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| 08:53.21 | chimaera | hi |
| 08:55.32 | chimaera | i'm trying to build a new kernel but when runnning make-kpkg in goes through configur eand represents me a selection of machines w/o "apple". where can i tell configure this properly? |
| 08:58.04 | Corsac | you can configure it using make menuconfig |
| 08:58.18 | chimaera | this i tried, but i cannot find the option. |
| 08:58.19 | Corsac | you can also reuse a debian configuration (try to look in /boot/config*) |
| 08:58.31 | Corsac | well, you'll have to configure -all- your kernel |
| 08:59.00 | chimaera | i did this. |
| 08:59.34 | Corsac | if you don't really know how to configure the kernel, you really should reuse a debian configuration |
| 08:59.57 | Corsac | at least start from a debian config, then remove what don't suit you |
| 09:00.49 | Corsac | you can also use arch/powerpc/configs/pmac32_defconfig |
| 09:01.12 | chimaera | this isn't my teh first kernel i'm configuring and appoached it exactly that way: using the existant confi in /boot as base. |
| 09:01.45 | chimaera | for some reason something has changed (it's been a while) or i'm missing something. just don't know what. |
| 09:10.22 | chimaera | ok, the same happens if i use the stock-config. |
| 09:11.15 | Corsac | which kernel are you trying to use ? |
| 09:11.21 | Corsac | s/use/configure/ |
| 09:11.29 | Corsac | thanks apt |
| 09:11.33 | chimaera | ;) |
| 09:11.42 | chimaera | 2.6.18 |
| 09:12.04 | Corsac | hmh, i run debian 2.6.18 kernel and I configured one, which built fine |
| 09:12.08 | Corsac | on a powerbook g4 |
| 09:12.17 | chimaera | i'm always represented the platform selection where i'd have to choose PReP |
| 09:12.52 | chimaera | i also have a PB 12" (post feb05) |
| 09:12.59 | Corsac | hmhm, prep ? |
| 09:13.02 | Corsac | are you sure ? |
| 09:13.19 | Corsac | CONFIG_PPC_MULTIPLATFORM=y |
| 09:13.21 | Corsac | CONFIG_PPC_CHRP=y |
| 09:13.23 | Corsac | CONFIG_PPC_PMAC=y |
| 09:14.14 | chimaera | may i query you to post what configure's help sugggests? |
| 09:14.15 | Corsac | maybe PREP doesn't exist anymore |
| 09:14.17 | Corsac | ? |
| 09:15.03 | chimaera | i have those set alike. |
| 09:15.07 | Corsac | http://paste.debian.net/14044 |
| 09:16.31 | chimaera | this is what confuses me: http://paste.debian.net/14045 |
| 09:17.05 | chimaera | i thought i shouldn't configure as grep |
| 09:17.50 | Corsac | prep, you mean ? |
| 09:18.00 | Corsac | arch=ppc is deprecated, iirc |
| 09:18.10 | Corsac | and make-kpkg should use arch=powerpc |
| 09:19.18 | chimaera | yes, prep. i'm using "make-kpkg kernel-mage --revision=<date>" |
| 09:21.25 | Corsac | in the platform selection, which are the choices |
| 09:21.26 | Corsac | ? |
| 09:21.52 | chimaera | for machine type? |
| 09:22.06 | Corsac | [11:12:17] (chimaera): i'm always represented the platform selection where i'd |
| 09:22.09 | Corsac | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:23.04 | chimaera | http://paste.debian.net/14046 |
| 09:24.04 | Corsac | hmhm |
| 09:24.59 | Corsac | you really should use make menuconfig, go into Platform support, choose what you want and let the UI decide |
| 09:25.07 | Corsac | I don't really know about PREP/CHRP/... |
| 09:25.31 | Corsac | I can post my .config for vanilla 2.6.18 if you want |
| 09:26.27 | chimaera | well, i did set everything in platform support. as machine type i can select between geeric and embedded and that's about it. i can't find platform selection here |
| 09:26.58 | Corsac | i guess it's deprecated |
