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| 10:55.49 | Bor_Ed | anyone here use ekiga? I have troubles getting the webcam to work as user in it... cam works on xawtv but ekiga whines 'can't open device' or such, works as sudo though |
| 11:01.17 | Bor_Ed | hrm, 'could not open chosen channel' as the message |
| 11:01.58 | Bor_Ed | nm, found it grmbl |
| 11:18.37 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: You have WCDMA terminal device? |
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| 12:26.42 | teclo- | afternoon people. I've just installed Debian GNU/Linux etch on a Power Macintosh G3 MiniTower, but when it tried to install quik, it complained the partition was not ext2. I rebooted the machine, but now I get the floppy with a question mark in it... I hope I didn't kill my Power Macintosh G3 MiniTower ... :/ |
| 12:44.12 | pahartik | teclo-: If it is OldWorld PowerMacintosh, use install media of traditional MacOS to boot and try again |
| 12:49.33 | teclo- | pahartik: boot on the macos install CD ? But then what ? |
| 12:50.34 | teclo- | pahartik: I mean, how can I get the machine to boot into MacOS again ? |
| 12:56.16 | pahartik | teclo-: MacOS install media is bootable |
| 12:56.43 | teclo- | pahartik: yes but :) |
| 12:57.05 | teclo- | pahartik: I have a MacOS (HFS) bootable partition on the machine |
| 12:57.17 | teclo- | how can I make it bootable again after I have booted the MacOS cdrom ? |
| 13:01.54 | pahartik | teclo-: Install Debian GNU/Linux again, with better options |
| 13:02.57 | teclo- | pahartik: Yes but... for the fourth time... How can I make the MacOS 9 partition bootable again ? |
| 13:14.46 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: as in 3g phone? |
| 13:18.42 | pahartik | teclo-: MacOS requires driver partitions and blessed system folder |
| 13:19.46 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: I just got WCDMA device few days ago |
| 13:20.10 | Bor_Ed | I've had one for almost an year |
| 13:20.28 | Bor_Ed | sonyericsson k600i |
| 13:20.46 | teclo- | pahartik: yeah but, after I have booted on the MacOS 9 CD, how can I make the MacOS partition bootable again ? (for the fifth time) |
| 13:23.15 | pahartik | teclo-: By installing MacOS, unless you really know details closely |
| 13:23.41 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: toyed yet with video calls etc? :) |
| 13:24.19 | teclo- | pahartik: so the only solution to my problem is to reinstall all of MacOS 9 and then reinstall all of Debian GNU/Linux ? |
| 13:25.45 | pahartik | teclo-: Oh yes |
| 13:27.29 | teclo- | pahartik: Then sorry but, this sucks ! |
| 13:27.48 | teclo- | pahartik: And then how can I, in the future, prevent the Debian installer to kill my bootable MacOS partition ? |
| 13:29.31 | teclo- | :s/to kill/from killing/ |
| 13:29.33 | teclo- | me foreign, or something |
| 13:31.41 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: Only tried data transfer over Bluetooth 2.0 so far... |
| 13:32.13 | Bor_Ed | I use data all the time on the move and video calls every now and then |
| 13:33.22 | pahartik | teclo-: By not touching existing partitions when installing Debian GNU/Linux after traditional MacOS |
| 13:36.20 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: I like still image camera as bonus feature... but I would have bought same device even if it had no colour screen and camera |
| 13:37.00 | Bor_Ed | I didn't need the camera either, video call cam was nice to have though... family lives in tampere and we're in vaasa |
| 13:38.31 | teclo- | pahartik: I didn't touch anything ! At the end of the install, the installer installed quik ! |
| 13:39.02 | Bor_Ed | mockos prolly will boot from OF prompt |
| 13:39.29 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: I plan to send still image greetings to parents and brother... over internet |
| 13:39.51 | Bor_Ed | I tend to do video calls to sis via wcdma phone |
| 13:42.42 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: My WCDMA terminal device is Nokia 6151 (by the way) |
| 13:43.05 | Bor_Ed | I see... got cell carrier deal or bought the thingy? |
