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| 00:27.32 | dnbkid | yeah |
| 00:27.44 | dnbkid | I'm a student at rockford college actually |
| 00:28.00 | dnbkid | never heard of the group though |
| 00:28.13 | dnbkid | I'll try to make it to the next one though |
| 00:28.19 | dnbkid | opps |
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| 17:49.55 | vasi | hi, anybody around? |
| 17:50.18 | vasi | i'm hoping someone can help me figure out if there's a way to sleep on my Quicksilver G4 |
| 17:50.28 | vasi | (dmesg reports the PMU is Core99) |
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| 17:51.19 | johill | suspend to disk should work, and to ram possibly too on core99 |
| 17:51.39 | DarkSol | i have a quick question if anyone can spare a few secs. |
| 17:51.57 | vasi | to suspend to disk i just echo -n disk > /sys/power/state , right? |
| 17:52.27 | vasi | i'm not really sure how to attempt to suspend to ram, echoing mem or using pbbcmd sleep don't seem to do anything |
| 17:52.37 | johill | yeah |
| 17:52.49 | johill | pbbcmd sleep should work but it might not if it isn't supported |
| 17:53.00 | johill | echoing mem doesn't do a thing unless you apply a bunch of patches first ;) |
| 17:53.51 | vasi | is sleep likely to work on desktop macs at all? |
| 17:53.51 | DarkSol | is there anyway to test my ram in debian? all i found online was a memtest for x86 systems? i think one of my RAM modules (if not all of them) is corrupt. |
| 17:54.07 | johill | vasi: I'm not really sure |
| 17:55.38 | vasi | DarkSol, this isn't really a linux answer, but there's a version of memtest for OS X |
| 17:55.39 | vasi | johill, hmm...i shall play around a bit more, see if i can accomplish anything |
| 17:55.39 | DarkSol | hmmm is it possible to make a bootable image of that and try that on my debian box, vasi? |
| 17:55.40 | johill | vasi: pbbcmd should work if it does in fact invoke the pmu ioctl |
| 17:55.40 | johill | and if it's supported |
| 17:55.59 | vasi | yeah, lemme try suspend to disk first and see what happens...it didn't work before, but i think that might have been because of my graphics card |
| 17:56.09 | johill | vasi: did you compile your kernel yourself? |
| 17:56.16 | johill | oh yeah that graphics card does it have? |
| 17:56.24 | vasi | johill, atm i'm using a standard debian kernel |
| 17:56.26 | DarkSol | sorry for my noob questions... im just really starting out on debian and linux. |
| 17:56.51 | johill | vasi: ok, if you'd compiled yourself I could point you to my patch series that fixes a bunch of suspend things and also gives you echo mem > /sys/power/state |
| 17:56.52 | vasi | johill, graphics card is Nvidia GeForce 2MX |
| 17:57.17 | vasi | johill, i think i saw those while googling...i've compiled my own kernels before, so i'll give it a shot |
| 17:57.28 | johill | hm, I have some geforce in my quad g5 and it suspends (to disk) fine |
| 17:57.38 | johill | vasi: http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/patches/powerpc-suspend-7/ |
| 17:58.17 | johill | but you only need 003 (maybe), 004, 007, 008, 009, 010, and 011 |
| 17:58.49 | vasi | will those likely help with to-disk? or only to-ram? |
| 18:00.25 | johill | fixes a slight bug with to disk as well, but that bug shouldn't hurt you unless you suspend while playing video |
| 18:00.35 | johill | and even then chances are small |
| 18:00.38 | johill | of hitting the bug I mean |
| 18:01.44 | vasi | ooh i'm using nvidiafb, maybe that's the problem? i remember seeing something on a list about it |
| 18:03.36 | vasi | sig11 :-( |
| 18:03.54 | vasi | "Unable to handle kernel paging request for data at address 0x0000000" |
| 18:04.32 | vasi | in resume_device+0xa0/0xe4 |
| 18:08.11 | johill | doesn't help |
| 18:08.19 | johill | take a picture and upload it somewhere |
| 18:13.17 | vasi | gotcha |
