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| 01:19.57 | sanjay | is the AirPort Extreme in the kernel yet? |
| 01:22.26 | sanjay | I just got a Mini with a 1.42Ghz G4 in it anlt in WiFid want to be able to use the bui |
| 01:22.46 | sanjay | that is why I got the mini. . . |
| 01:22.56 | sanjay | damn trackpad |
| 01:24.14 | sanjay | I'm in the middle of recooking my kernel, so I can't look in the .config at this time |
| 01:39.12 | sanjay | Hmmm, BCM43xx does not seem to come up for me. . . |
| 01:47.51 | sanjay | with the 2.6.22 sources. . . |
| 02:21.39 | simonrvn | where did you look? i see it here: /usr/src/linux-2.6.18/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/* |
| 02:41.24 | sanjay | I could not find it in .config. |
| 02:42.10 | sanjay | I played with menuconfig and found it when I added the stack under networking options |
| 02:42.56 | sanjay | Just gettng the mini next week, and will be very glad to upgrade fromthis clamshell iBook |
| 02:43.36 | sanjay | going from a G3 @ 0.3ghz to a G4 @ 1.42Ghz will be nice |
| 02:44.18 | sanjay | I was able to find the sources but not how to trigger them within the config. |
| 02:44.46 | sanjay | isw there a Debian specific HOWTO for this somewhere? |
| 02:46.26 | pahartik | sanjay: HOWTO for Broadcom 802.11g network adapter? |
| 02:46.41 | sanjay | yes |
| 02:46.51 | sanjay | bcm43xx |
| 02:47.13 | sanjay | and does anyone know the status of this driver yet? |
| 02:47.53 | sanjay | I saw a mention of transmission power problems, as well as conflicts with bluetooth |
| 02:48.16 | sanjay | does anyone know if that has been addressed yet? |
| 02:54.33 | pahartik | sanjay: "config BCM43XX" "depends on PCI && IEEE80211 && IEEE80211_SOFTMAC && WLAN_80211 && EXPERIMENTAL", according to "/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/Kconfig" |
| 02:55.51 | sanjay | yeah, I just found that |
| 02:56.04 | pahartik | sanjay: I suppose it should work, but I have never used that hardware |
| 02:56.43 | sanjay | pahartik: do you know anything about the transmission power problems ot the conflick with bleutooth? |
| 02:56.52 | sanjay | conflicts |
| 02:59.20 | pahartik | sanjay: I use built-in Bluetooth 1.2 class 2 all the time, but I do not have built-in 802.11g (on iBook G4)... So I guess I should say that I do not know about such problem |
| 03:00.10 | sanjay | Ahhhh |
| 03:12.29 | sanjay | well, everything else seems fairly straightforward |
| 03:13.47 | sanjay | ATI Radeon video, Combo Drive, but I have a DVD burner in an external enclosure, sound should not be hard to handle |
| 03:14.24 | sanjay | I'll be sticking in a 100G drive, and the monitor is DVI |
| 03:15.34 | sanjay | Not too shabby of a system, considering it will be permanently mounted in my 10m caravan |
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| 03:16.07 | sanjay | (30 foot motorhome for the americans among us) |
| 03:18.06 | pahartik | sanjay: That sounds good |
| 03:19.06 | sanjay | Yeah. A one step upgrade from a G3 @ 300Mhz to a G4 @ 1.42Ghz |
| 03:19.42 | pahartik | sanjay: Do you also have DVB-T tuner for it? |
| 03:19.44 | sanjay | Gee, you mean my kernels will compile within an hour now? |
| 03:20.03 | sanjay | dvb-t tuner? |
| 03:20.48 | pahartik | sanjay: For receiving television broadcast... |
| 03:21.09 | sanjay | Nah, television is difficult out here. . . |
| 03:21.30 | pahartik | sanjay: Define location |
| 03:22.02 | sanjay | Got Google? |
| 03:22.10 | sanjay | Bethel Island CA |
| 03:23.36 | pahartik | sanjay: It is in US |
| 03:23.42 | sanjay | it may not look that far out, but there is no TV reception out here. yes |
| 03:23.48 | sanjay | in the US |
| 03:24.11 | sanjay | I tend to define my terms for a world audience first. . . |
| 03:24.16 | pahartik | sanjay: And since it is US, you have ATSC instead of DVB |
| 03:24.48 | sanjay | something about not being so self-centered as to believe that no one here would be from outside the US. . . |
| 03:25.11 | sanjay | NTSC |