| 13:46.22 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: No operator deal, paid for it at store |
| 13:46.55 | Bor_Ed | cheaper to get that way... I paid the phone too directly when I got it |
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| 14:20.43 | teclo- | is it possible to do the etch install in expert mode ? So that I tell the installer *not* to install quik... Perhaps with "expert" in the parameters in BootX ? |
| 14:21.14 | Bor_Ed | at least was possible in sarge |
| 14:25.30 | teclo- | cuz hm |
| 14:25.41 | teclo- | the etch installer "automatically" "installed quik" |
| 14:25.48 | teclo- | which resulted in an unbootable system :( |
| 14:26.04 | Bor_Ed | it will boot unless you broke the original partitions from OF |
| 14:26.17 | Bor_Ed | just try to zap pram as a starter |
| 14:26.25 | teclo- | I tried alt-apple-p-r |
| 14:26.27 | teclo- | didn't help |
| 14:26.51 | Bor_Ed | then the drivers or macos partition are corrupted by some way |
| 14:27.09 | teclo- | I'm reinstalling 9.2.2 from scratch |
| 14:27.33 | teclo- | on another hard drive though |
| 15:06.10 | teclo- | ok |
| 15:06.13 | teclo- | now reinstalling Etch |
| 15:06.36 | teclo- | I keep my finger crossed... let's just hope that quik will not kill the MacOS install |
| 15:51.28 | Bor_Ed | quik doesn't even touch macos partitions |
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| 16:01.56 | teclo- | oh yeah ? |
| 16:02.02 | teclo- | so why is my mac unbootable now ? |
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| 16:20.58 | teclo- | FUCK ! |
| 16:21.10 | teclo- | Installing Debian GNU/Linux "etch" on this Power Macintosh G3 MiniTower makes it unbootable ! |
| 16:21.15 | teclo- | Tried twice already ! |
| 16:21.17 | teclo- | And everytime the machine shows the floppy with the question mark ! |
| 16:21.20 | teclo- | FUCK ! |
| 16:22.09 | Bor_Ed | that's etch for you... |
| 16:22.16 | Bor_Ed | time to try with sarge? |
| 16:22.31 | teclo- | sarge does not boot at all on this machine |
| 16:24.05 | Bor_Ed | weird... I installed sarge to beige g3 desktop and instantly upgraded to sid... been using the thingy for 4-5 years now without probs |
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| 17:40.52 | teclo- | ok found something |
| 17:40.56 | teclo- | I started on the MacOS cd |
| 17:40.58 | teclo- | and went into "Outil Disque Dur" |
| 17:41.01 | teclo- | and chose "Mise à jour" in the menu |
| 17:41.03 | teclo- | then rebooted |
| 17:41.06 | teclo- | now I can boot into MacOS 9 :) |
| 17:41.12 | teclo- | but.... |
| 17:41.17 | teclo- | It seems booting into Linux fails |
| 17:41.21 | teclo- | I've put the right root partition (/dev/hda9) in BootX |
| 17:41.26 | teclo- | but the kernel starts, and then I always get cannot mount root device "hda9" |
| 17:45.17 | Bor_Ed | boot with the initrd |
| 19:15.35 | teclo- | with the initrd ? and root=/dev/hda9 ? |
| 19:15.46 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 19:19.05 | teclo- | thanks |
| 19:19.07 | teclo- | gonna try that |
| 19:19.31 | Bor_Ed | hmm, you have 2.6.8 or older kernel? |
| 19:25.53 | teclo- | hm |
| 19:26.02 | teclo- | it brings me back into the installer, if I use the initrd.gz |
| 19:26.21 | Bor_Ed | you need to use the initrd from the installed partition |
| 19:26.58 | teclo- | hhmmm right |
| 19:27.10 | teclo- | and how can I do that since I can't mount the partition from MacOS ? |
| 19:27.34 | Bor_Ed | I copied the initrd and kernel from installed partition to my lan server and from there to bootx folder |
| 19:28.08 | Bor_Ed | there probably are easier ways too but it worked for me |
| 19:28.18 | teclo- | yes but |
| 19:28.33 | teclo- | how can I mount the ext3 partition ? |
| 19:28.51 | Bor_Ed | you really can't |
| 19:29.05 | Bor_Ed | easier to mount hfs+ from linux side |
| 19:29.15 | teclo- | yeah but |
| 19:29.18 | teclo- | I cannot boot into Linux |
| 19:30.10 | Bor_Ed | hmm, use the installer and chroot to installed partition then |
| 19:36.03 | teclo- | hmm ah yeah |
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