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| 03:48.14 | Artumi | does the channel topic note about OldWorld Powermacs not booting debian cds include the nubus powerbook1400c ? |
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| 07:11.01 | pbn | , |
| 07:12.51 | pbn | hm |
| 07:13.47 | pbn | what would be the correct wording... "the capitalization of NextStep varies" ? |
| 07:13.58 | pbn | "NextStep is not capitalized the same way" |
| 07:14.09 | pbn | "NextStep is not written the same way" ? |
| 07:15.47 | Bor_Ed | I'd pick later as safe bet to avoid typos |
| 07:24.38 | pbn | hello Bor_Ed |
| 07:25.03 | pbn | ok, so "NextStep is not written the same way" ? |
| 07:25.20 | pbn | then "How do you write NextStep ?" |
| 07:25.27 | pbn | or "spell" instead of "write" ? |
| 07:25.37 | pbn | or "capitalize" instead of "write" ? |
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| 07:27.52 | Artumi | excuse me, does debian run on nubus powerbooks, ? |
| 07:28.25 | Bor_Ed | nubus debian will, normal won't |
| 07:28.41 | Artumi | does nubus debian have 2.6 kernel ? |
| 07:28.55 | Bor_Ed | I pretty much doubt |
| 07:29.04 | Bor_Ed | http://nubus-pmac.sourceforge.net/ check yourself |
| 07:29.10 | Artumi | that site is dead.. |
| 07:29.18 | Artumi | :( |
| 07:29.28 | Bor_Ed | well, last update an year back but site is up at least |
| 07:29.56 | Bor_Ed | the 2.4 will run at least on your pb1400 |
| 07:30.07 | Artumi | thatd be great if it would. |
| 07:32.55 | Artumi | well i guess i can use this mklinux installer iso from sourceforge to install debian onto my pb1400 .. |
| 07:33.04 | Artumi | but how do i keep apt-get update from overwriting the kernel ? |
| 07:33.27 | Bor_Ed | kernel will be on macos partition so it won't be written over with upgrades |
| 07:33.32 | Artumi | oh i see |
| 07:33.53 | Artumi | so its just like if i was doing a tftp boot off of an older apple. |
| 07:34.23 | Bor_Ed | or bootx on oldworld |
| 07:34.26 | Artumi | i put the kernel and system folder in a macos readable partition that bios or firmware then boots as if it was macos, and then that loads my kernel ? |
| 07:34.48 | Artumi | that kind of thing, ? |
| 07:35.29 | Artumi | "okay".. so all i really need is a kernel recognizable by the bootloader, and that will support my hardware , linux binaries, and any sorts of module loading and filesystems i use? |
| 07:36.23 | Artumi | that makes this a little bit less scarey.. thank you Bor_Ed.. i'm gonna check with linux from scratch and the rock linux channels and see if they know if its beyond doing to build a 2.6 with support. |
| 07:36.29 | Bor_Ed | pretty much just the bootloader, kernel and initrd |
| 07:36.35 | Artumi | ok. |
| 07:36.41 | Artumi | ive got the bootloader. |
| 07:36.51 | Bor_Ed | so then it's just couple of missing thingies left |
| 07:36.54 | Artumi | i can see how different of an initrd it might be, from a normal one. |
| 07:37.15 | Artumi | and the kernel other than the bus support, and hardware options should be similliar to a normal kernel , right? |
| 07:37.38 | Bor_Ed | I haven't used nubus but I'd guess it should be pretty much like any other ppc kernel |
| 07:37.43 | Artumi | ok. |
| 07:37.52 | Artumi | well i've got a copy of the mach kernel from that sourceforge project |
| 07:38.11 | Artumi | so between that and the sources.. maybe this isnt so impossible |
| 07:38.32 | Bor_Ed | shouldn't be impossible |
| 07:39.17 | Artumi | ok.. well i'm gonna go check with lsf and rocklinux to see if i can cross compile a kernel for that powerbook. |
| 07:39.22 | Artumi | thanks a bunch bor_ed |
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| 18:33.39 | simonrvn | oh, i don't need ops for /topic... |
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| 18:35.00 | *** topic/#debianppc by simonrvn -> try the #debianppc channel at irc.oftc.net if you don't get a reply here || Debian on PowerPC: r0x0rs my s0x0rs |
| 18:35.25 | simonrvn | Bor_Ed: see new topic ;) |
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| 19:39.11 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn: wee |
| 19:39.22 | Bor_Ed | l337sp33k :D |
| 19:39.56 | Bor_Ed | btw, where have you been hiding last months? |
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| 23:26.10 | simonrvn | Bor_Ed: doing stuff, online and offline, summer coming up, gonna be real busy (pow-wow season) |
| 23:26.41 | simonrvn | @topic shuffle |
| 23:26.42 | *** topic/#debianppc by ravenbird -> Daylight Savings: /msg dpkg dst change || try the #debianppc channel at irc.oftc.net if you don't get a reply here |
| 23:26.58 | simonrvn | @topic delete 1 |
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| 23:27.11 | simonrvn | @topic add Debian on PowerPC: r0x0rs my s0x0rs |
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