| 03:29.43 | pahartik | sanjay: But you are not covered by either, ATSC or NTSC? |
| 03:30.16 | sanjay | there is simply no signal. . . |
| 03:30.32 | sanjay | it is called "out of range". . . |
| 03:31.14 | sanjay | all of the "TV" out here is cable, digital cable, or Satellite |
| 03:31.20 | sanjay | sigh |
| 03:31.53 | sanjay | My video signal is mostly "xine". . . <G> |
| 03:35.36 | pahartik | sanjay: I use "gxine" and VLC... "gxine" can access DVB tuners directly... VLC is supposed to that as well but I have never got that part working |
| 03:55.47 | sanjay | well, This will be the first computer I've had in a couple of years that can even keep up with a DVD |
| 03:56.17 | sanjay | and there is not enough on broadcast TV that I find to be worth watching |
| 03:56.59 | sanjay | So I rent DVD's and watch them on the tiny TV I have in here |
| 03:58.09 | sanjay | or I go and buy books |
| 03:58.25 | sanjay | but I have to wait for them to come out in paperback. . . |
| 03:58.46 | sanjay | unless I can find the ones I want in digital format |
| 03:59.42 | sanjay | Primary use of the computer will be comunications, followed by FlightGear though |
| 04:01.19 | sanjay | Hmmm is the bcm43xx-fwcutter package in the stable tree yet/ |
| 04:01.21 | sanjay | ? |
| 04:05.41 | sanjay | Yes I got the undercabinet monitor mount: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:31&Item=120154997353 |
| 04:05.59 | pahartik | sanjay: "http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=bcm43xx&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all" |
| 04:08.49 | sanjay | now I just need to get the keyboard tray and articulate arm |
| 04:09.27 | sanjay | pahartik: is etch==stable? |
| 04:10.01 | pahartik | sanjay: I think so |
| 04:10.16 | sanjay | OK, cool!! |
| 04:11.01 | pahartik | sanjay: Yes, "etch" is "stable" |
| 04:11.05 | sanjay | I'll just burn an install CD, do basic install using my laptopp as a router so I can get the packages over eth0 |
| 04:11.48 | sanjay | then build a kernel, install the broadcom tools, configure the WiFi. . . |
| 04:12.11 | sanjay | tehn I can pull the plug on the laptop and toss it in a corner. . . |
| 04:14.18 | sanjay | I can do the rest from WiFi |
| 04:14.36 | sanjay | once that is going, I'm golden |
| 04:15.04 | sanjay | pahartik: what is your location? |
| 04:16.35 | pahartik | sanjay: At moment I am on train, but my rat cave is in Tampere, Finland, Europe |
| 04:17.19 | sanjay | so my first description was more accurate for you. a 10m caravan |
| 04:17.34 | sanjay | (Caravan==motorhome, iirc) |
| 04:17.55 | sanjay | un the US, also called RV |
| 04:18.35 | pahartik | sanjay: Indeed I am more familiar with European terms... |
| 04:18.56 | sanjay | was caravan correct? |
| 04:19.09 | sanjay | I know the measurement is correct |
| 04:19.25 | sanjay | I got that from annother group |
| 04:19.37 | sanjay | I got caravan, that is |
| 04:20.57 | pahartik | sanjay: "Caravan" is just fine |
| 04:21.42 | sanjay | I saw at least one design (German, I think) that was quite interesting. . . |
| 04:21.50 | sanjay | very clean lines. . . |
| 04:22.02 | sanjay | I most certainly do not have that here. . . |
| 04:23.11 | sanjay | dark colours, busy cabinet doors ("mission" style, and made of plastic!!) |
| 04:23.51 | sanjay | Heh, I'm in the process of debugging the craft, then I will recompile. . . |
| 04:24.33 | sanjay | I'll have lighter colours, smooth cabinet faces (made of actual wood), and I'll have built in a computer station. |
| 04:26.03 | sanjay | the "dresser" in my cabin area is a base cabinet with two upright doors, that open to storage. I'm taking those off, taking the shelves out, and opening it right down to the floor |
| 04:27.02 | sanjay | I'll mount the mini under one side, and the monitor on the mount I gave a link to, above the area beside it. |
| 04:28.03 | sanjay | I'll be using an articulating arm keyboard tray, and cutting a notch out of the top of the base cabinett, that this tray will fold into. |
