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| 09:51.23 | mpathy | Hi there.. Burned the debian-testing-powerpc-netinst.iso to install debian on my Powerbook G3, but somewhere in the installation it hangs up, when loading sth. like binutils - somebody knows what could be the problem? |
| 09:58.06 | simonrvn | no, see #debian-boot, the mailing list (debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org), or use the sarge one and upgrade to etch after |
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| 10:31.14 | mpathy | debian-boot? |
| 10:31.27 | effraie | any french user here? |
| 10:32.44 | Corsac | yes |
| 10:37.16 | effraie | Corsac: quel carte clavier tu utilise? |
| 10:38.18 | mpathy | simonrvn: there is no debian-boot.. |
| 10:42.16 | Corsac | effraie: http://heracles.corsac.net/~corsac/debian/xorg.conf |
| 10:43.10 | effraie | hum.. |
| 10:43.27 | effraie | c'est le mapping par defaut de xkb? il fonctionne? |
| 10:44.03 | effraie | tu as les [| et autre{? |
| 10:47.01 | Corsac | comment ça par défaut ? |
| 10:47.04 | Corsac | et oui, il fonctionne |
| 10:47.14 | Corsac | mais après ça dépend aussi du mac que tu as |
| 10:49.03 | effraie | perso, j'ai un ibook, et j'utilise cette carte clavier pour avoir tt les caractéres spéciaux : http://bersace03.free.fr/pub/Linux/xkb-mac/ |
| 10:53.26 | Corsac | http://linuxfr.org/comments/753953.html#753953 |
| 10:55.08 | effraie | merci |
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| 11:50.01 | simonrvn | mpathy: oh might be on irc.oftc.net, sorry |
| 11:51.46 | mpathy | simonrvn: okay.. |
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| 12:47.37 | simonrvn | mpathy: usually you can do '/server irc.oftc.net' in your irc client; then '/join #debian-boot'; um, it just occured to me that they might've closed it, but i don't see why |
| 12:48.19 | mpathy | simonrvn: Because its perhaps to special to have a own channel? |
| 12:48.27 | mpathy | too |
| 12:49.43 | simonrvn | nah, too many people visiting that don't have a real booting issue question. |
| 13:30.49 | mpathy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:51.08 | patrik_mrx | i'm thinking of trying debian on my powerbook g4, from what i can see, valgrind is not part of stable. Is there any way of installing unstable packages in a stable debian? |
| 19:52.11 | patrik_mrx | anyone suggesting thaaat i should not use debian on my powwerbook, maybe because not all hardware is supported or something |
| 19:55.22 | pahartik | patrik_mrx: package sources from "stable", "testing" and "unstable" (and other) branches can be used at same time |
| 19:56.20 | patrik_mrx | is it much work to get that |
| 19:56.51 | patrik_mrx | <---- Never used debian |
| 19:57.33 | patrik_mrx | pahartik, it has to be the source code, no packages? |
| 20:00.24 | pahartik | patrik_mrx: one has to understand dependencies and deal with them... and set things properly in "/etc/apt/preferences" |
| 20:00.47 | patrik_mrx | and there is a guide for this? |
| 20:02.40 | pahartik | patrik_mrx: I use "http://pahartik.iki.fi/~pahartik/etc-apt-preferences" and "http://pahartik.iki.fi/~pahartik/etc-apt-sources.list" |
| 20:03.48 | pahartik | patrik_mrx: ...and choose between available package versions manually in "aptitude"... |
| 20:05.27 | pahartik | patrik_mrx: "http://www.nl.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html" is also useful document |
| 20:06.45 | patrik_mrx | from what i ccan understand from your etc-apt-preferences file, you have accesss to ALL packages in all branches |
| 20:06.49 | patrik_mrx | right? |
| 20:08.02 | patrik_mrx | pahartik, are you here alot, i will probably ask more about this when i've installed debian |
| 20:08.03 | pahartik | patrik_mrx: well, "woody" AKA "oldstable" is missing from that... |
| 20:08.25 | patrik_mrx | yeah, but besides that, am i right |
| 20:08.52 | pahartik | patrik_mrx: yes... |
| 20:09.12 | patrik_mrx | ok, then it does not seem that hard |
| 20:09.46 | patrik_mrx | anythiing i should wwatch out for when installing debian on my powerboook? |
| 20:11.27 | pahartik | patrik_mrx: I can say that it feels fairly easy to control after having used Debian for ~10 years :) |
| 20:12.04 | patrik_mrx | is it like everyone says, hard to get wlan to work on laptops? |
| 20:12.46 | pahartik | patrik_mrx: built-in modem is probably not supported... all features of frame buffer are not necessarily supported |
| 20:14.10 | pahartik | patrik_mrx: I do not know about 802.11, I chose Bluetooth for wireless LAN and other wireless communications |
| 20:15.14 | pahartik | patrik_mrx: latest Linux kernel of 2.6 series is recommended |
| 20:15.14 | patrik_mrx | if i have no wlan then i might as well leave mac os x installed asss is |
| 20:15.42 | patrik_mrx | everyone need a network connecction |
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| 20:17.53 | patrik_mrx | pahartik, is there any way you could find out for me if wlan works |
| 20:19.17 | patrik_mrx | and access to normal wlan, i need it both at home and at school |
| 20:20.15 | patrik_mrx | well, i guess you have a normal network connection asss well |
| 20:20.15 | pahartik | patrik_mrx: Airport adapters have worked for good while with Linux 2.6 kernel, Airport Extreme adapters supposedly work with latest Linux 2.6 kernel |
| 20:20.32 | patrik_mrx | i just havee the built in stuff |
| 20:21.49 | pahartik | patrik_mrx: I got rid of Airport Extreme adapter soon after buying iBook G4 two years ago, have no personal experience on using it |
| 20:22.40 | patrik_mrx | why did you geet rid of it |
| 20:23.17 | pahartik | patrik_mrx: yes, I have Ethernet and Bluetooth PAN access point in my cave |
| 20:23.34 | patrik_mrx | cave? |
| 20:26.14 | pahartik | patrik_mrx: I sold that Airport Extreme adapter because I was not interested in proprietary device that manufacturer did not want to support... (it was not possible ot buy iBook G4 without one anymore) |
| 20:29.11 | patrik_mrx | hmm, i did not geet one, bought my powerbook in noveember 2005 |
| 20:30.11 | patrik_mrx | well, i got my answers |
| 20:30.18 | patrik_mrx | pahartik, thx alot |
| 20:31.17 | patrik_mrx | just curious, from when is it not a oldworld macintosh? |
| 20:31.24 | pahartik | patrik_mrx: you are welcome, hopefully Linux works for you |
| 20:31.47 | patrik_mrx | hopefully |
| 20:32.06 | patrik_mrx | well, i like mac os x to but i miss things like valgrind and xvcg |
| 20:32.16 | pahartik | patrik_mrx: OldWorld hardware is... at least 5 years old by now |
| 20:32.41 | patrik_mrx | ok, then there is no chance i have an oldworld thingy |
| 20:33.09 | pahartik | patrik_mrx: colourful workstations are NewWorld, beige workstations are OldWorld (Usually) |
| 20:33.30 | patrik_mrx | i've never heard oldworld and/or newworld before |
| 20:33.31 | patrik_mrx | ok |
| 20:33.54 | patrik_mrx | so it's sort of those thinggs maade in rock... |
| 20:35.38 | patrik_mrx | thx again pahartik. now i must get some sleep so that i have strength too install ddebian tomorrow |
| 20:36.15 | patrik_mrx | later.... |
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