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| 00:04.55 | cchan | should I be able to use a Ralink wireless USB dongle for netinst? |
| 00:07.14 | cchan | I have an iMac with apparently a dead NIC. |
| 00:21.28 | cchan | only snags - I'd need to find an SSID and enter a WEP key. |
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| 12:19.34 | teclo- | Folks I have a problem |
| 12:19.38 | teclo- | bah |
| 12:32.33 | pahartik | Hello teclo- |
| 12:37.26 | teclo- | sorry wrong channel |
| 12:37.28 | teclo- | heh |
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| 15:49.29 | drwahl | i hate you |
| 15:49.31 | drwahl | oopas |
| 15:49.36 | drwahl | im trying to install debian on an old mac (performa 6500), and I want to install something newer (nothing older than sarge), but when i try to do a net install it asks for rescue.bin. any ideas? |
| 16:22.55 | simonrvn | stop using ancient floppy images? |
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| 17:29.15 | pbn | Hi I have a weird problem booting Debian 4.0 on a Workgroup Server 8550/200 |
| 17:29.56 | pbn | I type root=/dev/sda10 in BootX |
| 17:30.09 | pbn | and then I get VFS: Cannot open root device "sda10" or unknown-block(0,0) |
| 17:30.23 | pbn | well there's some wierd charachter |
| 17:30.26 | pbn | s*da10 |
| 17:33.53 | simonrvn | make sure you're not introducing odd non-printing chars. that text box doesn't do delete, only backspace, for instance |
| 17:34.30 | simonrvn | also, looks like you need an initrd, unless it's just that char screwing it up |
| 17:37.15 | pbn | hm ok |
| 17:37.18 | pbn | gonna check that |
| 17:37.43 | pbn | gonna check that tomorrow, thank you :) |
| 17:37.48 | pbn | but it's weird |
| 17:38.16 | pbn | I'm kinda sure I didn't type odd charachters |
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| 19:25.55 | cchan | simonrvn: ping |
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| 19:26.12 | cchan | Should I be able to do netinstall with a wifi USB adapter? |
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| 20:45.39 | pbn | cchan: wifi usb adapter on what machine ? |
| 20:46.03 | cchan | iMac slot load 500MHz |
| 20:46.12 | cchan | Belkin F5D7050 |
| 20:46.25 | cchan | Ralink chipset |
| 20:46.30 | pbn | it all depends if the USB wifi adapter is supported |
| 20:46.48 | pbn | I know my USB wifi adapter on peecee is supported |
| 20:48.28 | pbn | it's a MSI with zd1211 chipset |
| 20:48.28 | pbn | but hm |
| 20:48.28 | pbn | I doubt this will work, you know |
| 20:48.28 | cchan | why wouldn't it? |
| 20:48.29 | pbn | well, most USB wifi adapters manufacturers don't document their stuff |
| 20:48.29 | pbn | so it's difficult to write drivers for them |
| 20:48.29 | cchan | doesn't Ralink release Linux drivers? |
| 20:48.30 | pbn | perhaps |
| 20:48.33 | pbn | did you try googleing for that ? |
| 20:48.43 | shay | there are |
| 20:48.46 | shay | even as part of debian |
| 20:48.56 | shay | module assistant can help you with that |
| 20:49.09 | shay | shay@valen:~> apt-cache search ralink |
| 20:49.09 | shay | rt2400-source - RT2400 wireless network drivers source |
| 20:49.10 | shay | rt2500-source - RT2500 wireless network drivers source |
| 20:49.10 | shay | rt2570-source - RT2570 wireless network drivers source |
| 20:49.10 | shay | rt2x00-source - RT2x00 wireless network drivers source |
| 20:49.29 | shay | you just need to know which chipset does yout card uses |
| 20:49.39 | pbn | shay: yes but, this fellow wants to netinstall with that network card |