| 04:28.29 | sanjay | add a small task chair, and I have a workstation |
| 04:29.22 | pahartik | sanjay: I try to imagine your plan |
| 04:32.29 | sanjay | base cabinet is just over 2m long, and about 45cm deep |
| 04:33.19 | sanjay | it is also about 80cm high |
| 04:33.54 | sanjay | cabinets comprise about the last 1.1m |
| 04:34.03 | sanjay | rearmost. |
| 04:34.23 | sanjay | I'll be taking that out, making a footwell |
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| 04:35.10 | sanjay | I want to be able to have a task chair there, so I can sit for a fair period of time |
| 04:35.29 | sanjay | this laptop gets painful after a while |
| 04:35.52 | sanjay | bad on the shoulders and neck |
| 04:37.48 | sanjay | as I have no back support (I'm sitting on the edge of my bed to type this |
| 04:39.13 | sanjay | I'll be mounting the mini on the underside of the top of the base cabinet, with offsets so the optical drive is accessable |
| 04:40.25 | sanjay | A hole drilled into the back of the top will allow for cables for the printer and monitor, as well as (likely) a USB hub, and perhaps a firewire hub |
| 04:41.26 | sanjay | the keyboard and mouse (trackball) will be attached to a USB hub on the underside of the top, behind where the mini is mounted |
| 04:42.07 | sanjay | the printer will be placed on the forward area, away from where I'll be sitting |
| 04:43.34 | sanjay | Is that any easier to follow? |
| 04:47.37 | pahartik | sanjay: Well described, thank you |
| 04:47.58 | sanjay | I am a StarFleet Engineer. |
| 04:48.08 | sanjay | this is my starship. |
| 04:49.08 | sanjay | If you are interested, the forward area of this base cabinet holds thepower distrobution panel, and an engineering access. |
| 04:50.17 | sanjay | I'll be moving that panel to the forward inside wall of the footwell, with a door over it, and the resultant open area will become a pair of drawers. |
| 04:51.15 | sanjay | the lower drawer can be removed to get at the items behind the engineering assess, making that obsolete |
| 04:53.44 | sanjay | the drawers can hold the items that currently occupy two of the three overhead cabinets, freeing them to become storage or even a media shelf |
| 04:56.33 | sanjay | there is 60cm between the base cabinet and the bed, which is too far a stretch to have a standard keyboard tray, or too short if you put a chair there |
| 04:57.28 | sanjay | take ut the cabinets below, and yo can put your legs in, pull the keyboard tray to where you want it, lean back a bit, and the monitor is right there above you |
| 04:58.11 | sanjay | to be honest, the cabinet is a bit too high for the monitor mount. . . |
| 04:58.36 | sanjay | I may have to offset it down just a bit |
| 04:58.53 | sanjay | for a decent line of sight |
| 05:00.23 | sanjay | I'll also be using a joystick for FlightGear ( http://www.flightgear.org ), so I'll need a stable place for that |
| 05:01.45 | sanjay | when you live in 10m x 2.5m x 2.2m of area, everything has to be designed into the whole. . . |
| 05:03.58 | sanjay | if you are interested in pictures, I can /msg you with a link. . . |
| 05:04.44 | sanjay | but this installation has to be mobile. As few cables coming in as possable. |
| 05:05.19 | sanjay | the only one that is coming in now is the Satellite TV that I share with the person in the next space |
| 05:06.21 | sanjay | that and ships systems (electricity in, fresh water in, and sewage out) |
| 05:07.21 | sanjay | all cords can be disconnected in less than 10 mins in an emergency (evacuation) |
| 05:07.38 | sanjay | Living on an island, you have to consider those thing |
| 05:07.40 | sanjay | s |
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| 20:37.15 | Midtronic | I'm feeling pretty dumb here, but I forget if there's a wizard to set up my sources.list or if I always did it by hand... if the latter, where can I find a list of mirrors? |
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