| 00:03.58 | dondelelcaro | mango: why don't you just boot off of the installation media, mount the root disk, and change the password? |
| 00:08.27 | mango | DONDELECARO:My cdrom does not work |
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| 00:24.25 | mango | he guys, I am really stuck. I can see the disk on my debian system as usb0 but it can not determin the file system. |
| 00:24.51 | dondelelcaro | mango: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58583 |
| 00:27.51 | mango | dondelecro: it says on the website that the Host computers must have Mac OS 8.6 or later,but I am running linux on both machine |
| 00:29.16 | pahartik | mango: AFAIK there is also way to enter "IEEE-1394 target disk mode" interactively from OpenFirmware console... |
| 00:30.53 | mango | could send me a link to the website please. also what is the T key....please does it correspond to the letter t key or shift & t |
| 00:30.54 | mango | ? |
| 00:31.17 | pahartik | mango: just key with label "T" |
| 00:32.26 | mango | ok, I do not get any thing when I press that key,,, could it be because I need to boot the firmware manualy? is that right |
| 00:32.27 | mango | ? |
| 00:33.54 | pahartik | mango: I assume that holding down <T> did not work because boot sequence is that defined by "yaboot"... |
| 00:35.34 | pahartik | mango: what if you type "target-disk-mode" at OpenFirmware prompt? |
| 00:36.01 | mango | how can I do that please....this is the first time I am using this machine and I am not a goody on linux either. |
| 00:36.12 | mango | ok |
| 00:37.09 | pahartik | mango: <Command>-<Option>-<O>-<F> to get into interactive OpenFirmware prompt instead of booting |
| 00:38.04 | mango | is the option key is the one with the apple logo on it |
| 00:38.05 | mango | ? |
| 00:38.44 | mango | I am sorry, I dont't understant the above |
| 00:38.51 | mango | are they keys or commands |
| 00:39.56 | mango | if commands,, what command can I write |
| 00:39.59 | mango | ? |
| 00:40.20 | pahartik | mango: <Command> is located by sides of <Space>... <Option> is located between <Command> and <Ctrl> |
| 00:40.36 | mango | ok |
| 00:41.59 | mango | I got it yeah |
| 00:43.13 | mango | target-disk-mode =>> unknow word |
| 00:43.27 | mango | that was the error I got |
| 00:44.45 | pahartik | mango: I am trying to find document about it... |
| 00:45.02 | mango | ok, I can wait |
| 00:49.01 | dondelelcaro | mango: it doesn't matter; that's documenting the actual hardware options. |
| 00:49.42 | pahartik | mango: how about "target-mode"? |
| 00:50.34 | mango | let me try |
| 00:51.10 | pahartik | mango: oh, now I also found reference to it from "http://forums.macosxhints.com/showthread.php?t=13134" |
| 00:53.33 | mango | man, that worked, thanks a lot for your help you are great |
| 00:53.41 | mango | You made me so happy |
| 00:54.07 | mango | thank you once again for the any inconvinience |
| 00:54.13 | mango | bye |
| 00:54.24 | mango | 8-) |
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| 00:56.22 | pahartik | dondelelcaro: I just wonder about what "mango" meant by "I can see the disk on my debian system as usb0 but it can not determin the file system."... |
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| 01:00.37 | pahartik | dondelelcaro: that just did not make sense at all... |
| 01:04.28 | dondelelcaro | pahartik: well, not in the context of what he was doing; but if you consider that he may not have had support for macintosh partition types, it makes more sense. |
| 01:07.17 | pahartik | dondelelcaro: well, but, what is "usb0"? |
| 01:17.45 | pahartik | dondelelcaro: maybe just string that showed up in "dmesg" and made "mango" think that it is somehow related |
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| 01:22.46 | pahartik | mango: welcome back |
| 01:23.05 | mango | pahartik: I am back, I tough i a gonna do it with no hasle using the chroot password. well it did not work... you coud u please finish your favor I would be gratful? |