| 20:49.47 | pbn | network adapter, I mean |
| 20:49.50 | shay | hmm |
| 20:49.55 | shay | custom d-i :/ |
| 20:49.58 | pbn | so it needs to be in the modules |
| 20:50.05 | shay | right |
| 20:50.16 | pbn | I doubt this will work |
| 20:50.23 | cchan | mine's a rt2500 |
| 20:50.40 | pbn | cchan: why do you want to netinstall from wifi ? dead dvd/cd drive perhaps ? |
| 20:50.51 | cchan | pbn: dead NIC actually |
| 20:50.53 | shay | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Modify/CustomKernel |
| 20:51.06 | pbn | cchan: ouch, that's bad |
| 20:51.18 | shay | cchan, another options could be, using knoppix (or another live CD) and installing with debootstrap |
| 20:51.24 | pbn | cchan: and that kind of iMac is a pain to disassemble and fix |
| 20:51.25 | shay | (that's what I would do) |
| 20:51.50 | pbn | cchan: well yeah, netinstall from the usb wifi adapter is prolly not supported |
| 20:51.59 | cchan | shay: I thought knoppix is x86 only? |
| 20:52.12 | pbn | cchan: or prolly supported only if you customize debian-installer, which is not really difficult, just long |
| 20:52.30 | cchan | can I install from the normal cd and then aptitude for some packages through wlan? |
| 20:52.31 | shay | cchan, ah, well, Ubuntu's live CD |
| 20:52.36 | pbn | cchan: I would try installing from CD/DVD if I were you... If the CD/DVD player still works on that machine of course |
| 20:52.43 | cchan | pbn: yup., it does |
| 20:53.00 | pbn | cchan: then well, burn the first CD or DVD of Debian |
| 20:53.03 | pbn | cchan: boot of it |
| 20:53.09 | shay | cchan, http://enterprise.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/08/17/1947210&from=rss |
| 20:53.17 | pbn | cchan: after installation, apt-get install the approprite drivers |
| 20:53.22 | pbn | cchan: that should prolly work |
| 20:53.47 | shay | cchan, can't you do at least the basic install from ethernet? |
| 20:54.01 | cchan | shay: nope, no ethernet at al |
| 20:54.06 | cchan | s/al/all/ |
| 20:54.15 | shay | chrisa, or get a friend's laptop to get the wireless and the do a masquerade to the ethernet port? |
| 20:54.27 | shay | s/chrisa/cchan |
| 20:55.59 | pbn | shay: it appears his iMac's Ethernet is RIP :/ |
| 20:56.17 | cchan | actually, I have a laptop, but i only have one USB wifi adapter between the iMac and the iBook |
| 20:57.28 | shay | oh, get a USB ethernet |
| 20:57.37 | shay | I have a couple of those here |
| 20:57.43 | shay | wanna come to Israel and borrow them? :) |
| 20:58.47 | cchan | what about the Xfce cd? I notice that's a torrent, but will Xfce be light enough? |
| 20:58.56 | shay | I think that pbn solution, about getting the first disc/dvd is the best for you.. |
| 20:59.25 | cchan | that would have ralink drivers? |
| 20:59.58 | shay | I think :/ |
| 21:00.11 | shay | well, the really best solution is to make your own d-i disc |
| 21:00.21 | shay | but that's isn't that easy, but it's very well documented |
| 21:01.42 | shay | OR |
| 21:01.56 | shay | you can wait to see what are the results of Google's summer of code project :) |
| 21:02.31 | shay | good luck |
| 21:02.47 | shay | I used to play with that some years ago, if you have any question I can try to answer |
| 21:04.02 | cchan | can I make a custom CD from a Slack based distro (zenwalk), or do I have to have a Debian system? |
| 21:05.13 | shay | you can also ask in #debian-live and #debian-boot |
| 21:05.28 | shay | I'd make a debian based if I was you |
| 21:05.33 | shay | the documentation is based on debian |
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