| 09:27.22 | Corsac | when you search for PREP in make menuconfig, it says that it's in Platform supprot |
| 09:27.26 | Corsac | but there is nothing |
| 09:27.36 | Corsac | I guess it's because it depends on other options, wich aren't set |
| 09:30.53 | chimaera | any chance that make-kpkg screws up by passing ARCH=ppc instead of ARCH=powerpc? |
| 09:31.37 | Corsac | maybe if you have an old version |
| 09:31.45 | Corsac | try ARCH=powerpc make-kpkg ? |
| 09:32.05 | Corsac | corsac@hidalgo: dpkg-architecture [~] |
| 09:32.08 | Corsac | DEB_BUILD_ARCH=powerpc |
| 09:32.52 | Corsac | kernel-package 10.059 |
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| 09:34.33 | chimaera | still have 9,00 |
| 09:35.59 | chimaera | i update and give it another shot |
| 09:36.35 | Corsac | yes, you really should |
| 09:36.38 | Corsac | you're running testing ? |
| 09:37.25 | chimaera | actually i'm, running ubuntu |
| 09:38.37 | chimaera | i used to run debian but i found teh spin-off a little more comfortable |
| 09:43.50 | Corsac | i can't help you on packages version though |
| 09:44.08 | Corsac | but you really should use linux-image packages |
| 09:46.15 | chimaera | i want support for my airport extreme, otherwise i'd stick with the stock kernel. anyway, i'm used to use custom kernels, just nver ran into such a prob for i'm not very familiar with linux on ppc. |
| 09:57.50 | Corsac | well, airport extreme is supported in 2.6.17+ |
| 09:58.11 | Corsac | and there are packages |
| 09:58.18 | Corsac | at least in debian testing/unstable |
| 09:58.24 | Corsac | don't know about ubuntu, though |
| 09:58.41 | Corsac | if you have an older kernel, you could use externally built modules, I guess |
| 10:01.05 | chimaera | jepp, but ubuntu is still at 2.6.12 for the stable release and i really think it's an kernel-package issue. |
| 10:08.34 | Corsac | use ARCH=powerpc make-kpkg |
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| 10:20.30 | _chis | changing the appropriate line in /usr/share/kernel-package/rules from ppc to powerpc seems to do the trick |
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| 19:35.03 | yang | I am wondering about the support for apple Macintosh LC II (older model) |
| 19:35.27 | Bor_Ed | those are m68k macs |
| 19:35.39 | Bor_Ed | supported more or less by debian/m68k |
| 20:01.41 | karim | hi |
| 20:01.50 | karim | are there firefox altivec optimised debs ? |
| 20:21.27 | pahartik | karim: probably not... what is there in talking to HTTP server and parsing HTML content that can be helped by vectorization? |
| 20:22.00 | karim | pahartik, jpeg image display |
| 20:22.04 | Q-FUNK | LC II is 6505, no m68k. |
| 20:22.12 | karim | I don't know if firefox uses libs for that |
| 20:23.11 | pahartik | karim: "ldd /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin" |
| 20:24.15 | karim | pahartik, I see only something realted to png |
| 20:24.54 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: all Macintoshes before PowerPC architecture were m68k architecture |
| 20:25.15 | pahartik | karim: "libjpeg.so.62" |
| 20:27.31 | Q-FUNK | no |
| 20:27.45 | Q-FUNK | he talekd about LC II |
| 20:29.38 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: I know Macintosh LC I, LC II, LC III... and later models of LC series... |
| 20:38.12 | wcstok | http://www.lowendmac.com/lc/lcii.shtml |
| 20:42.33 | karim | does anyone manage to have aiglx working ? |
| 20:42.43 | karim | or is it simply feasible at all ? |
| 20:47.40 | yang | Bor_Ed: well the website that lists mac supported hardware is down (sf.net) |
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