| 18:20.29 | DarkSol | if xfce4 loads up to a blank screen, what's the best way to kill it and get back to the terminal? |
| 18:25.42 | vasi | DarkSol, hit control-alt-f1 to get to a console |
| 18:25.44 | vasi | (usually) |
| 18:26.05 | DarkSol | i just did ctrl-alt-bkspc |
| 18:26.09 | DarkSol | that did it too |
| 18:26.31 | DarkSol | so does this mean i need to apt-get install xfce4 again since apparently something is broken big time? |
| 18:39.24 | vasi | DarkSol, i doubt that will help |
| 18:39.40 | vasi | you should maybe read /var/log/xorg.log and see what it says |
| 18:39.59 | vasi | johill, here's a photo: http://vasi.dyndns.org:3128/oops.jpg |
| 18:40.19 | vasi | (sorry it took so long to get that to you, i needed to find a way to stabilize the camera) |
| 18:40.47 | vasi | "sungem" is my ethernet port, i'll try disabling that module |
| 18:43.24 | DarkSol | vasi: ok |
| 19:06.44 | johill | vasi: yeah I know what sungem is ;) |
| 19:07.25 | johill | that's odd, I'll have to look at the code and maybe talk to benh |
| 19:07.25 | johill | can you keep the picture up for a while? |
| 19:09.31 | johill | vasi: I'd appreicate if you could test 2.6.20, I never saw that bug |
| 19:10.38 | vasi | johill, i can keep the pic up as long as you need |
| 19:11.08 | vasi | i'll test 2.6.20, but first i'd like to try without sungem....and i can't figure out how to disable it from loading automagically |
| 19:11.13 | vasi | any advice? |
| 19:11.17 | johill | just rmmod it before suspending |
| 19:12.41 | vasi | ah, if that'll do it then great :-) |
| 19:13.33 | vasi | it doesn't matter that it will load on the wakeup? |
| 19:14.05 | vasi | (er, before the wakeup technically...you know what i mean, right?) |
| 19:14.50 | vasi | yuck, now it fails while resuming usbcore...will try the newer kernel |
| 19:15.07 | vasi | should i use a vanilla kernel, or is there a newer debian one? |
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| 19:23.28 | johill | no it won't load before wakeup |
| 19:23.46 | johill | use vanilla I guess, there's no newer debian |
| 19:23.48 | johill | should work |
| 19:26.19 | vasi | johill: after i suspend-to-disk, when i start up again....i DO see the sungem loading message before the resume starts happening |
| 19:27.36 | johill | oh but then you have sungem built in I guess |
| 19:27.45 | johill | or you resume from initrd and debian loads that before? |
| 19:27.48 | vasi | not built in, it's a module |
| 19:29.10 | vasi | lemme check if it's in the initrd |
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| 19:30.51 | vasi | hmph...it is in the initrd, is there anyway to prevent it loading without rebuilding the initrd? |
| 19:31.52 | vasi | sorry for being such a newb :-/ |
| 19:32.20 | DelTree | doesn't rmmod work ? |
| 19:32.57 | vasi | DelTree: rmmod removes it, but doesn't prevent it from loading when i try to resume from suspend |
| 19:33.03 | vasi | (to disk) |
| 19:33.27 | johill | vasi: the bug is in the restored kernel |
| 19:33.39 | johill | so if you had it rmmod'ed then there won't be sungem in that kernel |
| 19:33.54 | vasi | ok then...on to build 2.6.20.1 |
| 19:34.18 | johill | maybe try w/o sungem on your current one first |
| 19:35.22 | DarkSol | vasl: i dont have that log file that you mentioned, but i looked in my xdm.log and i got a bunch of errors like it's missing files |
| 19:35.25 | vasi | johill, i already did |
| 19:35.43 | vasi | <vasi> yuck, now it fails while resuming usbcore...will try the newer kernel |
| 19:36.32 | vasi | DarkSol: maybe paste your log? http://www.rafb.net/paste/ |
| 19:37.00 | DarkSol | i cant... my linux box isnt hooked up to my internet (id have to disconnect this machine) |
| 19:37.31 | vasi | yuck, you need a router :-/ |
| 19:37.34 | DarkSol | and i have to run in a few seconds |
| 19:37.52 | DarkSol | Well, i was making my linux box into a router until it got messed up |