| 01:23.49 | pahartik | mango: what are you doing now? |
| 01:24.08 | mango | well, I can see all partitions on my doesktop |
| 01:24.20 | mango | I went to the command prompt as root |
| 01:24.43 | pahartik | mango: that sounds good |
| 01:24.48 | mango | i have 5 separate partitions |
| 01:25.16 | mango | The root partition is loaded on to /media/_ |
| 01:25.42 | mango | so, I cd s to that partiotion and tried to chroot to it but did not work |
| 01:25.54 | mango | May be the way I used tha command |
| 01:26.03 | mango | what do you suggest |
| 01:26.06 | mango | please? |
| 01:27.32 | pahartik | mango: you did "mount" it with superuser privileges and tried "chroot" with superuser privileges? |
| 01:28.08 | mango | it actualy came automaticaly, I guess was hotplug |
| 01:28.24 | mango | di you think I should umount it first |
| 01:28.25 | mango | ? |
| 01:29.06 | pahartik | mango: is that workstation same or different architecture? |
| 01:30.23 | mango | the host computer is a pc |
| 01:30.33 | mango | the target is mac g4 ofcourse |
| 01:30.50 | mango | both are using debian etch |
| 01:31.12 | pahartik | mango: oh, wintel architecture... "chroot" would not work easily... |
| 01:31.20 | mango | ok |
| 01:31.56 | mango | I check the chroot man page could not find very much to play with |
| 01:31.57 | pahartik | mango: you remember password of your user self? |
| 01:32.16 | mango | do you mean the normal use |
| 01:32.17 | mango | r |
| 01:32.21 | mango | yes |
| 01:33.38 | pahartik | mango: since "sudo" is installed (if I recall correctly), but not configured, maybe you could just simply edit "/etc/sudoers" to get root access again through it |
| 01:34.21 | mango | good idea |
| 01:34.24 | mango | man |
| 01:35.01 | mango | now, once I change the sudoers file would I be able to change root passwd |
| 01:35.22 | pahartik | mango: when creating new users, Debian creates group by same name by default, for every user |
| 01:35.41 | mango | ok |
| 01:36.00 | mango | I can not see your point |
| 01:38.17 | mango | I ammended the sudoeers file and added a user with all priveleges given to it. |
| 01:38.22 | mango | is that fine |
| 01:38.50 | pahartik | mango: open "/etc/sudoers" of that target root filesystem and add entry to that file... something like "%<group> ALL=(ALL) ALL", but replacing "<group>" by group of that user, for example |
| 01:39.56 | mango | if the user group name is mango I would add %mango ALL... |
| 01:40.00 | pahartik | mango: after that, "sudo" should just ask your user password when executing something with superuser privileges... |
| 01:40.00 | mango | right |
| 01:40.04 | mango | > |
| 01:40.06 | mango | ? |
| 01:40.44 | mango | done |
| 01:40.45 | pahartik | mango: "%mango ALL=(ALL) ALL" should work |
| 01:40.53 | mango | done |
| 01:41.00 | mango | do I need to fsck the hhd |
| 01:41.10 | mango | before I umount it |
| 01:42.07 | pahartik | mango: one should never run "fsck" before "umount" of read/write mounted filesystem... |
| 01:42.17 | mango | ok |
| 01:42.32 | mango | should I do that now? |
| 01:42.46 | pahartik | mango: and even run it afterwards only if it was unmounted somehow unexpectedly |
| 01:43.03 | mango | fine |
| 01:43.40 | mango | Is it possible to umount it and test it |
| 01:45.49 | pahartik | mango: sure, "umount" after writing changes to "/etc/sudoers" and before detaching device... if "fsck" is wanted, it can be performed... |
| 01:47.23 | mango | I can not umount the root file system device buzy |
| 01:48.00 | mango | okkok it is done |
| 01:49.24 | mango | pahartik: can I just turn mac off |
| 01:49.26 | mango | ? |
| 01:50.00 | pahartik | mango: close files opened on that filesystem... including moving (as in "cd") possibly open shells to somewhere else |
| 01:50.38 | mango | the file system is umounted |
| 01:50.46 | mango | how about the mac? |
