so i came here |
| 09:43.59 | syn | what's the difference between ppc and powerpc architectures when building a linux kernel ? |
| 09:52.38 | johill | ppc is deprecated |
| 09:52.47 | johill | and only contains some embedded platforms |
| 09:52.52 | johill | and ppc is 32-bit only |
| 09:53.00 | johill | ppc64 is also deprecated now |
| 09:53.07 | johill | powerpc ocontains both 32 and 64 bit support |
| 09:53.19 | johill | so unless you have an embedded board (you should know what you're doing then) use powerpc |
| 09:53.22 | syn | i'm targetting a PowerQUICC embedded board |
| 09:53.32 | johill | is that in the kernel already? |
| 09:53.36 | syn | yes |
| 09:53.47 | johill | then you have to find out if it's still in ppc or already in powerpc |
| 09:53.53 | syn | it's in both |
| 09:53.58 | syn | that's why i must be sure :) |
| 09:54.15 | johill | heh |
| 09:54.27 | syn | i'll go for powerpc then |
| 09:54.29 | syn | thanks :) |
| 09:54.30 | johill | then you should try the powerpc version and if that doesn't work try ppc and fixing the powerpc one |
| 09:54.41 | syn | ok |
| 09:54.43 | johill | I don't know why it'd be in both though |
| 09:54.52 | syn | but the board is already well supported, so it shouldn't be a problem |
| 09:55.28 | johill | I thought when moving the old ones in ppc were removed |
| 09:55.28 | johill | :) |
| 09:58.13 | syn | well, i should have what i need |
| 09:58.18 | syn | thanks, have a nice day :) |
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| 10:32.45 | johill | benzea: would you look at my latest revision asm shell? |
| 10:32.58 | johill | I'd like your help with a few things ;) like updating the treeview when I change the model? |
| 10:33.12 | benzea | huh? that should be automatic I though |
| 10:35.53 | johill | it isn't |
| 10:36.00 | johill | no wonder really |
| 10:36.04 | johill | since I use a TreeModel |
| 10:36.11 | johill | and just change the underlying storage data |
| 10:36.37 | johill | right now you have to start ./shell.py /path/to/binary |
| 10:36.48 | johill | it should support loading (in fact, the only thing missing is updating the tree) |
| 10:37.32 | johill | I probably need to cal row_inserted or something |
| 10:37.52 | benzea | hmm, what kind of binaries work? |
| 10:38.41 | johill | ppc-otool/x86-elf/mips-elf |
| 10:38.50 | johill | but for the former you need otool |
| 10:38.55 | johill | and for the latter you need binutils-multiarch |
| 10:39.31 | johill | the latter two that is |
| 10:39.45 | johill | unless you're running on x86 or mips :) |
| 10:41.06 | johill | does it not work? |
| 10:45.15 | johill | anyway, lunch |
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| 10:51.15 | infinito | hi! |
| 10:51.47 | infinito | can anyone paste the contents of /sys/devices/platform/windfarm.0 ?? |
| 10:52.07 | infinito | im writing a temperature monitor applet and i dont have a mac... |
| 10:59.24 | Corsac | http://paste.debian.net/11971 |
| 11:04.36 | infinito | Corsac: thanks! |
| 11:04.49 | infinito | Corsac: do you know where is the thermal information stored? |
| 11:07.54 | Corsac | /sys/devices/temperatures/ ? |
| 11:09.00 | infinito | tu tienes un G4 verdad? |
| 11:09.13 | infinito | you have a G4 dont you? |
| 11:11.41 | infinito | Corsac: can u please paste a tree from /sys/devices/temperatures/ ? |
| 11:12.58 | Corsac | http://paste.debian.net/11974 |
| 11:16.23 | infinito | Corsac: thank u very much! |
| 11:19.11 | infinito | now i need anyone with a G5... |
| 11:19.21 | Corsac | can't help there :) |
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| 11:38.14 | johill | infinito: talk to 'netstar' on #mklinux, he has a G5 and was talking about having it online all the time a few hours ago |
| 11:38.28 | infinito | johill: thanks! |
| 11:39.20 | johill | he might be off now though, iirc he lives in .au |
| 11:45.16 | johill | infinito: also, it's likely different between all the idfferent machines |
| 11:46.03 | infinito | johill: im pretty sure that temperature information is on /sys/devices/platform/windfarm.0/cpu_temp, but i need to confirm it |
| 11:46.19 | infinito | there's no documentation online about it... |
| 11:47.54 | johill | but the quad has 4 cpu temperatures ;) |
| 11:48.03 | johill | you should probably just read the kernel code for it |
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| 12:12.19 | mayoral | anyone knows if debian runs on powermac12,1 (imac g5 w/isight)? |
| 12:13.34 | johill | it should |
| 12:13.46 | johill | after all, it runs on all other G5s :) |
| 12:13.57 | mayoral | johill, what do i need to start? :) |
| 12:14.09 | johill | I usually start with the latest netinstall iso snapshot ;) |
| 12:17.31 | mayoral | johill, http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/ ? |
| 12:20.18 | johill | do you want stable or unstable? I always install unstable :) |
| 12:20.26 | mayoral | unstable |
| 12:20.32 | johill | sec |
| 12:21.44 | johill | http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 12:21.59 | johill | "daily built images" :) |
| 12:22.46 | johill | and I always confuse this |
| 12:22.46 | johill | I use netboot, not netinst |
| 12:23.21 | johill | probably either the daily or http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-powerpc/beta3/images/powerpc/netboot/ |
| 12:23.47 | johill | if you think you might need to do it twice it's useful to have a package mirror (apt-cacher for example) on another machine |
| 12:24.29 | mayoral | johill, thanks for the tips :) |
| 12:24.50 | mayoral | i'm downloading an daily-built iso |
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| 15:14.43 | infinito | anyone here using a G5 ?? |
| 15:15.34 | johill | mine's 300km away from me or so ;) |
| 15:15.49 | infinito | pity ;) |
| 15:16.11 | johill | yeah, it's good for distcc, I run 8 processes on it and one on my laptop :) |
| 15:17.05 | infinito | do u have remote acces to the G5? |
| 15:17.21 | johill | no |
| 15:17.24 | johill | it's both offline and off |
| 15:17.36 | infinito | pity again XD |
| 15:17.36 | johill | (and has no keyboard, otherwise I could get my g/f to do stuff to it) |
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| 16:40.20 | Beuc_ | Hey. I'm trying to install Debian on a iMac (G3 I think), with CRT screen. I can't find a way to control the screen backlight/brightness. Any clue? :) |
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| 17:02.46 | Beuc_ | No idea anyone? All the tools in found only work on LCD (laptop) screens, not desktop CRT ones :/ |
| 17:35.28 | Beuc_ | Thanks.. |
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| 20:11.22 | jwest- | hi |
| 20:11.23 | jwest- | i have a serious booting problem ... quik and the infamous open firmware |
| 20:11.41 | jwest- | actually it won't boot...and i desperately need a file that is on that hd |
| 20:11.43 | jwest- | any hints |
| 20:14.47 | jwest- | hello |
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