| 19:38.42 | DarkSol | as soon as I get back to class, vasi... ill try to get you a copy of the log somehow |
| 19:39.46 | DarkSol | thanks for the advice though |
| 19:40.02 | vasi | np |
| 19:40.43 | DarkSol | the reason why i asked about the ram earlier, is because a couple of friends suspect the ram i had installed in my box had corrupted a lot of files... |
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| 19:50.02 | johill | vasi: sorry was reading other stuff must have missed that |
| 20:26.49 | Corsac | johill: \o/ |
| 20:27.04 | johill | hey |
| 21:37.28 | DarkSol | if i apt-get remove a package that's been corrupted... would it be fixed if i apt-get install it after removing it? |
| 22:18.35 | vasi | DarkSol, there's a '--reinstall' option to apt-get that you can use |
| 22:18.49 | vasi | eg: 'apt-get --reinstall install foo' will re-download foo and install the new copy |
| 22:18.56 | DarkSol | hmmm |
| 22:18.58 | DarkSol | thanks |
| 22:19.07 | DarkSol | im going to have to try that in a bit |
| 22:19.28 | DarkSol | it just sucks that this ram corrupted so many files |
| 22:20.01 | vasi | johill, suspend-to-disk doesn't seem to work at all on 2.6.20.1.... |
| 22:20.06 | vasi | i just get "Stopping tasks ... done", "Shrinking memory... done (0 pages freed)", "Freed 0 kbytes in 0.07 seconds (0.00 MB/s)" |
| 22:20.23 | vasi | and then "Suspending console(s)", and that's the last thing that appears |
| 22:22.02 | vasi | the box is still humming, isn't actually shut down or anything :-/ |
| 22:22.03 | johill | sec |
| 22:22.06 | vasi | k |
| 22:23.13 | johill | vasi: umm, that's Linus's thingie that turns off the console |
| 22:23.13 | johill | disable it |
| 22:23.14 | johill | CONFIG_DISABLE_CONSOLE_SUSPEND |
| 22:23.14 | johill | set that to y |
| 22:23.18 | vasi | okily doke |
| 22:23.37 | johill | but it probably crashes elsewhere if it doesn't turn off... well with that turned to y we'll see where |
| 22:23.49 | vasi | yep |
| 22:25.38 | johill | vasi: what box exactly is this? |
| 22:25.54 | vasi | Quicksilver G4/733 |
| 22:25.54 | johill | cat /proc/device-tree/model |
| 22:26.12 | DarkSol | i have a really neato B&W G3 |
| 22:26.13 | vasi | PowerMac3,5 |
| 22:26.46 | johill | tx |
| 22:31.15 | vasi | i don't seem to have that config key...do i need a patch? |
| 22:31.35 | vasi | or just add it? |
| 22:32.37 | johill | no, it should be somewhere in menuconfig |
| 22:32.44 | johill | hit / and enter a search term |
| 22:32.52 | johill | maybe it's only visible if you enable experimental options |
| 22:35.51 | vasi | ah, i needed "debug powermanagement" |
| 22:38.05 | DarkSol | hey vasi... im going to try that now... ill come back online and tell you how it goes.. |
| 22:39.37 | vasi | johill, i'm going to have to go before this is finished building...should i come back here later? email you the results? ... |
| 22:41.06 | johill | put up a picture of the oops and mail it to me |
| 22:41.11 | johill | or mail it I mean |
| 22:41.22 | johill | it's almost midnight here so I won't have time to look today |
| 22:42.00 | vasi | thanks again for all the help, you've been wonderful |
| 22:42.54 | johill | np, let me know of the results, not sure when I'll be on during the next few days though |
| 22:43.12 | johill | but my irc always runs so if you say something that contains my nick it's mailed to me ;) |
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| 23:18.11 | niktaris | Ok. sorry for the stupid question but I am gettting frustrated here. I am trying to build a custom kernel for a pegasos ppc. So I downloaded the 2.6.18 via apt uncompressed the source and gave "make-kpkg --subarch=pmac " after ofcource dealing with .config. The kernel builds ok but when I try to install it it stops at mkvmlinuz. |
| 23:18.21 | niktaris | Am I doing something wrong here or what |
| 23:18.34 | niktaris | ? |