| 01:50.52 | mango | do I shut is down |
| 01:51.26 | mango | it still shows some firewire sign and some jibrish |
| 01:51.28 | pahartik | mango: power button can be used on PowerBook... |
| 01:51.46 | mango | cool |
| 01:56.36 | mango | pahartik: you are gonna laugh, I have changed the sudoers file on my pc |
| 01:56.37 | pahartik | mango: something you said before left me wondering... |
| 01:56.38 | mango | hahahaha |
| 01:56.47 | mango | what was it |
| 01:57.11 | mango | ? |
| 01:57.38 | pahartik | mango: what did you mean by "I can see the disk on my debian system as usb0 but it can not determin the file system."? |
| 01:58.23 | pahartik | mango: "usb0" in this case is... what? |
| 01:58.44 | mango | I can see usb0 still on my computer but does not let me access it... |
| 01:59.03 | mango | and when the cable is unplug it still shows |
| 01:59.21 | mango | I am not sure if it correspond to the wirefire cable |
| 01:59.53 | mango | one more time to ask please |
| 01:59.53 | mango | could you please give that command again |
| 02:00.00 | mango | so I can put the firmware into to mode .. |
| 02:00.15 | mango | was it install-mode |
| 02:00.20 | mango | can not remember |
| 02:00.57 | mango | or target-disk |
| 02:01.21 | pahartik | mango: I doubt "usb0" has got anything to do with any block device, or any IEEE-1394 device... |
| 02:01.32 | mango | ok |
| 02:01.39 | mango | I think so |
| 02:01.44 | pahartik | mango: "target-mode"... |
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| 02:02.07 | mango | thanks |
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| 02:08.36 | pahartik | mango: you are welcome |
| 02:13.03 | mango | pahartik: It woooooooooorked thanks god |
| 02:13.15 | mango | thank you pahartik, that was fun |
| 02:13.21 | mango | I am loving it |
| 02:13.35 | mango | now i can go to sllep |
| 02:13.46 | mango | bye this time for real |
| 02:13.55 | mango | ;) |
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| 17:09.29 | Q-FUNK | 2.6.19 |
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| 19:41.51 | Q-FUNK | :) |
| 19:42.59 | pahartik | hello Q-FUNK |
| 19:43.12 | Q-FUNK | hello pahartik |
| 19:43.27 | Bor_Ed | go kväll |
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| 19:46.23 | Bor_Ed | hmm... |
| 19:48.06 | Q-FUNK | ah yes... and we have until january to get a digi-tv tuner? |
| 19:48.45 | Bor_Ed | until september |
| 19:49.14 | Bor_Ed | 30.8 is the last broadcast day on land... cable drops later on most operators and way sooner on this one |
| 19:49.40 | Q-FUNK | ah, so one year later than expected? |
| 19:51.38 | Bor_Ed | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:53.45 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: 2007-09-01 is first day without national analog television broadcast network |
| 19:55.02 | Q-FUNK | ok |
| 20:01.19 | pahartik | Q-FUNK: I have been without analog television broadcast for almost 3 years (with DVB-T and DVB-C)... but I expect DVB-H to be decent replacement for DAB that was shut down about 18 moons ago |
| 20:08.19 | chrisa | urgh, my laptop is having a problem loading particular sites again. Last time this happened someone mentioned a kernel config that was responsible for it but that was over a year ago |
| 20:08.23 | chrisa | Damned if I can rememebr |
| 20:08.25 | chrisa | *remember |
| 20:08.55 | chrisa | Other systems on the same network can access them, osx can access them, but firefox/wget/etc in linux time out |
| 20:30.01 | pahartik | chrisa: URL? |
| 20:30.22 | chrisa | www.ureg.ohio-state.edu is a good one |
| 20:30.54 | pahartik | chrisa: I can imagine it could be some "congestion notification" related |
| 20:31.05 | pahartik | chrisa: that does not look like URL to me |
| 20:31.56 | chrisa | If I recall last time, it was related to their network supposedly, not the content it self |
| 20:31.59 | chrisa | But it has been quite a while |
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